#editorial | Logs for 2019-07-28
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[00:16:12] <RandomFactor> hmmm, new poll. Pondering.
[00:25:45] <chromas> Maybe we should swith from polls to interrupts
[00:26:26] <RandomFactor> edgy
[00:30:13] <chromas> microsoft edgy
[00:30:53] <RandomFactor> Number of submissions: What's a submiision? Do rejected ones count? More then some, less than others. I'm more of a dom. I'm Aristarchus you insensitive clod!
[00:32:47] <chromas> Works for me
[00:34:05] <RandomFactor> could actually work with a bit of tweaking
[00:34:51] <chromas> I'm Aristarchus, you alt-right clod!
[00:34:57] <RandomFactor> Nice tweak
[00:35:39] <RandomFactor> ok, i can breath again
[00:39:48] <RandomFactor> !grab chomas
[00:39:48] <Bender> I don't know what chomas said, so I can't quote them!
[00:39:55] <RandomFactor> awww man
[00:40:03] <RandomFactor> !grab chromas
[00:40:03] <Bender> Added quote 81
[00:40:06] <RandomFactor> there we go
[00:40:42] <RandomFactor> !quote 81
[00:40:43] <Bender> Quote 81 - <chromas> I'm Aristarchus, you alt-right clod!
[00:42:51] <Fnord666> lol
[01:05:06] <Fnord666> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[01:05:08] <systemd-blockchaind> Submitting "FAA Reportedly Delegated Oversight of Critical 737 Max Flight System to Boeing"...
[01:05:30] <systemd-blockchaind> ✓ Sub-ccess! "FAA Reportedly Delegated Oversight of Critical 737 Max Flight System to Boeing" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:05:33] <exec> └─ 13FAA Reportedly Delegated Oversight of Critical 737 Max Flight System to Boeing: SoylentNews Submission
[01:21:58] <Bytram> Fnord666: !!
[01:22:17] <Fnord666> bytram!!
[01:35:39] <Bytram> Fnord666: sorry, got called away. How ya be?
[01:36:00] <Fnord666> good good. Yourself.
[01:36:41] <Fnord666> yourself?
[01:36:55] <Bytram> been tired a lot lately; methinks it is just the warmer weather and the allergies which have only mildly abated since march
[01:37:27] <Bytram> That, and burning the candle at both ends. =)
[01:38:00] <Bytram> #g lyrics life's been good to me so far
[01:38:01] <MrPlow> https://www.azlyrics.com - "They say I'm crazy but I have a good time. I'm just looking for clues at the scene of the crime. Life's been good to me so far. My Maserati does one-eighty-five"
[01:38:34] <Bytram> That's the one! *Love* the deadpan delivery in that song!
[01:38:43] <Fnord666> me too.
[01:39:27] * Bytram is jealous, too. Only got up to 145 in a Porsche on the Autobahn
[01:41:38] <Fnord666> Sounds like fun
[01:41:43] <Bytram> well, it was 235 kph, traffic was building as I was approaching Bonn at 4ish and traffic was starting to get heavier. All I needed was for someone to pull out from behind a semi limited to 80 kph (~50 mph) to create some very rapid excitement. Though there was pedal left (still accelerating) figured that was good enough.
[01:41:57] <Fnord666> https://jalopnik.com
[01:41:59] <systemd-blockchaind> ^ 03Entitled Tesla Jackass Parks on Stranger's Lawn, Steals Electricity for 12 Hours
[01:42:36] <chromas> Put coin-operated outlets on the outside of your house
[01:43:32] <Fnord666> It's the parking in the guys yard and not even offering an apology or compensation when they came back the next day that really turns the corner on this story
[01:45:08] <Bytram> And where did they go after they plugged in the car? Walk home? Call a Lyft?
[01:45:34] <chromas> Does he keep an extension cord in his car?
[01:45:36] <Fnord666> Friend's house that they were coming to visit when they founds themsleves out of charge, according to the story
[01:46:01] <Fnord666> no extension cord, thus the need to park in the guys yard
[01:46:09] * Bytram has a nagging thought that they might have had a few drinks in 'em and "it seemed like a good idea at the time", but certainly would not tell *that* to the police.
[01:46:39] <Fnord666> and of course it was in Florida
[01:46:46] <chromas> I thought cars used different plugs
[01:47:15] <Bytram> Fnord666: I don't see that the homeowner was a (previously known) friend
[01:47:34] <Fnord666> they normally do at home for faster charging, but they can charge off of normal 15A 110V house circuits.
[01:47:46] <Bytram> yep
[01:48:03] <Fnord666> Bytram the friend's house was somewhere else nearby.
