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[00:56:44] <upstart> ^ 03The Supreme Court Just Made It Easier for Police to Arrest You for Filming Them
[01:48:53] <Bytram> too tired to stay awake -- early to bed for me.
[01:49:24] <Bytram> hope you alj have a great night!
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[15:22:23] <Bytram> For posterity as "Delete Reason:"
[15:22:25] <Bytram> The community at this site does NOT take kindly to self-promoting stories.
[15:22:25] <Bytram> We wish you well in your endeavors, but kindly ask you to make no further submissions of this kind.
[15:22:25] <Bytram> This submission has been removed from consideration.
[15:22:35] <Bytram> wrt https://soylentnews.org
[15:22:36] <upstart> ^ 03Buy Research Chemicals & Pharmaceutical Raw Powders: SoylentNews Submission
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[16:25:08] <Fnord666_> Good afternoon everyone!
[16:28:01] <janrinok> Good afternoon/ early evening to you too
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[16:38:38] <Fnord666_> Good late afternoon/early evening to you too!
[16:40:39] <chromas> Bytram: How about "We don't have a sales dept"?
[16:43:17] <janrinok> Fnord666_, Sunday evening, finished all my chores for today, and it looks like it is about to rain - heavily!
[16:44:06] <Fnord666_> We had a good downpour during the night last night.
[16:44:44] <janrinok> We've had several nice days but the weather is changing for the next week or so. If it only rained at night I would be happy
[16:45:46] <janrinok> Question: Have you any idea what problem Bytram is trying to solve by leaving a dummy story at the top of the stories page. I can see that it has a message, but I can't work out why it is necessary.
[16:47:24] <Fnord666_> We were looking for a way to indicate that, as an editor, we were no longer working on a story
[16:48:01] <janrinok> Doesn't the comment at the bottom of the editing page tell you the same thing?
[16:48:18] <janrinok> It says who is working on which story
[16:48:19] <chromas> Not for 5 minutes
[16:48:48] <Fnord666_> It does initially, but if it says 20 minutes, is the person still working on the story or have they changed their mind?
[16:48:56] <Fnord666_> Or 30 minutes, ....
[16:48:57] <chromas> It's just supposed to be a way to clear the message at the bottom since there's no way to do it manually
[16:49:04] <janrinok> Erm, I thought that as soon as you select the first 'Preview' it adds the message at the bottom
[16:49:36] <janrinok> chromas, ah, OK - that make sense I suppose
[16:50:15] <Fnord666_> Bytram had begun editing a story about DNS registration, then paused to look up SN's details
[16:50:17] <chromas> Could also put a form button somewhere that clears it but someone would have to know perl and have time at the same time
[16:51:03] <janrinok> as long as you have the editing page open the message remains. It doesn't start timing out until you close it
[16:51:39] <chromas> I've had it time out before while open
[16:51:43] <janrinok> I could see the use for a button, but it is not something I every thought I needed. Obviously, others have seen a need for it though
[16:51:44] * chromas contrarian.jpg
[16:52:13] <Fnord666_> I think taken pointed out that if you hit the 'new' button at the top, it clears it out.
[16:52:19] <Fnord666_> Takyon
[16:52:35] <janrinok> chromas, I've never seen that, but perhaps a bug has crept in somewhere
[16:53:04] <janrinok> Yes, I read that. A clever way around the problem.
[16:53:18] <Fnord666_> I didn't know that it wouldn't time out until you left the editing page
[16:54:51] <janrinok> well, it's not supposed to time out while someone is working on a story, but if it has been doing that then perhaps there is a bug somewhere.
[16:55:29] * chromas blames javascript
[16:55:31] <Fnord666_> Did you say that it will time out 5 minutes after you close the page?
[16:55:57] <Fnord666_> Or I assume leave the page some other way?
[16:56:10] <Fnord666_> Like going back to the submissions page?
[16:56:12] <janrinok> I didn't say that. I thought it lasted much longer than that e.g. showed that you last worked on a page 30 or 40 minutes ago
[16:56:28] <chromas> it seems to vary
[16:56:48] <Fnord666_> Ah sorry. The 5 minutes was in a different context
[16:56:59] <janrinok> As I understood it, as long as the editing page was open, even it you were looking at a different tab, then it should show that you are working on the story.
