#editorial | Logs for 2019-05-30

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[00:47:46] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[00:47:47] <systemd> ^ 03Apple's privacy schtick is just an act, say folks suing the iGiant: iTunes 'purchase histories sold' to highest bidders ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[00:47:51] <exec> └─ 13Apple's privacy schtick is just an act, say folks suing the iGiant: iTunes 'purchase histories sold' to highest bidders • The Register
[00:47:51] <exec> └─ 13Apple's privacy schtick is just an act, say folks suing the iGiant: iTunes 'purchase histories sold' to highest bidders • The Register
[00:52:19] <Deucalion> Does exec have a stammer?
[00:56:56] <Deucalion> While I am in the vicinity - thank you editors all for keeping SN fed with stories of merit.... every single day..... it's not unnoticed if anyone cares
[00:57:24] <Bytram> very much appreciate the acknowledgment!
[00:57:38] <Bytram> and, exec is just translating BOTH urls it saw there.
[00:59:29] <Deucalion> looks like bot wars to me but this isn't my department.
[01:03:49] <Bytram> well, let's see here...
[01:04:16] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[01:04:18] <systemd> ^ 03Researchers Link the Evolution of Bipedalism to Supernovae - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[01:04:20] <exec> └─ 13Researchers Link the Evolution of Bipedalism to Supernovae - SoylentNews
[01:04:21] <exec> └─ 13Researchers Link the Evolution of Bipedalism to Supernovae - SoylentNews
[01:04:31] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[01:04:32] <systemd> ^ 03Researchers Link the Evolution of Bipedalism to Supernovae - SoylentNews
[01:04:34] <exec> └─ 13Researchers Link the Evolution of Bipedalism to Supernovae - SoylentNews
[01:05:41] <Bytram> the shortened link is expanded by systemd; exec then sees the original, shortened, link and then it sees the expanded (full) link output by systemd and then dutifully tracks down the title for each of those... which just happen to both be of the same thing
[01:07:17] <Deucalion> I shirk at shortened link... if you guys are happy with what goes in here I'm switching off
[01:08:42] <Deucalion> Really.... it makes my bot-fu feel bad... oh well I'll get over it :)
[01:08:55] <Bytram> all is fine; off to bed with ya, and may you have sweet sweet slumbers through the night
[01:09:05] <Deucalion> Can I retire rss-bot?
[01:09:27] <Bytram> no!
[01:09:29] <Deucalion> Oh wait... Bender ate that too
[01:09:46] <Bytram> The #rss-bot is a *huge* source of stories for the site
[01:10:04] <Bytram> the #rss-bot channel, that is
[01:13:13] <systemd-chromasd> Someone was asking about irc/znc credentials awhile back but I can't look at my log to see who it was
[01:13:42] <Deucalion> janrinok, I got it
[01:13:58] <systemd-chromasd> cool
[01:14:00] <systemd-chromasd> Deucalion++
[01:14:00] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 8
[01:16:26] <Bytram> indeed
[01:16:29] <Bytram> Deucalion++
[01:16:29] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 9
[01:17:33] <Deucalion> OK stop that. I'm off to bed.
[01:18:10] <systemd-chromasd> ~g'night ping Deucalion
[01:18:12] * exec derisively violates a hooker full of cromulence with ping
[01:18:24] <Bytram> ~gnight Deucalion
[01:18:26] * exec furiously drops a beach bucket of whoopass on Deucalion
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[02:51:01] <Bytram> got one story left to go in the queue, but I'm absolutely knackered... I provided 3 story submissions which are, hopefully, just a read it through, set date/time, and release... but be sure to watch out for typos, k?
[02:51:15] <Bytram> =gnight #editorial
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[13:11:07] <Bytram> =submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[13:11:09] <exec> └─ 13There's a scarily good 'deepfakes' YouTube channel that's quietly growing – and it's freaking everyone out • The Register
[15:52:56] <systemd-chromasd> &set prefix =
[15:53:14] <systemd-chromasd> hm
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[16:38:41] -!- mode/#editorial [+v chromas] by Hephaestus
[17:10:04] <Bytram> chromas: It looks like you had a space between the word "prefix" and the "="... might not be what you intended
[17:10:10] <Bytram> =submit
[17:10:10] <upstart> Submit a link
[17:10:16] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[17:10:18] <upstart> Submitting "James Webb Space Telescope emerges successfully from final thermal vacuum test"...
[17:10:18] <exec> └─ 13James Webb Space Telescope emerges successfully from final thermal vacuum test
[17:10:32] <chromas> Nah; setting the prefix to the value '='
[17:10:40] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "James Webb Space Telescope Emerges Successfully From Final Thermal Vacuum Test" -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:10:46] <chromas> But the bot died for some reason. It's back up on the server though now
[17:10:48] <Bytram> Oh? Oh! got it.
