#editorial | Logs for 2020-03-31
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[00:45:11] <Fnord666> =diclined
[00:45:16] <Fnord666> =declined
[00:45:16] <systemd> Thanks for submitting this story. It appears that no editor has yet selected this story to be run. At least a week has passed since the story was submitted, and if an editor was going to have selected it, they would likely have done so by now. It has, therefore, been removed from the submission queue.
[00:50:17] <Bytram> Fnord666: Hiya!
[00:50:30] <Fnord666> Howdy
[00:51:52] <Fnord666> stopping by to check on the queue
[00:51:56] <Bytram> Dewdy!
[00:52:24] <Bytram> Wasn't Q the all-powerful ST:NG pain-in-the-butt?
[00:52:52] <Bytram> Or a 007 gadget wizard? I get them confused!
[00:54:47] <Fnord666> Yes!
[00:54:52] <Fnord666> Both actually
[00:55:35] <Bytram> Would make for an interesting show to have the two of them combine forces... Super-twin powers... activate!
[00:56:53] <Bytram> is that "bosses" story covid-19 related?
[00:57:01] <Bytram> Fnord666: ^^^
[00:58:03] <Fnord666> Causal effect, yes
[00:58:08] <Bytram> k
[00:58:20] <Fnord666> Are we only running covid stories in the roundup?
[00:59:31] <Bytram> as much as I just love me doing another massive covid-19 roundup (NOT!), I am trying to keep them separate from our more common story subjects, unless there is something very time sensitive or hugely impactful deserving of an earlier mention.
[00:59:33] <Bytram> thoughts?
[01:01:40] <Fnord666> I was including stories that were actually tech related as ones I might run separately and "bunching up" the ones that are more general
[01:02:07] <Fnord666> It also depends on what else is in the queue
[01:02:09] <Bytram> sorry, am not quite following that?
[01:02:19] <Bytram> I'll see what else I can find.
[01:02:35] <Fnord666> So someone coughing on the produce is not really STEM related
[01:03:24] <Bytram> depends on what kind of produce... some have stems, don't they?
[01:03:35] <Fnord666> But news about increases in remote monitoring software by companies is of interest,. It just happends to be a second order effect of coronavirus
[01:04:00] <Fnord666> true re stems. lol
[01:04:31] <Fnord666> but does that help clarify what I was saying?
[01:04:38] <Bytram> yes, thanks much!
[01:05:19] <Fnord666> Similarly I debate between a STEM related article that might be of interest vs. another sciencedaily interest that will get 1 comment and that a troll
[01:05:31] <Fnord666> sciencedaily article
[01:06:07] <Fnord666> Consider the most recent story in the sub queue
[01:06:09] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:06:28] <Fnord666> Astroboffin Gets Magnets Stuck Up His Nose Trying And Failing To Invent Anti-Face-Touching Gizmo
[01:06:33] * Bytram goes in search of... leonard nimoy, no wait, a story to sub; yeah, that's it!
[01:07:46] <Bytram> Yeah, I saw that one, but it was so well written, I could not see how to get a fair use subset of it.
[01:07:56] <Bytram> =submit http://feedproxy.google.com
[01:07:58] <systemd> Submitting "Amazon fires warehouse worker who organized Staten Island protest"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.cnet.com )
[01:08:01] <Fnord666> That's interesting, covid related and I would rather run it than have it "lost" in the compedium post
[01:08:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Amazon Fires Warehouse Worker Who Organized Staten Island Protest" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:08:27] <Fnord666> I hadn't looked at the submission, jsut the title as an example
[01:08:34] <Bytram> =submit https://www.bbc.co.uk
[01:08:36] <systemd> Submitting "'The phone slipped into the bath': Conference call tales"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.bbc.com )
[01:08:36] <exec> └─ 13'The phone slipped into the bath': Conference call tales - BBC News
[01:08:38] <Bytram> oh, got it.
