#editorial | Logs for 2020-09-23

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[00:11:24] <Bytram> =g https://spectrum.ieee.org
[00:11:25] <systemd> https://spectrum.ieee.org - Should You Trust Apple's New Blood Oxygen Sensor? - IEEE ...
[00:13:14] <Bytram> https://spectrum.ieee.org
[00:13:14] <systemd> ^ 03Full Page Reload
[00:20:07] <Bytram> https://foreignpolicy.com
[00:20:08] <systemd> ^ 03The Genetic Engineering Genie Is Out of the Bottle
[00:22:14] <Bytram> https://newatlas.com
[00:22:15] <systemd> ^ 03Sea sponge skeletons inspire stronger, lighter load-bearing structures
[00:26:35] <Bytram> =cite
[00:26:35] <systemd> Generate a block of HTML for citing an article. Takes DOIs and URLs. Template:
[00:26:35] <systemd> ${authors}${title}${access}, <cite>${journal}</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/${doi}">${doi}</a>)
[00:26:39] <Bytram> =cite https://www.nature.com
[00:26:41] <systemd> Journal Reference: Matheus C. Fernandes, Joanna Aizenberg, James C. Weaver, et al. Mechanically robust lattices inspired by deep-sea glass sponges, <cite>Nature Materials</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1038/s41563-020-0798-1">10.1038/s41563-020-0798-1</a>)
[00:29:06] <Bytram> =yt http://www.youtube.com
[00:29:07] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Marine sponges inspire the next generation of skyscrapers and bridges (01:31; 706 views; 👍10 👎0)
[00:40:55] <Bytram> =w who watches the watchers
[00:40:56] <systemd> "Who Watches the Watchers" is the fourth episode of the third season of the American science fiction television series Star Trek: The Next Generation, - https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:41:05] <Bytram> =w who watches the watchers -star
[00:41:06] <systemd> ambiguous term used to describe the person who watches birds for any reason at all, and should not be used to refer to the serious birder. — Birding, Volume 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:41:22] <Bytram> =w who watches the watchers -star custodiet
[00:41:23] <systemd> without sousveillance"). The question of "Who watches the watchers" is dealt with more properly under the topic of metaveillance (the veillance of veillance) - https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:41:52] <Bytram> =g who watches the watchers -star custodiet
[00:41:53] <systemd> https://www.ftc.gov - Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? (Who Watches the Watchers ...
[00:42:16] <Bytram> =w Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes
[00:42:17] <systemd> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is a Latin phrase found in the work of the Roman poet Juvenal from his Satires (Satire VI, lines 347–348). It is literally - https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:49:32] <Bytram> https://spaceflightnow.com
[00:49:34] <systemd> ^ 03NASA lays out $28 billion plan to return astronauts to the moon in 2024 – Spaceflight Now
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[00:53:48] <Bytram> =g jules verne to the moon and back
[00:53:49] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - From the Earth to the Moon - Wikipedia
[01:25:12] <AzumaHazuki> ...wow.
[01:26:52] <Bytram> I fucking sick and tired of "adults" behaving worse than 5-year-old kids. Take It Somewhere Else.
[01:28:50] <AzumaHazuki> please get some sleep. i'm worried for you now.
[01:28:58] <Bytram> This is the #editorial channel.
[01:29:41] <Bytram> sleep is okay. behaviour of the community is not. Is *that* clear?
[01:30:30] <Bytram> Yeah, it takes a *LOT* to get me riled up; have you EVER seen me this agitated here, ever?
[01:30:35] <AzumaHazuki> so long as you apply this evenhandedly. for example, to someone who threatened to shoot you. even in jest.
[01:30:58] <Bytram> I saw you claim that he did.
[01:31:13] <Bytram> I am talking about this channel right now.
