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[01:51:12] <mrpg> I have an idea for a poll, I 'll submit it.
[01:56:06] <mrpg> ready bye
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[01:57:40] * chromas pushes the poll without consulting other editors :)
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[14:10:54] * fyngyrz plonk
[14:12:57] <Bytram> plink
[14:13:12] * Bytram thinks we should really do something about the tuning of this piano
[14:22:04] <fyngyrz> You're just stringing me along
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[14:28:28] <janrinok> bytram - you sleeping or lurking?
[14:28:28] <fyngyrz> Morning
[14:28:43] <janrinok> ~gday fyngyrz - I was looking for you over the weekend
[14:28:45] * exec brazenly passes a chest of skittles to fyngyrz
[14:29:11] <fyngyrz> Saw that - was trying to be around, but, life, sigh
[14:29:38] <janrinok> I understand - it is often the same for me too
[14:30:03] <fyngyrz> we're having some fairly annoying weather
[14:30:38] <fyngyrz> this is high desert, we don't usually get a lot of moisture at once, but we've had nearly a foot of snow and it's screwing everything up
[14:31:18] <janrinok> out snow lasted about 24 hours locally, but has had serious effects elsewhere in Europe
[14:31:44] <janrinok> ~weather
[14:31:46] <exec> 10Paimpol, France - currently 51°F / 11°C, mostly cloudy, wind S at 12 mph, humidity 83% - Monday cloudy (38°F:53°F / 3°C:12°C), Tuesday rain (41°F:50°F / 5°C:10°C), Wednesday scattered showers (41°F:48°F / 5°C:9°C), Thursday showers (42°F:49°F / 6°C:9°C)
[14:31:51] <fyngyrz> I tell people: You don't like the weather here? Don't worry, it doesn't like you, either
[14:31:56] <janrinok> lol
[14:33:05] * Bytram is writing up an email to a user re: subscription renewal intention -- looks like we may not have entirely squashed that bug.
[14:34:07] <janrinok> ~gday Bytram - I thought that you might still be 'resting'
[14:34:09] * exec overratedly pairs a jar jar of Johnny Moo Milk Drops with Bytram
[14:34:22] <Bytram> milk drops? not bad
[14:34:25] <Bytram> ~gday janrinok
[14:34:26] * exec carelessly derives a bribe of sobriety from janrinok
[14:34:35] <janrinok> I don't even pretend to understand my greeting to you
[14:34:46] <Bytram> well, would you drink to that?
[14:34:52] <janrinok> .. and you stand no chance in your request to me
[14:34:59] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:35:37] <janrinok> I've got to limit myself to 1 glass of wine per day - so I've bought a half-litre wine glass. Doc has no sense of humour!
[14:35:49] <Bytram> just a half-litre?
[14:35:58] <Bytram> ;)
[14:35:59] <janrinok> well, sometimes I cheat and have 2
[14:36:15] <Bytram> a 2-liter glass?
[14:36:38] * janrinok acknowledges that the truth is actually that I rarely drink nowadays, perhaps 2 beers per month
[14:37:27] <janrinok> If I could find a 2 litre wine glass I would buy it just to annoy the doc - she is very good but doesn't understand Brit humour
[14:37:39] <fyngyrz> Not a drinker here, either, other than a glass (one) wine with pasta once a week or so. Not enough brain cells to spare.
[14:37:42] * Bytram notes there is nothing wrong with that... one can live a full and productive and enjoyable life w/o alcohol
[14:38:02] <fyngyrz> I got over all that as a teenager
[14:38:13] <janrinok> I don't need brain cells, I rely on muscle memory when it comes to drinking ...
[14:38:25] <fyngyrz> Turns out, the world is plenty interesting without chemical assistance
[14:38:30] <Bytram> fyngyrz: what you said; I figure one of the key things that helps me get through life is my intellect, why would I intentionally do anything to disturb that.
[14:38:33] <janrinok> that it is
[14:38:37] <fyngyrz> yep
[14:38:37] <Bytram> Fnord666: 'zactly
[14:39:05] <janrinok> I can't depend on my intullict, entellict, brains
[14:39:33] * Bytram chuckles
[14:40:28] <janrinok> I might be late showing up tomorrow - I have appts with an anaesthetist and my cardiologist
[14:40:45] <janrinok> Operation planned on my throat on 15th of this month
[14:41:02] <fyngyrz> janrinok: https://www.amazon.com
[14:41:03] <upstart> ^ 03Amazon.com | 20 Inch Giant Clear Decorative Hand Blown Wine Glass Novelty Stemware / Champagne Magnum Chiller: Wine Glasses
[14:41:47] <janrinok> I'd better be getting my cheque book out then ....