[17:10:56] <Bytram> good good
[17:11:08] <chromas> server hdd started dying so I had to swap it out
[17:11:17] <Bytram> lose anyting?
[17:11:20] * Bytram hopes not
[17:11:46] <chromas> It doesn't wanna boot but all the data still seems to be there
[17:12:10] <Bytram> is that the only backup copy you have?
[17:12:30] <chromas> it's my backup box
[17:12:37] <Bytram> might want to clone it before getting too creative
[17:12:40] <Bytram> oh
[17:12:41] <chromas> but also runs irc client and stuff, which don't have backups
[17:12:48] <Bytram> k
[17:13:13] <chromas> or better yet, it's a toybox server that also backs up the desktop
[17:13:21] <Bytram> far too many times have I fixed "just one more thing" and broke it all to smithereens
[17:13:37] <Bytram> redundancy++
[17:13:37] <Bender> karma - redundancy: 0
[17:13:41] <Bytram> redundancy++
[17:13:41] <Bender> karma - redundancy: 1
[17:14:21] <Bytram> well, still fighting these allergies. think I'm gonna take a nap and help my body fight off the "invaders"
[17:14:33] <Bytram> laters
[17:14:35] <chromas> I'll start backing up to sn servers ;)
[17:14:39] <chromas> =g'noight Bytram
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[17:14:51] <chromas> I guess there's still something missing
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[17:15:30] <Bytram> be aware that downloading *from* our servers is *very* bandwidth restricted
[17:15:45] <Bytram> =gnight chromas
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[17:15:50] <Bytram> yup
[17:15:57] <Bytram> ~blme
[17:16:02] <Bytram> ~blame
[17:16:04] * exec points at Bytram
[17:16:14] <Bytram> (Brought to you by the letter "A")
[17:16:28] <Bytram> and... Away I go.
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[22:27:40] <Bytram> ~eds There is a story already queued up for the weekend, so be mindful that there are likely two stories at the top of the queue to skip when scheduling your next story to go out.
[22:27:42] <exec> editor ping for Bytram (reason: there is a story already queued up for the weekend, so be mindful that there are likely two stories at the top of the queue to skip when scheduling your next story to go out.): janrinok n1 nick Bytram cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away Fnord666 FatPhil mrpg chromas fyngyrz
[22:28:21] * chromas moves everything else to the exact same slot
[22:29:17] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[22:29:18] <upstart> ^ 03Hawaii warns tourists of parasitic worm that can burrow into human brains ( https://arstechnica.com )
[22:29:20] <exec> └─ 13Hawaii warns tourists of parasitic worm that can burrow into human brains | Ars Technica
[22:29:26] <Bytram> Brainz!!
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[23:31:59] <Bytram> whereto? https://about.flipboard.com
[23:32:01] <upstart> ^ 03Notice of Security Incident ( https://about.flipboard.com )
[23:32:03] <exec> └─ 13Notice of Security Incident
[23:35:36] <chromas> You're missing an ampersand
[23:35:47] <chromas> ×2
[23:38:03] <Bytram> not me... thank the story editor on the site which strips them out of story submissions before they are displayed in the editor pane
[23:38:09] <Bytram> :P
[23:38:45] <Bytram> chromas: does your bot submit stories as "plain tedst" or as "HTML formatted" ??
[23:38:51] <Bytram> s/ds/x/
[23:38:53] <exec> <Bytram> chromas: does your bot submit stories as "plain text" or as "HTML formatted" ??
[23:39:10] <chromas> plain text because using html would introduce buttloads of blank space and stuff
[23:39:39] <chromas> Well, part of it's probably from the bot, but rehash would do weird things with the junk upstart throws at it
[23:39:54] <Bytram> I've seen "&amp;" get stripped from submissions, and seen bare "&" make it through? But that's *after* it has already gotten to me in the editor window.
[23:40:32] <chromas> I think the bot is borking the url there
[23:40:40] <Bytram> =submit this&amp;that https://chat.soylentnews.org
[23:40:40] <upstart> Submit failed: Article root node is null. The article extractor needs tuning.
[23:40:42] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Web IRC (Iris)
[23:40:48] <Bytram> lol
[23:40:55] <Bytram> =submit this&amp;that https://lists.soylentnews.org
[23:40:56] <upstart> Submitting "503 Service Unavailable"...
[23:40:57] <exec> └─ 13503 Service Unavailable
[23:41:18] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "503 Service Unavailable" -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:41:22] <Bytram> =submit this&amp;that https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[23:41:24] <upstart> Submitting "SoylentNews"...
