#editorial | Logs for 2020-03-27

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[00:01:37] <Bytram> =yt look on the bright side of life
[00:01:38] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Eric Idle - "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" - STEREO HQ (3:11)
[00:01:48] <Bytram> =yt look on the bright side of life song
[00:01:49] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Eric Idle - "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" - STEREO HQ (3:11)
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[02:50:39] <Bytram> time for bed; have a great night everybody!
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[11:46:22] <Bytram> =cite https://www.nejm.org
[11:46:24] <exec> └─ 13Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1 | NEJM
[11:46:30] <Bytram> lol
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[12:49:18] <Bytram> whereto? https://go.theregister.co.uk
[12:49:18] <systemd> ^ 03What happens when the maintainer of a JS library downloaded 26m times a week goes to prison for killing someone with a motorbike? Core-js just found out ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[12:49:19] <exec> └─ 13What happens when the maintainer of a JS library downloaded 26m times a week goes to prison for killing someone with a motorbike? Core-js just found out • The Register
[12:54:04] <AzumaHazuki> hopefully the answer is "people use less javascript"
[13:01:54] <Bytram> lol!
[13:02:00] <Bytram> =g "Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1"
[13:02:01] <systemd> https://www.nejm.org - Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with ...
[13:02:15] <Bytram> =g "Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1" -nejm.com
[13:02:15] <systemd> https://www.nejm.org - Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with ...
[13:02:20] <Bytram> hrm
[13:02:50] <Bytram> =cite https://www.nejm.org
[13:02:52] <exec> └─ 13Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1 | NEJM
[13:03:01] <Bytram> yeah, thought so.
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[19:28:19] <Bytram> =submit https://www.the-scientist.com
[19:28:21] <exec> └─ 13Animal Facilities Make Tough Decisions as Pandemic Closes Labs | The Scientist Magazine®
[19:28:35] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.theregister.co.uk
[19:28:35] <janrinok> Bytram, did you enjoy being outside?
[19:28:38] <exec> └─ 13What happens when the maintainer of a JS library downloaded 26m times a week goes to prison for killing someone with a motorbike? Core-js just found out • The Register
[19:28:39] <exec> 889 stories loaded
[19:28:40] <exec> attempting to submit story: "What happens when the maintainer of a JS library downloaded 26m times a week goes to prison for killing someone with a motorbike? Core-js just found out"
[19:29:11] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[19:29:16] <exec> 889 stories loaded
[19:29:30] <janrinok> I've filled 25% of the weekend stories!
[19:29:37] <Bytram> Yes! Nice to be out in the sun, but the wind has picked up quite a bit (~40 kph) so that put a chill on things
[19:29:44] <Bytram> yes, I saw...
[19:29:49] <Bytram> janrinok++ Thank you!
[19:29:49] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 91
[19:30:01] <janrinok> same here - temperature has dropped but it is still sunny
[19:30:19] <Bytram> Looks like I haven's lost my skill...
[19:30:34] <janrinok> what, your typing skill?
[19:30:37] <Bytram> invoked Systemd with a command... and it upped and died.
[19:30:43] <Bytram> =)
[19:31:04] <janrinok> which command - because you were obviously not holding it right or something
[19:31:18] <Bytram> Is best to not try and check the value of an argument when none was given.
[19:31:26] <Bytram> =list
[19:31:30] <Bytram> =help
[19:31:31] <systemd> blame, caps, cite, contribute, declinectl, declined, do, doi, dump, folding-rank, g, gcctl, join, nick, notes, part, rehashctl, save, say, sedctl, sub, submit, taco, tacoctl, threadcount, y, yt, gday
[19:31:36] <Bytram> ^^^ one of those
[19:32:01] <janrinok> ah, systemd the bot, not systemd on your Ubuntu lappy....
[19:32:17] <Bytram> I would rather not blow it up again without having chromas around to resuscitate it... does too many useful things!
[19:32:19] <Bytram> yep!
[19:32:31] <Bytram> How are YOU doing?
[19:32:41] <Bytram> And S, too, for that matter.
[19:32:46] <janrinok> but we all expect you to break things!
[19:33:40] <janrinok> My weekly shopping day today, so sneaking around trying to avoid other shoppers. Got into the garden this afternoon, and S is just about to go to sleep.
[19:33:42] <Bytram> Instead of Doctor McCoy's oft-repeated "He's dead, Jim" we now have "You broke it, Bytram." =)
[19:33:51] <Bytram> Good good
[19:34:08] <Bytram> sounds like reasonable adaptation to the new not-normal normal.
