#editorial | Logs for 2018-03-15

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[23:45:15] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[23:45:14] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[23:44:50] <exec> └─ 13Mulled EU copyright shakeup will turn us into robo-censors – GitHub • The Register
[23:44:49] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[23:44:48] <Bytram> #submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[23:44:33] <exec> └─ 13Mulled EU copyright shakeup will turn us into robo-censors – GitHub • The Register
[23:44:32] <upstart> ^ 03Mulled EU copyright shakeup will turn us into robo-censors – GitHub • The Register ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:44:31] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
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[23:43:19] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[23:42:48] <exec> └─ 13The truth behind St. Patrick's Day: Celebrations did not originate in Boston
[23:42:45] <Bytram> ~submit https://phys.org
[23:42:22] <exec> └─ 13The truth behind St. Patrick's Day: Celebrations did not originate in Boston
[23:42:20] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[23:42:20] <Bytram> #submit https://phys.org
[23:41:57] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[23:41:56] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[23:41:47] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[23:41:33] <exec> └─ 13DNA tests can predict intelligence, scientists show for first time 
[23:41:31] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[23:41:30] <Bytram> #submit https://www.telegraph.co.uk
[23:41:26] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[23:41:02] <exec> └─ 13Spotify plans to go public in April - CNET
[23:41:01] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[23:41:00] <Bytram> #submit https://www.cnet.com
[23:40:36] <exec> └─ 13Spotify plans to go public in April - CNET
[23:40:35] <upstart> ^ 03Spotify plans to go public in April - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[23:40:34] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[23:39:02] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[23:38:32] <exec> └─ 13Several privacy-busting bugs found in popular VPN services | ZDNet
[23:38:29] <Bytram> ~submit http://www.zdnet.com
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[18:37:25] <mrpg> bye.
[18:36:12] <mrpg> Well, I like ubuntu budgie 18.04 beta, I'm going to install 17.10 to replace xubuntu.
[18:35:25] <mrpg> But easy, click and click I dont have time to be linux-y.
[18:35:05] <mrpg> I should try something else, like qemu or something, just out of curiosity.
[18:34:45] <mrpg> I don't know why some people hate virtualbox, I've used it for years and no problem.
[18:21:45] <mrpg> I took out the blockquote, the text is not an exact quote.
[18:21:25] <exec> └─ 13Error
[18:21:23] <upstart> ^ 03Error
[18:21:22] <mrpg> ready - https://soylentnews.org
[18:08:51] <mrpg> Hi, I'll do the iheartmedia sub.
[18:06:45] -!- mode/#editorial [+v mrpg] by Hephaestus
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[15:56:04] * Bytram is away again
[15:55:59] <Bytram> dishes done... NOW time to make lunch
[15:55:39] <Bytram> try it on dev!
[15:55:28] <Bytram> named char ents, numeric char ents (decimal & hex), and literals, too.. IIRC
[15:55:14] <chromas> You might need to copy/paste the character
[15:55:10] <mrpg> high numbers of adults - ready
[15:54:57] <chromas> Do entities work in that field?
[15:54:40] <Bytram> IOW, add an editor's note with the text of the dept line so it can be pasted back in as needed
[15:54:11] <Bytram> chromas: if you do use &nbsp; in there, and someone goes in to 2nd/3rd/etc the story, be careful it does not convert back to a normal space and then to a minus, again
[15:52:50] <upstart> ^ 03Stand and Deliver - What's calculus? - YouTube
[15:52:49] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com - "Nov 6, 2007 ... The best line in the movie."
[15:52:48] <mrpg> #g what's calcoolus
[15:52:35] <chromas> You probably want a no-break space in there so your space doesn't convert to a hyphen
[15:47:04] <mrpg> Yes, I'm studying math all over again, high school and calculus.
[15:46:42] <mrpg> The formula to find the lenght of a curve.
[15:46:27] <mrpg> ∫ √(1+[f(x)']²)dx
[15:46:25] <mrpg> Ok I was going to go with something simple for the dept line like 2+2=5 but no.
[15:44:58] <mrpg> thanks
[15:44:12] <chromas> Also &#8747;
[15:43:46] <chromas> ∫
[15:43:22] <upstart> ^ 03Integral symbol - Wikipedia
[15:43:22] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The integral symbol: ∫ (Unicode), ∫ {\\displaystyle \\displaystyle \\int } \\displaystyle \\int (LaTeX). is used to denote integrals and antiderivatives in mathematics. Contents. [hide]. 1 History; 2 Typography in Unicode and LaTeX. 2.1 Fundamental symbol; 2.2 Extensions of the symbol. 3 Typography in other languages; 4 See also ..."
[15:43:21] <mrpg> #g integral symbol unicode
[15:43:07] <chromas> Not sure. I remember people complaining that Devos wanted to scale back Title 9 or something though.