[01:48:32] <Bytram> oh! "The jerks who owned the Tesla said they were visiting a friend when they realized they were out of power, and offered no compensation or apologies, according to a Facebook post left by Fraumeni’s wife."
[01:49:04] <Fnord666> The jerks who owned the Tesla said they were visiting a friend when they realized they were out of power, and offered no compensation or apologies, according to a Facebook post left by Fraumeni’s wife.
[01:49:10] <Fnord666> ninja'd
[01:49:15] <Bytram> you are right; thanks for the correction.
[01:50:02] <Fnord666> And apparently their friend doesn't have an outlet????
[01:50:22] <Bytram> Fnord666++ Many thanks for the stories you pushed out this evening. would like to see if we can get a few more stories in the hopper...
[01:50:22] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 85
[01:50:35] <Bytram> or, ran completely empty and had no choice?
[01:50:44] <Fnord666> I'm planning on pushing a few more in a bit
[01:51:28] <Fnord666> Well that's just really shitty planning then.
[01:51:30] <Bytram> So I take it things are back to "normal-ish" for you after the "fun" you had earlier in the year.
[01:51:42] <Bytram> certainly
[01:51:53] <Fnord666> Pretty much, yes. Doing well for now.
[01:52:13] <Fnord666> Had to make a few lifestyle changes, but for the better in the long run anyhow
[01:52:19] * Bytram can't type worth a darn tonight.
[01:52:35] <Bytram> so good to hear things are better!
[01:52:54] <Fnord666> How about yourself? Doing ok?
[01:53:13] <Bytram> Ashleigh Brilliant: "I try to take things one day at a time, but sometimes several days gang up at once."
[01:53:20] <Fnord666> LOL
[01:53:24] <Fnord666> so true
[01:53:53] <Bytram> I'm well. Last week was my first week back after a two-week vacation...
[01:54:11] <Fnord666> Do anything fun and/or relaxing?
[01:54:24] <Bytram> normally only allowed one week at a time, but made a special pleading to my manager and she was able to get it to go through
[01:55:10] <Bytram> more of a staycation.... saw a couple movies, ate out a few times, took a bunch of naps, posted lots of stories, pretty much tried to take things as they came
[01:56:02] <Fnord666> That reminds me. 8/8 through 8/13 I will on vacation traveling to Colorado for a wedding, then some sightseeing.
[01:56:15] <Bytram> ever been there before?
[01:56:31] <Fnord666> I have not
[01:56:37] <Bytram> the thinner air at that altitude is no joke.
[01:56:50] <Bytram> give yourself plenty of time to acclimate and to do anything.
[01:57:13] <Fnord666> Been west coast and a lot of east of the mississippi river
[01:58:17] <Fnord666> I will be pretty much unavailable 9/1 to 9/8 though. Taking a cruise up to Alaska with the mrs. for our 30th wedding anniversary
[01:58:44] <Bytram> I spent the better part of a summer into fall in San Jose on business; jaunt up to Oregon for a one day business trip; flight layover in Denver, then most else was long the east coast: Florida, NC, DC area, and the northeast.
[01:58:53] <Bytram> congratulations!
[01:59:09] <Fnord666> thx
[01:59:29] <Bytram> takes a lot of work and compromise
[01:59:55] <Fnord666> I was stationed at Ft. Lewis in Tacoma a few years back (ok more than a few) and spent sometime going up and down the coast on off days.
[02:00:08] <Fnord666> and yes it does.
[02:00:34] <Bytram> Oh? Well, then. Thanks for your service to the country!
[02:00:49] <Fnord666> thanks.
[02:00:57] <Bytram> No, thank YOU!
[02:01:22] <Fnord666> spent time at FT. Lewis in Washington, Vicenza Italy, Ft. Bragg in NC and Panmunjom in Korea
[02:01:47] <Bytram> ever try the kimchi?
[02:02:19] <Bytram> Was far too "aromatic" for me to ever give it a try when it was available at a restaurant I used to frequent with some friends.
[02:02:20] <Fnord666> Loved homemade kinchi, didn't care as much for commercially made.
[02:02:42] <Fnord666> Still do love it actually when I can find good stuff
[02:02:59] <Bytram> One of our group called it "garbage" and from what I could tell from the smell, that seemed like an apt description.
[02:03:32] <Fnord666> no more so than Sauerkraut or any other pickled cabbage really
[02:03:58] <Fnord666> just some different ingredients to spice up the flavor
[02:04:18] <Bytram> Then again, over a matter of a year or two, I went from wonton soup, spring rolls, chicken lo mein to hot-and-sour soup and various dishes "extra spicy" and asked for some hot oil, too.
[02:04:46] <Bytram> Just could not get over the smeel and the texture.