[01:08:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'The Phone Slipped Into the Bath': Conference Call Tales" (28 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:09:03] <Bytram> =submit COVID-19 http://feedproxy.google.com
[01:09:05] <systemd> Submitting "Tokyo 2020 Olympics will now take place in July 2021, due to coronavirus"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.cnet.com )
[01:09:18] <Bytram> =submit COVID-19 http://feedproxy.google.com
[01:09:20] <systemd> Submitting "Airbnb to pay hosts $250 million to cover coronavirus cancellations"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.cnet.com )
[01:09:26] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Tokyo 2020 Olympics Will Now Take Place in July 2021, Due to Coronavirus" (29 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:09:38] <Bytram> =submit COVID-19 https://www.aljazeera.com
[01:09:39] <systemd> Submitting "Are all coronavirus cases being reported?"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.aljazeera.com )
[01:09:40] <exec> └─ 13Are all coronavirus cases being reported? | Health | Al Jazeera
[01:09:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Airbnb to Pay Hosts $250 Million to Cover Coronavirus Cancellations" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:10:01] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Are All Coronavirus Cases Being Reported?" (2 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:10:22] <Fnord666> Betteridge says no
[01:10:57] <Fnord666> feeding the beast, eh?
[01:11:29] <Bytram> Better the devil^W beast you know?
[01:11:38] <Bytram> Or is that beauty and the beast?
[01:11:42] <Bytram> Oh, wait!
[01:11:45] <Fnord666> lol
[01:11:53] <Bytram> #yt we've got the beast
[01:11:53] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Beauty & The Beast TV Series - We've Got Tonight
[01:11:55] <Bytram> #yt we've got the beat
[01:11:55] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- The Go-Go's - We Got The Beat (Official Video)
[01:12:31] <Fnord666> not to be too abrupt but I have to attend to a change on our production system at 9:30pm
[01:12:43] <Fnord666> and have a little prep work
[01:13:03] <Fnord666> all our prod changes occur overnight
[01:13:05] <Bytram> Oh, np! Best of luck to ya.
[01:13:07] <Fnord666> back later.
[01:13:12] <Fnord666> thanks!
[01:13:34] <Bytram> So, if/when things go sideways, there's a better chance of recovery without having a gazilllion users pounding on it at the same time
[01:16:33] <Bytram> =g lawrence welk
[01:16:34] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Lawrence Welk - Wikipedia
[01:16:43] <Bytram> I did spell it right!
[01:16:44] <Bytram> =submit From the would-Lawrence-Welk_approve? dept. https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:16:45] <systemd> Submitting "Bubbles go with the flow"...
[01:16:45] <exec> └─ 13Bubbles go with the flow -- ScienceDaily
[01:17:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Bubbles Go With the Flow" (7 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:20:17] <Bytram> =submit "How *much* of a Risk do you have of Getting a Virus on a Plane?" (Otherwise, Betteridge says no) https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:20:18] <systemd> Submitting "How at risk are you of getting a virus on an airplane? New 'CALM' model on passenger movement developed using Frontera supercomputer"...
[01:20:19] <exec> └─ 13How at risk are you of getting a virus on an airplane? New 'CALM' model on passenger movement developed using Frontera supercomputer -- ScienceDaily
[01:20:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "08How at Risk are You of Getting a Virus on an Airplane? New 'CALM' Model on Passenger Movement Develo" (31 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:27:11] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:27:12] <systemd> Submitting "In Earth's largest extinction, land animal die-offs began long before marine extinction: New dates for fossils indicate land animal turnover extended for hundreds of thousands of years"...
[01:27:12] <exec> └─ 13In Earth's largest extinction, land animal die-offs began long before marine extinction: New dates for fossils indicate land animal turnover extended for hundreds of thousands of years -- ScienceDaily
[01:27:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "08In Earth's Largest Extinction, Land Animal Die-offs Began Long Before Marine Extinction: New Dates f" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:29:31] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:29:32] <systemd> Submitting "Older people generally more emotionally healthy, better able to resist daily temptations"...
[01:29:32] <exec> └─ 13Older people generally more emotionally healthy, better able to resist daily temptations -- ScienceDaily
[01:29:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Older People Generally More Emotionally Healthy, Better Able to Resist Daily Temptations" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:11:01] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:11:03] <systemd> Submitting "Hopes for pandemic respite this spring may depend upon what happens indoors"...
[02:11:03] <exec> └─ 13Hopes for pandemic respite this spring may depend upon what happens indoors -- ScienceDaily
[02:11:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Hopes for Pandemic Respite This Spring May Depend Upon What Happens Indoors" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:15:33] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:15:34] <systemd> Submitting "Air pollution linked to dementia and cardiovascular disease"...
[02:15:34] <exec> └─ 13Air pollution linked to dementia and cardiovascular disease -- ScienceDaily
[02:15:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Air Pollution Linked to Dementia and Cardiovascular Disease" (5 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[02:17:29] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:17:30] <systemd> Submitting "Some COVID-19 patients still have coronavirus after symptoms disappear"...
