#editorial | Logs for 2020-03-26

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[00:19:32] <chromas> I'm sure I've seen sites with authors in the metadata but I can't find 'em now
[00:31:12] * Bytram wonders how they can fit in there, never mind breathe.
[00:32:15] <Bytram> whereto? https://go.theregister.co.uk
[00:32:16] <systemd> ^ 03Internet sage says he'll sell 14,000,000 IPv4 addresses worth $300m, plow it into Asia-Pacific connectivity ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[00:32:17] <exec> └─ 13Internet sage says he'll sell 14,000,000 IPv4 addresses worth $300m, plow it into Asia-Pacific connectivity • The Register
[00:33:20] <chromas> I should see if Charter's ipv6 support is decent yet
[00:33:37] <chromas> Having billions of ips makes sockpuppeting so much easier
[00:39:14] <chromas> ugh
[00:39:30] <chromas> It'd be nice if standardized tags were used in a standardized way
[00:40:04] <Bytram> What we need is a new standard to bring them all together
[00:40:08] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:40:08] <systemd> ^ 03Internet sage says he'll sell 14,000,000 IPv4 addresses worth $300m, plow it into Asia-Pacific connectivity
[00:40:09] <exec> └─ 13Internet sage says he'll sell 14,000,000 IPv4 addresses worth $300m, plow it into Asia-Pacific connectivity • The Register
[00:40:19] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:40:22] <exec> └─ 13Internet sage says he'll sell 14,000,000 IPv4 addresses worth $300m, plow it into Asia-Pacific connectivity • The Register
[00:40:23] <exec> 852 stories loaded
[00:40:23] <exec> story not found
[00:40:50] <Bytram> =submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:40:51] <systemd> Submitting "Internet sage says he'll sell 14,000,000 IPv4 addresses worth $300m, plow it into Asia-Pacific connectivity"...
[00:40:52] <exec> └─ 13Internet sage says he'll sell 14,000,000 IPv4 addresses worth $300m, plow it into Asia-Pacific connectivity • The Register
[00:41:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "08Internet Sage Says He'll Sell 14,000,000 IPv4 Addresses Worth $300m, Plow It Into Asia-Pacific Conne" (31 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:41:50] <chromas> Yeah there's only at least 7 different meta tags for titles, besides the <title> tag
[00:42:09] <Bytram> catenate 'em all together
[00:42:39] <Bytram> Are the titles different?
[00:42:46] <chromas> oh no that's site name. Title has 8
[00:42:53] <chromas> Sometimes
[00:42:55] <Bytram> if they are all the same (or empty), then what's the problem?
[00:43:17] <chromas> It's just dumb to have so many
[00:43:29] <chromas> Some sites have some tags, other sites have others
[00:43:36] <Bytram> If there are differences, post links here and we can try loading it in browsers and see what *they* end up using.
[00:43:39] <Bytram> And thedre
[00:43:40] <chromas> For the article authors tags, they are different though
[00:44:05] <Bytram> I was trying to type: and there you go.
[00:44:25] <chromas> DC.Contributor just has the person's name, while citation_author has their dept, college, city and country. At least on bmj.com
[00:45:04] <Bytram> =suibmit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:45:05] <exec> └─ 13Adobe debuts disk-cleaning tool cleverly disguised as an arbitrary file deletion bug in Creative Cloud on Windows • The Register
[00:45:18] <chromas> I'm just whining 'cause I'm working on the bot. I want it to look for any of the tags since not all sites have the same ones
[00:46:36] <Bytram> Make a file, put ALL of them in there, each with a different title, load it up in a few browsers, and see if they agree on what the title is. If so, there you go.
[00:47:00] <Bytram> If not, we'll give it some more thought. =)
[00:47:33] <chromas> sciencedirect--
[00:47:33] <Bender> karma - sciencedirect: -1
[00:47:45] <chromas> They don't even have authors
[00:49:00] <Bytram> Whoopss! https://regmedia.co.uk
[00:49:01] <chromas> isn't elsevier one of the publishers nobody likes?
[00:49:15] <Bytram> cf: https://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:49:16] <systemd> ^ 03The shelves may be empty, but the disk is full: Not even Linux can resist the bork at times
[00:49:16] <exec> └─ 13The shelves may be empty, but the disk is full: Not even Linux can resist the bork at times • The Register
[00:49:21] <chromas> Wow. People still use LILO?