[14:41:57] <fyngyrz> lol
[14:42:01] <fyngyrz> that's a lotta glass
[14:43:10] <Bytram> janrinok: please accept my very best wishes as to the result of the appointments. May they answer all the questions you may have, and provide answers to questions you did not even know you had! =)
[14:43:38] <janrinok> as long as they don't find problems that I didn't know I had I will be happy
[14:43:43] <fyngyrz> yes, best wishes
[14:44:06] <janrinok> old age sneaks up on you .... or so I have found
[14:44:10] <Bytram> seams like a positive attittude
[14:44:12] <fyngyrz> same
[14:45:44] <janrinok> fyngyrz, we need to get some training sorted out for you over the coming days
[14:46:17] <fyngyrz> Yep
[14:46:46] <fyngyrz> I was amused to see the story I edited post over on the main site with all the errors intact. :)
[14:47:04] <janrinok> oh, was that me?
[14:47:10] <fyngyrz> no idea
[14:48:43] <janrinok> what was the topic?
[14:48:59] <fyngyrz> sec
[14:49:13] * janrinok thought he had typed sex then ....
[14:51:59] <fyngyrz> https://soylentnews.org
[14:52:01] <upstart> ^ 03Third-Party Web Content is Unsafe, Including CSS. Don't Use It. - SoylentNews
[14:52:02] <exec> └─ 13Third-Party Web Content is Unsafe, Including CSS. Don't Use It. - SoylentNews
[14:52:22] <janrinok> I 2nd'ed that!
[14:52:45] <janrinok> so you are Canopic Jug?
[14:53:15] <Bytram> I think fyngyrz said he *edited* the story, not submitted it
[14:53:44] <fyngyrz> yes, here as part of the training. I fixed the errors on dev.... but of course that had no effect on the main site
[14:53:48] <janrinok> ah, I see what you mean. The one you edited on dev when it appeared on prod!
[14:53:52] <fyngyrz> yes
[14:54:20] <Bytram> Holy coincidence, Bat Man!
[14:54:44] <Bytram> janrinok: btw, got your admin to user msg... thank you!
[14:54:49] <janrinok> did you know that Batman is also the name of an airfield in Turkey?
[14:55:02] <janrinok> Bytram, np, you did the work!
[14:55:03] <fyngyrz> Batman and Robin after being run over by a steamroller: "Flatman and Ribbon"
[14:55:09] <Bytram> lol
[14:55:23] <janrinok> the problem with fyngyrz is that he fits in too well here
[14:56:09] <Bytram> never hurts to get some confirmation that one is on the right track... after a while I start to feel like Wyle E Coyote who has built up a head of steam and then suddenly finds he has run off the edge of a cliff.
[14:56:10] <fyngyrz> that's what she said
[14:56:28] <fyngyrz> You need you ACME parachute
[14:56:38] <fyngyrz> s/you/your/
[14:56:40] <exec> <fyngyrz> You need your ACME parachute
[14:56:44] <janrinok> fyngyrz is remembering his far distant past again
[14:56:57] <fyngyrz> "it's all I have"
[14:58:20] <janrinok> snap
[14:58:21] <Bytram> or, perchance, all that you can remember that you had?
[14:58:35] * Bytram will have to run shortly, expecting a phone call.
[14:58:45] <janrinok> don't you over tax my few remaining brain cells
[14:58:59] <janrinok> Bytram, start going now and you can walk
[14:59:06] <Bytram> lol!
[14:59:44] * Bytram finally thinks to check the story queue...
[14:59:47] <Bytram> janrinok++
[14:59:47] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 55
[15:00:14] <janrinok> surprised that my karma has got so high
[15:00:27] <fyngyrz> Young bull to old bull: "Let's run down the hill and screw one of those cows!" Old bull to young bull: "Let's walk down... and screw them all."
[15:00:44] <Bytram> at the rate he's going, it looks like Fnord666 will reach 2K stories in a couple weeks or so: https://soylentnews.org
[15:00:46] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[15:00:46] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[15:00:58] <janrinok> spotted that
[15:01:20] <Bytram> has been a really big help on the team!
[15:02:35] <janrinok> but if he keeps going at that rate he might have problems in a few months with burn-out. We need to get more people trained so that we can spread the load a little more
[15:02:58] <Bytram> oh, fwiw, I doubt after this long a time that we will ever forget the subject of the proposed poll in the submission queue. recommend we delete it so the number of story submission we have is closer to reality.
[15:03:03] <janrinok> but I sure as hell appreciate what he is doing
[15:03:12] <Bytram> my thoughts, exactly.
