#editorial | Logs for 2017-06-09
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[01:09:28] * Bytram starts 2nding stories in the queue
[01:13:16] <Bytram> only two more to go
[01:23:03] <Deucalion> Thanks Bytram
[01:23:19] <Bytram> np
[01:23:37] <Bytram> am struggling with how to remove 4 chars from a title. :/
[01:23:45] <Bytram> Musician’s hand injured after United Airlines supervisor wrestles away antique violin in baggage dispute
[01:24:09] <Bytram> the last 4 chars "pute" will not fir in the space provided
[01:25:53] <Bytram> s/fir/fit
[01:29:50] <Bytram> it's not ideal... but this fits:
[01:29:51] <Bytram> United Airlines Supervisor Injures Musician's Hand While Wresting Antique Violin in Baggage Dispute
[01:34:34] <Deucalion> looks fine to me
[01:34:57] <Bytram> obliged!
[01:35:00] <Bytram> on to the last one
[01:38:36] <Bytram> finis!
[01:38:55] <Deucalion> Bytram++
[01:38:55] <Bender> karma - bytram: 54
[01:40:02] * Bytram smiles, and chuckles!
[01:40:28] <Bytram> still need a couple more stories to make it through the night (on the US east coast)
[01:40:49] <Deucalion> just space them out a little more :)
[01:41:15] <Bytram> Y O U M E A N L I K E T H I S ? ? ?
[01:41:36] <Bytram> ;)
[01:44:45] <Bytram> time to make some dinner... biab
[02:35:02] <Bytram> okay... pushed out a couple stories -- should last us until early morning US east coast...
[02:35:55] <Bytram> but were looking thin on submissions atm... may want to winnow out some of the 'oldies' so as to invoke the 'nagger banner' and encourage more submissions.
[02:36:10] <Bytram> *(we're
[02:57:59] <Bytram> okay pushed out one more... that's it for me.
[02:58:09] <Bytram> ~gnight #editorial
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[12:03:14] <Bytram> we have three politics stories in the sub queue... think I'm gonna merge 'em all into a single story
[12:03:17] <Bytram> (1) https://soylentnews.org
[12:03:20] <upstart> ^ 03James Comey lays out the case that President Trump obstructed justice: SoylentNews Submission
[12:03:28] <Bytram> (2) https://soylentnews.org
[12:03:29] <upstart> ^ 03President Donald J. Trump Announces Intent to Nominate Christopher A. Wray to be Director of FBI: SoylentNews Submission
[12:03:37] <Bytram> (3) https://soylentnews.org
[12:03:38] <upstart> ^ 03Tories turned over in UK General Election: SoylentNews Submission
[12:05:07] * Bytram wishes he could suggest the order that stories are merged together
[12:23:42] <Bytram> merge completed -- could use a 2nding.
[12:24:38] <Bytram> Also, for those who are not interested in political stories, I rescheduled the Tesla story to follow only about 45 minutes after the May/Comey/Wray story.
[12:28:06] <Bytram> ok, gtg -- need to be at work in about 30 minutes. :(
[12:28:10] <Bytram> have a great day everyone!
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[17:16:21] <n1_> Bytram, it almost feels like you're trolling me
[17:18:08] <n1_> 1) merging unrelated political stories does all of them a disservice 2) what is the point of the politics nexus if we're going to do everything possible to make politics about 5% of the stories on any given day
[17:20:12] <n1_> we had 3 people, up all night discussing the election in the main channel... the news that follows, the results of a democratic process ends up as a 'in other news' with some midpoint stories in unrelated political posturing elsewhere
[17:21:19] <n1_> and then you make me think you're trolling by putting up the tesla story next, which i suggested to reject because it's nothing but a soyvertisement for fucking tesla
[17:21:35] <cmn32480> is it time for a discussion of how we are using the politics nexus?
[17:22:09] <cmn32480> re-discuss, rather, and see if we need to adjust how we does things?
[17:22:26] <n1_> i thought i understood, and have since day one tried to strike a balance in the stories to give a variety, way before the nexus was a thing
[17:24:21] <cmn32480> the way JR laid out the use of the politics nexus was to run 1 or two politics stories a day, taht don't necessarily show on the main page.
[17:24:47] <n1_> yeah
[17:24:55] <cmn32480> flip[ side, is that JR hates politics and woudl be fine if the site never ran another story referencing it
[17:25:15] <n1_> i agree with that policy
[17:25:21] <cmn32480> personally, I'm open to suggestions
[17:25:31] <n1_> i dont want to see loads of politics stories
[17:25:43] <cmn32480> agreed
[17:25:51] <n1_> but the uk elections story and the fbi story are so far away from being even vaguely related
[17:26:00] <cmn32480> that was the point behind the nexus, let some who want to see them, and those of us that don't , won't
[17:26:07] <n1_> and could have been run a couple stories apart, and no one would have noticed
[17:26:16] <cmn32480> I agree, they ought not have been compbined.