[01:31:40] <AzumaHazuki> s
[01:31:40] <AzumaHazuki> <Bytram> please don't shoot the messenger
[01:31:40] <AzumaHazuki> <nutherguy> Oh, but I was gonna shoot you anyway, it's just coincidental that you're the messenger, LOL
[01:32:09] <AzumaHazuki> even in jest that's pretty fucked up. and it's even more fucked up to kick someone for agreeing with you but not for saying they'll shoot you. wtaf.
[01:32:13] <Bytram> Oh, that? that was a joke.
[01:32:37] <AzumaHazuki> uh-huh. you know very well that what a certain kind of person jokes about is next-door neighbors with their sincerely-held desires
[01:33:33] <Bytram> context. his hext line was: * nutherguy loads up silly cork gun\
[01:34:19] <Bytram> gallows humor. whatevs you wanna call it. and that was not in this channel.
[01:34:38] <Bytram> back in 10 minutes or so.
[01:34:41] <Bytram> afk
[01:34:43] <AzumaHazuki> whatever, Bytram. get some sleep, you're even more worn out and overstretched than i am and it's affecting your judgment
[01:54:17] <Bytram> whereto? http://feeds.propublica.org
[01:54:20] <systemd> ^ 03America Is About to Lose Its 200,000th Life to Coronavirus. How Many More Have to Die? ( https://www.propublica.org )
[01:58:13] <Bytram> =g one person's death is a tragedy; 1,000 is a statistic
[01:58:14] <systemd> https://quoteinvestigator.com - A Single Death Is a Tragedy; A Million Deaths Is a Statistic – Quote ...
[02:05:28] <Bytram> chromas: ping
[02:07:09] <Bytram> https://florey.edu.au
[02:07:10] <systemd> ^ 03...
[02:07:14] <Bytram> lol
[02:11:48] <chromas> oh no he's gonna make me put some effort in :)
[02:12:08] <chromas> oh shit you just did a buttload
[02:12:32] <Bytram> how would you like to push out an "easy" sub?
[02:12:39] <Bytram> it's time sensitive
[02:13:04] <chromas> You don't want to put it in the roundup? :D
[02:13:10] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[02:13:11] <systemd> ^ 03US has Topped 200,000 COVID-19 Deaths: SoylentNews Submission
[02:13:33] <chromas> oh that's new? I thought we did that a few weeks ago
[02:13:52] <Bytram> don't have time/energy to do a roundup atm.
[02:14:04] <Bytram> no, this is actual case count
[02:14:47] <chromas> What slot should I use? 4:20?
[02:14:52] <Bytram> chromas: use this: 2020-09-23 06:28:00
[02:15:09] <chromas> okay
[02:15:29] <Bytram> that is, if you agree with pushing out the story.
[02:16:38] <chromas> It's big news I guess, even if it's not stemmy.
[02:16:38] <Fnord666> evening
[02:16:46] * chromas sets the slot
[02:16:49] <chromas> g'day Fnord666
[02:17:02] <Fnord666> good eeeevening
[02:17:02] <Bytram> =goop fn
[02:17:03] * systemd derisively nudges a sack of TempleOS toward fn
[02:17:07] <Bytram> =goop Fnord666
[02:17:07] * systemd cantankerously ejaculates a pit of ding dongs at Fnord666
[02:17:16] <Fnord666> =goop Bytram
[02:17:16] * systemd dexterously extracts a container of corn muffins from Bytram
[02:17:25] <Bytram> food fight!
[02:17:38] <Fnord666> nom nom
[02:18:05] <Bytram> Animal House was juvenile, but also a classic
[02:18:17] * chromas refrains from inserting lame puns in dept
[02:18:32] <Bytram> we have both kinds of music here, country and western
[02:18:57] <Bytram> chromas: whacha have in mined?
[02:19:10] <chromas> Is there urban & eastern music?
[02:19:21] <chromas> Dunno, something about kilodeaths
[02:19:28] <Bytram> oh, wait, that quote was from "The Blues Brothers"
[02:19:36] <Bytram> yeah, no.