[02:17:30] <exec> └─ 13Some COVID-19 patients still have coronavirus after symptoms disappear -- ScienceDaily
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[02:17:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Some COVID-19 Patients Still Have Coronavirus After Symptoms Disappear" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[12:12:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> EDS: added a short 4/1 story about the lack of a gag and the end of 4-digit uids. feel free to add stuff, just let folks know who's saying the new stuff.
[13:27:18] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: thanky...
[13:29:15] <janrinok> ~gday Bytram
[13:29:16] * exec niggardly postulates a purse of Scooby Snacks towards Bytram
[13:29:17] <Bytram> had an idea, a random (1 in 200?) toggle that would report a story as RTL instead of LTR... or base it, maybe on some part of a time stamp (odd / even )? Dunno, just want it to NOT be EASILY reproducible. Refresh, and it's gone for that story.
[13:29:28] <Bytram> Hmm, dang
[13:29:39] <Bytram> story release date/time is only accurate to the minute
[13:29:46] <Bytram> hmm
[13:29:47] <janrinok> hmmmm - why?
[13:30:28] <Bytram> when the time of the user's query has a seconds part that matches the minutes part of the release date time, then one time in 10, do RTL?
[13:30:31] <Bytram> why not
[13:30:58] <Bytram> WIth all the gloom and doom with the pandemic, nice to toss a little benign something out there.
[13:31:11] <Bytram> With the date, it should be obvious what is happening.
[13:31:37] <janrinok> it is - but you have discussed it on here which is public....?
[13:32:03] <Bytram> besides, doesn't matter which way it is written normal, upside down, backwards, upside down and backwards, I can read it fine!
[13:32:43] <Bytram> my bad, but I'd suspect we have far more readers of the site than those who read this channel.
[13:33:01] <Bytram> 27 here atm
[13:33:05] <janrinok> I hope so - otherwise we are wasting our lime lol!
[13:33:09] <janrinok> time*
[13:34:00] <Bytram> emit - what happens when time runs backwards (or, at least, when it is spelled that way!)
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[15:23:19] <Bytram> ~time x
[15:23:21] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 31 March 2020, 3:23 pm
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[15:42:43] <Bytram> ~arthir https://threatpost.com
[15:42:45] <exec> └─ 13Millions of Guests Impacted in Marriott Data Breach, Again | Threatpost
[15:42:48] <Bytram> lol
[15:42:54] <Bytram> ~arthur https://threatpost.com
[15:42:56] <exec> └─ 13Millions of Guests Impacted in Marriott Data Breach, Again | Threatpost
[15:42:58] <exec> 501 stories loaded
[15:42:58] <exec> story not found
[15:43:05] <Bytram> =submit https://threatpost.com
[15:43:07] <systemd> Submitting "Millions of Guests Impacted in Marriott Data Breach, Again"...
[15:43:07] <exec> └─ 13Millions of Guests Impacted in Marriott Data Breach, Again | Threatpost
[15:43:29] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Millions of Guests Impacted in Marriott Data Breach, Again" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:46:45] <chromas> ~arthirutis
[15:47:12] <Bytram> I would have replied earlier, but, well, you know. ;)
[15:50:07] <chromas> I know, you're on Windows
[15:50:20] <Bytram> https://twitter.com
[15:50:21] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[15:50:22] <exec> └─ 13Twitter
[15:51:07] <chromas> Weird that it scrolls down to the spam reply
[15:53:39] <Bytram> https://www.mdl3.top
[15:53:42] <systemd> ^ 03Elon Musk — Ethereum Competition – Elon Musk – Medium
[15:53:42] <exec> └─ 13Elon Musk — Ethereum Competition – 20.000 ETH Giveaway – Medium
[15:54:12] <Bytram> Huh?
[15:54:14] <chromas> It's just a spam. Pretty much always posted on his tweets
[15:54:30] <Bytram> Need to allow javascript from yandex.ru
[15:54:33] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:54:54] <chromas> Russian haxx
[15:55:15] <Bytram> https://twitter.com
[15:55:16] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[15:55:17] <exec> └─ 13Twitter
[17:23:53] <chromas> We could at least put a Beta stamp on the logo
[17:23:59] <chromas> for April 1
[17:53:24] <carny> =submit from the here-we-go-again dept. http://feedproxy.google.com
[17:53:26] <systemd> Submitting "Marriott discloses new data breach impacting 5.2 million guests"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.cnet.com )
[17:53:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Marriott Discloses New Data Breach Impacting 5.2 Million Guests" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:54:16] <carny> so that one can be combined with the threatpost sub right?