[00:49:28] <Bytram> yes... rent seeking journal publisher.
[00:49:56] <chromas> I've never had a paper published but I don't like them just because they skimp on the metadata
[00:49:56] <Bytram> Not sure if people still use LILO, but it sure looks like the computer does. =)
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[01:37:11] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencemag.org
[01:37:13] <systemd> Submitting "Mathematics of life and death: How disease models shape national shutdowns and other pandemic policies"...
[01:37:34] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "08Mathematics of Life and Death: How Disease Models Shape National Shutdowns and Other Pandemic Polici" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:50:53] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedirect.com
[01:50:54] <systemd> ^ 03New toothed pterosaurs (Pterosauria: Ornithocheiridae) from the middle Cretaceous Kem Kem beds of Morocco and implications for pterosaur palaeobiogeography and diversity
[01:50:56] <exec> └─ 13New toothed pterosaurs (Pterosauria: Ornithocheiridae) from the middle Cretaceous Kem Kem beds of Morocco and implications for pterosaur palaeobiogeography and diversity - ScienceDirect
[01:50:58] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedirect.com
[01:50:59] <systemd> ^ 03New toothed pterosaurs (Pterosauria: Ornithocheiridae) from the middle Cretaceous Kem Kem beds of Morocco and implications for pterosaur palaeobiogeography and diversity
[01:51:00] <exec> └─ 13New toothed pterosaurs (Pterosauria: Ornithocheiridae) from the middle Cretaceous Kem Kem beds of Morocco and implications for pterosaur palaeobiogeography and diversity - ScienceDirect
[02:01:35] <Bytram> =g Frontier Aerospace nasa thruster
[02:01:36] <systemd> https://www.astrobotic.com - Frontier Aerospace Selected for NASA Award to Develop Deep ...
[02:01:52] <Bytram> =g Frontier Aerospace nasa thruster moon lander
[02:01:53] <systemd> https://www.astrobotic.com - Frontier Aerospace Selected for NASA Award to Develop Deep ...
[02:02:20] <Bytram> =g Frontier Aerospace testing nasa thruster moon lander
[02:02:21] <systemd> https://gameon.nasa.gov - Moon Thrusters Withstand Over 60 Hot-Fire Tests | Space ...
[02:19:38] <chromas> Journal Reference ${title}${access}, <cite>${journal}</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/${doi}">${doi}</a>)
[02:19:39] <fungus_> Journal Reference $? Unknown Style "title" ?$? Unknown Style "access" ?, <cite>$? Unknown Style "journal" ?</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/$? Unknown Style "doi" ?">$? Unknown Style "doi" ?</a>)
[02:19:40] <exec> └─ 13Page Not Found
[02:19:41] <exec> └─ 13Error: DOI Not Found
[02:19:54] <chromas> Where should the authors string go? Right after the title?
[02:25:17] <Bytram> not following you thee
[02:25:23] * Bytram yanws
[02:25:40] <Bytram> not following you there (aka IDK)
[02:25:43] <chromas> Oh, it's the template for the =cite block
[02:26:28] <Bytram> Oh, the very first thing!
[02:26:48] <chromas> So authors, then title
[02:26:52] <chromas> ok
[02:27:42] <Bytram> $authors. $tile, <cite>$journal</cite> DOI: <a href="">DOI_link</a>
[02:27:55] <Bytram> (from memory)
[02:29:06] <Bytram> check out science daily; most articles have a link to the journal material.
[02:29:20] <Bytram> eyes are barely open...
[02:29:29] <Bytram> thanks for following up.
[02:30:21] <chromas> Just gotta add a couple lines of code and test it so it should be in the bot in a few minutes
[02:30:59] <Bytram> chromas: Don't look now, but there might be a couple stories in the submissions queue that could be pushed out with very little work. =)
[02:31:04] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:31:13] <Bytram> chromas++ thank you!
[02:31:13] <Bender> karma - chromas: 131
[02:31:25] <Bytram> gotta sleep.
