#editorial | Logs for 2020-02-29
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[01:12:37] <Bytram> =g Ludwigsburg
[01:12:38] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Ludwigsburg - Wikipedia
[01:18:53] <carny> =submit from better-reporting-from-disinterested-parties dept. https://www.aljazeera.com
[01:18:55] <exec> └─ 13Coronavirus outbreak: All the latest updates | News | Al Jazeera
[01:18:55] <systemd> Submitting "Coronavirus outbreak: All the latest updates"...
[01:19:17] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Coronavirus Outbreak: All the Latest Updates" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:22:47] <Bytram> ~tell mrpg Thanks for the bug report! So sorry that I just missed you, too. Good to see you stopping by -- here's wishing you the very best!
[01:22:53] <Bytram> https://player.vimeo.com
[01:22:54] <systemd> ^ 03Porsche tests autonomous vehicles in the workshop from UKi Media & Events on Vimeo
[01:22:56] <exec> └─ 13Porsche tests autonomous vehicles in the workshop from UKi Media & Events on Vimeo
[01:27:20] <Fnord666> ~tell Fnord666 This is a test!
[01:27:24] <Fnord666> hi
[01:32:16] <Bytram> ~tell Fnord666 when the bot senses some activity on your part in the channel, it should then send you this text as a private message. =)
[01:32:44] <Fnord666> does it? :)
[01:32:46] * Bytram 2nds dyson death
[01:33:02] <Bytram> I dunno; you tell me! ;)
[01:33:12] * Bytram cannot see PMs sent to you.
[01:33:15] <Fnord666> ~tell Bytram yes it does!
[01:33:33] * Bytram is not going to fall for that one
[01:33:45] <Bytram> ;)
[01:34:14] <Bytram> Fnord666: How are you? I see you pushed out a bunch of stories this evening -- many thanks!
[01:35:22] <Fnord666> Doing well and it's the weekend, so....
[01:35:30] <Fnord666> Yourself?
[01:35:53] <Bytram> Hrmmm, didn't dyson come up with that vacuum cleaner?
[01:36:24] <Fnord666> Is that a serious question?
[01:36:27] <Bytram> been slowly catching up on a bunch of things. Feels good!
[01:36:30] <Bytram> brb
[01:36:34] <Fnord666> Different Dyson
[01:37:15] <Bytram> Oh, that's right... he's the head of that chicken empire, right? Dyson's Chicken.
[01:38:09] <Fnord666> That's him
[01:38:22] <Bytram> There's got to be at least a... nugget... of truth to that, right?
[01:38:39] <Fnord666> That's how he tests his fans for bird strikes. Dyson Chicken guns
[01:38:47] <Bytram> Good to know^W gnaw
[01:38:54] <Fnord666> Now you're pulling my drumstick
[01:39:16] <Bytram> Are you gonna shoot it? Not me, I'm too... chicken!
[01:39:39] <Fnord666> Does it have instructions? No? Ok we'll wing it
[01:40:02] <Fnord666> It's all for the breast anyway.
[01:40:05] <Bytram> gack!
[01:41:09] <Bytram> Question? I thought I included some background on Lewis Carol on the Google Doodle submission... or did I accidentallyt leave taht out?
[01:41:12] <Bytram> brb
[01:41:43] <chromas> s/D/T/ for chicken
[01:42:53] <Bytram> =g tyson's corner
[01:42:54] <systemd> https://www.tysonscornercenter.com - Tysons Corner Center | Home
[01:42:56] <Fnord666> Bytram - I wasn't sure why there was a wikipedia link to Lewis Carroll in a submission about someone else
[01:44:34] <Bytram> the doole commenorates the illustrator who penned rthe picture's for lewis carol's Alice in wonderland -- wanted to give it a bit of a STEM flavor, because I suspected most people were not aware of his math pedigree.
[01:44:53] <Fnord666> Do you want me to add the Lewis Carroll info back in? I didn't feel like it really added to the story about John Tenniel
[01:45:41] <Bytram> nah, I wasn't entirely sure about it, myself. Is why we don't generally approve our own story submissions -- good to get another's perspective!