[15:41:54] <mrpg> Trump wanted to stop using it, what happened to that?
[15:41:36] <mrpg> hehe
[15:41:25] <chromas> from the common core dept?
[15:41:05] <Bytram> back in a while -- food
[15:40:55] <Bytram> lol
[15:40:22] <chromas> Do you [sic] the title?
[15:40:20] <mrpg> I'll do " High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks"
[15:40:10] <Bytram> "Destiny's children are those whose work and pleasure are one." -- Winston Curchill
[15:39:48] <chromas> Excellen ttitle there
[15:39:25] <mrpg> hmmm
[15:39:17] <Bytram> it's not work... if you enjoy it!
[15:39:16] * mrpg realizes he does work for free here
[15:39:13] <mrpg> that's good
[15:39:07] <exec> └─ 13Space radiation more hazardous: Implication sfor astronauts and satellites -- ScienceDaily
[15:39:05] <upstart> ^ 03Space radiation more hazardous: Implication sfor astronauts and satellites -- ScienceDaily
[15:39:04] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[15:38:57] <chromas> You get paid in experience and exposure :D :D
[15:38:26] <mrpg> YOU choose to work for free! who does that?!?!?! Do I?
[15:37:55] <mrpg> But it's true, it's going to attract bad edits
[15:37:50] * chromas puts a bird on it
[15:37:23] <mrpg> put a firewall on it.
[15:37:19] <mrpg> oh woe is me , nobody informed us :-( if you dont want it there take it down.
[15:36:59] <mrpg> "YouTube Did Not Inform Wikipedia of Plan to Debunk Conspiracies" - ready
[15:36:54] <mrpg> I'm gonna do YouTube Did Not Inform Wikipedia of Plan to Debunk Conspiracies
[15:36:39] -!- mode/#editorial [+v mrpg] by Hephaestus
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[15:18:42] <Bytram> k
[15:18:38] <fyngyrz> well, let's mosey on over ther, then, shall we?
[15:18:15] <fyngyrz> k
[15:17:59] <Bytram> we are, by far, not the first nor, I suspect, the last. =)
[15:17:38] <Bytram> should prolly have taken it to a pm or #Soylent... OTOH, it happens, so don't worry too much about it
[15:17:04] <Bytram> ooops
[15:16:42] <fyngyrz> I guess I should ask - is it appropriate to fill this channel with social blather? As in, non-editorial stuff?
[15:12:27] * Bytram is taking a quick look at craigslist
[15:09:41] <Bytram> which reminds me... brb
[15:09:25] <fyngyrz> yeah
[15:09:24] <fyngyrz> lol
[15:09:20] * Bytram gets bucket to capture drool
[15:09:16] <fyngyrz> was about $800 IIRC
[15:09:05] <fyngyrz> it's really very nice
[15:08:57] <fyngyrz> I have a 60" one as the 2nd monitor in the theater
[15:08:55] * Bytram HAS noticed... keeps drooling
[15:08:44] <fyngyrz> well, they're dropping in price very fast
[15:08:43] <Bytram> prolly at least 30", I'm guessing
[15:08:23] * Bytram would love to have a 4k display
[15:08:21] <fyngyrz> That's what I use here
[15:08:05] <Bytram> I've got a 1920x1200 monitor at home, and even that is starting to feel small and cluttered
[15:07:12] <exec> <Bytram> is dreaming of getting a new rig where I can run linux native -- budget limitations -- and now spectre/meltdown and these new ryzen issues... ugh
[15:07:10] <Bytram> s/nw/nd/
[15:06:56] * Bytram is dreaming of getting a new rig where I can run linux native -- budget limitations -- anw now spectre/meltdown and these new ryzen issues... ugh
[15:06:31] <fyngyrz> I tend to write what I really need
[15:06:12] <fyngyrz> likewise
[15:05:54] <exec> <Bytram> has a gazillion batch programs and little one-off utilities that he's been using for decades
[15:05:52] <Bytram> s/tht/that/
[15:05:43] * Bytram has a gazillion batch programs and little one-off utilities tht he's been using for decades
[15:05:16] <Bytram> if you wanted to do something they did not forsee... well, good luck
[15:05:15] <fyngyrz> I love the mac pros, but I kind of despise Apple
[15:05:03] <fyngyrz> I understand
[15:04:51] * Bytram has never been enamored of Apple products... felt too constricted
[15:04:19] <fyngyrz> than osx, I mean
[15:04:15] <fyngyrz> used Mac Pros like this one are very good bargains, if you're into macs. Or you can put something else on them, of course
[15:04:02] <Bytram> I suspect you would not be the only one
[15:03:48] <fyngyrz> If Apple comes through, they'll take a chunk of my soul for a new Mac Pro
[15:03:45] <Bytram> what a deal!
