#editorial | Logs for 2019-01-16
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[03:05:53] <Bytram> wherto? https://www.newscientist.com
[03:05:55] <upstart> ^ 03How hagfish can make enough slime to clog a shark's jaws in seconds | New Scientist ( https://www.newscientist.com )
[03:07:01] <Bytram> blerg! paywalled. :(
[03:17:08] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[03:17:09] <upstart> ^ 03Eugene the world record Instagram egg: 'It's been incredible' ( https://www.cnet.com )
[03:17:11] <exec> └─ 13Eugene the world record Instagram egg: 'It's been incredible' - CNET
[03:23:03] <Bytram> http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org
[03:23:04] <upstart> Error: Title is empty
[03:26:11] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[03:26:12] <upstart> ^ 03China's moon lander sprouted a plant, but now it's dead ( https://www.cnet.com )
[03:26:13] <exec> └─ 13China's moon lander sprouted a plant, but now it's dead - CNET
[03:29:17] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[03:29:18] <upstart> ^ 03Someone built a computer inside a mouse, and it's super cute ( https://www.cnet.com )
[03:29:19] <exec> └─ 13Someone built a computer inside a mouse, and it's super cute - CNET
[03:31:27] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.sciencedaily.com
[03:31:32] <exec> 751 stories loaded
[03:31:33] <exec> attempting to submit story: "New evidence of superconductivity at near room temperature"
[03:32:02] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[03:32:08] <exec> 750 stories loaded
[12:41:25] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[12:41:26] <upstart> ^ 03Cray will realise 'substantial' loss. But Shasta minute, folks, big iron market will pick up ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[12:41:28] <exec> └─ 13Cray will realise 'substantial' loss. But Shasta minute, folks, big iron market will pick up • The Register
[13:41:27] <Bytram> #g crop circle
[13:41:28] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "A crop circle or crop formation is a pattern created by flattening a crop, usually a cereal. The term was first coined in the early 1980s by Colin Andrews. Crop ..."
[14:06:16] <chromas> So that's where round cereal ports come from
[14:06:34] <chromas> or would it be cereal meads?
[14:06:56] <Bytram> chromas: I don't know, but the story queue has run dry again...
[14:07:19] <Bytram> I just subbed a few stories
[14:07:46] <Bytram> I don't see any bot stories that I didn't sub, so I can't really push one of those out.
[14:07:48] <chromas> It looks dry, but really, we just set the story spacing extra wide
[14:07:55] <Bytram> any chance you could help?
[14:08:12] * Bytram steps back to make things look closer together
[14:08:59] <chromas> Yeah I'm clicking your stories
[14:09:25] <Bytram> I can here it from hear!
[14:10:05] <Bytram> #g APA american
[14:10:06] <MrPlow> http://www.apa.org - "The American Psychological Association (APA) is a scientific and professional organization that represents psychologists in the United States. APA educates the ..."
[14:12:59] <Bytram> whereto? https://arstechnica.com
[14:13:00] <upstart> ^ 03Psychologists defend claim of “destructive aspects” to masculinity ( https://arstechnica.com )
[14:13:03] <exec> └─ 13Psychologists defend claim of “destructive aspects” to masculinity | Ars Technica
[14:13:48] <Bytram> okay, expecting a call... gtg
[14:13:51] <Bytram> thanks for the help!!!!!
[14:58:53] <fyngyrz> Bytram, I've built a Perl 5 module to allow TMB to easily implement the <abbr> functionality on the story editor web page
[14:59:24] <fyngyrz> I dont' know if or when he might implement it, but it's there, ready to go.
[15:00:07] <fyngyrz> And I just want you to know that I feel really DIRTY for having written some Perl again. :P
[15:22:07] <Bytram> NOTE TO SELF: see preceding discussion in #dev
[15:22:32] <Bytram> Like I said, I thnk the auto generation of ABBR tags is GREAT!