[01:46:06] * Bytram seconds kids reding books
[01:47:47] <Fnord666> I wanted to keep the focus on the illustrator.
[01:48:06] * Bytram gets the picture
[01:48:18] <Fnord666> :)
[01:48:39] <Fnord666> I'll not draw this out then
[01:48:59] * Bytram gets pen-sive
[01:50:31] <Bytram> =g broadsheet
[01:50:32] <systemd> https://www.broadsheet.com.au - Broadsheet - Broadsheet
[01:50:39] <Bytram> =g broadsheet wiki
[01:50:40] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Broadsheet - Wikipedia
[01:50:55] <Fnord666> Folio'ed again
[01:51:36] <Bytram> Somehow, I had an inkling you'd say something like that.
[01:52:38] <Fnord666> I had to canvas my brain for something
[01:53:52] <Bytram> Huh! The broadsheet has since emerged as the most popular format for the dissemination of printed news. The world's most widely circulated English-language daily broadsheet is The Times of India, a leading English-language daily newspaper from India, followed closely by Wall Street Journal from the United States, according to the Audit Bureau of Circulations.
[01:54:14] <Fnord666> That graphic comparing newspaper sizes is a bit.....busy
[01:54:14] <Bytram> #smake wikipedia
[01:54:14] * MrPlow smakes wikipedia upside the head with donkey punch
[01:54:50] <Bytram> the name of the newspaper is "The Wall Street Journal" -- *four* words!
[01:55:16] <Fnord666> Like "The" Times of India?
[01:55:39] <Fnord666> Just just sit there, edit that sucker!
[01:56:00] <Bytram> =g times of india
[01:56:01] <systemd> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com - Times of India
[01:56:05] <Bytram> =t WSJ
[01:56:11] <Bytram> =g WSJ
[01:56:12] <systemd> https://www.wsj.com - The Wall Street Journal & Breaking News, Business, Financial and ...
[01:57:38] <Fnord666> The get it right elsewhere in the article
[01:57:44] <Bytram> good catch! Both of them consider the word "The" to be part of their names.
[02:03:13] <Bytram> Fnord666++
[02:03:13] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 133
[02:04:57] <chromas> https://twsj.com
[02:05:15] <chromas> Their initialism disagrees
[02:06:27] <Bytram> https://twsj.com
[02:06:37] <Bytram> No titles?
[02:06:43] <chromas> no site
[02:07:11] <Fnord666> No site is rite
[02:07:28] <Bytram> No cite is write?
[02:07:43] <chromas> Sightation kneeded
[02:07:47] <Fnord666> No sight is wight?
[02:08:13] * Fnord666 sighs
[02:08:43] <Fnord666> If citation is to cite something, what is dictation?
[02:08:46] <Bytram> No site is quite right?
[02:09:14] <chromas> Lemme turn off safe search and find out
[02:09:16] <Bytram> to dice somethng?
[02:09:37] <Fnord666> And if pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?
[02:10:02] <Bytram> digress?
[02:10:14] <Bytram> Ingress?
[02:10:18] <Bytram> regress?
[02:10:59] <Bytram> .
[02:11:02] <Bytram> aggress
[02:11:03] <Bytram> congress
[02:11:03] <Bytram> digress
[02:11:03] <Bytram> disgress
[02:11:03] <Bytram> egress
[02:11:03] <Bytram> ingress
[02:11:05] <Bytram> negress
[02:11:07] <Bytram> ogress
[02:11:09] <Bytram> pretergress
[02:11:11] <Bytram> progress
[02:11:13] <Bytram> regress
[02:11:17] <Bytram> reingress
[02:11:19] <Bytram> retrogress
[02:11:21] <Bytram> tigress
[02:11:23] <Bytram> transgress
[02:12:15] <Bytram> .