[15:03:39] * Bytram has a donated core 2 duo dell laptop 6GB RAM and 500GB WD black hard disk
[15:03:17] <fyngyrz> was $1500 on EBay. :)
[15:02:51] * Bytram drools
[15:02:42] <fyngyrz> this machine is a bit old, but it's reasonably hefty. 12/24 cores, 3 GHz, 64gb ram
[15:02:35] <upstart> ^ 03Apple WWDC 2018: what we want to see | TechRadar
[15:02:30] <MrPlow> https://www.techradar.com - "1 day ago ... The Apple WWDC 2018 date is officially set for June 4th to the 8th, right in line with expectations. And, though it's still months away, it's already highly anticipated to include big announcements. For developers, it offers a chance to get an idea of what they'll be working with in the coming year, so they can ..."
[15:02:29] <Bytram> #g Apple WWDC 2018
[15:02:09] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:02:02] <fyngyrz> Also, Apple keeps promising to do a new Mac Pro this year, with the mistakes of that awful "trashcan" addressed somehow, so I'm trying to hold out until I see what that's about
[15:01:35] <Bytram> imagine having really hi-res VR goggles where you could create virtual monitors of any size and move 'em around as needed =)
[15:01:09] <fyngyrz> (could run)
[15:01:01] <fyngyrz> I do need more screen space. Hey, and then I could an IRC client. :)
[15:00:40] <Bytram> yowza!
[15:00:29] <fyngyrz> I've been considering six. I've got them, and the video card, but my desk space would need rejiggered
[15:00:13] <Bytram> if that's the biggest problem I have today, then things are actually pretty good.
[14:59:46] <fyngyrz> yeah, I don't mind
[14:59:44] * Bytram is jealous of 4 monitors
[14:59:35] <Bytram> nothing is coming to mind atm about the bouncer stuff... looks like the IRC window and the site logs is the best option atm
[14:58:55] <Bytram> anyway...
[14:58:46] * Bytram hopes to never have to go through something like that ever again
[14:58:14] <Bytram> appreciate that
[14:58:02] <fyngyrz> Glad it worked out that way for you
[14:57:41] <Bytram> lemons / lemonade... yano?
[14:57:26] <fyngyrz> well, that's something, eh?
[14:56:48] * Bytram chalks it up to a lesson in life that helps him to see a part of others' lives in ways who could never have before imagined
[14:56:25] <fyngyrz> (US legal system)
[14:56:19] <fyngyrz> at this point, I don't trust a conviction to mean what it's supposed to mean. The whole system is corrupt as hell
[14:55:58] * Bytram is thankful there was a judge who could see through things and was able to mitigate the impact to just a misdemeanor
[14:55:26] <fyngyrz> sorry to hear it
[14:54:52] * Bytram knows more about this than he wishes he did
[14:54:31] <fyngyrz> they being the prosecution
[14:54:21] <fyngyrz> and they know it damned well
[14:54:07] <fyngyrz> true dat
[14:53:44] <exec> <Bytram> lessee... DA has a whole staff behind him or her... I have a public defender... what are my chances that I will win out? Better cut my losses.
[14:53:42] <Bytram> s/him/him or her/
[14:53:29] <Bytram> lessee... DA has a whole staff behind him... I have a public defender... what are my chances that I will win out? Better cut my losses.
[14:53:23] <fyngyrz> which will be my first comment if that story posts. :)
[14:52:16] <fyngyrz> "People offered plea bargains are more likely to plead guilty to crimes they didn't commit"
[14:52:11] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[14:51:41] <exec> └─ 13Teenagers more likely to plead guilty to crimes they didn't commit
[14:51:38] <Bytram> ~submit https://phys.org
[14:50:59] <Bender> karma - fyngyrz: 2
[14:50:59] <Bytram> fyngyrz++
[14:50:52] <fyngyrz> red cape and all
[14:50:45] <fyngyrz> sometimes it feels like 'ole'
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[14:50:24] <Bytram> k
[14:50:21] <fyngyrz> either/both
[14:50:15] <Bytram> or is that 'oi!'
[14:49:55] <Bytram> oy!
[14:49:53] * Bytram has some (limited) privs, but mostly to be able to do necessary things when guided by others when the need arises
[14:49:42] <fyngyrz> I have sixteen applications running right now on four monitors. That's about my mental limit
[14:49:17] * Bytram is quite the noob when it comes to IRC
[14:48:59] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:48:52] <fyngyrz> no. As I said, too many windows already
[14:48:42] <Bytram> it may not be supported, atm, but have you tried the version of HexChat for the mac?
[14:48:07] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:47:46] <Bytram> yays!
[14:47:41] <fyngyrz> yes
[14:47:37] <fyngyrz> or at least, doesn't look like it, very line you quoted
[14:47:35] <Bytram> are you registered with nickserv?
