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[21:17:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, i forgot i wanted to put an op-ed nexus up.
[21:16:13] <charon_> put it under politics
[21:15:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon_, it's almost the weekend. do it.
[21:15:01] <charon_> yeah, i'm kidding about submitting it. but it is amusing
[21:13:10] <n1_> guy was arrested for probation violation and resisting arrest, but that by itself wouldn't be very newsworthy
[21:12:58] * TheMightyBuzzard has a nice scar from such like
[21:12:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, prolly silly drunk friends
[21:12:28] <n1_> doesnt seem like there was much intent as the person who was shot didnt press charges
[21:09:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> rice crispies? those wouldn't even hurt. should have used grape nuts.
[21:05:35] <n1_> :p
[21:05:33] <n1_> only in america
[20:55:48] <chromas> from the cereal-killer dept
[20:55:28] <upstart> ^ 03EPD: Suspect allegedly shot man with shotgun shell filled with cereal - KRCR
[20:55:26] <charon_> this looks promising for the front page: http://www.krcrtv.com
[20:54:09] * exec scientifically passes a raid 5 volume of pyjama time to cmn32480
[20:54:08] <charon_> ~gnight cmn32480
[20:54:04] <charon_> darn customers...
[20:48:32] * n1_ hat tip
[20:48:14] <cmn32480> maybe see you tonight... but who knows.
[20:48:03] <cmn32480> all righty fellas... I'm out. y'all have fun tellin' whoppers...
[20:47:21] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders off for a smoke after thoroughly derailing any discussion of editing
[20:46:53] <n1_> a winch wench sounds like the best of both worlds
[20:45:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> or a wench, though they're more expensive.
[20:45:50] * TheMightyBuzzard debates getting a winch on his car to pull the bigger ones up out of the water
[20:44:43] <n1_> red, like the fires of hell.
[20:44:43] <n1_> Had a shock of hair--
[20:44:42] <n1_> and his eyes were like steel: cold and hard.
[20:44:14] <n1_> Seven feet tall, he was, with arms like tree trunks
[20:44:14] <n1_> Went by the name of Homer.
[20:44:14] <n1_> One fella came close.
[20:44:14] <n1_> No one's ever caught him?
[20:43:36] <n1_> is, but if you ask me, and most people do, he's a hundred years if he's a day.'
[20:43:36] <n1_> No one knows how old he
[20:43:36] <n1_> of bottom-dwelling fury.
[20:43:35] <n1_> 'They say he's 500 pounds
[20:43:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, mine are never that small. most of them i reel in expecting jonah to pop out of their mouth and have to tow them behind the boat.
[20:43:26] <cmn32480> too late.. TMB already caught him... twice
[20:42:54] <n1_> catfish
[20:42:51] <n1_> i was just trying to look up the simpsons clip of the 'general sherman
[20:42:48] <cmn32480> are the other guys as dissappointed when your catfish is only 28lbs?
[20:41:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i get deeply disappointed if i don't hear about a 30+ pound catfish that took an hour and a half to reel in when i go back and visit oklahoma
[20:40:39] <charon_> lol
[20:40:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> and everything else.
[20:40:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> well the pointers will be about how to catch fish near them. the lies will be about how they caught fish other places.
[20:39:46] <charon_> i bow to your wisdom
[20:39:33] <cmn32480> the ones that work are lies.. the ones that just keep you there with a line in the water are pointers
[20:39:13] <charon_> how do i tell the difference between pointers and lies?
[20:39:06] <n1_> charon_, it wasn't perfectly good ham... it was some reconstituted processed ham like meat product
[20:39:05] <cmn32480> fishermen never lie
[20:38:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus lots of good conversation and outrageous lies
[20:38:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon_, i highly recommend it as a relaxation technique. if you want to learn how to do it properly, find a spot near an old guy doing the same and you'll get plenty of pointers.
[20:36:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it's not like they can go get their own. pigs don't swim that much.
[20:36:42] <charon_> you monster
[20:36:35] <charon_> you gave perfectly good ham to a fish?
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[20:36:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> n1_, it's a damned fine excuse to go sit by some water, preferably in the shade, and drink beer.
[20:35:46] <n1_> i used ham
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[20:35:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly. roomie's dad goes fishing with sweet potatoes on the grounds of you can't make a fish bite one even if you starve it near to death.
[20:34:56] <charon_> i bet that's buzzard's reason too
[20:34:39] <n1_> it was just an excuse to go out and sit by the river
[20:34:31] <n1_> TheMightyBuzzard, its not like i was really trying
[20:34:14] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard, he lives without scales, obviously....
[20:34:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> catching things is really only a happy coincidence when fishing
[20:33:42] <n1_> ive only been fishing a handful of times, and never caught anything
[20:33:03] <charon_> TheMightyBuzzard: poorly, it seems. no dad around when i was a kid, so i never got to do the "manly" stuff
[20:32:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon_, ye gods man... how do you live?
[20:32:29] <charon_> n1: strange bedfellows abound
[20:32:19] <n1_> but that arms smuggling paramilitary was on the other side of the arms smuggling paramilitary that the opposition supported
[20:32:01] <n1_> after an election campaign warning about the oppositions support/sympathy for terrorists, the government is now relying on the support of a party that formed its own arms smuggling paramilitary
[20:31:58] <charon_> TheMightyBuzzard: you will probably be shocked to know this, but i have never gone fishing.