[02:12:17] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[02:12:20] <systemd> ^ 03Forget Leap Day, there's a serious plan to replace it with an extra week every few years ( https://www.cnet.com )
[02:13:13] <Bytram> Meet me on the 35th of February???
[02:13:14] <Fnord666> Well that would be interesting....
[02:13:40] <Fnord666> So every 28 years?
[02:13:59] <Fnord666> Birthdays would be a bit of a complication
[02:14:02] <chromas> We should just speed up the earth's rotation
[02:14:22] <Bytram> Suddenly, the shortest month on the calendar could, on rare occasion, become the longest month, too.
[02:14:30] <Fnord666> Just a nudge?
[02:14:56] <Bytram> =g asrisotle lever fulcrum
[02:14:57] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Lever - Wikipedia
[02:15:01] <Fnord666> I wonder how much delta-V would be needed
[02:15:08] <Bytram> =g asrisotle give me a lever fulcrum
[02:15:09] <systemd> https://www.brainyquote.com - Archimedes - Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on...
[02:15:57] <Fnord666> I guess in reality we would need to slow the orbit just a tiny bit
[02:16:26] <Fnord666> Orbital mechanics are NOT my strong suit
[02:16:54] <Bytram> that would bring our orbit closer in to the sun... Global Warming
[02:17:00] <Fnord666> I think that would nudge the orbit outward a bit?
[02:17:42] <Fnord666> Or put us in a death spiral into the sun. Whoops
[02:17:51] <Bytram> slower speed in orbit causes the item to move inward -- like a figure skater doing a spin
[02:18:00] <chromas> Nudge it until the orbit and rotation align for proper metric time
[02:18:05] <Bytram> IIUC!!
[02:18:46] <chromas> The figure skater would spin faster when moving N word
[02:18:47] <Fnord666> Figure skaters have a faster rotation when they are in tighter
[02:19:37] <Fnord666> Further in requires more centripetal force to balance which requires more V
[02:19:42] <Fnord666> IIUC
[02:20:00] <Fnord666> Further in = more gravitational pull
[02:20:42] <Bytram> cause vs effect
[02:20:47] <Bytram> ??
[02:21:09] <Fnord666> That's why it's called rocket science
[02:21:37] <Bytram> it is too late, and it's too close to my bedtime try and sort that one out.
[02:22:00] <Fnord666> Agreed. For me, even if it was 9 in the morning!
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[02:23:24] <Fnord666> although to make the year a bit shorter we would need to speed up the earth resulting in a closer orbit so yeah, climate change and global warming all over again
[02:23:52] <chromas> Whatever. As long as the calendar lines up nicely
[02:24:03] <Fnord666> Exactly. No more leap anything
[02:24:14] <chromas> Just leap weather
[02:24:31] <Fnord666> zactly
[02:29:26] <Bytram> time for me to hit the hat
[02:29:37] <Bytram> time for me to hit the hay
[02:29:53] <chromas> Free hat!
[02:29:59] <Bytram> haaaave a fgreat hight everybofy@
[02:30:03] <Fnord666> ~gnight Bytram
[02:30:05] * exec unjustifiably steals a teaspoon of dag from Bytram
[02:30:28] <Fnord666> Good night Bytram. Pleasant dreams
[02:43:27] <AzumaHazuki> holy shit i just got my ptce score
[02:43:30] <AzumaHazuki> a perfect 1600 o_O
[02:46:07] <Bytram> hibernamrB
[02:46:07] <Bytram> De,
[02:46:58] <Bytram> AzumaHazuk++: Woo Hoo!!
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[13:59:10] <janrinok> ~tell AzumaHazuki Congratulations on your achievement - we knew you could do it! I hope that you are pleased that your efforts have been recognised and rewarded.
[14:13:21] <janrinok> Bytram, you asked for suggestions for text for people submitting video links - "Submissions must be based upon written material, either linking to the source or be the submitter's original material. We are unable to accept submissions based on video reporting, particularly YouTube or similar videos. We are unable to verify the accuracy of YouTube material nor have the editors the time to watch a video to decide if the material is
[14:13:22] <janrinok> suitable for use. Video links may be used as additional reference material in exceptional circumstances. The content of video links must comply with the usual Submissions Guidelines as closely as possible."