[14:47:27] <Bytram> okaaaay
[14:47:16] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:47:07] <fyngyrz> according to the docs, doesn't work with the web interface
[14:46:47] <Bytram> key line before you do anything with it: "Assumptions at this point are that you have a SoylentNews IRC nick, have it registered with nickserv, have an irc client (rather than using the web interface) and are SN staff.. "
[14:46:17] <Bytram> k
[14:45:52] <fyngyrz> looking
[14:45:22] <exec> └─ 13ZNC - SoylentNews
[14:45:20] <upstart> ^ 03ZNC - SoylentNews
[14:45:19] <Bytram> ahh, found it: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[14:44:56] <Bytram> perfect is the enemy of the good
[14:44:45] <Bytram> I suppose. It is generally available on all the platforms that people use, or a viable alternative exists (web interface)
[14:43:59] <fyngyrz> Basically... inertia, then
[14:43:38] <Bytram> there were a couple of other things around at the outset -- some kind of BB thingy IIRC but that got dropped. I think iRC was a LCD that gained a foothold and there is many years' stuff filed away from it
[14:43:33] <fyngyrz> IRC reminds me of playing Adventure on my 6809 emulator. :)
[14:42:52] <fyngyrz> free, open source, etc
[14:42:24] <fyngyrz> then there's no issue with lookback, etc
[14:42:08] <fyngyrz> I wonder why you folks have not moved on to something more modern and capable, similar to Slack or Ryver, but locally hosted? There are some really good ones, like rocket.chat, that bring up modern features, allow all kinds of addons like the commands you have here
[14:40:41] <Bytram> well, yes, but not as convenient
[14:40:32] <Bytram> I was one of the earlier ones to get set up and Deucalion walked me through the setup... at about 0230 one morning... I just followed directions as given and somehow it worked out
[14:40:09] <fyngyrz> I can see the logs. Is that not sufficient?
[14:39:36] <Bytram> there should be something on the site wiki about how to set it up
[14:39:23] <Bytram> see Deucalion for info on that
[14:39:16] <Bytram> fyngyrz: at some point, it would be good if we could get you set up with a 'bouncer' (ZNC); basically it's a MITM that queues up channels while you are away and lets you scroll back to see what has happened in the interim
[14:37:39] <exec> └─ 13SOMEBODY TOUCHA MY SPAGHET (Full Version) - YouTube
[14:37:38] <upstart> ^ 03SOMEBODY TOUCHA MY SPAGHET (Full Version) - YouTube
[14:37:37] <takyon_> https://www.youtube.com
[14:36:44] <fyngyrz> menu is contextually linked to the app last or currently active on that display
[14:36:17] <fyngyrz> they each get the menu
[14:35:56] <chromas> Do they each get the menu or is it only on one screen?
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[14:35:41] <fyngyrz> lol nm
[14:35:30] <fyngyrz> s/winfows/windows/
[14:35:16] <fyngyrz> Have four monitors full of windfows
[14:34:59] <fyngyrz> I am running a _lot_ of stuff
[14:34:44] <fyngyrz> I prefer the web client if I can manage to stay with it. More windows I don't need
[14:33:53] <chromas> I think they're mac-only even
[14:33:45] <chromas> I don't have a mac but there's limechat and textual
[14:32:15] * Bender geeft een flesje hoegaarden aan Loggie
[14:32:15] <chromas> !bier Loggie
[14:32:15] <chromas> Plus you can do this
[14:32:01] <fyngyrz> okay, I registered with nickserv
[14:31:45] <fyngyrz> hexchat isn't supported on the mac any longer
[14:30:07] <chromas> It's not mandatory but you'd get the + and have access to the secret channels where we laugh at the proles
[14:29:51] <takyon> I use web IRC when I login from somewhere else
[14:29:35] <takyon> I found HexChat easier to use. once configured I just have to open it and it handles login and backscroll
[14:28:27] <exec> <fyngyrz> I see some verbiage about registration. Will look at that
[14:28:25] <fyngyrz> s/ee/see/
[14:28:18] <fyngyrz> I ee some verbiage about registration. Will look at that
[14:27:40] <fyngyrz> ...and my neurons have all fallen over
[14:27:19] <fyngyrz> I used to know some things, but it's been many years
[14:26:59] * fyngyrz not very familiar with IRC
[14:26:48] <fyngyrz> I don't think I have a password on IRC?
[14:26:33] <fyngyrz> I'm using the web IRC client at soylent
[14:26:30] <chromas> If you login with your password then you get the perks
[14:26:13] <chromas> You should have voice (and a fancy vhost) but you're not identified with nickserv
[14:26:08] * fyngyrz it's very dark in this rabbit hole
[14:24:21] <chromas> Which is mostly used for status, but also if the channel is set to Moderated, then only those with Voice can talk
[14:24:00] <fyngyrz> okay (goes down rabbit hole) what does "Voiced" mean?