[02:31:30] <Bytram> laters
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[02:50:37] <chromas> =cite http://dx.doi.org
[02:50:39] <systemd> Journal Reference Yongjuan Guan, N. Adrian Leu, Jun Ma et al. SKP1 drives the prophase I to metaphase I transition during male meiosis [open], <cite>Science Advances</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.aaz2129">10.1126/sciadv.aaz2129</a>)
[02:50:40] <chromas> Yay
[02:50:41] <exec> └─ 13SKP1 drives the prophase I to metaphase I transition during male meiosis | Science Advances
[03:43:00] <chromas> Whew. That was a lot of hard work, clicking preview then setting a time on one whole pre-edited sub :D
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[09:04:17] <Bytram> Ooops!
[09:04:38] <Bytram> does anyone really know what day it is?
[09:05:00] <janrinok> Bytram, it's today
[09:05:16] <janrinok> here it is Thursday morning
[09:05:48] <Bytram> yeah, but I was scheduling stories for tomorrow, and somehow thought that was Saturday and I forgot to use weekend spacing
[09:05:56] <Bytram> so I fixed them
[09:06:05] <Bytram> when they did not need fixing =(
[09:06:19] <Bytram> will fix now;
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[09:06:28] <janrinok> so it's not today, it's really tomorrow and you thought you were processing for Saturday!
[09:06:42] <Bytram> I have a tool that easily calcs release date/time... give me a couple minutes
[09:06:45] <Bytram> 'zactly
[09:06:55] <janrinok> well, I'm glad we cleared that up!
[09:07:13] <Bytram> =g who's on first tomorrow
[09:07:14] <systemd> https://www.baseball-almanac.com - Who's on First? by Abbott and Costello
[09:08:08] <Bytram> there's 1 out of 3
[09:09:00] <Bytram> #2 of 3
[09:09:42] <Bytram> #3 of 3
[09:09:43] <Bytram> done
[09:10:25] <Bytram> And to top it off, I did all 4 of those subs with my mobile phone, and the 3 mistaken reschedulings on my phone, as well
[09:10:26] <janrinok> looks like you and Fnord666 were busy after I went to bed!
[09:10:36] <Bytram> talk about doing things the hard way!
[09:10:36] <janrinok> masochist!
[09:11:50] <Bytram> I got in a bit of a lead, and Fnord666 went and ran with it, then submitted 4 stories, too, which were pretty easy to process
[09:11:57] <janrinok> I'm stuck indoors so far today - expecting a parcel of medical supplies and with the current lockdown if I am not near the front door they might simply not deliver
[09:12:07] <Bytram> web cam?
[09:12:14] <Bytram> motion sensor?
[09:12:30] <janrinok> doesn't matter - if I am out in the garden I will not see/hear either of them
[09:13:37] <janrinok> so I'm moving from computer to doing ironing and general housework - but I'm gravitating more towards the computer...
[09:13:53] <Bytram> #yt got to get back to the garden woodstock
[09:13:54] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Joni Mitchell - Woodstock (Live In-Studio 1970)
[09:14:03] <janrinok> what are you doing up at this ungodly hour (for you)
[09:15:45] <Bytram> nature call, checked queue, saw Fnord666 had been busy, 2nded his stories, saw his subs, processed those to give us some breathing room (heh!), then rescheduled 3 of them, then realized I was scheduling them wrong, and gave up with mobile phone processing and jumped online with my lappy
[09:15:58] <Bytram> Short answer? typing!
[09:16:32] <janrinok> we are 24 hours ahead of the game so why do it now?
[09:18:05] <Bytram> because it's nice to have a large chunk of time that I know is covered so I can *really* relax for a bit.
[09:18:49] <Bytram> We were running pretty tight there for the better part of a day or two
[09:19:31] <janrinok> I'm just waiting for the first of todays stories to arrive from Arthur so that I can pick some for the weekend
[09:20:21] <Bytram> nod nod
[09:20:26] <Bytram> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[09:20:27] <systemd> ^ 03Government orders 10,000 ventilators from Dyson
[09:20:27] <exec> └─ 13Coronavirus: Government orders 10,000 ventilators from Dyson - BBC News
[09:20:46] <Bytram> https://www.aljazeera.com
[09:20:47] <systemd> ^ 03Coronavirus death toll passes 1,000 in US: Live updates
[09:20:48] <exec> └─ 13Coronavirus death toll passes 1,000 in US: Live updates | News | Al Jazeera
[09:22:09] * Bytram had a journal article he was writing, was 80-90% of the way done. got busy with processing stories, then saw a browser update was available, so installed that, pending journal article disappeared.
