#editorial | Logs for 2020-04-28
« return
[00:11:17] <Bytram> Fnord666: !!
[00:11:35] * Bytram is 2nding stories
[00:11:36] -!- AzumaHazuki [AzumaHazuki!~hazuki@the.end.of.time] has joined #editorial
[00:12:00] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: \o/ \o/ \o/
[00:12:14] <AzumaHazuki> whoa, how much coffee have you had? :)
[00:12:25] <Bytram> Just enough
[00:13:53] <Bytram> Most likely, it's just that the weather is *starting* to improve. The rain has let up, so now that's it's drying out and the barometer is rising, it also is bringing us colder weather and gusty winds.
[00:14:39] <Bytram> Dropping barometric saps my strength.
[00:14:51] <AzumaHazuki> it was nice all day today. some 50-55*F and rather low humidity
[00:15:01] <AzumaHazuki> i do a lot better when the sun is out
[00:15:01] <Bytram> happy for you!
[00:15:31] <Bytram> Yep, it might be cold and windy, but can always put on more clothes. When it'
[00:15:58] <Bytram> When it's raining, there's nothing a change of clothes can do to improve the brightness.
[00:16:34] <AzumaHazuki> ick, yeah
[00:18:20] <Bytram> Hard to believe it, now, but in a couple three months or so, I'll be wishing it were colder... almost completely forgetting about how much I had wished it were warmer!
[00:20:41] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.wsj.com
[00:20:44] <exec> └─ 13Why a Data-Security Expert Fears U.S. Voting Will Be Hacked - WSJ
[00:20:44] <exec> 511 stories loaded
[00:20:45] <exec> story not found
[00:20:52] <Bytram> =sub https://www.wsj.com
[00:20:54] <systemd> Submitting "Why a Data-Security Expert Fears U.S. Voting Will Be Hacked"...
[00:20:55] <exec> └─ 13Why a Data-Security Expert Fears U.S. Voting Will Be Hacked - WSJ
[00:21:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Why a Data-Security Expert Fears U.S. Voting Will be Hacked" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:51:41] -!- AzumaHazuki has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[12:26:10] <Bytram> w2? https://go.theregister.co.uk
[12:26:11] <systemd> ^ 03Nine million logs of Brits' road journeys spill onto the internet from password-less number-plate camera dashboard ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[12:26:12] <exec> └─ 13Nine million logs of Brits' road journeys spill onto the internet from password-less number-plate camera dashboard • The Register
[12:42:08] -!- AzumaHazuki [AzumaHazuki!~hazuki@the.end.of.time] has joined #editorial
[12:49:43] <Bytram> =sub https://www.aljazeera.com
[12:49:44] <exec> └─ 13Doctor's Note: Why do we get fevers? | Coronavirus pandemic | Al Jazeera
[12:49:45] <systemd> Submitting "Doctor's Note: Why do we get fevers?"...
[12:50:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Doctor's Note: Why Do We Get Fevers?" (32 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:07:20] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[13:07:22] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[13:07:23] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[13:16:00] <Bytram> =g UPC "200092012657"
[13:16:01] <systemd> [0 results]
[13:16:07] <Bytram> =g UPC "00200092012657"
[13:16:08] <systemd> [0 results]
[13:16:27] <Bytram> =g UPC "793447348728"
[13:16:28] <systemd> [0 results]
[13:16:39] <Bytram> =g UPC "793447361024"
[13:16:40] <systemd> [0 results]
[13:16:45] <Bytram> =g UPC 793447361024
[13:16:46] <systemd> [0 results]
[13:17:09] <Bytram> https://www.bullmoose.com
[13:17:10] <systemd> ^ 03- Amy Allen - Honey
[13:17:11] <exec> └─ 13Amy Allen Honey Local. Bull Moose
[13:17:20] <Bytram> https://www.bullmoose.com
[13:17:22] <systemd> ^ 03- Amy Allen - Neptune
[13:17:22] <exec> └─ 13Amy Allen Neptune Local. Bull Moose
[13:17:33] <Bytram> https://www.bullmoose.com
[13:17:34] <systemd> ^ 03- Amy Allen - Other Side Of Somewhere
[13:17:35] <exec> └─ 13Amy Allen Other Side Of Somewhere Local. Bull Moose
[13:39:14] -!- AzumaHazuki has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[13:41:28] <Bytram> hmm
[13:41:33] <Bytram> what's a "kip"?