[14:14:25] <Bytram> janrinok++
[14:14:25] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 81
[14:16:18] <Bytram> very very good, but I sense a slight awkwardness around "We are unable to verify the accuracy of YouTube material nor have the editors the time to watch a video to decide" ... maybe "nor do the editors have the time" or something like that?
[14:16:41] <janrinok> exactly - typing faster than I was thinking! again!
[14:19:16] <janrinok> great news from Az!
[14:56:14] <Bytram> Indeed!
[15:03:00] <Bytram> Heh! Something had been nagging at me for a while and only came clear when I saw you mention "Az"! Are you at all familiar with books by Robert Asprin? Specifically his https://en.wikipedia.org series? One of the main characters in the series is named "Aahz". I'll confess that there are so many bad puns in them (are there any other kind of pun?), that I got hooked and read all of them!
[15:03:00] <systemd> ^ 03MythAdventures - Wikipedia
[15:03:01] <exec> └─ 13MythAdventures - Wikipedia
[15:19:36] <Bytram> I'd put them on par with watching a summertime movie where one is not looking for deep character development or insights into the human condition.
[16:14:56] <janrinok> not an author I know at all, but there again I haven't read fiction for a very long time now - probably 15-20 years
[16:37:16] <Bytram> Was probably that long ago when I first read them! Definitely a light read -- perfect for eating up the time on a 6 hour flight!
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[19:02:46] <janrinok> ~eds If anybody has a few minutes time I would appreciate a 2nd ed of the COVID-19 Roundup story.
[19:02:47] <exec> editor ping for janrinok (reason: if anybody has a few minutes time i would appreciate a 2nd ed of the covid-19 roundup story.): janrinok n1 nick Bytram cmn32480 coolhand takyon Fnord666 FatPhil mrpg chromas fyngyrz spiraldancing
[19:18:52] * janrinok thinks that the COVID-19 Roundup might only be one story release, but that is his contribution until Monday!
[19:33:28] <chromas> Looks okay to me. There's room for a comma and some of it could be put into the extended section
[19:34:36] <chromas> Looks like Fnord666's checking it out. He's putting more effort into it than I did :)
[19:34:59] <Fnord666> Yep, taking a look now
[19:35:12] <Fnord666> Definitely going to split it into extended section
[19:38:15] <Fnord666> And pull all the "original submission"s into one section at the bottom.
[19:38:40] <Fnord666> I need to track down the last one as well and clean up some typos in some of the original submitter's text
[19:48:38] <Fnord666> janrinok, any attribution for the section "Three More People Test Positive in England"?
[19:59:41] <Fnord666> OK, I've updated and seconded it. If someone would double check I would appreciate it
[20:00:55] <Fnord666> I did not find a link for the original submission for the 5th item in the collection, titled "Three More People Test Positive in England". The linked story is good so I kept it.
[20:01:57] * Bytram pokes his nose into the channel
[20:02:16] <Bytram> =g "Three More People Test Positive in England"
[20:02:17] <systemd> https://www.bbc.com - Coronavirus: Three more people test positive in England - BBC News
[20:02:24] <Bytram> #g "Three More People Test Positive in England"
[20:02:25] <MrPlow> https://www.bbc.co.uk - "5 hours ago ... Three more people from England have tested positive for coronavirus, taking the total number of UK cases to 23. Two of the patients had ..."
[20:03:47] <Bytram> Oh... you were looking for the *original* story submission! Doh!
[20:03:50] <Bytram> brb
[20:06:13] <Fnord666> np
[20:07:03] * Bytram is looking for the date of the last roundup story so I know how far back to look
[20:07:52] <Bytram> these seem to be the ones we have posted so far:
[20:08:02] <Fnord666> well the abc story is only 5 hours old so...