[16:57:23] <Fnord666_> ok
[16:57:44] <janrinok> This is necessary so that you can cut and paste from the real story into the story summary being prepared
[16:58:32] <janrinok> But I cannot say that I have been looking at it much over the last few years to make sure that it was doing what I expected. The code could have changed way back in the past
[16:58:33] <Fnord666_> This was to be a way to clear the listing at the bottom if you have decided not to publish a story ATM
[16:59:30] <Fnord666_> Otherwise if it says someone has been in the story for 30 minutes, I don't know if they are still working on it or have moved on
[16:59:37] <janrinok> K, I can see what is trying to be achieved. We used to have to come onto IRC to speak to each other but this would be a quicker method.
[17:01:41] <chromas> Speaking is overrated :)
[17:02:02] <janrinok> lol
[17:02:08] <Fnord666_> I have found that not everyone is in IRC when editing also.
[17:02:43] <janrinok> That's true, but we are all much busier nowadays and our paths don't cross very often.
[17:03:11] <janrinok> brb 10 minutes
[17:03:15] <Fnord666_> And if I'm at work, being the banking/finance sector, things like IRC are frowned upon if it connects outside the company
[17:03:24] <Fnord666_> k
[17:03:41] <Fnord666_> Chromas - =submit is your bot, correct?
[17:03:46] <chromas> it is
[17:03:52] <chromas> did it break something?
[17:04:12] <Fnord666_> Any chance you could look at why it always drops the first paragraph from ScienceDaily submissions?
[17:04:42] <Fnord666_> I think they are styled differently so the bot doesn't seem to include them in the submitted text
[17:05:16] <chromas> Yeah; it's in its own div container
[17:05:37] <chromas> I need to find a better way I guess
[17:06:13] <Fnord666_> k
[17:06:23] <Fnord666_> Thanks!
[17:06:51] <Fnord666_> No big deal
[17:07:03] <chromas> I s'pose I could steal from janrinok's bot but I think it works differently
[17:07:53] <Fnord666_> I'm not sure how he captures the story data
[17:08:29] <Fnord666_> I think he's rewritten a bunch of StoryBot as well recently
[17:08:58] <Fnord666_> I need to see about getting a more recent copy of the source to study
[17:09:15] * Bytram coughs, repeatedly, sniffles a bit from the allergies, and returns to the channel
[17:09:18] <chromas> upstart looks for long text, then finds the most common ancestor <div> or <article> tag and calls that the story. If it looks for more id/classes that might help
[17:09:35] <Fnord666_> Howdy Bytram!!!
[17:09:42] <Bytram> Fnord666: hiya!
[17:09:51] <Bytram> while we have so many folk here...
[17:09:58] * chromas read a historical documentary and so gets the shotgun
[17:10:10] <Bytram> I just want to put out a huge thank you for all the story processing you guys have done!
[17:10:12] <chromas> He's a sufferin'
[17:10:20] <Bytram> thas for sure
[17:10:42] <Bytram> I've got some IRL stuff that needs taking care of over the next few days, and
[17:10:52] <Bytram> the site certs need renewing
[17:10:57] <chromas> ♫Old Yeller...come back Yeller♫
[17:11:01] <Fnord666_> Much thanks to you as well Bytram
[17:11:22] <Bytram> so I am going to have to ask if everyone could pitch in a bit more to keep the story queue stuffed?
[17:11:40] <Bytram> When I see it is going to run 'dry' in a couple hours, I start getting nervous...
[17:11:45] <chromas> How about a bot that does the posting? :D
[17:12:11] <Bytram> but if I see we'ere good for at least 8 hours (or more) I know I can go about my day without worrying the queue will runndry.
[17:12:29] <Bytram> and we'd name it... post haste?
[17:12:32] <Bytram> ;)
[17:12:34] <Fnord666_> Can do Bytram. Thanks for letting us know ahead of time!
[17:12:42] <Bytram> obliged
[17:12:51] * Fnord666_ groans at the name
[17:13:11] <janrinok> I come back as everyone leaves....