[13:41:35] <Bytram> https://go.theregister.co.uk
[13:41:36] <systemd> ^ 03Wakey-wakey! A quarter of IT pros only get 3-4 hours' kip – and you won't believe what's being touted as the 'solution' ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[13:41:37] <exec> └─ 13Wakey-wakey! A quarter of IT pros only get 3-4 hours' kip – and you won't believe what's being touted as the 'solution' • The Register
[13:59:08] <Bytram> =g "Get Me Outta Here!"
[13:59:09] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Happy Gilmore get me outta here - YouTube
[13:59:16] <Bytram> =g "Get Me Outta Here!" Amy Allen
[13:59:17] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - AMY AND THE ENGINE | "Get Me Outta Here" - YouTube
[13:59:33] <Bytram> =g "Get Me Outta Here!" Amy Allen -youtube
[13:59:34] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org(songwriter) - Amy Allen (songwriter) - Wikipedia
[13:59:43] <Bytram> =g "Get Me Outta Here!" Amy Allen -youtube -wikipedia
[13:59:43] <systemd> https://twitter.com - Amy Allen (@AmyAllenJamz) | Twitter
[13:59:54] <Bytram> =g "Get Me Outta Here!" Amy Allen -youtube -wikipedia -Twitter
[13:59:55] <systemd> http://www.lemonademagazine.net - Amy Allen: Finding Balance & Forlorn Love - Lemonade ...
[14:17:40] <Bytram> =g "Get Me Outta Here!" "Whatcha Do" Amy Allen -youtube -wikipedia -Twitter
[14:17:41] <systemd> http://www.xiami.com - Amy Allen - 虾米音乐
[14:18:09] <Bytram> =g "Get Me Outta Here!" "Whatcha Do" Amy Allen
[14:18:09] <systemd> https://therevue.ca - Favorite EPs of 2017
[14:18:31] <Bytram> =g "Get Me Outta Here!" "Chasing Jenny" Amy Allen
[14:18:32] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - AMY AND THE ENGINE | "Get Me Outta Here" - YouTube
[14:19:00] <Bytram> =g "Get Me Outta Here!" "Chasing Jenny" Amy Allen -c787Q7jSXw
[14:19:01] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org(songwriter) - Amy Allen (songwriter) - Wikipedia
[14:19:06] <Bytram> =g "Get Me Outta Here!" "Chasing Jenny" Amy Allen -c787Q7jSXw -wikipedia
[14:19:07] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Amy Allen (Amy and the Engine) - Get Me Outta Here - YouTube
[14:19:48] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[14:19:50] <systemd> ^ 03Amy Allen (Amy and the Engine) - Get Me Outta Here
[14:19:50] <exec> └─ 13Amy Allen (Amy and the Engine) - Get Me Outta Here - YouTube
[14:32:18] <janrinok> Bytram, a kip is a short sleep or nap
[14:32:58] <Bytram> Snnnzzzzzzt Huh? Oh, thanks! =)
[14:33:09] <Bytram> ~gday janrinok
[14:33:10] * exec abnormally stuffs a tumbleweed of racial microaggressions into janrinok
[16:25:41] <Bytram> https://www.instagram.com
[16:25:41] <systemd> ^ 03Amy Allen on Instagram: “I wrote this song a year ago in London, when I met someone who made me feel like the skies were opening up again. Playing it now and…”
[16:25:42] <exec> └─ 13Amy Allen on Instagram: “I wrote this song a year ago in London, when I met someone who made me feel like the skies were opening up again. Playing it now and…”
[16:38:19] <Bytram> https://itunes.apple.com
[16:38:20] <systemd> ^ 03Get millions of songs. All ad-free. ( https://music.apple.com )
[16:38:20] <exec> └─ 13Apple Music
[17:15:43] <Bytram> =g http://dx.doi.org
[17:15:44] <systemd> https://orcid.org - Anthony Romilio (0000-0002-1218-3567) - ORCID | Connecting ...
