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[01:09:36] <Bytram> http://www.businessinsider.com
[01:09:37] <upstart> ^ 03Hackers stole a casino's database through a thermometer in the lobby fish tank - Business Insider
[01:09:38] <exec> └─ 13Hackers stole a casino's database through a thermometer in the lobby fish tank - Business Insider
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[01:34:02] <mrpg> .
[01:38:43] <mrpg> Hi. I'll do "Hackers Exploit Smart Thermometer to Steal Casino Information
[01:38:43] <mrpg> "
[01:38:54] <Bytram> FYI, title is a bit misleading
[01:39:17] <Bytram> when I read the story, I though they found a way to exfiltrate data through the thermomenter...
[01:39:52] <mrpg> hmmm
[01:39:59] <Bytram> when they just used the thermometer as a gateway to get into the casino's network, traipsed around in there, and then pulled the data back out.
[01:40:26] <Bytram> From the title, I thought they'd found a way to transmit data by heating/cooling something and exfiltrtating the data that way
[01:40:31] <Bytram> maybe I've been reading too many
[01:40:37] <Bytram> thriller stories of late?
[01:40:53] <mrpg> haha
[01:40:54] <Bytram> that said, the story is light on details, too.
[01:40:55] <Bytram> otoh,
[01:41:09] <Bytram> it is a dascinating intorduction to yet another reason
[01:41:19] <Bytram> why one should be extremely careful when
[01:41:33] <Bytram> putting any IdIoT devices on your network
[01:41:41] <mrpg> so, should I change the title to IoT snafu?
[01:42:04] <mrpg> hackers exploit thermometer to infiltrate network
[01:42:13] <Bytram> 'S'ituation 'N'ormal, 'A'll 'F'ouled 'U'p?
[01:42:20] <Bytram> that sounds good!
[01:42:20] <mrpg> yes
[01:42:25] <Bytram> ;)
[01:42:47] <Bytram> then again, is late, I'm tired, may not have fully grokked the story when I skimmed through it
[01:43:00] <Bytram> oh, and thanks for 2nding my stories
[01:43:03] <mrpg> The only thing smaller than a PC that I plan on having here is a raspy or a NUC.
[01:43:05] <Bytram> mrpg++
[01:43:05] <Bender> karma - mrpg: 32
[01:43:11] <mrpg> Welcome
[01:43:15] <Bytram> and I see you pushedout another story besides this one, too.
[01:43:17] <Bytram> =)
[01:43:20] <Bytram> mrpg++
[01:43:20] <Bender> karma - mrpg: 33
[01:43:22] <Bytram> teamwork++
[01:43:22] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 164
[01:43:25] <mrpg> Are we gonna do the fire story from 6 years ago?
[01:43:34] <Bytram> Huh?
[01:43:50] <mrpg> Human Ancestors Tamed Fire Earlier Than Thought
[01:43:56] <Bytram> oh...
[01:44:00] * Bytram goes to lok
[01:44:09] * Bytram *look, even
[01:45:00] <mrpg> I go to their website and I get redirected to the front page for my country ?!?! wtf? let me rad your dumb website history channel
[01:45:07] <mrpg> read
[01:45:34] <Bytram> clicky #2
[01:46:36] <mrpg> same submission, humas tamed fire.
[01:46:57] <mrpg> let me try using my vpn
[01:48:08] <mrpg> Now I can see it. So it is because of my IP.
[01:48:16] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:49:18] <mrpg> I'll do "fda bans sale of bulk caffeine to consumers"
[01:49:24] <Bytram> As May not generate much discussion, but I found it interesting and am glad I read it.
[01:49:34] <Bytram> s/As /It /
[01:49:35] <exec> <Bytram> It May not generate much discussion, but I found it interesting and am glad I read it.
[01:49:40] <mrpg> me too
[01:49:48] <Bytram> go for it, then
[01:49:50] <mrpg> karma me
[01:49:54] <mrpg> #karma me
[01:50:05] <Bytram> !karma mrpg
[01:50:05] <Bender> karma of mrpg is 33
[01:50:07] <Bytram> =)
[01:50:27] <Bytram> !karma Bytram
[01:50:27] <Bender> karma of bytram is 61
[01:50:30] <mrpg> No, I wanted to see if "me" has karma :)
[01:50:35] <Bytram> me++
[01:50:35] <Bender> karma - me: 1
[01:50:35] <mrpg> !karma me
[01:50:35] <Bender> karma of me is 1
[01:50:43] <Bytram> now it does!