[15:03:28] <janrinok> yeah, delete it if you wish
[15:03:31] <Bytram> k
[15:04:16] <Bytram> Sorry, Zinho that we did not accept your poll suggestion... maybe if it had more choices?
[15:04:23] <janrinok> I deleted a handful an hour or two back. Some were just out of date, and others were not wanted
[15:04:36] <janrinok> Bytram, sounds good
[15:05:01] <Bytram> oh, wait... it is NOT like I remembered it!!! there's *7* choices!
[15:05:16] <janrinok> well we've all been making contributions...
[15:06:01] <Bytram> also, choices are much too long to fit in the narrow width of the pollbooth slashbox
[15:06:58] <Bytram> ugh. I'm torn, but can't think of a way to tighten up the choices so they would fit.
[15:07:07] <fyngyrz> is this something I can see?
[15:07:19] <Bytram> prolly?
[15:07:19] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[15:07:20] <upstart> ^ 03Which way do you hang your toilet paper? Explain why in comments. (Poll): SoylentNews Submission
[15:07:23] <exec> └─ 13Which way do you hang your toilet paper? Explain why in comments. (Poll): SoylentNews Submission
[15:07:40] <janrinok> yeah the first entry in the submissions list - just click on it
[15:07:44] <Bytram> oh, wait. that is on production.
[15:07:52] <Bytram> not on dev
[15:07:55] <janrinok> yup
[15:08:13] <fyngyrz> change: Parallel to floor and wall; dispensed from front
[15:08:24] <fyngyrz> to: |O,
[15:08:28] <fyngyrz> etc.
[15:08:47] <fyngyrz> a little more thought required, but it could probably work out
[15:09:00] <fyngyrz> |,O
[15:09:07] <Bytram> *sounds* good... not sure if we could cover (heh!) all the listed choices
[15:09:22] <fyngyrz> A tissue of lies!
[15:09:32] <janrinok> take another (s)wipe at it
[15:09:41] <fyngyrz> I can't, I'm wiped out
[15:09:59] <janrinok> i'm feeling all flushed now
[15:10:00] <fyngyrz> y'all need the ability to pop some graphics on there
[15:10:05] <Bytram> oh crap!
[15:10:07] <fyngyrz> I'm sure you can handle it
[15:10:20] <fyngyrz> Otherwise, I guess it'll just tank
[15:10:20] <Bytram> ok, really gtg.
[15:10:21] <janrinok> this is going down the pan
[15:10:25] <Bytram> have a great day everyone!
[15:10:27] <fyngyrz> no shit
[15:10:31] <janrinok> bye Bytram
[15:10:35] <fyngyrz> ~gday Bytam
[15:10:37] * exec presumably connects trousers full of burritos to Bytam
[15:10:40] <Bytram> ciao for now!
[15:10:44] <Bytram> lunch!
[15:10:46] <fyngyrz> (r)
[15:10:47] <janrinok> how appropriate!
[15:10:50] <Bytram> ~gday fyngyrz
[15:10:52] * exec cautiously hurls a dire ear of black man's radio at fyngyrz
[15:10:57] <janrinok> ~gday Bytram
[15:10:58] <fyngyrz> oh hey, nice
[15:10:59] * exec covertly evolves a dash of 4you are now breathing manually from Bytram
[15:11:17] * Bytram wants the hands-free breathing back!
[15:11:22] <Bytram> laters
[15:11:30] <janrinok> laters
[15:12:07] <janrinok> fyngyrz, the knack is to time your next comment to Bytram so that he feels compelled to answer it but it still slows him down
[15:13:44] <fyngyrz> ha
[15:17:54] <fyngyrz> Encode: in poll title, indicate p=parallel, o=orthogonal. That'll trim it a bit.
[15:18:12] <fyngyrz> f/b for front/back
[15:18:42] <fyngyrz> programmers will probably dig this. So to speak.
[15:19:21] <fyngyrz> Floor,wall=p; disp=f
[15:19:34] <fyngyrz> Was: Parallel to floor and wall; dispensed from front
[15:19:48] <fyngyrz> etc.