[17:13:20] * janrinok wonders if there is a connection
[17:13:30] <Fnord666_> We're all still gere
[17:13:30] <Bytram> Am on vacation this week, but weather is nearly entirely uncooperative except to foster more pollen production.
[17:13:46] <Bytram> Fnord666: you can cqall me Richard...
[17:13:47] <Fnord666_> S/gere/here/
[17:14:01] <janrinok> you can call me Al
[17:14:13] <Bytram> there must be a connection as I'm still here
[17:14:20] <Bytram> you can call me Betty
[17:14:22] <Fnord666_> What??? They let you have vacation?
[17:14:33] <janrinok> no, silly, he just takes one anyway
[17:14:36] <Bytram> man has to sleep once in a while
[17:14:38] <Fnord666_> As long as they don't call anyone late for dinner?
[17:14:44] <chromas> He meant vocation, but it's that cmn32480 spelling crapping in
[17:14:44] <Bytram> 'zactly
[17:14:50] <janrinok> you slept last month - I remember you telling me
[17:14:50] <Bytram> lol
[17:15:06] <Bytram> geeesh! with friends like that... ;)
[17:15:14] <Fnord666_> :)
[17:15:17] <Bytram> *cough* *cough*
[17:15:28] <janrinok> OK, who has been telling Bytram that he has got friends. Come on, own up
[17:15:42] <Fnord666_> Wasn't me
[17:15:43] <Bytram> janrinok: s/fr/f/
[17:15:56] <janrinok> true
[17:15:57] <Bytram> oh yeah, no exec =(
[17:16:16] <Bytram> =g lyrics "You've got a friend"
[17:16:17] <upstart> https://www.azlyrics.com - James Taylor - You've Got A Friend Lyrics | AZLyrics.com
[17:16:23] <Bytram> !!
[17:16:29] <Bytram> See!!!!
[17:16:36] <janrinok> Oh my God, he's going to sing now...
[17:16:45] <Bytram> =g Singing in the rain
[17:16:46] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Singin' in the Rain - Wikipedia
[17:17:31] <Fnord666_> So apropos
[17:17:54] <janrinok> I'll post stories for you if you will second mine....
[17:18:23] <Fnord666_> ditto
[17:18:31] <Bytram> 'snot rainin here atm, but humidity is so high that there is a heavy fog and visisbility < 1 mile
[17:19:20] <chromas> They should remake that movie for deaf people
[17:19:24] <Fnord666_> I've had to warn several people I know around here. It's been dropping houses on witches weather around here so they shouldn't take any chances.
[17:19:25] <chromas> Signin' in the Rain
[17:19:48] <Bytram> why you make me *cough* again?!! =)
[17:19:50] <chromas> Keep your witches inside?
[17:19:57] <Bytram> which witch?
[17:20:04] <chromas> Do I have to neuter and spay them as well?
[17:20:07] <Fnord666_> Sand witch
[17:20:38] <Fnord666_> chromas, probably a good idea but they may object
[17:20:58] <Bytram> since a witch is, by definition, neutering might be... difficult. (Or is it the other way around?)
[17:21:07] <Fnord666_> At least get them chipped in case they wander off and need to get back where they belong
[17:21:08] <Bytram> Now, as for warlocks...
[17:21:23] <chromas> Witches can have balls now. It's the current year
[17:21:31] <Bytram> is that like a chipped port sandwich?
[17:21:35] <Bytram> ugh
[17:21:38] <Bytram> is that like a chipped pork sandwich?
[17:21:39] <Fnord666_> Why you got to be so binary Bytram ??
[17:22:05] <Fnord666_> Maybe the self identify as witches
[17:22:12] <chromas> Witches aren't binary; they're hex
[17:22:14] * Bytram doesn't know any other words for mage-folk besidez those two
[17:22:22] <Bytram> **GROAN**
[17:22:42] <Fnord666_> ROFLMAO
[17:23:42] <Fnord666_> Well played sir
[17:24:20] <Bytram> indeed
[17:24:26] <janrinok> this is why I like this channel
[17:24:37] <Bytram> witch channel?