[14:23:42] <chromas> fyngyrz: + means Voiced
[14:23:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, MrPlow's excuse is i don't give enough of a damn to fix it.
[14:22:41] <fyngyrz> What does the + mean by your usernames?
[14:21:40] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:21:37] <Bytram> when I saw that it *could* display the title for the page, gave me the idea to resumit the story
[14:21:20] <chromas> That's no excuse for MrPlow though
[14:21:09] <Bytram> looks like it. :/
[14:20:59] <chromas> Does exec just dislike the extra text?
[14:20:54] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[14:20:29] * fyngyrz hands ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ to TheMightyBuzzard
[14:20:24] <exec> └─ 13High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks
[14:20:20] <Bytram> ~submit https://phys.org
[14:20:17] * upstart should add a submit command
[14:20:03] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:19:36] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[14:19:13] <exec> └─ 13High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks
[14:19:12] <upstart> ^ 03High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks
[14:19:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: why your bot cannot see a title on: https://phys.org
[14:19:09] <chromas> High Number of News Sites Unable to Title Caps; Some Use CSS to Make All Caps Though
[14:18:24] <fyngyrz> :)
[14:18:04] <fyngyrz> "High Number of Adults Unable to Do Basic Mathematical Tasks"
[14:17:42] * MrPlow smakes bots upside the head with a cybernuke
[14:17:42] <chromas> #smake bots
[14:17:35] <chromas> Plus there're several meta tags with title
[14:17:28] <Bytram> :(
[14:17:08] <Bytram> <title>High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks</title>
[14:17:05] <Bytram> interesting... this is what I see when I do a 'view source' on that story:
[14:15:46] <Bytram> fyngyrz: that was my experience, as well... that duck may look calm paddling across a pond, but those feet are churning like crazy just to make any progress at all
[14:15:05] <Bytram> takyon: I whole-heartedly agree! I am amazed at how many stories you push out in a day!
[14:14:58] <fyngyrz> lol
[14:14:45] <takyon> High number of bots unable to do basic submission tasks
[14:14:42] <Bytram> feh
[14:14:36] <exec> └─ 13High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks
[14:14:35] <exec> error: title not found or empty
[14:14:33] <Bytram> ~submit https://phys.org from the math is not THAT hard dept
[14:14:25] * MrPlow smakes MrPlow upside the head with a special snowflake
[14:14:25] <Bytram> #smake MrPlow
[14:14:21] <exec> └─ 13High number of adults unable to do basic mathematical tasks
[14:14:19] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[14:14:19] <Bytram> #submit https://phys.org from the math is not THAT hard dept
[14:13:46] <takyon> submiting is teh hardest job
[14:13:44] <chromas> Use ~submit in private to exec so nobody knows the story came from you and then you can edit your own submissions :)
[14:13:38] <exec> <fyngyrz> I had no idea you guys worked as hard as you do on this stuff
[14:13:36] <fyngyrz> s/tuff/stuff/
[14:13:23] <fyngyrz> I had no idea you guys worked as hard as you do on this tuff
[14:13:11] <fyngyrz> When I was offered the opportunity to do editing, I had in mind catching some of the errors I saw in the posted stories in order to try to make the site look a little better
[14:12:15] <Bytram> oh, yup. nod nod
[14:12:10] <Bytram> also, never hurts to submit a story or two, too
[14:12:01] <fyngyrz> Another is comfort - trying to watch and learn
[14:11:49] <fyngyrz> One is time. Right now, life is getting in my bloody way
[14:11:43] <Bytram> is fine
[14:11:26] <fyngyrz> At this point, for a couple reasons, I'm sticking with seconding (and thirding, etc.) other people's work.
[14:11:14] * Bytram does not use the soylentnews 'automation' -- all plain vanilla for me
[14:10:36] <Bytram> chromas: fyngyrz: if you are not already aware, trey: /join #rss-bot to see a feed of stories that might be a good submission to the site.
[14:10:33] <fyngyrz> That's a very careful implementation of the USG standard
[14:10:11] <fyngyrz> [capt your title verbiage] in the bottom box, then press Test
[14:09:58] <fyngyrz> just enter:
[14:09:54] <Bytram> we have a guide for our site, but it may take me a couple minutes to find it... hold on
[14:09:51] <upstart> ^ 03aa_macro syntax / display
[14:09:51] <fyngyrz> http://ourtimelines.com
[14:09:33] <fyngyrz> You can try here:
[14:09:31] * Bytram is not familiar with that one
[14:09:15] <fyngyrz> I use the GPO (USG) standard
[14:08:37] <Bytram> I'm not arguing, mind you, this is an area that I am still not entirely comfortable, and am open to anything that helps clarify
[14:08:28] <chromas> Most Titles Not in Title Grammar
[14:07:16] <Bender> karma - chromas: 15
[14:07:16] <Bytram> chromas++
[14:07:10] <chromas> Most titles aren't in title grammar anymore either.
