#editorial | Logs for 2019-07-01
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[01:38:59] <Bytram> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[01:39:01] <upstart> Submitting "Who will wake up from a coma? Electrical jolts in the brain offer hints"...
[01:39:22] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Who Will Wake Up From a Coma? Electrical Jolts in the Brain Offer Hints" (12 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:45:16] <Bytram> =submit https://securepairs.org
[01:45:18] <upstart> Submitting "Microsoft tells FTC Repair poses a Cyber Risk. It doesn’t."...
[01:45:40] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Microsoft Tells FTC Repair Poses a Cyber Risk. It Doesn’t." (32 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:46:12] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[01:46:13] <upstart> Submitting "After decades, Japan courts controversy resuming commercial whaling"...
[01:46:35] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "After Decades, Japan Courts Controversy Resuming Commercial Whaling" (30 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:49:40] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[01:49:42] <upstart> Submitting "After decades, Japan courts controversy resuming commercial whaling"...
[01:50:02] <Bytram> oopps.
[01:50:04] <upstart> Submit failed: rehash thinks it succeeded but it didn't; Blame TMB.
[01:50:12] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[01:50:14] <upstart> Submitting "Giant Beijing airport set to open on eve of China's 70th birthday"...
[01:50:36] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Giant Beijing Airport Set to Open on Eve of China's 70th Birthday" (23 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:54:08] <Bytram> allergies--
[01:54:08] <Bender> karma - allergies: -6
[01:55:10] <Bytram> =gnight editors
[01:55:11] * upstart presumably cracks open a gigabyte of breakfast cake for editors
[01:55:30] <Bytram> that should 'em for a while
[01:55:33] <Bytram> =)
[01:55:39] <Bytram> laters
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[11:53:27] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[11:53:28] <upstart> ^ 03Ducati racer Carlin Dunne dead following Pikes Peak Hill Climb crash - Roadshow ( https://www.cnet.com )
[11:53:29] <exec> └─ 13Ducati racer Carlin Dunne dead following Pikes Peak Hill Climb crash - Roadshow
[14:48:56] <Carny> =submit from the all-security-is-a-disaster dept. https://www.computerworld.com "High-risk vulnerabilities were found in 38 percent of mobile applications for iOS and in 43 percent of Android applications." The usual doom and gloom clickbaity article on how terrible mobile security is, but skip down to the bottom for a nice set of bullet points on different
[14:48:58] <exec> └─ 13Message to IT: Trusting Apple and Google for mobile app security is career suicide | Computerworld
[14:48:59] <upstart> Submitting "Message to IT: Trusting Apple and Google for mobile app security is career suicide"...
[14:49:21] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Message to IT: Trusting Apple and Google for Mobile App Security is Career Suicide" (2 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:49:53] <Bytram> Carny: fyi... no need to quote the article as the story submission (tries to) imbed the entire text of the story
[14:50:27] <Carny> oh ok
[14:51:01] <Bytram> different sites have different... layout/html quirks and compensations... the most-used sites have the best support; some don't work so well, or at all.
[14:51:56] <Bytram> that sub, captured all the stuff one would NOT want submitted, and none of the stuff you would.
[14:51:59] <Bytram> :/
[14:52:08] <Carny> well tbh thats the only quote worth having
[14:52:13] <Carny> lol yeah wow
[14:52:13] <Bytram> lol
[14:52:28] <Carny> the bullet points are too much to quote
[14:53:43] <Bytram> otoh, feel free to use the submit story link from the main page and select the parts you want to submit... I ask, though, to put <blockquote> and </blockquote> around things that are copied verbatim from the source, and to use ellipses to mark where things have been left out. Plenty of examples of each on the site today.
[14:53:56] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[14:53:58] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Submissions
[14:53:59] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[14:54:49] <Bytram> and now is the time that I really need to start getting ready to go to work.
[14:55:14] <Bytram> Carny++ so nice to see you aboard and looking forward to your contributions!!
[14:55:14] <Bender> karma - carny: 1
[14:55:22] <Bytram> Carny++ and a couple more
[14:55:22] <Bender> karma - carny: 2
[14:55:26] <Bytram> Carny++ for good luck
[14:55:26] <Bender> karma - carny: 3
[14:55:53] <Carny> do i have to login or use javascript for that?