[17:15:46] <exec> └─ 13Additional notes on the Mount Morgan dinosaur tracks from the Lower Jurassic (Sinemurian) Razorback beds, Queensland, Australia.: Historical Biology: Vol 0, No 0
[17:15:53] <Bytram> =g http://dx.doi.org -orcid
[17:15:54] <systemd> [0 results]
[17:15:56] <exec> └─ 13Additional notes on the Mount Morgan dinosaur tracks from the Lower Jurassic (Sinemurian) Razorback beds, Queensland, Australia.: Historical Biology: Vol 0, No 0
[17:16:09] <Bytram> =g "10.1080/08912963.2020.1755853" -orcid
[17:16:09] <systemd> https://phys.org - 'Dino Cave' reveals dinosaur crouch walkers
[17:16:19] <Bytram> =g "10.1080/08912963.2020.1755853" -orcid -phys.org
[17:16:19] <systemd> https://www.uq.edu.au - 'Dino Cave' reveals dinosaur crouch walkers - UQ News - The ...
[17:16:47] <janrinok> Bytram, Dino story already in sub queue
[17:17:30] <janrinok> ah, you are working on it - sorry
[17:18:01] <Bytram> =)
[17:18:16] <Bytram> =g "dino cave" "mount morgan"
[17:18:17] <systemd> https://phys.org - 'Dino Cave' reveals dinosaur crouch walkers
[17:18:21] <janrinok> and it already has the DOI
[17:18:25] <Bytram> =g "dino cave" "mount morgan" -phys.org
[17:18:26] <systemd> https://www.uq.edu.au - 'Dino Cave' reveals dinosaur crouch walkers - UQ News - The ...
[17:18:39] <Bytram> =g "dino cave" "mount morgan" -phys.org -uq.edu.au
[17:18:40] <systemd> https://www.heritagedaily.com - 'Dino Cave' reveals dinosaur crouch walkers - HeritageDaily ...
[17:26:06] <Bytram> https://espace.library.uq.edu.au(Romilio,+Anthony)&searchMode=advanced
[17:26:08] <systemd> ^ 03UQ eSpace
[17:26:11] <exec> └─ 13UQ eSpace
[21:16:13] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.schneier.com
[21:16:15] <exec> 712 stories loaded
[21:16:15] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Fooling NLP Systems Through Word Swapping"
[21:16:16] <exec> └─ 13Fooling NLP Systems Through Word Swapping - Schneier on Security
[21:16:48] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission - maybe try again in a minute
[21:17:06] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.schneier.com
[21:17:09] <exec> 712 stories loaded
[21:17:09] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Fooling NLP Systems Through Word Swapping"
[21:17:10] <exec> └─ 13Fooling NLP Systems Through Word Swapping - Schneier on Security
[21:17:12] <Bytram> w2? https://www.symmetrymagazine.org
[21:17:13] <systemd> ^ 03The supernova that keeps on giving ( https://www.symmetrymagazine.org )
[21:17:40] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[21:17:45] <exec> 711 stories loaded
[22:06:10] <Bytram> https://go.theregister.co.uk
[22:06:11] <systemd> ^ 03Outages batter UK's Virgin Media into wee hours as broadband failures spike 77% globally ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[22:06:12] <exec> └─ 13Outages batter UK's Virgin Media into wee hours as broadband failures spike 77% globally • The Register
[23:08:22] <Bytram> .