[01:50:53] <mrpg> I deserve it:
[01:50:54] <mrpg> me++
[01:50:55] <Bender> karma - me: 2
[01:50:55] * Bytram chuckles...
[01:50:58] <Bytram> karma++
[01:50:58] <Bender> karma - karma: 1
[01:51:04] <Bytram> !karma karma
[01:51:04] <Bender> karma of karma is 1
[01:51:14] <Bytram> recursion++
[01:51:14] <Bender> karma - recursion: 2
[01:51:27] <mrpg> !karma dharma
[01:51:27] <Bender> dharma doesn't have karma yet.
[01:51:30] <mrpg> :(
[01:51:43] <Bytram> how about Greg?
[01:52:10] <Bytram> #g Dharma and Greg
[01:52:10] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Dharma & Greg is an American television sitcom that aired from September 24, 1997, to April 30, 2002. The show starred Jenna Elfman and Thomas Gibson as Dharma and Greg Montgomery, a couple who married on their first date despite being polar opposites. The series was co-produced by Chuck Lorre Productions, ..."
[01:52:11] <upstart> ^ 03Dharma & Greg - Wikipedia
[01:52:25] <mrpg> He has enough karma with her
[01:53:30] <mrpg> I met a woman , when I was studying French, who met a guy at a party, and from that day on they went to live together.
[01:53:34] <Bytram> mrpg: pls ping me when the fire story is ready for ending
[01:53:46] <Bytram> ouch
[01:53:51] <mrpg> They got married and had a girl.
[01:54:22] <mrpg> ok
[01:55:04] <Bytram> love at first sight (and site)
[01:56:43] <mrpg> fire story -ready
[01:57:38] <Bytram> k, thanks
[01:57:56] <Bytram> 2nded
[01:58:06] <mrpg> now I'll do "FDA bans..."
[02:01:13] <mrpg> Between 10 and 14 grams of caffeine is considered life-threatening, according to the FDA’s guidelines
[02:01:17] <mrpg> !
[02:01:32] <Bytram> yuperz
[02:02:01] <Bytram> and even just 5 grams ain't prolly gonna be too good for ya, either
[02:02:20] <Bytram> #g amount of caffeine in a glass of coffee
[02:02:20] <MrPlow> https://www.mayoclinic.org - "Apr 14, 2017 ... Keep in mind that the actual caffeine content of a cup of coffee or tea can vary considerably because of factors such as origin, processing and preparation method, including brewing time. So use these numbers as a guide. The charts below show typical caffeine content in popular beverages. Drink sizes are ..."
[02:02:38] <mrpg> Highly concentrated and pure caffeine is the one risky it seems
[02:03:27] <Bytram> from the above link, 8oz glass of coffee has 95-165 mg of caffeine
[02:03:37] <Bytram> taking the highest concentration
[02:04:02] <Bytram> it takes about 6 x 8oz cups to get 1 gram of caffeine
[02:04:27] <Bytram> to get to 10 grams (the smallest life-threatening dose you listed)
[02:04:36] <Bytram> would take 60 x 8oz cups of coffe
[02:04:56] <Bytram> or just about 4 gallons of brewed coffee
[02:05:42] <Bytram> or, on the order of 16 liters of brewed coffee
[02:06:28] <Bytram> mrpg: was nice working with ya, but I have an early day tomorrow, so will be hitting the sack shortly.
[02:06:28] <mrpg> ok.
[02:06:33] <Bytram> Hope you have a great night
[02:06:34] <mrpg> Bye later.
[02:06:37] <mrpg> u 2
[02:06:40] <Bytram> ciao for now!
[02:06:52] <mrpg> chao
[02:16:03] <mrpg> Karma is closely associated with the idea of rebirth in many schools of Indian religions.[
[02:16:32] <mrpg> I don't believe in rebirth, though I did in my previous life.
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[22:26:34] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[22:26:36] <exec> └─ 13T-Mobile hit by $40M FCC fine for injecting fake rings tones - CNET
[22:27:11] <Bytram> .op
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[22:27:18] <Bytram> .deop
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[22:28:05] <Bytram> chromas: Looks like upstart has gone napping
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[22:32:33] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[22:32:33] <upstart> ^ 03T-Mobile hit by $40M FCC fine for injecting fake rings tones - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[22:32:35] <exec> └─ 13T-Mobile hit by $40M FCC fine for injecting fake rings tones - CNET
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