[14:57:52] <Bytram> umm, for what? the ++ stuff? Nope. anybody can do that
[14:58:11] <Carny> no for the submit.pl page
[14:58:19] <Bytram> ditto for submitting stories; ACs (Anonymous Cowards aka not-logged-in users can submit stories, too)
[14:58:30] <Carny> ok
[14:58:34] <Bytram> ditto for submitting stories; ACs (Anonymous Cowards aka not-logged-in users) can submit stories, too
[14:58:40] <Carny> wow you must have tons of spam :(
[14:58:59] <Bytram> couldn't let the mismatched parens alone!
[14:59:28] <Bytram> we have, so far, not had to many issues of late. we had a couple times with trolls, but can generally deal with things on an ad hoc basis.
[14:59:44] <Bytram> there's also some rate-limiting stuff in the site's code.
[15:00:22] <Carny> ok maybe i can build something secure and try in a bit
[15:00:41] <Carny> tbh almost all of my web usage is read only
[15:01:01] <Bytram> k
[15:01:42] <Bytram> really gtg (Got To Go) -- there's a whole different vocabulary here, do feel free to ask if you do not recognize/understand the abbreviations we use here.
[15:01:48] <Carny> i saw it coming a long time ago, that non-leftists were going to get flagged by companies like google and eventually my online reputation would make it hard for me to get jobs
[15:01:56] <Bytram> I know I asked a bunch of questions when I first started here!
[15:02:06] <Carny> ok
[15:02:25] <Carny> also is it ok to quote big parts of the article or does that get into copyright trouble?
[15:02:35] <Bytram> I am very... circumspect... with anything I post on-line and SN is the only "social media" I am on.
[15:03:41] <Bytram> we try to follow fair use quidelines... but there is no hard-and-fast rules. if you have any concerns at all, mention in your sub that this is a big chunk of the linked story and prolly needs to be winnowed down some more. the eds will take it from there.
[15:04:26] <Carny> its sad to have to be that way but soon i expect it will be a very big problem for politically incorrect people not being able to keep a job or public online account
[15:04:29] <Carny> ok
[15:04:53] <Bytram> They can't misuse what they don't have.
[15:05:07] <Bytram> =g commoditize your complement
[15:05:08] <upstart> https://www.gwern.net - Laws of Tech: Commoditize Your Complement - Gwern.net
[15:05:19] <Bytram> hmmm, not the one I was looking for
[15:05:33] <Bytram> =g commoditize your complement -gwern
[15:05:34] <upstart> https://news.ycombinator.com - One simple rule of business: commoditize your complements. Apple ...
[15:05:44] <Bytram> =g commoditize your complement -gwern -ycombinator
[15:05:45] <upstart> https://jasongriffey.net - Commoditizing our complements | Pattern Recognition
[15:05:59] <Bytram> =g commoditize your complement -gwern -ycombinator -Pattern
[15:06:00] <upstart> http://cdixon.org - What's strategic for Google? – cdixon blog
[15:06:08] <Bytram> =g commoditize your complement -gwern -ycombinator -Pattern -cdixon
[15:06:09] <upstart> https://medium.com - The Prescient Joel on Software – Firas Durri – Medium
[15:06:13] <Bytram> that's the one!
[15:07:06] <Bytram> (I have no comment on the other search results, but that particular story has greatly informed how I look at ANYTHING offered on the web... what is in it for THEM?)
[15:07:31] <Bytram> Carny: ^^^ very highly recommended!
[15:07:37] <Bytram> oh, wait.
[15:07:51] <Bytram> =g commoditize your complement "Joel on Software"
[15:07:52] <upstart> https://www.joelonsoftware.com - Strategy Letter V – Joel on Software
[15:08:06] <Bytram> THAT is the one!! Sorry about the earlier mispointer!
[15:08:18] <Bytram> really gtg; laters!
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[18:19:45] <chromas> #smake upstart
[18:19:45] * MrPlow smakes upstart upside the head with a clue-by-four