[14:07:10] <Bytram> which standard are you referring to?
[14:06:43] <Bytram> but 'so much' ties together... so... capitalize it anyway?
[14:06:39] <fyngyrz> That's not how titlecase capitalization works. There's a standard.
[14:06:21] <Bytram> cause 'so' is so short,
[14:06:15] <fyngyrz> I try not to involve myself with regex, frankly. Strikes me as the hard way to do almost anything.
[14:06:10] <Bytram> Game Developer Embraces Modding Community so Much They Made Those Guys' Work an Official Release
[14:06:04] <Bytram> this is a bit tricky -- elements of preferences and style... what are the KEY words that convey the meaning/context of the story?
[14:05:43] <chromas> Now can you change it with a regex? :D
[14:05:08] <fyngyrz> "Game Developer Embraces Modding Community So Much They Made Those Guys' Work an Official Release - Soylentnews"
[14:04:54] * chromas lazies
[14:04:51] <chromas> I meant to fix that but I didn't want to update it again just for one fix
[14:04:07] <fyngyrz> it's [capt the stoey headline] - makes it super easy
[14:04:07] <Bytram> and see if it would offer different capitalization
[14:03:51] <exec> └─ 13Game Developer Embraces Modding Community So Much They Made Those Guys' Work An Official Release - SoylentNews
[14:03:50] <upstart> ^ 03Game Developer Embraces Modding Community So Much They Made Those Guys' Work An Official Release - SoylentNews
[14:03:48] <Bytram> try loading: https://soylentnews.org
[14:03:35] <Bytram> k
[14:03:23] <fyngyrz> I use my macro language to do that according to the US spec
[14:02:52] <Bytram> for example, there is a story on the story list page which has a title with 'little words' still in caps... that could be fixed. which one am I talking about?
[14:02:07] <fyngyrz> that's what I thought
[14:01:53] <Bytram> yay!
[14:01:50] <fyngyrz> it posted that way, so I guess it was okay. :)
[14:01:42] <fyngyrz> Yeah, I did one the other day, had a turn of phrase I'd never even seen before, so I changed it
[14:01:36] <Bytram> after a while, we all et afflicted by 'word soup'
[14:01:20] <Bytram> btw, just because a story is green does not mean it cannot be 3rded...
[14:01:10] <Bytram> correct
[14:01:00] <fyngyrz> not much to that one - mostly quote, and we don't muck with quotes unless they're excessive or something, yes?
[14:00:13] * Bytram hangs out
[14:00:06] <fyngyrz> okay, hang on
[13:59:58] <Bytram> what he said
[13:59:55] <fyngyrz> mmm
[13:59:51] <chromas> Yellows are yours
[13:59:51] <fyngyrz> I do?
[13:59:48] <chromas> You want reds
[13:59:42] <fyngyrz> I see a red one, no yellow
[13:59:21] <Bytram> =)
[13:59:19] <Bytram> fyngyrz: look now
[13:59:13] <fyngyrz> which phone?
[13:59:04] * Bytram got a new phone in early jan and is still trying to get up to speed with it.
[13:59:00] <fyngyrz> I have yet to catch one in "yellow" where I could second it
[13:58:37] <fyngyrz> in between uploads to it, checked all of today's upcoming posts, looked fine
[13:57:36] <fyngyrz> futzing with new phone this morning. Moving images and notes and the like over to it. New phones are a big pushup for me
[13:57:18] <chromas> pr0n
[13:57:13] <chromas> Might be like the chronic, but porn
[13:56:35] <fyngyrz> same
[13:56:21] <Bytram> well, that helped a 'lot'
[13:56:07] <upstart> ^ 03Pronic In-die Solutions - Accueil ( http://pronic.com )
[13:56:05] <MrPlow> http://pronic.com - "Pronic est le spécialiste mondial du taraudage et de l'insertion sous presse, basé à Marignier (Haute-Savoie). Retrouvez l'ensemble de nos solutions et nos services pour tout vos travaux d'insertion ou de taraudage."
[13:56:05] <Bytram> #g pronic
[13:55:28] <fyngyrz> lol
[13:55:24] * exec ceremoniously hangs a trigger warning sign about a wagon of thorns on fyngyrz
[13:55:22] <Bytram> ~gday fyngyrz
[13:53:53] * exec illegitimately stuffs a stein of the pronic into Bytram
[13:53:51] <fyngyrz> ~gday Bytram
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[13:38:22] * Bytram waves hellow to fyngyrz
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[13:31:10] <Bytram> cmn32480: 5000? Not yet, but I am still working at it. =)
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[03:16:46] <cmn32480> says the guy push 5000 stories... jebers
[03:14:29] * cmn32480 shurgs
[03:14:28] <Bytram> ciao for now
[03:14:17] <Bytram> cmn32480: that should put you at the 2950 mark and thensome
[03:13:54] <Bytram> yays!