[23:08:43] * Bytram comes up from a rabbit hole
[23:09:02] * Bytram thinks he found a bug in Windows' cmd.exe window
[23:09:23] <Bytram> echo SET bar=plugh>bar.bat
[23:09:29] <Bytram> call bar.bat
[23:09:42] <Bytram> echo %bar%
[23:09:50] <Bytram> displays that bar is set to plugh
[23:09:52] <Bytram> set bar=
[23:09:59] <Bytram> echo %bar%
[23:10:06] <Bytram> shows that bar now has no value
[23:10:13] <Bytram> echo testing | bar
[23:10:23] <Bytram> echo %bar%
[23:10:49] <Bytram> Environment variable bar not defined
[23:10:56] <Bytram> ??????????????
[23:11:50] <Bytram> echo set bar>> bar.bat
[23:12:00] <Bytram> echo testing again | bar.bat
[23:12:37] <Bytram> shows that *within* bar.bat, the environment variable bar *IS* set to plugh
[23:12:51] <Bytram> but, when execution returns from bar.bat
[23:13:08] <Bytram> the environment variable bar is still not set
[23:13:12] <Bytram> =(
[23:13:43] <Bytram> can anyone else confirm this?
[23:23:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> echo testing | bar doesn't do what you think it should apparently
[23:23:25] <Bytram> yep
[23:23:33] <Bytram> happened upon it by accident
[23:23:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you're piping the word "testing" to the COMMAND bar
[23:25:41] <Bytram> I had a program, bar.bat that contained:
[23:25:52] <Bytram> ugh lost my typing
[23:26:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> "echo foo bar baz | less" does not set the value of %less%, it pipes command output to command input
[23:26:56] <Bytram> I understand that.
[23:27:33] <Bytram> bar.bat has one command, to set the value of the bar environment variable (env var)
[23:27:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, you're bothered that a variable set within a script isn't staying set once the script ends
[23:28:09] <Bytram> normally it does retain its value. I use that feature *ALL* *THE* *TIME*
[23:28:17] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[23:29:04] <Bytram> But, if I feed anything into the batch program's STDIN, then any env vars set within that batch program become no longer visible when the batchprogram ends
[23:29:21] <Bytram> remove the feed to STDIN to the batch program, and all is right again.
[23:29:40] <chromas> Leaky pipe?
[23:29:58] <Bytram> something like that.
[23:30:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywho, ima let someone who uses winders figger that out. ima go find some chicken what needs me to eat it.
[23:30:33] <Bytram> It all came about when I was trying to set an env var to all the subids I had extracted from a source
[23:30:57] <Bytram> grep -io "subid=[1-9][0-9]*" foo.html
[23:31:33] <Bytram> that has more than just the subids, so it actually is:
[23:31:48] <Bytram> grep -io "subid=[1-9][0-9]*" foo.html | sed "s#[^[0-9]*##g"
[23:31:57] <Bytram> now have the subids, one per line
[23:33:28] <Bytram> grep -io "subid=[1-9][0-9]*" foo.html | sed "s#[^[0-9]*##g" | gawk -v fmt="SET bar=%s\n" "{x=x FS $0} END {printf fmt, substr(x,2)}" > bar.bat
[23:33:56] <Bytram> The stuff before the gawk could come from different sources.
[23:34:21] <Bytram> 1.) All files in the story submission queue that are on hold
[23:34:36] <Bytram> 2.) A merged story sitting in the submissions queue
[23:34:40] <Bytram> 3.) etc.
[23:35:32] <Bytram> so, I thought I'd just hack up a quick program to encapsulate the reading of STDIN from multiple lines, and output an anv var set to the values, blank delimited
[23:36:29] <Bytram> everything worked in isolation, but when I tired to feed data through the pipe into this batch program, the env var it set... kept disappearing!
[23:37:04] <Bytram> So, I have done some customization over the years, so it could, conceivably, be something about my setup.
[23:37:41] <Bytram> Took me a while to narrow it down to this minimalist scenario.
[23:40:15] <Bytram> break time