[15:21:33] <fyngyrz> Also, will probably confuse Ethanol-fueled, if he's fueled up, so there's that
[15:22:03] <fyngyrz> For him, it'd need to be $floor=$wall='p';
[15:22:11] * fyngyrz runs away
[15:22:34] <fyngyrz> or wait, no, I'm confused. That was The Mighty Buzzard
[15:22:38] <fyngyrz> yeah, nm
[15:22:51] * fyngyrz runs away faster
[15:28:56] * fyngyrz actually leaving
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[15:33:14] <janrinok> sorry - I was called away by the nurse- bye fyngyrz
[15:56:32] <Bytram> https://www.nytimes.com
[15:56:33] <upstart> ^ 03Is Loneliness a Health Epidemic? - The New York Times
[15:56:34] <exec> └─ 13Is Loneliness a Health Epidemic? - The New York Times
[15:56:47] <Bytram> #g "Only the Lonely" song
[15:56:48] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com - "Feb 16, 2011 ... Roy Orbison - Only The Lonely. ... I was born in the late 50s and grew up in the 60s. my Aunts and Uncles ''Raved'' about Elvis but I always preferred Roy Orbisons songs as I thought they were more heartfelt and .... Legend has it that Roy got to sing because he wrote a song for Elvis who turned it down."
[15:56:49] <upstart> ^ 03Roy Orbison - Only The Lonely - YouTube
[15:57:33] * Bytram seems to recall a female singer who had a song by the same name
[15:57:48] <Bytram> #g "Only the Lonely can play" song
[15:57:49] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com - "Mar 12, 2009 ... I still picture that day now but even though the feelings for the girl are long gone, when I hear this song its effect on me could be described as haunting, bittersweet nostalgia. ... I miss the 80's they had the best songs and MTV came out with the awesome videos.loved them.Things ... Only the lonely can play."
[15:57:50] <upstart> ^ 03The Motels - Only The Lonely - YouTube
[15:58:00] <Bytram> bingo!
[16:01:47] <janrinok> well done.
[16:01:58] <janrinok> time for me to go and cook
[16:02:47] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:02:50] <Bytram> laters!!
[16:03:01] * janrinok lurking
[16:06:36] <Bytram> looks to *me* that you are also working on your arthur bot. =)
[16:09:15] <Bytram> https://phys.org
[16:09:15] <upstart> ^ 03Massive astrophysical objects governed by subatomic equation
[16:09:17] <exec> └─ 13Massive astrophysical objects governed by subatomic equation
[16:09:33] <Bytram> https://phys.org
[16:09:34] <upstart> ^ 03Technique to see objects hidden around corners
[16:09:35] <exec> └─ 13Technique to see objects hidden around corners
[18:29:30] * janrinok is back
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[22:02:57] <Bytram> http://www.caltech.edu
[22:02:58] <upstart> ^ 03Massive Astrophysical Objects Governed by Subatomic Equation | Caltech
[22:03:00] <exec> └─ 13Massive Astrophysical Objects Governed by Subatomic Equation | Caltech
[22:03:08] <Bytram> http://dx.doi.org
[22:03:12] <exec> └─ 13Object moved
[22:13:46] <Bytram> https://www.cnet.com
[22:13:47] <upstart> ^ 03See SpaceX, Elon Musk rocket to a Falcon 9 milestone Monday - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[22:13:48] <exec> └─ 13See SpaceX, Elon Musk rocket to a Falcon 9 milestone Monday - CNET
[22:13:51] <Bytram> https://www.cnet.com
[22:13:51] <upstart> ^ 03See SpaceX, Elon Musk rocket to a Falcon 9 milestone Monday - CNET
[22:13:54] <exec> └─ 13See SpaceX, Elon Musk rocket to a Falcon 9 milestone Monday - CNET
[22:17:38] <Bytram> #g 50 year anniversary traditional gift
[22:17:38] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The names of some anniversaries provide guidance for appropriate or traditional gifts for the spouses to give each other; if there is a party these ... now common to most nations: 5th Wooden, 10th Tin, 15th Crystal, 20th China, 25th Silver, 30th Pearl, 40th Ruby, 50th Gold, 60th Diamond."
[22:17:39] <upstart> ^ 03Wedding anniversary - Wikipedia
[22:19:48] <Bytram> #G H.L. Menken defend liberty
[22:19:57] <Bytram> #g H.L. Menken defend liberty
[22:19:57] <MrPlow> http://www.quotationspage.com - "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956) ..."
[22:19:58] <upstart> ^ 03Quote Details: H. L. Mencken: The trouble with fighting... - The Quotations Page
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[22:59:17] -!- mode/#editorial [+v mrpg] by Hephaestus
[22:59:21] <mrpg> hello
[22:59:25] <Bytram> hello
[22:59:27] <mrpg> I'm gonna do " British Semiconductor Tech Ended Up In Chinese Naval Railgun "
[22:59:37] <chromas> When I go to 2nd the spacex story, it says the title matches what's "currently begin edited by martyb" but you're not listed at the bottom
[22:59:39] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:00:08] <mrpg> You hard at work, good to know :-)
[23:00:09] * Bytram pictures Wyle E Coyote with an ACME *super* magnet
[23:00:25] <Bytram> chromas: yeah, I saw you in the story and backed right out...