[17:26:31] <cmn32480> or run JUST in the politics nexus and left off the main page
[17:26:52] <n1_> both fbi and election stories should have been politics nexus only
[17:27:18] <n1_> which is what they are now
[17:27:35] <n1_> so the people who care so deeply about politics enough to not want to see it
[17:27:41] <n1_> wouldnt have even seen them anyway
[17:28:01] <cmn32480> gimme a sec
[17:28:05] <cmn32480> let me check my prefs
[17:28:12] <cmn32480> I thoguht I had turned off the politics nexus.
[17:28:39] <cmn32480> shit
[17:28:39] <n1_> according to the story, it's only in politics not the main page
[17:28:41] <cmn32480> I didn't
[17:28:58] <n1_> sorry if im being a bit abrasive, i only got two hours sleep because of the election
[17:29:16] <cmn32480> the admin panel shows it in the story list...
[17:29:49] <cmn32480> but I aGREE.. WHEN EDITING IT, IT ONLY SHOWS IN POLITICS
[17:29:54] <cmn32480> stupid caps lock
[17:30:19] <n1_> i just changed prefs
[17:30:23] <n1_> and it disappeared of the main page
[17:30:48] <n1_> everything show up in the stories list afaik
[17:31:03] <n1_> only when you're on nexus specific stories list does it change
[17:31:03] <cmn32480> ok
[17:31:19] <cmn32480> ok
[17:31:38] * cmn32480 can't remember what he ate for breakfast either
[17:36:17] <n1_> i need to eat something, havnt had time to do anything this morning, running around taking people to doctors appointments, only just sat down
[17:51:36] <n1_> just dropped a couple stories in the queue
[17:51:49] <n1_> and ate a sandwich, sanity may return shortly
[17:54:53] <cmn32480> excellent
[17:54:54] <cmn32480> thanks
[17:55:00] <cmn32480> I dropped the one because the queu was dry
[17:55:09] <cmn32480> but doing it at work is a pain sometimes
[17:57:10] <n1_> i'll work on some more in a bit, once my brain is working properly
[17:57:26] <n1_> would have done some earlier but just no time this morning
[18:00:02] <cmn32480> we all get busy... it happens
[18:00:41] <n1_> in other politics news... maybe bytram inspire the WH.... they're apparently looking to combine the healthcare and tax cuts into one piece of legislation
[18:01:42] <cmn32480> so 1 really big mess hat nobody iunderstands instead of 2 big messes that are somewhat manageable... sounds reasonable
[18:03:00] <n1_> my only thought is it has the potential to allow some interesting crossovers in the legislation, tax cuts tied to healthcare would make any further reform even more difficult
[18:03:43] <n1_> 'if you try to change the tax legislation, then healthcare will go up for x million and x million more will be uninsured'
[18:04:11] <cmn32480> in the end, all it will do is fuck over the middle class
[18:04:38] <n1_> although if the recent history is anything to go by, the current WH is not capable of planning something like that
[18:04:58] <n1_> i'm sure plenty of people in the lower/working class will get fucked over too
[18:05:22] <cmn32480> likelty
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[20:22:13] <charon_> ~gday
[20:22:28] <charon_> ~gday editorial
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[20:24:01] <n1_> hey charon_
[20:26:08] <charon_> hiyo n1
[20:26:32] <n1_> how goes
[20:26:55] <charon_> despite my dislike of politics stories, i'd have to agree with you that lumping them together is not the right approach
[20:27:21] <charon_> it's alright. taking a few days off work starting tomorrow, so that will be nice
[20:27:27] <charon_> and yourself?
[20:28:57] <n1_> somewhat related political stories are fine, like i'd be fine with the FBI stories together, but putting the UK election in the same story as those two partially related stories is not a way to handle it at all
[20:29:29] <n1_> a few days off sounds like a good idea
[20:30:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> involve beer and fishing and you've got my vote for god emperor of arakis
[20:30:28] <n1_> im just tired, was up till almost 6am following the election which has lead to an interesting hypocritical result
[20:31:44] * TheMightyBuzzard slides n1_ a 3 liter cup o tea
[20:31:58] <charon_> TheMightyBuzzard: you will probably be shocked to know this, but i have never gone fishing.
[20:32:01] <n1_> after an election campaign warning about the oppositions support/sympathy for terrorists, the government is now relying on the support of a party that formed its own arms smuggling paramilitary
[20:32:19] <n1_> but that arms smuggling paramilitary was on the other side of the arms smuggling paramilitary that the opposition supported
[20:32:29] <charon_> n1: strange bedfellows abound
[20:32:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon_, ye gods man... how do you live?