[02:19:41] <chromas> Haven't seen that in a hundreds yearrs
[02:19:45] <Bytram> =g megadeath
[02:19:46] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Megadeath - Wikipedia
[02:20:29] <Fnord666> What am I now? I'm a zit! Get it?
[02:20:34] <Fnord666> nograb
[02:20:49] <chromas> We could argue if 200k is 200,000 or 204,800
[02:20:51] <Bytram> Fnord666++ first thing that came to mind for me, as well
[02:20:51] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 169
[02:21:01] <Bytram> wait about a day
[02:21:13] <chromas> Anyhow, posted
[02:21:22] <Bytram> I so wish it were not true
[02:21:31] <Bytram> chromas++ thanky
[02:21:31] <Bender> karma - chromas: 175
[02:21:52] <Bytram> oh, joy. Someone just started a load of laundry.
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[02:23:49] <chromas> Is it clothes or an $800 keyboard from Amazon?
[02:24:15] <Fnord666> lol.
[02:24:27] <Fnord666> 2nding coronavirus story.
[02:24:40] <Fnord666> Maybe a daskeyboard with blank keycaps
[02:24:58] <Bytram> chromas: I must be tired -- I don't get it
[02:26:35] <Fnord666> Loud, noisy expensive mechanical keyboards that sounds like a handful of legos in a dryer
[02:27:08] <Fnord666> And a quick way to get the evil eye in an open office space
[02:27:21] <Bytram> Das stimt!
[02:27:40] <Bytram> Fnord666++ thanks bunches for the story subs!
[02:27:40] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 170
[02:28:11] <Fnord666> Thank you for pushing out what looks like a months worth of stories!
[02:28:15] <Fnord666> Bytram++
[02:28:15] <Bender> karma - bytram: 111
[02:28:48] <Fnord666> There's at least a Day o' Bytram's worth there.
[02:28:48] * Bytram spent way too much time using a 3270 and later official IBM PC keyboards (Model M-something)
[02:29:08] <Fnord666> The model M keyboards arre worth some money these days
[02:29:17] <Bytram> those were still much better than what I learned on: Teletype
[02:29:33] <Bytram> Yeah, but they do not have a windows key!
[02:29:37] <Bytram> ;)
[02:29:56] <Fnord666> You say that like it's a bad thing :)
[02:30:29] <Bytram> yes, I use it far more often than I had ever imagined I would.
[02:30:34] <Fnord666> Yeah my first terminal that I got to use was a DecWriter
[02:30:44] <chromas> I saw an expensive MS ergo keyboard and a reviewer suggested the outrageous price meant it was being used to launder money instead of just being a supply/demand issue
[02:30:48] <Bytram> Ohhh, those came later
[02:31:14] <Bytram> =w VT-05 terminal
[02:31:15] <systemd> "VT-05" can also refer to Vermont's 5th congressional district. The VT05 was the first free-standing CRT computer terminal from Digital Equipment Corporation - https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:31:25] <Bytram> =w VT-52 terminal
[02:31:26] <systemd> The VT50 was a CRT-based computer terminal introduced by Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) in July 1974. It provided a display with 12 rows and 80 columns - https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:31:34] <Bytram> =w VT-100 terminal
[02:31:35] <systemd> The VT100 is a video terminal, introduced in August 1978 by Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC). It was one of the first terminals to support ANSI escape - https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:31:43] <Bytram> =w DecWriter terminal
[02:31:44] <systemd> The DECwriter series was a family of computer terminals from Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC). They were typically used in a fashion similar to a teletype - https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:32:06] * Bytram used all of those at various times ^^^
[02:32:20] <Fnord666> =w vt3270
[02:32:21] <systemd> UNIX systems via TCP/IP. TN3270 Plus includes terminal emulation for 3270, 5250, VT100, VT220 and ANSI terminals. TN3270 Plus supports Windows 8, Server - https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:32:55] <Fnord666> I still use TN3270 emulation to connect to our mainframe at work
[02:34:14] <chromas> Model Ms are just cheap replacements for Model Fs
[02:34:38] <Fnord666> Don't forget Model As and Model Ts
[02:35:24] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[02:35:27] <systemd> ^ 03IBM 5291 Model F "Bigfoot" keyboard review (capacitive buckling springs)
[02:35:48] <Fnord666> I've seconded the stories that I can. The rest are from my submissions I believe.