[17:54:36] <Bytram> would have to look at the both of them
[17:55:25] <carny> i mean is it a fairly automated process of merging subs in general?
[17:55:28] <Bytram> Now, if you were to take the threatpost sub, and this one, and merge them into a single submission, much as you've seen us do on the site... well, that would surely improve the chances of it getting used.
[17:55:36] <Bytram> yes, and no
[17:55:45] <Bytram> cat foo bar > bazz
[17:55:55] <Bytram> but do you wnat to read that?
[17:56:54] <Bytram> so, then comes in the editor's effort to distilling the merge.
[17:57:14] <Bytram> let's say, for example, that the cnet story quotes the threatpost story almost exclusively.
[17:57:49] <Bytram> If it does not bring anything additional to the table, I'd just decline it and stick with the threatpost story.
[17:57:57] <Bytram> make sense?
[17:59:04] <Bytram> oh, and fwiw, sometimes it does this, instead:
[17:59:14] <Bytram> cat bar foo > bazz
[18:00:11] <Bytram> there's no apparent rhyme or reason of what order the merged stories end up in... I suspect it's in whatever order the DB returns them.
[18:00:40] <Bytram> carny: Does that help?
[18:03:48] <carny> yes
[18:04:00] <carny> so there's really no point in submitting a 2nd url
[18:04:19] <Bytram> did you not notice my caveat?
[18:04:26] <carny> instead i need to just create my own sub on the site with all the urls and text and edit it by hand
[18:04:40] <Bytram> <Bytram> If it does not bring anything additional to the table, I'd just decline it and stick with the threatpost story.
[18:04:51] <carny> yes and your caveat means using irc is just not that effective
[18:05:18] <Bytram> It may well be that the cnet story way use multiple sources and glean something by analyzing threatpost and other sources.
[18:05:50] <carny> right
[18:05:56] <Bytram> irc is a *workaround* to their being a dearth of story submissions
[18:06:58] <Bytram> there have been times when one editor would search the web looking for something for SN, hastily craft up a submission by hand, submit it and the other editor would review, cleanup, and queue to the site.
[18:07:11] <janrinok> In this case they both seem to be pointing at exactly the same story, aren't they
[18:07:41] <Bytram> and the role of searcher and submitter and reviewer may alternate as to who is finished with what, fist
[18:07:44] <Bytram> *first
[18:08:25] <Bytram> I witnessed JR and LamX do it many a time, and I've done tag-team editting with cmn32480 on many an occasion, too.
[18:08:42] <Bytram> janrinok: no idea, have not looked at them yet
[18:08:52] <Bytram> just speaking in generalities
[18:09:03] <Bytram> i.e. doing a little edumacation =)
[18:09:19] <Bytram> gotta rest, arms are sore from typing
[18:09:20] <Bytram> biab
[18:09:22] <Bytram> afk
[18:10:07] <janrinok> carny - I've checked and they are different sources and would probably merge together nicely.
[18:11:29] <janrinok> carny - if you want to make it obvious to whichever editor processes them both, when you submit the second submission you can suggest a merge with 'Other Title' so we can see immediately that they are linked
[18:13:12] <janrinok> The Threatpost story seems to be the most comprehensive of the 2
[18:13:58] <janrinok> HTH
[18:14:36] * janrinok notes that should also have been 'more comprehensive of the two'
[20:24:07] <Bytram> janrinok: et 2, brute'?
[22:10:36] <Bytram> https://www.google.com
[22:10:37] <systemd> ^ 03Helen Oxenbury - Google Search
[22:10:40] <exec> └─ 13Helen Oxenbury - Google Search
[22:11:00] <Bytram> https://www.google.com
[22:11:01] <systemd> ^ 03Helen Oxenbury - Google Search
[22:11:02] <exec> └─ 13Helen Oxenbury - Google Search
[23:30:01] <Bytram> whereto? https://youtu.be
[23:30:03] <systemd> ^ 03Tim Bell huge crash in-car ( https://www.youtube.com )
[23:30:03] <exec> └─ 13YouTube