[17:26:00] <Fnord666_> Sorry I was casting about for a clever reply
[17:26:12] <Bytram> s/clever/clover/
[17:26:21] <Bytram> I take it you did not have any... luck?
[17:26:59] <Fnord666_> Apparently not :)
[17:27:09] <Bytram> why knot?
[17:28:09] <Fnord666_> Because it was a false not
[17:28:24] <Bytram> oh, a slip knot!?!!
[17:29:19] <Fnord666_> now you're going down a slippery slope with that one
[17:29:30] <Bytram> frayed knot!
[17:29:44] <Fnord666_> So a string walks into a bar...
[17:29:58] <Bytram> that must have hurt!
[17:30:35] <Fnord666_> Frayed sew
[17:30:46] <Bytram> sew what?
[17:31:47] <Fnord666_> Darn, I got nothing
[17:31:56] <Bytram> that 's what you need to darn!
[17:32:07] <chromas> This is a good thread
[17:32:27] <Fnord666_> Just don't pull on it too much
[17:32:47] <Bytram> how does one pull on nothing?
[17:33:43] * Fnord666_ is enlightened
[17:33:56] <Bytram> funny...
[17:33:58] <Fnord666_> Bytram has created a new Zen koan
[17:34:03] * Bytram needs to use a lightbulb
[17:34:35] <Bytram> could also substitute "push" for "pull"
[17:34:49] <Fnord666_> For nothing or for thread?
[17:34:55] <Bytram> Yes!
[17:35:15] <janrinok> Can someone please 2nd the stories that are now going live?
[17:35:15] <Bytram> Well, I mean push on nothing, but either would work.
[17:35:55] <Fnord666_> working on the shield story
[17:36:30] <Bytram> k
[17:37:39] <Fnord666_> Seconded shield story, working on spaceX
[17:38:41] <chromas> We did the Doom one back when it was future tense. Should this new one point to it? https://soylentnews.org
[17:38:43] <upstart> ^ 03John Romero Gifts 'Doom' 18 New Levels For Its 25th Birthday - SoylentNews
[17:39:00] <Fnord666_> I would
[17:39:05] <Fnord666_> Seconded spaceX
[17:39:20] <janrinok> story queue is good for 10 hours
[17:39:39] <Bytram> thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:39:59] <Fnord666_> What he said^^^^^^^^^
[17:41:28] <Bytram> oh!
[17:41:48] <janrinok> Takyon's 'fix' for the active editors works very well.
[17:41:50] <Fnord666_> Sorry janrinok when you mentioned seconding stories a bit earlier I thought you were speaking in generalities, not specifics
[17:41:53] <Bytram> as for the "Current Editor/Admin Sessions" which appears at the bottom of the page...
[17:42:07] <janrinok> Fnord666_, np, thanks
[17:42:12] <Bytram> it has been my experience that it will remember a session for up to 30 minutes (IIRC)
[17:42:24] <chromas> Ah, that's why janrinok's working on ""
[17:42:38] <Bytram> and, just bcause I've saved the story tot the main page, it does not seem to clear that I am in the story.
[17:42:48] <janrinok> that used to be approx 30 minutes after closing the editing page
[17:43:01] <Bytram> It seems to need some other -- activity -- to reset...
[17:43:12] <Bytram> hence the creation of the I am not working on a story story
[17:43:17] <janrinok> select New, Preview, and throw away
[17:43:34] <Bytram> but, takyon's trick of opening a new story fromt he admin bar seems to do the trick.
[17:43:43] <Fnord666_> Since we're mostly all here, can we just do away with that pseudostory now?
[17:44:01] <chromas> Just post it some time when the queue is low
[17:44:09] <Bytram> so, I'd like to leave that entry there for a few more days so all editors can see it, and practice, too.