[03:13:53] <cmn32480> night
[03:13:49] <cmn32480> *noon
[03:13:46] <cmn32480> good through oon
[03:13:43] <Bytram> laterz
[03:13:40] <Bytram> ;)
[03:13:38] <Bytram> yes, son
[03:13:36] <Bytram> nodnod
[03:13:32] <Bytram> don't mkae me .kick you!
[03:13:32] <cmn32480> you do the same
[03:13:29] <cmn32480> yes dad
[03:13:24] * cmn32480 makes a note that he can now blame chromas officially
[03:13:20] <Bytram> hey, it is late... get yer butt to bed
[03:12:59] <Bytram> I expect fyn will not be far behind
[03:12:43] <Bytram> chromas is up and going on prod; mostly starting off with 2nding duties
[03:12:28] <Bytram> not sure where his training stands
[03:12:18] <cmn32480> he'll regret it.. just liek the rest of us
[03:12:05] <Bytram> he said yes. !!
[03:12:01] <Bytram> replied that is how I got starteed as an editor.... interested?
[03:11:52] <cmn32480> then strap on a staff role...
[03:11:44] <Bytram> wasn't the first he'd seen
[03:11:36] <Bytram> he's made some kinda comment about a mistake in a story
[03:11:27] * cmn32480 musta missed that one
[03:11:18] <Bytram> yuppers
[03:11:13] <cmn32480> fyngyrz?
[03:11:10] <Bytram> and fnord666 has been pushing out stories like crazy
[03:10:55] <Bytram> mrpg has been a solid presence
[03:10:47] <Bytram> well, chromas and fyngyrz look to be coming along nicely
[03:10:29] <Bytram> sack time for me, too
[03:10:23] <cmn32480> i try to help when I can... and I know our ransk are currently decimated
[03:10:20] <Bytram> I'm off tomorrow, so should be able to stay on top of things at the start of the day
[03:09:48] <Bytram> really appreciate your pushing out stories
[03:09:29] <Bytram> not really, but it seemed apropos
[03:09:14] * cmn32480 looks at the time and decideds to finsih this story and sack out
[03:09:10] <Bytram> I hates spiders!
[03:08:59] * exec cohesively vomits a vial of jesus juice on cmn32480
[03:08:57] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:08:47] * exec unnecessarily shoves a udp packet of spiders in bytram
[03:08:45] <cmn32480> ~gnight bytram
[03:08:40] <cmn32480> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[03:08:26] <Bytram> I have a very nice place to stay tonight, an old kitty that has finally taken aliking to me, and I just finished off a apple caramel pie
[03:07:55] <cmn32480> and it'll never tell you.. .servent!
[03:07:42] <cmn32480> but the kitty appreciates it...
[03:07:36] <Bytram> but
[03:07:35] <cmn32480> I bet
[03:07:32] * Bytram is sore
[03:07:21] <Bytram> took me about 1 1/2 hrs with a b ig two-stage snowthrower to clear things out
[03:06:58] <Bytram> heh
[03:06:55] <Bytram> figured it should not be too bad in the AM
[03:06:45] <cmn32480> it was 73 and Sunny here today
[03:06:45] <Bytram> which he did last night around 8pm or so
[03:06:37] <Bytram> my sis had arranged for a plow guy to come over
[03:06:27] <Bytram> oh, and we got about 18" of heavy snow out of the last storm
[03:06:19] <cmn32480> sorry to hear that
[03:06:16] <cmn32480> ewwww
[03:06:08] <Bytram> had the late shift at work; our dept was downsized, so I got to cover the whole depot from 4pm until close
[03:05:44] <cmn32480> nah... that'd be the personal flotation devices for the pool
[03:05:38] * Bytram is knackered
[03:05:17] <Bytram> Hello, Dolly!
[03:04:52] <cmn32480> they giving like a furniture dolly or something to help you get around ?
[03:04:47] <Bytram> I fear if I attempt that, then the geriatric killer kitty will attempt an attack on my toes
[03:04:29] <cmn32480> or do you ahve to walk in the front door and immediately get on your butt?
[03:04:16] <cmn32480> are you allowed to stand too?
[03:03:57] * Bytram places an order for an ACME super magnet
[03:03:54] <cmn32480> but no clip clops (or the massive headache they cause) for the remainder fo the trip
[03:03:43] <Bytram> ouch!!!!!
[03:03:38] <Bytram> so, I am at my seester's place house sitting for the next 10 or so days.
[03:03:26] <cmn32480> had blisters...