[02:37:19] <Fnord666> I'm actually sitting here looking at a PCB for a small macro keyboard to add to my workstation. It uses an arduino pro mini and pretends it's a keyboard but you can program it to send whatever keystrokes you want for each key.
[02:37:59] <Bytram> Fun Fact: A genuine VT-100 could be put in: Local Mode, Auto Repeat, Key Click ON, with an ANSI-type sequence with some other text -- caused the autorepeat to refresh at the rate the LEDs were updated (i.e. MUCH faster than normal). Depending on which key was pressed, it would take more or less time to update for each auto-repeat and thus cause a different tone to be produced.
[02:38:01] <chromas> I just came across Does it run QMK?
[02:38:12] <chromas> heh, I need an editor
[02:38:15] <Fnord666> I think it's going to b a fun project
[02:38:56] <Bytram> Fnord666++ Muchos gracias
[02:38:56] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 171
[02:39:02] <Bytram> Fnord666++ danke
[02:39:02] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 172
[02:39:07] <Bytram> Fnord666++ specebo
[02:39:07] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 173
[02:39:27] <Bytram> Fnord666++ mare sea
[02:39:28] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 174
[02:39:48] * Bytram goes to take a look
[02:39:49] <Fnord666> chromas it does not run QMK. the software was developed by the guy who designed the PCB.
[02:40:19] <Fnord666> I may have to look into that however and see how it handles the key mapping
[02:41:13] <Bytram> in case you were wondering, we had a nice set of submissions from an AC, as well as Fnord666, so I took the opportunity to push out as many as I could and, potentially at least, get us a day off.
[02:41:18] <Bytram> teamwork++
[02:41:18] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 250
[02:41:50] <Fnord666> Basically I think he created it as a cheap elgato stream deck
[02:42:09] <Fnord666> It is much appreciated Bytram
[02:42:15] <Fnord666> bytram++
[02:42:15] <Bender> karma - bytram: 112
[02:42:52] <Bytram> looks like I've got some work to do to catch up with you guys! LOL!
[02:43:15] <Fnord666> Minus the oled key caps that the stream deck uses.
[02:43:35] <chromas> X-Keys are also expensive
[02:44:21] <Fnord666> Bytram - No I'm just crap at recognizing other people's contributions properly
[02:44:44] <Bytram> I'd really love to stay and chat, but I should prepare some dinner, and I am expecting a phone call in less than 8 hours.
[02:44:46] <Fnord666> chromas I am using cherry MX switches so it's not the cheapest build it could be
[02:45:04] <Bytram> cherry++ awesome keyboards!
[02:45:04] <Bender> karma - cherry: 1
[02:45:05] <Fnord666> Printing my own housing though so there's that
[02:45:18] <Bytram> kewel
[02:45:20] <Bytram> brb
[02:46:14] <Fnord666> Ouch yeah those X-Keys boards are seriously pricey!
[02:51:08] <chromas> Apparently Cherry MX are the Guinness of mechanical keyboard switches :)
[02:55:24] <Fnord666> They do work nicely and there are a bunch of different actuations/sound/feel available
[02:55:48] <chromas> https://medium.com
[02:55:49] <systemd> ^ 03Complete idiot guide for building a dactyl manuform keyboard.