[17:44:13] <janrinok> Bytram, that is what is was just saying, that is what I did
[17:44:15] <Bytram> not yet
[17:44:18] <Fnord666_> ok
[17:44:18] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:44:31] <Fnord666_> BTW you don't even need to preview, just hit new
[17:44:33] <janrinok> not sure why I need it, but I will do it
[17:45:01] <Bytram> on occasion, I still see CoolHand, NotSanguine, Snow, (off the top of my head) pop in from time-to-time
[17:45:05] <janrinok> If you don't hit preview it doesn't overwrite your previous entry I beleive
[17:45:11] <Bytram> hold on
[17:45:25] <Fnord666_> As soon as I hit new and scroll down, it's been cleared
[17:45:29] <Fnord666_> At least for me
[17:45:37] <janrinok> on that page, but it doesn't update all the others
[17:45:38] <Bytram> okay< I just opened: US now seeking social media details from all visa applicants
[17:45:51] <Bytram> do you all see that?
[17:45:59] <Fnord666_> Bytram, what activity do you see for me?
[17:46:15] <Fnord666_> Bytram, yes
[17:46:19] <chromas> "Fnord666 93s"
[17:46:20] <Bytram> nothin
[17:46:47] <janrinok> I can see Bytram in that story for about 70 seconds now
[17:46:48] <Bytram> what chromas said... let me double check
[17:46:59] <Fnord666_> Ok. I did not not hit preview
[17:47:02] <Fnord666_> Just new
[17:47:12] <Bytram> I see: "Fnord666 32s "
[17:47:28] <Bytram> now I am going to click on "New" in the task bar... and do nothing else
[17:47:35] <Fnord666_> ok
[17:47:40] <Bytram> cllicked
[17:47:48] <Fnord666_> Your entry has been cleared
[17:47:48] <chromas> "martyb 5s "
[17:47:53] <Bytram> k
[17:48:18] <Fnord666_> Now there is no entry for you at all
[17:48:26] <janrinok> The only ed active is Chromas now
[17:48:50] <Fnord666_> Ah, so mine cleared as well.
[17:48:59] <Bytram> I see Fnord666 active for 12s
[17:49:20] <janrinok> if you NEW, Preview it removes your status from the bottom completely. Just NEW shows you active but no story name
[17:49:21] <Fnord666_> Recheck please
[17:49:34] <Bytram> 66s
[17:49:46] <Fnord666_> And now?
[17:49:56] <janrinok> Fnord666_, 70s Chromas 3 m
[17:50:00] <Fnord666_> hmmm
[17:50:12] <Fnord666_> I hit preview in between those
[17:50:28] <janrinok> FNord 33 s
[17:50:35] <Bytram> the point is that whatever story had been edited, opening "New" from the "Admin" bar clears that out. And that is sufficient, as well. No need to hit preview or anything else. Agreed?
[17:50:44] <Fnord666_> agreed
[17:51:20] <janrinok> If you don't hit preview, it shows you as active but NOT in a story. Preview clears the activity completely
[17:51:59] <janrinok> or at least it does on mine
[17:51:59] <Fnord666_> janrinok, for the dentist story do you want me to drill down to the original material and cite the paper?
[17:52:16] <janrinok> did I miss the story link out?
[17:52:34] <Bytram> point taken, but I wonder how important that distinction really is? So long as I know no story is attached to an editor's nick, I can assume all is fair game.
[17:52:52] <Bytram> Fnord666: dentist... drill down... OUCH!
[17:52:59] <chromas> yes. a hollow spot. a root canal
[17:53:00] <Fnord666_> :)
[17:53:19] <janrinok> well, as I've never had this problem anyway, it matters not to me which method we choose
[17:53:53] <Fnord666_> Yeah, there's a link to the Oregon State University page of the article
[17:54:33] <janrinok> I only found out an hour or two back that there _was_ a problem. Can't say that I'd noticed it during the last 5 years :)
[17:54:46] <janrinok> Fnord666_, yes please, my bad
[17:54:55] <Fnord666_> No problem. Seconding now
[17:55:18] <Bytram> not so much a "problem" but unclear communication as to who was up to what. Now it's... all clear!
[17:55:59] <janrinok> If I think someone is in a story, I grab another one.
[17:56:26] <janrinok> but happy to follow any decision that helps others
[17:56:49] <Bytram> yes, agreed. But if I go in to a story, and see that someone else is already in there, it is nice to have a way to flag that I am NOT working on it, so as to remove any possible confusion.