[23:41:25] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews
[23:41:46] <upstart> Submit failed: This resource is no longer valid. Please return to the beginning and try again.
[23:41:53] <Bytram> lol!
[23:42:21] <Bytram> =submit this &amp; that (ampersand-aye-emm-pee-semi) https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[23:42:23] <upstart> Submitting "SoylentNews"...
[23:42:24] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews
[23:42:27] <chromas> I bet I didn't copy the sn session cookie
[23:42:39] <Bytram> hrm?
[23:42:44] <upstart> Submit failed: This resource is no longer valid. Please return to the beginning and try again.
[23:42:59] <Bytram> no cookie for you?
[23:43:47] <chromas> if you want to see what the bot puts into sn, you can try http://chromas.0x.no
[23:43:50] <exec> └─ 13Soysub
[23:44:05] <Bytram> =submit this &amp; that (ampersand-aye-emm-pee-semi) and then THIS & THAT (ampersand-only) https://www.bbc.co.uk
[23:44:08] <exec> └─ 13The sea-cooled eco-resort that's nearly mosquito-free - BBC News
[23:44:09] <upstart> Submitting "The sea-cooled eco-resort that's nearly mosquito-free"...
[23:44:31] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "The Sea-cooled Eco-resort That's Nearly Mosquito-free" -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:47:43] <chromas> Plus all the parameters with missing & are supposed to be stripped anyhow
[23:47:51] <chromas> so that's like a double bug
[23:48:36] <Bytram> umm, I copied that link from within a submitted story I was editing... SN had mangled it before it ever got here.
[23:49:19] <chromas> from the real article? You mean upstart didn't break it?
[23:49:36] <Bytram> hold on
[23:49:50] <chromas> I don't even see that stuff in the cnet page but maybe they fixed it
[23:50:14] <Bytram> two things
[23:50:26] <Bytram> (1) Here is a link to the final story: https://soylentnews.org
[23:50:27] <upstart> ^ 03Error
[23:50:29] <exec> └─ 13Error
[23:50:42] <Bytram> (2) Here is a link to the original submission: https://soylentnews.org
[23:50:43] <upstart> ^ 03Flipboard Database Hacks Exposed Users' Account Information: SoylentNews Submission
[23:50:45] <exec> └─ 13Flipboard Database Hacks Exposed Users' Account Information: SoylentNews Submission
[23:51:02] <chromas> That's what I'm looking at too
[23:51:22] <Bytram> if you open (2) and look at the link under "blog post" you will see that the ampersands got stripped.
[23:51:33] <Bytram> oh, and that WAS an upstart submission.
[23:52:12] <Bytram> (3) This is a link to the actaul story on c|net: https://www.cnet.com
[23:52:13] <upstart> ^ 03Flipboard database hacks exposed users' account information
[23:52:14] <exec> └─ 13Flipboard database hacks exposed users' account information - CNET
[23:52:42] <chromas> They must've fixed their page because their link doesn't even have those extra parameters, and the bot output doesn't have it (even a mangled version) now either
[23:53:12] <Bytram> yeah, I noticed the page had been updated since the story was submitted and had to an extensive rewrite of the story sub
[23:53:15] <Bytram> sorry
[23:53:33] <Bytram> I am fighting a really nasty attack of seasonal allergies and finding it hard to concentrate
[23:53:35] <Bytram> which rweminds me
[23:53:39] <Bytram> phlegm--
[23:53:39] <Bender> karma - phlegm: -4
[23:53:42] <Bytram> mucous--
[23:53:42] <Bender> karma - mucous: -1
[23:53:52] <Bytram> tissues++
[23:53:52] <Bender> karma - tissues: 2
[23:53:55] <Bytram> =)
[23:54:01] <Bytram> afk biab
[23:54:02] <chromas> butt still I probably need to fix the bot
[23:56:45] <Bytram> now I can't find a page that uses the &utm stuff in its links
[23:57:12] <chromas> You could make one and stick it on a server somewhere
[23:57:29] <Bytram> anyway, need to take a break. I put up a couple story submissions, if you'd like to take a look?
[23:57:41] * chromas hunts for any place that inappropriately touches links
[23:58:04] <Bytram> !grab chromas
[23:58:04] <Bender> Added quote 79
[23:58:09] <Bytram> ~~quote 79
[23:58:12] <Bytram> !quote 79
[23:58:12] <Bender> Quote 79 - <chromas> You could make one and stick it on a server somewhere
[23:58:31] <Bytram> not quite the same
[23:58:33] <chromas> hehe
[23:58:40] <Bytram> indeed!
[23:58:49] <Bytram> really gtg; back in a bit
[23:58:50] <Bytram> afk