[20:33:03] <charon_> TheMightyBuzzard: poorly, it seems. no dad around when i was a kid, so i never got to do the "manly" stuff
[20:33:42] <n1_> ive only been fishing a handful of times, and never caught anything
[20:34:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> catching things is really only a happy coincidence when fishing
[20:34:14] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard, he lives without scales, obviously....
[20:34:31] <n1_> TheMightyBuzzard, its not like i was really trying
[20:34:39] <n1_> it was just an excuse to go out and sit by the river
[20:34:56] <charon_> i bet that's buzzard's reason too
[20:35:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly. roomie's dad goes fishing with sweet potatoes on the grounds of you can't make a fish bite one even if you starve it near to death.
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[20:35:46] <n1_> i used ham
[20:36:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> n1_, it's a damned fine excuse to go sit by some water, preferably in the shade, and drink beer.
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[20:36:35] <charon_> you gave perfectly good ham to a fish?
[20:36:42] <charon_> you monster
[20:36:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it's not like they can go get their own. pigs don't swim that much.
[20:38:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon_, i highly recommend it as a relaxation technique. if you want to learn how to do it properly, find a spot near an old guy doing the same and you'll get plenty of pointers.
[20:38:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus lots of good conversation and outrageous lies
[20:39:05] <cmn32480> fishermen never lie
[20:39:06] <n1_> charon_, it wasn't perfectly good ham... it was some reconstituted processed ham like meat product
[20:39:13] <charon_> how do i tell the difference between pointers and lies?
[20:39:33] <cmn32480> the ones that work are lies.. the ones that just keep you there with a line in the water are pointers
[20:39:46] <charon_> i bow to your wisdom
[20:40:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> well the pointers will be about how to catch fish near them. the lies will be about how they caught fish other places.
[20:40:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> and everything else.
[20:40:39] <charon_> lol
[20:41:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i get deeply disappointed if i don't hear about a 30+ pound catfish that took an hour and a half to reel in when i go back and visit oklahoma
[20:42:48] <cmn32480> are the other guys as dissappointed when your catfish is only 28lbs?
[20:42:51] <n1_> i was just trying to look up the simpsons clip of the 'general sherman
[20:42:54] <n1_> catfish
[20:43:26] <cmn32480> too late.. TMB already caught him... twice
[20:43:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, mine are never that small. most of them i reel in expecting jonah to pop out of their mouth and have to tow them behind the boat.
[20:43:35] <n1_> 'They say he's 500 pounds
[20:43:36] <n1_> of bottom-dwelling fury.
[20:43:36] <n1_> No one knows how old he
[20:43:36] <n1_> is, but if you ask me, and most people do, he's a hundred years if he's a day.'
[20:44:14] <n1_> No one's ever caught him?
[20:44:14] <n1_> One fella came close.
[20:44:14] <n1_> Went by the name of Homer.
[20:44:14] <n1_> Seven feet tall, he was, with arms like tree trunks
[20:44:42] <n1_> and his eyes were like steel: cold and hard.
[20:44:43] <n1_> Had a shock of hair--
[20:44:43] <n1_> red, like the fires of hell.
[20:45:50] * TheMightyBuzzard debates getting a winch on his car to pull the bigger ones up out of the water
[20:45:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> or a wench, though they're more expensive.
[20:46:53] <n1_> a winch wench sounds like the best of both worlds
[20:47:21] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders off for a smoke after thoroughly derailing any discussion of editing
[20:48:03] <cmn32480> all righty fellas... I'm out. y'all have fun tellin' whoppers...
[20:48:14] <cmn32480> maybe see you tonight... but who knows.
[20:48:32] * n1_ hat tip
[20:54:04] <charon_> darn customers...
[20:54:08] <charon_> ~gnight cmn32480
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[20:55:26] <charon_> this looks promising for the front page: http://www.krcrtv.com
[20:55:28] <upstart> ^ 03EPD: Suspect allegedly shot man with shotgun shell filled with cereal - KRCR
[20:55:48] <chromas> from the cereal-killer dept
[21:05:33] <n1_> only in america
[21:05:35] <n1_> :p
[21:09:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> rice crispies? those wouldn't even hurt. should have used grape nuts.
[21:12:28] <n1_> doesnt seem like there was much intent as the person who was shot didnt press charges
[21:12:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, prolly silly drunk friends
[21:12:58] * TheMightyBuzzard has a nice scar from such like
[21:13:10] <n1_> guy was arrested for probation violation and resisting arrest, but that by itself wouldn't be very newsworthy
[21:15:01] <charon_> yeah, i'm kidding about submitting it. but it is amusing
[21:15:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon_, it's almost the weekend. do it.
[21:16:13] <charon_> put it under politics
[21:17:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, i forgot i wanted to put an op-ed nexus up.
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