[23:00:32] <Bytram> I'd like to make a small change to the head line
[23:00:43] * chromas closes it
[23:01:08] <Bytram> just amoment
[23:01:37] <Bytram> new title: Spacex Rockets Toward 50th Falcon 9 Launch Tonight: Tues 2018-03-06 05:33 UTC (00:33 EST)
[23:01:44] * Bytram clicks update.
[23:01:50] <Bytram> chromas: all yours.
[23:01:59] <chromas> I just figured it was an artifact since it showed that earlier when I clicked it
[23:02:05] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:02:27] <Bytram> not the best system, and I can't claim that I fully understand when it finally decides I am done workoing on $foo
[23:02:37] <Bytram> s/ko/k/
[23:02:39] <exec> <Bytram> not the best system, and I can't claim that I fully understand when it finally decides I am done working on $foo
[23:03:09] <chromas> Needs version control. I suggest integrating git
[23:03:15] <chromas> With javascript
[23:03:24] <Bytram> so, I erron the side of caution and as soon as it tells me someone else is working on something that I *just* opened... I just close the tab out of an abundance of caution
[23:03:36] <Bytram> you forgot video chat and a mail client
[23:03:47] <Bytram> break time
[23:04:08] <Bytram> actually, if I want to catch tonight's launch, I should prolly think of an early bedtime, too.
[23:04:22] <Bytram> or, just resign myself to doing a D/L in the AM.
[23:04:27] <Bytram> prolly the latter.
[23:04:30] <Bytram> anyway, laters
[23:08:51] * chromas sees mrpg listed in the stories; backs out
[23:09:02] * chromas will pop in later
[23:09:13] <mrpg> I'm finishin gthe railgun one
[23:09:39] <chromas> Ah, okay. It shows you on spacex and western digital
[23:09:52] <chromas> Though I guess it'd do that even if you just peeped in on them
[23:09:55] <chromas> rehash--
[23:09:55] <Bender> karma - rehash: -1
[23:10:09] <mrpg> British Semiconductor Tech Ended Up In Chinese Naval Railgun - ready
[23:10:20] <mrpg> weird, I didnt touch those
[23:10:47] <chromas> Oh, nevermind. I didn't notice it shows all sessions at the bottom
[23:10:48] <mrpg> Yes, me too, when I see someone I back off just in case, and wait till later.
[23:10:53] <chromas> #smake chromas
[23:10:53] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a sac of walnuts
[23:11:12] <mrpg> That's why I like to come here to say what I'm doing
[23:11:38] <mrpg> I'll do "birth control pills"
[23:13:09] * chromas 2nds british semis
[23:13:43] <mrpg> good thanks
[23:16:38] <mrpg> No, I won't do it, interesting, there's science, but I don't see it. I'll pick something else
[23:18:47] <mrpg> I'll pick " Rare Mineral Discovered In Plants For First Time "
[23:25:53] <mrpg> rare mineral discovered - ready
[23:29:21] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[23:29:22] <upstart> ^ 03LTE security flaws could be used for spying, spreading chaos | Ars Technica ( https://arstechnica.com )
[23:29:24] <exec> └─ 13LTE security flaws could be used for spying, spreading chaos | Ars Technica
[23:39:40] <mrpg> #g quantum computing
[23:39:40] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Quantum computing is computing using quantum-mechanical phenomena, such as superposition and entanglement. A quantum computer is a device that performs quantum computing. They are different from binary digital electronic computers based on transistors. Whereas common digital computing requires that the data ..."
[23:39:41] <upstart> ^ 03Quantum computing - Wikipedia
[23:40:00] <mrpg> ?!?!?!?!
[23:40:19] <mrpg> #g guantum computing for dummies
[23:40:20] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com - "Mar 31, 2016 ... Quantum Computers Explained ! In this video, I provide a simple explanation and overview and also discuss the implications for artificial intelligence, self-..."
[23:40:21] <upstart> ^ 03Quantum Computing for Dummies : A Simple Explanation for Normal People - YouTube
[23:40:58] <mrpg> ok I'll watch it.
[23:49:25] <mrpg> hmm intersting.
[23:49:28] <mrpg> Alibaba Fires Up A Cloudy Quantum Computer - ready
[23:52:20] <mrpg> The video ends saying that a quantum computer can improve and reprogram itself so skynet will rise and kill us all. Ok.
[23:53:18] <mrpg> I'll do "Venomous Creatures Change Their Venom "
[23:59:28] <mrpg> Venomous Creatures Change Their Venom Recipe Often - Ready