[19:34:25] <janrinok> I made lobster in a cream and dijon mustard sauce - fresh lobster, still moving when I bought it, definitely not moving now
[19:34:38] <Bytram> Still wish there were some way I could come over and physically assist so you could get a break.
[19:35:17] <janrinok> thanks for the thought - but we wouldn't have shared the lobster!
[19:35:36] <Bytram> If it were not frozen or canned when you bought it, then it better be moving... can cause illness otherwise. At least that's what I remember a chef telling me many many years ago...
[19:35:50] <janrinok> I just do what I can each day, Things that don't get done will have to wait for tomorrow
[19:36:11] <chromas> Why do today what can be put off until tomorrow?
[19:36:14] <Bytram> if, when you goto buy a lobster, it's already red and/or not moving, don't buy it.
[19:36:17] <Bytram> =submit
[19:36:17] <systemd> Submit one or more links plus some text if you want
[19:36:21] <Bytram> YAY!
[19:36:25] <janrinok> The beauty of living on the French coast is that fish and shell fish are both plentiful and relatively cheap
[19:36:31] <Bytram> chromas++ another one bytes the dust!
[19:36:31] <Bender> karma - chromas: 132
[19:36:43] <chromas> I haven't fixed that bug yet
[19:36:57] <Bytram> =unicode –
[19:37:26] <Bytram> oh? Last time I tried submit with no args, it up and died.
[19:37:29] <janrinok> we don't buy tinned lobster - I would be dismissed from the village if I even mentioned it
[19:37:44] <chromas> You didn't give no arguments this time
[19:38:32] <Bytram> I hear tell if it did not come from Maine (or, okay, northeastern US / Canada) you really are talking about crayfish or something tha tis definitely NOT lobster.
[19:38:36] <Bytram> =submit
[19:38:36] <systemd> Submit one or more links plus some text if you want
[19:38:49] <Bytram> ^^^ see, no argument, and not dead yet!
[19:38:58] <chromas> No self-respecting southerner uses instant [lobster]. I take pride in my [lobster].
[19:39:06] <chromas> cite was the one dun killed it
[19:39:17] <chromas> =cite
[19:39:17] <systemd> Generate a block of HTML for citing an article. Takes DOIs and URLs
[19:39:21] <chromas> =cite
[19:39:21] <systemd> Generate a block of HTML for citing an article. Takes DOIs and URLs
[19:39:22] <chromas> hm
[19:39:33] <chromas> or I dunno
[19:39:58] <chromas> I saw it go by in the chat but now I don't even see it
[19:40:07] <Bytram> Hmm, I will find it... just a moment or two
[19:40:14] <janrinok> If you search the internet you will find that there are 3 varieties of lobster, and the Breton/English Channel variety is the sweetest, Maine has the largest, and Australia has one with spikey legs (that will probably try to kill you, as most Aussie animals will)
[19:40:24] <chromas> I saw it in the bot output. Range violation in line 21 of utils.d
[19:41:16] <chromas> I dunno about lobster but I bet the American is the sweetest. We add sugar to everything for some reason
[19:41:44] <chromas> I saw prefabbed potato salad with added sugar. gross
[19:41:52] <janrinok> That's corn syrup - and ours is naturally sweet but I haven't a clue why
[19:42:18] <Bytram> =caps
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[19:42:22] <chromas> that was it
[19:42:28] <Bytram> ^^ found it!
[19:42:29] <janrinok> Probably because it eats something disgusting that we don't need to know about....
[19:42:46] <Bytram> =blame
[19:42:49] <Bytram> =)
[19:42:59] <Bytram> ^^^ not my fault, see!!!!!!!!
[19:44:10] <chromas> See I even had the line number wrong even though I'd just seen it. Line 76.
[19:45:27] <chromas> I think it's a mutual thing between you and your lobsters. You butter them up and they sweeten the deal.
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[19:47:00] <Bytram> just don't get caught in a small place with a big one... you'll have clawstrophobia!