[03:03:19] <cmn32480> I went out at lunch the first day and bought me a real nice pair of steel toed boots
[03:03:04] <Bytram> ruh roh
[03:02:56] <cmn32480> custoemr failed ot mention that they were required even after I asked about PPE
[03:02:50] * Bytram holds nose
[03:02:42] <Bytram> lol
[03:02:38] <cmn32480> I've done it with steel toed boots
[03:02:36] <Bytram> I kinda liked the choices I'd made and wanted to keep 'em
[03:02:23] <cmn32480> they can have 'em
[03:02:15] <Bytram> figured if they paid for 'em, they'd want 'em back
[03:01:57] <Bytram> decided against it in the end
[03:01:56] <cmn32480> it sucks... i usually do
[03:01:47] * Bytram was debating whether or not to submit them as part of my trip reimbursement
[03:01:30] <cmn32480> yeah
[03:01:29] <cmn32480> lol
[03:01:17] <Bytram> off to the store for another shirt, pants, shorts, and socks
[03:00:59] <Bytram> which i promptly blew up, so got to stay another day
[03:00:41] <cmn32480> oops!
[03:00:40] <Bytram> so they had me stay over while they coded the fixes and then I could test THOSE
[03:00:19] <Bytram> well, I did such a good job finding bugs, that they could not come up with the fixes while I was there
[02:59:53] <Bytram> was supposed to go down, get the testing done, and head back that night...
[02:59:32] <cmn32480> done taht
[02:59:28] <cmn32480> walmart for clean undies!
[02:59:14] <cmn32480> apparently I forgot them for at least 3 days worht of this trip
[02:59:14] <Bytram> i was on a one-day business trip that ended up taking three days.
[02:58:48] <cmn32480> had to go to Walmart to get clean socks
[02:58:45] <Bytram> howso?
[02:58:39] <cmn32480> fubar'd my luggage when I put stuff together...
[02:58:37] <Bytram> sorry tio hear that
[02:58:25] <cmn32480> long
[02:58:20] <Bytram> how's your trip going?
[02:58:18] <cmn32480> I'm an editor.. doing shit correctly and right has NO PLACE IN THIS JOB!
[02:58:01] <Bytram> LOL!
[02:57:44] <cmn32480> I am posting stories after all
[02:57:39] <cmn32480> prollyl inside hte next 10 minutes
[02:57:29] <Bytram> ;)
[02:57:23] <Bytram> don't worry any, you'll be wrong again, too
[02:57:00] <Bytram> about 14 hrs ago in this channel "<janrinok> I won't be doing much on here today - I'm preparing for my op at early o'clock tomorrow morning."
[02:56:06] <cmn32480> I thought it was today... but I've been wrong before
[02:56:06] <Bytram> ;)
[02:56:01] <Bytram> gnawed gnawed
[02:55:51] <cmn32480> you meant JR.. not my sammich
[02:55:46] <cmn32480> oh
[02:55:41] <cmn32480> rats... was hoping I was allowed to eat
[02:55:39] <Bytram> thought he was going in tomorrow am?
[02:55:29] <Bytram> cmn32480: not yet
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[02:47:08] <cmn32480> damnit... now I is hungry
[02:46:51] * MrPlow whips up a BLT sammich for cmn32480
[02:46:51] <cmn32480> #sammich
[02:46:45] <MrPlow> chromas, is that you? stop being a wiseass.
[02:46:45] <cmn32480> #roll 178600d3546
[02:46:33] <MrPlow> pass 1: 12730
[02:46:33] <cmn32480> #roll 5d3546
[02:46:27] <MrPlow> Roll the dice. #roll 3d6 throws=6
[02:46:27] <cmn32480> #roll 5d 3546
[02:23:03] * cmn32480 has a mental filing cabinet that looks like a garbage dump. dig long enough adn you might find nearly anything
[02:22:34] <cmn32480> bytram - heard anythign from JR?
[02:21:14] * Bytram makes a mental note of it.
[02:21:04] <Bytram> So THAT is how it happens! It should automatically replace a blanked-out name field w/ Anonymous Coward... would make less work for us.
[01:54:30] <cmn32480> it allows nothing.. or anything
[01:54:19] <cmn32480> nope
[01:54:13] <chromas> Ah. I assumed it didn't allow that
[01:53:36] <exec> └─ 13Astro Spiral: Revisiting the greatest car stunt of all time: SoylentNews Submission
[01:53:33] <upstart> ^ 03Astro Spiral: Revisiting the greatest car stunt of all time: SoylentNews Submission
[01:53:32] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[01:53:32] <cmn32480> assuming you mean this one
[01:53:12] <cmn32480> all that means is that the submitter cleared the box for who submitted the article
[01:52:36] <cmn32480> I read "useless submissions" the first time
[01:52:20] <cmn32480> now I had to read that twice...
[01:52:14] <cmn32480> see
[01:52:01] <chromas> Where do userless submissions come from?
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