[02:05:05] <Fnord666> I'm the same way with brussel sprouts
[02:05:14] <Bytram> kicked in my gag reflex when I saw something that looked like a head of lettuce that had been forgotten in the fridge for a couple weeks.
[02:05:25] <Bytram> blegh!
[02:05:29] <Bytram> BrusselSprouts--
[02:05:29] <Bender> karma - brusselsprouts: -1
[02:05:33] <Fnord666> ok, it does indeed look a bit like that
[02:07:44] <Bytram> That said, give me a medium or medium-well filet mignon with a couple baked potatos and some fresh peas+carrots and NOW we are talking!
[02:08:11] <Bytram> and now I am hungry, too!
[02:08:28] * Bytram wanders off to make a sammich or something
[02:08:29] <Bytram> biab
[02:09:19] <Fnord666> definitely
[02:13:33] <chromas> science_daily--
[02:13:33] <Bender> karma - science_daily: -1
[02:13:42] <Bytram> back
[02:13:49] <Bytram> chromas: huh?
[02:14:26] <chromas> Trying to get the bot to include lede paragraphs on sciencedaily because they put it into a different div
[02:14:32] <chromas> How's the #sammich?
[02:14:41] <chromas> #sammich
[02:14:42] * MrPlow whips up a horse tentacle tofu sammich for chromas
[02:14:43] <Bytram> oh, got it. good, thanks
[02:14:54] <Bytram> #sammich chromas
[02:14:54] * MrPlow sneaks up behind chromas and cuts their throat
[02:14:54] * MrPlow fixes thinly sliced chromas's corpse sammiches for everyone in #editorial
[02:15:03] <Bytram> ewwwww!
[02:15:04] <chromas> Might need to change the way the whole thing works
[02:15:06] <chromas> work--
[02:15:06] <Bender> karma - work: -2
[02:17:10] <chromas> oh there we go. I just had to say something and then I saw my error
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[02:18:30] <chromas> but it includes more junk too
[02:21:35] <chromas> I wonder if I could use a spam filter to rate strings to decide if they're article or junk
[02:22:31] <Bytram> That same paragraph seems to appear multiple times; may want to grab it from someplace else besides the one just before the story?
[02:23:05] <Bytram> given some of the technical lingo, place names, etc. I think it would ALL look like junk at some level.
[02:23:06] <chromas> Which paragraph?
[02:23:22] <Bytram> for example: https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:23:23] <upstart> ^ 03Supervisors driven by bottom line fail to get top performance from employees: 'Bottom-line mentality' can lead to loss of employee respect and loyalty, research shows
[02:23:24] <exec> └─ 13Supervisors driven by bottom line fail to get top performance from employees: 'Bottom-line mentality' can lead to loss of employee respect and loyalty, research shows -- ScienceDaily
[02:23:45] <chromas> Well maybe if I use a deeplearn neural net machine learning algocloud
[02:23:51] <Bytram> lol
[02:24:01] <Bytram> view source and look for "Supervisors driven by profits could actually be hurting their coveted bottom lines by losing the respect of their employees, who counter by withholding performance, according to a new study."
[02:24:34] <chromas> The summary doesn't always match what they call the 'lead'
[02:24:49] <chromas> for example, https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:24:50] <upstart> ^ 03Like film editors and archaeologists, biochemists piece together genome history: Researchers uncover new evidence for the origin of RNA splicing within human genes
[02:24:51] <exec> └─ 13Like film editors and archaeologists, biochemists piece together genome history: Researchers uncover new evidence for the origin of RNA splicing within human genes -- ScienceDaily
[02:25:55] <chromas> It works now but I haven't tested other sites with the new cde
[02:26:08] * chromas used to have a collection of pages to test it on
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[02:27:27] <Bytram> so maybe an ad-hoc search? If domain == "sciencedaily.com" then { locate and store text within: <p id="first" class="lead"> ... </p> }
[02:27:56] <Bytram> then, when outputting the story from the bot, insert the saved text at the top of the body text. maybe??
[02:28:21] <Bytram> back soon; dishes.
[02:28:47] <chromas> Was hoping to keep it generic
[02:29:31] <Fnord666> I know JR's bot has some sort of parse module for each news source and I think a generic approach to any site that isn't in the code
[02:29:33] <Bytram> fully understand and agree with the concept; unfortunately sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do.
[02:30:06] <Fnord666> keeps the article source code isolated to a single place
[02:30:21] <chromas> Yeah, I've thought about a db to put a pattern or something for each site
[02:30:46] <Bytram> it would be ideal if everybody syntactified their stories the exact same way (and Google Chrome was a means to try and induce that, methinks)
[02:32:19] <Fnord666> Too many CMS's out there for that sort of consolidation. Besides everyone wants their stories to be unique
[02:32:20] <Bytram> so, have a general, works 90% of the time parser, with a couple places where additional text can be included: pre-title, post-title, pre-body-text, post-body test... the two middle ones seem to be the same thing.
