#editorial | Logs for 2019-09-19

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[00:22:51] <Fnord666> Evening Bytram!
[00:24:40] <Bytram> Fnord666: Evening!!
[00:25:16] <Fnord666> How's it going this evening?
[00:26:45] <Bytram> Doing better after getting most of a good nights' sleep last night.
[00:27:29] <Fnord666> That's good
[00:27:51] <Bytram> indeed!
[00:28:21] <Bytram> Have tomorrow off and hope to be able to devote some time to completing my investigation into the missing journal entry
[00:28:30] <Bytram> along with other delayed errands
[00:28:54] <Fnord666> Cool. If you would like any help let me know.
[00:29:18] <Bytram> Your stuffing the story queue is a HUGE help!
[00:29:33] <Fnord666> Although it seems like you've already dotted all the Ts and crossed all the Is
[00:29:54] <Bytram> crossed my eyes? Sounds about right!
[00:30:31] <Bytram> Heads up: looks like upstart has been dropping links from it's story submissions... be sure to check against the original to make sure nothing got left out.
[00:30:52] <Fnord666> got it
[00:30:58] <Fnord666> thanks for the warning
[00:31:29] <Bytram> HTH
[00:33:21] <Bytram> how are you with Perl regexps?
[00:34:36] <Fnord666> fair at best. regexes can be tricky beasts
[00:35:09] <Fnord666> I don't work with them enough in my daily routine to claim better than fair.
[00:36:10] <Bytram> echo foobarbuzz | grep "(this)?foo(that)?bar"
[00:36:16] <Bytram> hmm
[00:38:03] <Bytram> I don't have perl on my windows system, but it seems to match when I use a recent version of gawk to try to match.
[00:41:00] <Bytram> Looks like it works as I had hoped! Yays! Thanks for your help!
[00:41:38] <Fnord666> any time!
[00:42:22] <Fnord666> i like to use cygwin to emulate a unix environment on windows systems
[00:43:28] <Bytram> was just questioning my recollection/understanding of the "?" operator which, IIUC, conditionalizes the need for an item to match. Matches if the "item" it follows appears exactly zero or one times.
[00:45:37] * Bytram uses a veritable stew of GNU utils downloaded from various sites on the web. I tried cygwin years ago and it so botched up my system it took me the better part of the week to clean it up, including much registry cleaning. I'm sure that is an aberration, because many people do use it, but once bitten, twice shy.
[00:47:57] <Fnord666> understandable.
[00:48:12] <Fnord666> I have the same aversion to system optimizers.
[00:48:29] <Fnord666> had one make a system unbootable on the second day of vacation once.
[00:48:40] <Bytram> uh oh.
[00:49:10] <Deucalion> Not tried it but wouldn't WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) be the way to go these days over cygwin?
[00:49:24] <Deucalion> Presuming Win10
[00:49:25] <Bytram> yes, but telemetry
[00:49:40] <Bytram> that's why I am still on win 7 pro x64
[00:50:13] <Deucalion> Virtualbox with a linux install :D
[00:50:45] <Fnord666> All good choices on personal systems. Cygwin is what I can get away with on my work system, so.....
[00:50:56] <Bytram> got a couple Dell Latitude 6410's for a song, but came with no disk drive; need a drive cover and plan to install a ~512 GB SSD. When that is done, I can have a genuine (TM) Linux install on its own box.
[00:51:32] <Bytram> brb, food is ready.
[00:51:37] <Fnord666> k
[00:52:50] <Deucalion> Ahh but to get that point you have to decide "what distribution" - ask 10 people you'll get 10 answers :D
[00:53:21] <Bytram> well, then I can just flip a coin if it is only two people! ;)
[00:53:39] <Bytram> binary++
[00:53:39] <Bender> karma - binary: 1
[00:53:45] <Bytram> brb
[00:54:57] <Deucalion> If you have a dedicated machine to play around on then experimentation is easy - unless you have usage caps for all the downloads
[00:56:57] <Bytram> ding ding ding.. 25 GB/mo
[00:57:15] <Fnord666> The nice thing is you can test drive distributions with bootable iso files before committing to an installation.
[00:57:29] <Fnord666> meh, that's what Starbucks is for...
[00:58:21] <Bytram> but I need to have a drive, and an OS to boot from.
[00:58:21] <Bytram> chicken meets the egg
[00:58:43] <Bytram> Am debating between Ubuntu and Gentoo, since that is what we are running around here.