[09:22:10] <janrinok> Venezuela's satellite is broken: https://phys.org but not enough info for a submission
[09:22:12] <systemd> ^ 03Venezuelan communications satellite out of service
[09:22:12] <exec> └─ 13Venezuelan communications satellite out of service
[09:22:15] <Bytram> distractions--
[09:22:15] <Bender> karma - distractions: -1
[09:23:32] <janrinok> it is 'not good' when that happens. Another thing that bugs me is when I am writing an editors note on the submission page and it refreshes itself. Everything I've typed disappears too.
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[09:24:29] <Bytram> https://go.theregister.co.uk
[09:24:30] <systemd> ^ 03Sharp gobbles NEC as Japan's display giants team up to take on Europe and North America ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[09:24:30] <exec> └─ 13Sharp gobbles NEC as Japan's display giants team up to take on Europe and North America • The Register
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[09:24:50] <Bytram> ~arthurr https://www.theregister.co.uk
[09:24:52] <exec> └─ 13Sharp gobbles NEC as Japan's display giants team up to take on Europe and North America • The Register
[09:25:04] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.theregister.co.uk
[09:25:06] <exec> └─ 13Sharp gobbles NEC as Japan's display giants team up to take on Europe and North America • The Register
[09:25:07] <exec> 622 stories loaded
[09:25:08] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Sharp gobbles NEC as Japan's display giants team up to take on Europe and North America"
[09:25:38] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[09:25:44] <exec> 621 stories loaded
[09:26:54] * Bytram remembers a time when the rule of thumb was to always get your displays from Techtronix and bench equipment from HP... they were the best in those realms. Might be a bit pricey, but you don't get what you don't pay for!
[09:28:22] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[09:28:23] <systemd> Submitting "Patients at risk of drug-induced sudden cardiac death in COVID-19"...
[09:28:23] <exec> └─ 13Patients at risk of drug-induced sudden cardiac death in COVID-19 -- ScienceDaily
[09:28:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Patients at Risk of Drug-induced Sudden Cardiac Death in COVID-19" (19 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:28:45] <Bytram> =submit
[09:28:46] <systemd> Submit one or more links plus some text if you want
[09:28:53] <Bytram> =submit http://feedproxy.google.com
[09:28:55] <systemd> Submitting "Hertz is giving NYC health-care workers free car rentals during coronavirus epidemic - Roadshow"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.cnet.com )
[09:29:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Hertz is Giving NYC Health-care Workers Free Car Rentals During Coronavirus Epidemic - Roadshow" (7 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:29:44] <Bytram> as for parking expenses... you're on your own
[09:30:05] <Bytram> that does it for me; heading back to bed
[09:32:02] <Bytram> janrinok: good to 'see' you; good luck with your package delivery... Hmm, how granular is their package tracking? In the states, UPS does a good job of telling where a package is at and when delivery is expected.
[09:32:12] <Bytram> anywhey, laters!
[09:32:22] <janrinok> laters
[09:33:44] <Bytram> Did you hear that with all the brou-ha-ha about the coronavirus pandemic, Superman started binge eating? Yep! Now it's "Up! Up! And aweigh.. oomph, never mind." =)
[09:34:05] <janrinok> go to sleep!
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[19:18:05] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[19:18:07] <systemd> ^ 03Indy 500 postponed due to coronavirus - Roadshow ( https://www.cnet.com )
[19:18:20] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.cnet.com
[19:18:22] <exec> └─ 13Indy 500 postponed due to coronavirus - Roadshow
[19:18:23] <exec> 894 stories loaded
[19:18:24] <exec> story not found
[19:18:29] <Bytram> okay then
[19:18:35] <Bytram> =submit https://www.cnet.com
[19:18:37] <exec> └─ 13Indy 500 postponed due to coronavirus - Roadshow
[19:18:37] <systemd> Submitting "Indy 500 postponed due to coronavirus - Roadshow"...