[17:57:29] <janrinok> but if you still have it open, nobody can work on it because if you save that page later it will overwrite any work done in the meantime
[17:58:15] * janrinok is not in the habit of opening the edit page other than for editing... but that is just him
[17:58:34] <Bytram> how else can I see what a story contains without opening it in the editor?
[17:58:49] <chromas> You can click the title instead of the number
[17:59:06] <Bytram> not in the story list, but in the story submission list page
[17:59:34] <chromas> You need a second browser session or container tab where you're not logged in
[17:59:57] <Bytram> whatever the means, it is nice to have a means to say: "Hey! I'm not doing anything... have at it!"
[18:00:08] <Bytram> that is all.
[18:00:11] <janrinok> If I open a submission and only read it it doesn't matter what anyone else does to it
[18:00:17] <Fnord666_> Huh. I didn't know you could click on the number in the story list to go straight into editing
[18:01:01] <Bytram> janrinok: you may know that, but when I look at the list at the bottom of the page, I see that you are editing it and am wary of opening the same story for fear we'd step on each other.
[18:01:11] <Fnord666_> janrinok, but other have no way of knowing whether your editing it or not
[18:01:15] <janrinok> Ah...! you have much to learn grasshopper. There are loads of things that one editor has discovered that remain dark secrets to the rest of us. Takyon's suggestion is a good example of this!
[18:01:31] <Bytram> 'zactly
[18:01:54] <Bytram> this was just a thought that came to mind one day with that story being at the top of the subs queue...
[18:02:04] <Bytram> then I realized a better place would be at thte top of the story queue.
[18:02:06] <janrinok> Perhaps we should start documenting these ideas and tips so that I can include them in the editing guide
[18:02:15] <Bytram> and now I've learned that I can just open a "New" story!
[18:02:27] <Bytram> good idea.
[18:02:34] <Fnord666_> agreed
[18:03:11] <janrinok> If I can ever get ZNC to work I can always find them in here, but alas....
[18:03:57] <Bytram> there is a page where loggie keeps his logs
[18:04:00] <Bytram> hold in
[18:04:02] <Bytram> *on
[18:04:24] <chromas> Loggie
[18:04:25] <Bytram> here ya go: https://logs.sylnt.us
[18:04:34] <janrinok> yes I know, but I'm not going to read all the logs for the last 5 years looking for tips!
[18:04:41] <Fnord666_> lol
[18:04:44] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:05:32] <janrinok> If I could check the logs say, once a week, then it would be manageable. But I haven't got ZNC I can only find what is said while I am logged on.
[18:06:18] <Bytram> your own, personal logs, yes. I see that, too. Loggie has been helpful for me on a number of opccasions
[18:06:51] <Bytram> Well, as much as I am enjoying this conversation, I've not eaten anything yet today, and am finding I tire more easily with my allergies acting up...
[18:07:02] <Bytram> think I'm going to take a break for a while...
[18:07:22] <Bytram> thanks so much for the comaraderie (sp?) and fo keeping the queue stuffed!
[18:07:27] <Bytram> puns++
[18:07:28] <Bender> karma - puns: 1
[18:07:30] <Bytram> teamwork++
[18:07:30] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 196
[18:07:34] <janrinok> have a good meal - my roast chicken was delicious
[18:07:46] <Bytram> So glad to hear it!
[18:08:03] <Bytram> Reminds me I still have some stew left... sounds like a plan!
[18:08:05] <Bytram> laters
[18:08:16] <janrinok> ... and honeyed carrots with sesame seeds, creamed potatoes, peas and roast onion
[18:08:34] <janrinok> laters Bytram
[18:08:36] <Bytram> sounds absolutely yummy!
[18:08:40] <janrinok> it was
[18:08:44] <Bytram> ciao (chow?) for now!
[18:09:03] <janrinok> lol
[18:14:40] <Fnord666_> janrinok, that sounds delicious
[18:15:39] <Fnord666_> I do need to take my leave as well. Yardwork awaits while the day is clear and the temp is not hot
[18:16:16] <Fnord666_> It was awesome to chat with everyone! Laters.
[18:18:14] <janrinok> have a good one - laters
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