[15:22:44] <fyngyrz> so where we disagree, Bytram, is that you consider the <abbr> tag an editorial MOD of the source; I consider it an editorial clarification, no more, and one that furthermore does not change anything the quote was presenting.
[15:22:52] <Bytram> I just take issue with making *any* changes to quoted source that is not marked as such.
[15:23:00] <fyngyrz> okay, well, we disagree. :)
[15:23:40] <Bytram> question: how can I, as a reader of SoylentNews, distinguish between an ABBR tag in the original versus one that SN has added?
[15:23:41] <fyngyrz> but it's up to you guys. I wrote it, you can use it any way you want. I think it'd be a damned shame to skip quoted sections, basically shooting the whole idea in the foot, but if that's what you all decide on, well, there you go.
[15:23:49] <fyngyrz> why do you need to?
[15:24:17] <fyngyrz> but in any case, it would be trivial to add a [SN:] in the hover text to ones we add
[15:24:48] <fyngyrz> I can add that in about twenty minutes (need flags, text setter, etc.)
[15:24:53] <fyngyrz> you want me to?
[15:24:58] <Bytram> at a fundamental level, and I know this is overstating the point, but for me it boils down to: maintaining editorial integrity.
[15:25:06] <Bytram> interresting
[15:25:21] <fyngyrz> okay, I'll do it. There's no harm in that.
[15:25:22] <Bytram> beware, ScienceNews.com refers to themselves as SN :/
[15:25:40] <Bytram> so, "SoylentNews: stuff" ??
[15:25:50] <fyngyrz> I'll make it settable, so YOU can beware. :)
[15:25:58] <fyngyrz> bbiaf
[15:26:52] <Bytram> it still puts a major burr up my butt, but that comes from decades of software test and seeing 'benign' changes break things in unexpected ways.
[15:27:07] <Bytram> call it my version of Spidey Sense, if you will. =)
[15:27:44] <Bytram> would really like to chat more, but I am supposed to be AT work in an hour and I haven't even cleaned up yet, so really gtg.
[15:28:11] <fyngyrz> I have provided both term-level ignore, and a switch to kill the whole thing. So at story edit/update time, you can decide on a case by case basis
[15:28:20] <fyngyrz> cul. Code's about half done
[15:28:33] <Bytram> let me note that I appreciate how this was a reasoned discussion and did not escalate into some kind of flame fest. Kudos!
[15:28:45] <fyngyrz> I try not to do flames. :)
[15:29:08] <Bytram> yeah, asbestos suits are now known to cancerous in the state of California! =)
[15:29:19] * Bytram lobs in a missing "be"
[15:29:39] <Bytram> much appreciate that... flames are, heh, a pain!
[15:29:42] <Bytram> laters!
[15:45:11] <fyngyrz> okay, it's done and in the repo.
[15:45:19] <fyngyrz> test code too.
[21:10:19] <fyngyrz> Something I found interesting today: the article on Brexit contained some of the most reasonable, interesting posts in recent memory on Soylent.
[21:18:07] <chromas> That doesn't sound right
[21:24:38] <fyngyrz> I know. We may have been hacked
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[21:58:17] <yuhong> I wonder if you saw https://twitter.com
[21:58:18] <upstart> ^ 03Yuhong Bao on Twitter
[21:58:20] <exec> └─ 13Twitter
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[22:09:05] <chromas> Ah, the empty reason field
[22:09:17] <chromas> Maybe it should be tweaked to say "no reason was given"
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[22:11:30] <yuhong> Original link is https://t.co
[22:11:31] <upstart> ^ 03http://yuhongbao.blogspot.com/2018/09/google-doubleclick-mozilla-overview_92.html
[22:11:32] <exec> └─ 13http://yuhongbao.blogspot.com/2018/09/google-doubleclick-mozilla-overview_92.html
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[22:15:52] <chromas> #tell yuhong the declined sub email is a template that didn't get filled because the "reason" field was left empty.
[22:15:52] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
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