[19:18:59] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Indy 500 Postponed Due to Coronavirus - Roadshow" (5 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:23:24] <Bytram> afk
[19:52:48] <Bytram> =g free unity tutorial
[19:52:49] <systemd> https://learn.unity.com - Unity Learn
[19:58:58] <Bytram> http://www.youtube.com
[19:58:59] <exec> └─ 13Live Broadcast: Atlas V AEHF-6 - YouTube
[19:58:59] <systemd> ^ 03Live Broadcast: Atlas V AEHF-6 ( https://www.youtube.com )
[20:10:15] <chromas> Aw
[20:10:35] <chromas> Great stream though. It's nice to hear the people instead of talking heads jubber jabbering
[20:12:24] <Bytram> ~time x
[20:12:26] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Thursday, 26 March 2020, 8:12 pm
[20:15:04] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[20:15:06] <systemd> ^ 03For the First Time, the US Space Force Will Actually Try to go to Space Today - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[20:15:08] <exec> └─ 13For the First Time, the US Space Force Will Actually Try to go to Space Today - SoylentNews
[20:15:20] <Bytram> brb
[20:20:17] <Bytram> And it's on its way
[20:20:39] <Bytram> no telemetry
[20:20:48] <Bytram> MAXQ reached
[20:21:04] <Bytram> alt 10mi 6mi downrange 320 mph
[20:21:14] <Bytram> 75% thrust
[20:21:24] <Bytram> SRB burnout
[20:21:33] <Bytram> TD-180 to full thrust
[20:21:39] <Bytram> SRB jetison
[20:21:48] <Bytram> closed loop guidance
[20:21:56] <Bytram> T+2min
[20:22:22] <Bytram> alt 40mi down range 6mi
[20:22:27] <Bytram> 2 minutes until MECO
[20:22:42] <Bytram> consrtnt 2.5G accel
[20:23:04] <Bytram> 7500 mph
[20:23:17] <Bytram> payload fairing jettison
[20:23:35] <Bytram> ECo in approx 1 min
[20:24:00] <Bytram> Rd180 constant 3.6G limit
[20:24:07] <Bytram> sorry Rd180 constant 4.6G limit
[20:24:29] <Bytram> booster engine cutoff
[20:24:35] <Bytram> good separation of centaur
[20:24:43] <Bytram> RL-10 ignition
[20:25:05] <Bytram> 500th production RL-10 engine
[20:27:13] <Bytram> prerecorded blurb about first space force launch
[20:27:33] <Bytram> mission essential, so launch goes on in spite of covid-19
[20:28:08] <Bytram> AEHF-6 satellite
[20:29:29] <Bytram> 83rd ATLAS-V launch
[20:31:55] <Bytram> Approching MECO-1
[20:31:59] <Bytram> done
[20:34:20] <Bytram> updating story
[20:37:49] <Bytram> signing off from launch stream
[20:53:06] <Bytram> =submit https://www.rutgers.edu
[21:05:35] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[21:05:36] <systemd> ^ 03Foods you can freeze besides meat and produce ( https://www.cnet.com )
[22:26:57] <Bytram> =cite https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com
[22:28:33] <Bytram> =cite https://www.fv-berlin.de
[22:28:34] <systemd> Journal Reference Bats depend on conspecifics when hunting above farmland, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/"></a>)
[22:28:35] <exec> └─ 13Forschungsverbund Berlin e.V. - News
[23:03:37] <Bytram> whereto? https://go.theregister.co.uk
[23:03:38] <systemd> ^ 03Microsoft staff giggle beneath the weight of a 52,000-person Reply-All email storm ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:03:39] <exec> └─ 13Microsoft staff giggle beneath the weight of a 52,000-person Reply-All email storm • The Register
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[23:35:53] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[23:35:54] <systemd> ^ 03In ERs overwhelmed by COVID-19, here’s who might get treated ( https://arstechnica.com )
[23:35:55] <exec> └─ 13In ERs overwhelmed by COVID-19, here’s who might get treated—and who might not | Ars Technica
[23:36:04] <Bytram> https://www.aljazeera.com
[23:36:05] <systemd> ^ 03Coronavirus: Six heartening stories you may have missed
[23:36:06] <exec> └─ 13Coronavirus: Six heartening stories you may have missed | News | Al Jazeera