[00:59:14] <Bytram> prolly start with Ubuntu
[01:01:34] <Bytram> https://github.com
[01:01:35] <upstart> ^ 03memcached/memcached
[01:01:36] <exec> └─ 13ReleaseNotes1518 · memcached/memcached Wiki · GitHub
[01:04:45] <Fnord666> I'm running Ubuntu on the machine I'm using right now
[01:06:28] <Fnord666> actually it's Linux Mint which is an ubuntu variant
[01:06:40] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:06:52] <Bytram> which, in turn, is a BSD variant, IIUC
[01:15:19] <Deucalion> Mint is an Ubuntu derivative which is a Debian derivative. No BSD. Mint is my desktop distro of choice - Cinnamon DE usually, MATE on one poorly old limp along laptop.
[01:16:34] <Fnord666> Running Cinnamon on this one
[01:16:37] <Bytram> Gack! I *meant* Debian, but type BSD. Guess I did not catch up as much on my sleep as I thought I did.
[01:17:03] <Fnord666> lol
[01:17:23] <Deucalion> It's in the Debian tree yes, so hello apt
[01:18:14] <Deucalion> And hello bits and pieces of systemd...
[01:18:29] <Fnord666> first rule of systemd ....
[01:18:53] <Fnord666> first rule of systemd ....1
[01:19:06] <Fnord666> Don't talk about systemd
[01:19:19] <Deucalion> I have nothing to say about it
[01:19:32] <Fnord666> The keyboard on this laptop however makes me want to drop the whole machine out a high window
[01:19:53] <Bytram> get a USB kbd and plug it in, instead.
[01:19:55] <Bytram> ??
[01:20:08] <Deucalion> Or sell it and get something else
[01:20:39] <Deucalion> Oh wait... it's a laptop... of course the keyboard is sub-optimal...
[01:20:48] <Fnord666> :)
[01:21:18] <Fnord666> it's not just the feel but the placement. It's just off in ways that makes me not find the home keys
[01:21:27] <Bytram> LOL!
[01:21:35] <Bytram> there's no place like home [key]
[01:21:43] <Fnord666> :)
[01:21:54] <Deucalion> mp djot!
[01:22:54] <Fnord666> I'm assuming that's a dvorak home row?
[01:24:31] <Bytram> read of it often, never tried it. too much muscle memory by now.
[01:24:36] <Bytram> brb dishes
[01:25:26] <Deucalion> Fnord666, I was off my home keys by one
[01:32:22] <Fnord666> not bad though
[01:33:09] <Fnord666> do you a dvorak layout regularly?
[01:33:23] <Fnord666> s/you a/you use a/
[01:33:26] <exec> <Fnord666> do you use a dvorak layout regularly?
[01:33:47] <chromas> or s/ a//
[01:34:01] <Fnord666> :)
[01:58:13] <Bytram> chromas: I'm noticing a pattern of upstart failing to include links from the referenced article
[01:58:31] <Bytram> see above, and take a look at: https://soylentnews.org
[01:58:32] <upstart> ^ 03Moog Brings Back its Legendary Model 10 'compact' Modular Synth: SoylentNews Submission
[01:58:33] <exec> └─ 13Moog Brings Back its Legendary Model 10 'compact' Modular Synth: SoylentNews Submission
[02:12:32] <chromas> Not sure what the deal is. My news feed also has empty links
[02:12:44] <chromas> missing the hrefs
[02:13:03] <chromas> (it uses the bot code to fetch article)
[02:16:31] <Bytram> Not sure if I am following you correctly, but is there any way to use your bot to get the canonical version of the comment's URL, and retrieve that, instead?
[02:16:56] <Bytram> with that, time for me to get some slep
[02:18:11] <chromas> the bot is stripping out the hrefs for some reason, so it just does <a>text</a>
[02:18:22] <chromas> and rehash is probably stripping that out since it's useless
[02:20:26] <Bytram> Are there *any* element attributes that it passes through into the resulting article.
[02:20:43] <chromas> not supposed to be
[02:20:45] <chromas> aside from href
[02:20:52] <chromas> not sure why it quit letting them through
[02:22:20] <Bytram> might help to find out WHEN it started doing that.
[02:22:59] <Bytram> anyway, is way past my bewitching hour so am heading off to bed.
[02:23:06] <Bytram> have a great night everybody!!!
[02:24:03] <Fnord666> good night Bytram!
[04:09:18] <chromas> Looks like I commented out part of the link code and that's what broke it
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[04:23:05] <chromas> tha's better
[12:36:52] <Bytram> chromas++ Thanks for the quick fix! Much appreciated!
[12:36:52] <Bender> karma - chromas: 93
[12:37:55] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[12:37:57] <upstart> ^ 03Microsoft Rushes to Fix Bug That Broke Windows Defender Scans ( https://www.securityweek.com )
[12:37:58] <exec> └─ 13Microsoft Rushes to Fix Bug That Broke Windows Defender Scans | SecurityWeek.Com
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[23:48:35] <Bytram> =g occam's razor
[23:48:50] <Bytram> #g occam's razor
[23:48:51] <MrPlow> https://simple.wikipedia.org - "Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor) is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exists two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the one that requires the ..."