[02:32:24] <chromas> that's right. make it easier for me to infringe their copyright :D
[02:32:33] <Bytram> poiint.
[02:32:48] <Bytram> anyway; dishes don't do themselves; back laters
[02:34:41] <Bytram> on second thought, I'm suppose to back at work in less than 12 hours; think I'm going to call it a night.
[02:34:49] <Bytram> ~gnight chromas
[02:34:51] * exec unwittingly tosses a finger of loose change to chromas
[02:34:53] <Bytram> ~gnight Fnord666
[02:34:55] * exec cantankerously spews a load of chicken enchiladas w/ chipotle sauce on Fnord666
[02:34:59] <chromas> =g'noight Bytram
[02:34:59] * upstart hideously scissors a speck of whisky for Bytram
[02:35:04] <Fnord666> ~gnight Bytram
[02:35:06] * exec unwillingly deallocates a heap of chocolate sailors from Bytram
[02:35:26] <Bytram> no chocolate for me, oh well!
[02:35:30] <chromas> I think we all know who wins here
[02:35:31] <Fnord666> yum, enchiladas
[02:35:37] <Bytram> yuppers
[02:35:48] <Bytram> chow^W ciao for now!
[02:36:14] <Fnord666> add e o's
[02:36:42] <chromas> enchiladeos
[02:37:04] <chromas> pasta la windows vista
[02:37:58] <chromas> =submit [test] https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:37:59] <upstart> Submitting "Innovative flood mapping helps water and emergency management officials"...
[02:38:00] <exec> └─ 13Innovative flood mapping helps water and emergency management officials -- ScienceDaily
[02:38:21] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Innovative Flood Mapping Helps Water and Emergency Management Officials" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:38:48] <chromas> oh there's a lot more junk than I thought
[03:07:18] <Fnord666> =submit https://news.ku.edu
[03:07:20] <upstart> Submitting "Researcher's innovative floodplain maps help official response"...
[03:07:21] <exec> └─ 13Researcher’s innovative approach to flood mapping supports emergency management and water officials | The University of Kansas
[03:07:42] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Researcher's Innovative Floodplain Maps Help Official Response" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[11:37:33] <Bytram> chromas: janrinok: takyon: Just came upon this and wondered if it might be useful for a bot or something? https://tldr.hackeryogi.com
[11:37:34] <upstart> ^ 03TLDR This - Free automatic text summary tool
[11:37:36] <exec> └─ 13TLDR This - Free automatic text summary tool
[11:38:00] <Bytram> Have not tried; just saw the link come through #rss-bot
[12:25:13] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.nytimes.com
[12:25:14] <upstart> ^ 03Safe Deposit Boxes Aren’t Safe
[12:25:15] <exec> └─ 13Safe Deposit Boxes Aren’t Safe - The New York Times
[12:34:17] <Bytram> Zoinks! That was a eye-opening article!
[12:47:32] <Bytram> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[12:47:34] <exec> └─ 13Safe Deposit Boxes Aren’t Safe - The New York Times
[12:47:34] <upstart> Submitting "Safe Deposit Boxes Aren’t Safe"...
[12:47:56] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Safe Deposit Boxes Aren’t Safe" (41 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:48:26] <RandomFactor> But standup multiwall fireproof safes aren't bad, as long as you aren't around to be 'convinced' to provide the combination.
[12:49:08] <Bytram> given the limited protection given in the article, I would have to agree with you.
[12:51:34] <Bytram> Oy! Where did the time go? Time for me to really get ready for work. Laters!
[12:51:46] <Bytram> have a great day everybody!
[12:52:28] <RandomFactor> I'm starting to think i'm Bytram repellant
[15:26:11] <Carny> =submit from the a-nice-yet-angering-story dept https://www.newscientist.com
[15:26:12] <upstart> Submit failed: No title.
[15:28:02] <Carny> m/article/mg23531420-600-how-crooks-stalled-the-rise-of-electric-cars-for-100-years/
[15:28:11] <Carny> https://www.newscientist.com
[15:56:34] <RandomFactor> It's an annoying link - Continue reading Subscribe now for unlimited access
[15:57:18] <RandomFactor> https://liliec.be
[16:02:36] <Carny> nice
[16:11:52] <RandomFactor> Hmmmm, https://www.nytimes.com
[16:11:54] <upstart> ^ 03Fatal Accident With Metal Straw Highlights a Risk
[16:11:54] <exec> └─ 13Fatal Accident With Metal Straw Highlights a Risk - The New York Times