[03:03:34] <Bytram> I am actually interested in getting a 105-ket keyboard with genuine mechanical switches with as light a feel as possible (i.e. minimum effort, but with tactile feedback; silent would be a plus)
[03:03:43] <Bytram> brb
[03:05:46] <Bytram> =yt bkMwvmJLnc0
[03:05:47] <systemd> Search failed: Key not found: likeCount (std/json.d: 627)
[03:05:59] <Bytram> Hmmm
[03:06:11] <Bytram> =f youtube bkMwvmJLnc0
[03:06:19] <Bytram> =g youtube bkMwvmJLnc0
[03:06:19] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Exponential Threat - YouTube
[03:06:52] <Bytram> Fnord666: chromas: Would it be too much to include a link to that video in the 200K story?
[03:07:58] <chromas> Aw, I was hoping for a 3Blue1Brown vidya
[03:08:24] <chromas> Looks like propaganda
[03:08:58] <Fnord666> Agreed. If you would like to present that video in the comment section ....
[03:09:21] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:10:12] <Fnord666> I was even hesitant to include the Trump statement in the submission
[03:11:02] <Fnord666> It just doesn't fit with the rest of the story and the facts
[03:11:28] <Fnord666> just a quick little political stab if you will by ARS
[03:12:38] <Bytram> I see your point, and yet me IS the commander in chief... when DOES he take/get responsibility for his decisions/choices
[03:12:56] <Bytram> I see your point, and yet he IS the commander in chief... when DOES he take/get responsibility for his decisions/choices
[03:14:54] <Fnord666> In November?
[03:15:05] <chromas> of 2024
[03:15:27] <chromas> from the Jesus-wept dept.
[03:15:45] <Fnord666> sad but true
[03:16:52] <Fnord666> back in a minute
[03:27:44] <chromas> This is the best thing I've ever seen https://www.youtube.com
[03:27:47] <systemd> ^ 03Weytec MK06 keyboard review REDUX (Cherry MX Clear)
[03:28:02] <chromas> A keyboard with three displays, menus and even a mouse cursor
[03:31:51] <Fnord666> ok that's pretty wild
[03:32:18] <Fnord666> I always liked a keyboard with 24 function keys
[03:34:03] <Fnord666> When he says that he "waited a while and it magically unfucked itself." I feel like reliability might be an issue
[03:38:53] <Bytram> an occasional drop onto a desk from a foot or two elevation, especially when inverted, seems to help dislodge all the crumbs
[03:40:01] <Bytram> upon reflection, I have elided the trump statement from the 200k story
[03:40:55] <Bytram> =g covid-19 count
[03:40:56] <systemd> https://www.worldometers.info - Coronavirus Update (Live): 31,710,167 Cases and 973,527 Deaths ...
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[07:47:31] <aristarchus> =submit https://www.nbcnews.com
[07:47:33] <systemd> Submitting "Killer obsessed with witchcraft executed by U.S. government"...
[07:47:55] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Killer Obsessed With Witchcraft Executed by U.S. Government" (24 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:48:25] <aristarchus> =submit https://madison.com
[07:48:27] <systemd> Submitting "John Nichols: GOP positions on the wrong side of history"...( 1 modified urls; https://madison.com )
[07:48:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03John Nichols: GOP Positions on the Wrong Side of History" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:13:14] <aristarchus> =submit https://www.yahoo.com
[08:13:16] <systemd> Submitting "‘Antebellum’: Jena Malone Used the Alt-Right and ‘Gone with the Wind’ to Inspire Her White Supremacist Villain"...
[08:13:38] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08‘Antebellum’: Jena Malone Used the Alt-Right and ‘Gone With the Wind’ to Inspire Her White S" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:37:50] <aristarchus> =submit https://thehill.com
[08:37:53] <systemd> Submitting "Bloomberg pays fines for 32,000 felons in Florida so they can vote"...
[08:38:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Bloomberg Pays Fines for 32,000 Felons in Florida So They Can Vote" (4 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:04:54] <aristarchus> =submit https://www.cnn.com
[10:04:58] <systemd> Submitting "NASA outlines plan to land first woman on Moon by 2024"...
[10:05:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NASA Outlines Plan to Land First Woman on Moon by 2024" (6 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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