[20:08:03] <Bytram> PASTE_BEGIN
[20:08:05] <Bytram> <a href="https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/02/26/007248">Roundup of Stories about the SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus and COVID-19 Disease</a><br>
[20:08:05] <Bytram> <a href="https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/02/17/1953245">Coronavirus Roundup (Feb. 17)</a><br>
[20:08:05] <Bytram> <a href="https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/02/11/0518248">Coronavirus Roundup</a><br>
[20:08:05] <Bytram> <a href="https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/02/07/1032213">Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Roundup</a><br>
[20:08:06] <Bytram> <a href="https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/02/01/0144226">2019-nCoV Coronavirus Story Roundup</a><br>
[20:08:10] <exec> └─ 13Error
[20:08:10] <exec> └─ 13Error
[20:08:10] <exec> └─ 13Error
[20:08:10] <exec> └─ 13Error
[20:08:10] <exec> └─ 13Error
[20:08:11] <Bytram> PASTE_END
[20:08:25] <Fnord666> BBC story that is
[20:09:02] <Fnord666> So a submission within the last 5 hours?
[20:09:31] <Bytram> just a momeny
[20:09:47] <Fnord666> I do not know how to see "all" submission though
[20:09:57] * Bytram does =)
[20:10:32] * Bytram notes I cannot do it directly, but I can iterate through stody IDs
[20:10:36] * Bytram notes I cannot do it directly, but I can iterate through story IDs
[20:11:41] <Bytram> looks like I should start around 39365
[20:12:43] <Bytram> okay... story submissions 39365 through about 39455
[20:13:04] <Bytram> btw, two new corona virus submissions just recently appeared
[20:13:10] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[20:13:11] <systemd> ^ 03Government's Mixed Messages On Coronavirus Are Dangerous: Experts: SoylentNews Submission
[20:13:12] <Bytram> and
[20:13:13] <exec> └─ 13Government's Mixed Messages On Coronavirus Are Dangerous: Experts: SoylentNews Submission
[20:13:20] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[20:13:20] <systemd> ^ 03Two confirmed cases of Corona virus in Washington state: SoylentNews Submission
[20:13:21] <exec> └─ 13Two confirmed cases of Corona virus in Washington state: SoylentNews Submission
[20:14:08] <Fnord666> Both are in the composite report
[20:14:18] <Bytram> Oh? Great!
[20:14:41] * Bytram is downloading all the subs in the above-mentioned range =)
[20:15:05] <Bytram> almost done
[20:15:23] <Fnord666> There are what appear to be 6 separate stories in the composite but I can only find story submissions for 5
[20:18:34] <Bytram> Not having any luck, yet.
[20:19:50] <Bytram> Here is a search for "virus" in story "Submissions" with the most recent matches listed first: https://soylentnews.org
[20:19:51] <systemd> ^ 03Search 'virus'
[20:19:53] <exec> └─ 13Search 'virus'
[20:20:50] <Bytram> let's try searching for "Surrey"
[20:21:35] <Bytram> and... no match, there, either. :(
[20:22:29] <Bytram> ditto for "Gloucestershire"
[20:23:32] * Bytram is starting to wonder if someone just added the text directly into the roundup story rather than going through a submission?
[20:25:10] <Bytram> Ya know... there is a simple solution to this...
[20:25:33] <Bytram> =submit https://www.bbc.com
[20:25:37] <exec> └─ 13Coronavirus: Three more people test positive in England - BBC News
[20:25:37] <systemd> Submitting "Three more cases of coronavirus in England"...
[20:25:54] <Fnord666> lol. I was just thinking the same thing
[20:25:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Three More Cases of Coronavirus in England" (38 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:26:04] <Bytram> ta dah!
[20:26:13] <Fnord666> Ok I'll link it in
[20:26:34] <Bytram> go ahead... let me get out of the story
[20:26:52] <Bytram> all yours!
[20:26:57] <Bytram> hth!
[20:27:16] <Bytram> back in about 15-30 minutes
[20:29:15] <Fnord666> And done!
[20:42:18] <Fnord666> Back later. Gotta run a few errands