[19:47:08] <Bytram> =blame
[19:47:08] * systemd-notfixedd points at Bytram
[19:47:08] <Bytram> =caps
[19:47:08] <Bytram> =cite
[19:47:08] <Bytram> =contribute
[19:47:08] <Bytram> =declinectl
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[19:47:09] <Bytram> =declined
[19:47:11] <Bytram> =do
[19:47:13] <Bytram> =doi
[19:47:15] <Bytram> =dump
[19:47:17] <Bytram> =folding-rank
[19:47:19] <Bytram> =g
[19:47:21] <Bytram> =gcctl
[19:47:23] <Bytram> =join
[19:47:27] <Bytram> =nick
[19:47:29] <Bytram> =notes
[19:47:31] <Bytram> =part
[19:47:33] <Bytram> =rehashctl
[19:47:35] <Bytram> =save
[19:47:37] <Bytram> =say
[19:47:39] <Bytram> =sedctl
[19:47:41] <Bytram> =sub
[19:47:42] <chromas> bot's gone but your paste keeps comin'
[19:47:43] <Bytram> =submit
[19:47:45] <Bytram> =taco
[19:47:47] <Bytram> =tacoctl
[19:47:49] <Bytram> =threadcount
[19:47:51] <Bytram> =y
[19:47:52] <cmn32480> ~blame
[19:47:53] <Bytram> =yt
[19:47:54] * exec points at Bytram
[19:47:57] <Bytram> =gday
[19:47:59] <Bytram> missed one
[19:48:01] <Bytram> +blame
[19:48:03] <Bytram> =blame
[19:48:07] <Bytram> helps to narrow down which command did it... I planned ahead!
[19:48:09] <Bytram> teamwork++
[19:48:09] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 225
[19:49:18] <Bytram> brb, short break
[19:54:52] <cmn32480> long bbbbbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[19:54:57] <janrinok> gtg
[19:55:13] <janrinok> laters everyone!
[19:55:20] <cmn32480> ~gnight janrinok
[19:55:22] * exec almost incoherently enriches your mom's bra, full of dag with janrinok
[20:06:51] <Bytram> janrinok: have a good night~
[20:07:07] <Bytram> =blame
[20:10:31] <Bytram> chromas: While you are in the guts of the bot, may I add a wish list item? If =cite is called with no argument, then it Issues a message about usage on one line, and on the next gives an example of the output with parameterized values? Sometimes, it cannot come up with a cite (which is understandable, it's amazing it works as well as it does!) But in those cases, it's nice to have a prototype that I can use and fill in the information
[20:10:31] <Bytram> that I do have and put THAT in a story.
[20:12:05] <Bytram> ${authors}. ${journal_article_title} <cite>${journal_name}</cite> etc...
[20:12:05] <fungus> ? Unknown Style "authors" ?. $? Unknown Style "journal_article_title" ? <cite>$? Unknown Style "journal_name" ?</cite> etc...
[20:12:13] <Bytram> ROFT!
[20:12:19] <Bytram> Like this: ${authors}. ${journal_article_title} <cite>${journal_name}</cite> etc...
[20:13:12] <Bytram> And one last wish list item? =unicode ${string} returns all variants on the argument.
[20:15:39] <Bytram> Glyph: "'" Decimal numerical character entity: "'" Hexadecimal numerical character "entity: '" Named character entity: "'"
[20:16:30] * chromas puts it in the queue
[20:16:40] <Bytram> thanky!!!
[20:16:48] <Bytram> =g unicode '
[20:22:04] <Bytram> #g unicode '
[20:22:05] <MrPlow> http://www.madore.org - "(Note that the “ ' ” entity is only available in XHTML and not in plain HTML .) For each character, the first column gives the Unicode hexadecimal number of ..."
[20:22:21] <Bytram> #g unicode map
[20:22:22] <MrPlow> https://unicode-table.com - "Unicode character search web service. Find, copy and paste your favorite characters: Emoji, ❤ Hearts, Currencies, → Arrows, ☆ Stars and more."
[20:22:36] <Bytram> #g unicode map apos
[20:22:36] <MrPlow> https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk - "Dec 19, 1999 ... If you can use only ASCII's typewriter characters, then use the apostrophe character (0x27) as both the left and right quotation mark (as in ..."
[20:22:58] <Bytram> #g unicode map unicode-table apos
[20:22:59] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "This is a list of Unicode characters. As of version 13.0, Unicode contains a repertoire of over ... Deprecated, U+0149, ŉ, 329, Latin Small Letter N preceded by apostrophe, 0265. European Latin, U+014A, Ŋ, 330, &ENG;, Latin Capital Letter Eng ..."
[20:23:10] <Bytram> dang
[20:23:34] <Bytram> I remember a website that succinctly presented any given char in all its formats
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[23:29:39] <Bytram> and the web site totally escapes me atm
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