[20:31:44] * TheMightyBuzzard slides n1_ a 3 liter cup o tea
[20:30:28] <n1_> im just tired, was up till almost 6am following the election which has lead to an interesting hypocritical result
[20:30:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> involve beer and fishing and you've got my vote for god emperor of arakis
[20:29:29] <n1_> a few days off sounds like a good idea
[20:28:57] <n1_> somewhat related political stories are fine, like i'd be fine with the FBI stories together, but putting the UK election in the same story as those two partially related stories is not a way to handle it at all
[20:27:27] <charon_> and yourself?
[20:27:21] <charon_> it's alright. taking a few days off work starting tomorrow, so that will be nice
[20:26:55] <charon_> despite my dislike of politics stories, i'd have to agree with you that lumping them together is not the right approach
[20:26:32] <n1_> how goes
[20:26:08] <charon_> hiyo n1
[20:24:01] <n1_> hey charon_
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[20:22:28] <charon_> ~gday editorial
[20:22:13] <charon_> ~gday
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[18:05:22] <cmn32480> likelty
[18:04:58] <n1_> i'm sure plenty of people in the lower/working class will get fucked over too
[18:04:38] <n1_> although if the recent history is anything to go by, the current WH is not capable of planning something like that
[18:04:11] <cmn32480> in the end, all it will do is fuck over the middle class
[18:03:43] <n1_> 'if you try to change the tax legislation, then healthcare will go up for x million and x million more will be uninsured'
[18:03:00] <n1_> my only thought is it has the potential to allow some interesting crossovers in the legislation, tax cuts tied to healthcare would make any further reform even more difficult
[18:01:42] <cmn32480> so 1 really big mess hat nobody iunderstands instead of 2 big messes that are somewhat manageable... sounds reasonable
[18:00:41] <n1_> in other politics news... maybe bytram inspire the WH.... they're apparently looking to combine the healthcare and tax cuts into one piece of legislation
[18:00:02] <cmn32480> we all get busy... it happens
[17:57:26] <n1_> would have done some earlier but just no time this morning
[17:57:10] <n1_> i'll work on some more in a bit, once my brain is working properly
[17:55:09] <cmn32480> but doing it at work is a pain sometimes
[17:55:00] <cmn32480> I dropped the one because the queu was dry
[17:54:54] <cmn32480> thanks
[17:54:53] <cmn32480> excellent
[17:51:49] <n1_> and ate a sandwich, sanity may return shortly
[17:51:36] <n1_> just dropped a couple stories in the queue
[17:36:17] <n1_> i need to eat something, havnt had time to do anything this morning, running around taking people to doctors appointments, only just sat down
[17:31:38] * cmn32480 can't remember what he ate for breakfast either
[17:31:19] <cmn32480> ok
[17:31:03] <cmn32480> ok
[17:31:03] <n1_> only when you're on nexus specific stories list does it change
[17:30:48] <n1_> everything show up in the stories list afaik
[17:30:23] <n1_> and it disappeared of the main page
[17:30:19] <n1_> i just changed prefs
[17:29:54] <cmn32480> stupid caps lock
[17:29:49] <cmn32480> but I aGREE.. WHEN EDITING IT, IT ONLY SHOWS IN POLITICS
[17:29:16] <cmn32480> the admin panel shows it in the story list...
[17:28:58] <n1_> sorry if im being a bit abrasive, i only got two hours sleep because of the election
[17:28:41] <cmn32480> I didn't
[17:28:39] <n1_> according to the story, it's only in politics not the main page
[17:28:39] <cmn32480> shit
[17:28:12] <cmn32480> I thoguht I had turned off the politics nexus.
[17:28:05] <cmn32480> let me check my prefs
[17:28:01] <cmn32480> gimme a sec
[17:27:41] <n1_> wouldnt have even seen them anyway
[17:27:35] <n1_> so the people who care so deeply about politics enough to not want to see it
[17:27:18] <n1_> which is what they are now
[17:26:52] <n1_> both fbi and election stories should have been politics nexus only
[17:26:31] <cmn32480> or run JUST in the politics nexus and left off the main page
[17:26:16] <cmn32480> I agree, they ought not have been compbined.
[17:26:07] <n1_> and could have been run a couple stories apart, and no one would have noticed
[17:26:00] <cmn32480> that was the point behind the nexus, let some who want to see them, and those of us that don't , won't
[17:25:51] <n1_> but the uk elections story and the fbi story are so far away from being even vaguely related
[17:25:43] <cmn32480> agreed
[17:25:31] <n1_> i dont want to see loads of politics stories
[17:25:21] <cmn32480> personally, I'm open to suggestions
[17:25:15] <n1_> i agree with that policy
[17:24:55] <cmn32480> flip[ side, is that JR hates politics and woudl be fine if the site never ran another story referencing it
[17:24:47] <n1_> yeah
[17:24:21] <cmn32480> the way JR laid out the use of the politics nexus was to run 1 or two politics stories a day, taht don't necessarily show on the main page.
[17:22:26] <n1_> i thought i understood, and have since day one tried to strike a balance in the stories to give a variety, way before the nexus was a thing
[17:22:09] <cmn32480> re-discuss, rather, and see if we need to adjust how we does things?
[17:21:35] <cmn32480> is it time for a discussion of how we are using the politics nexus?
[17:21:19] <n1_> and then you make me think you're trolling by putting up the tesla story next, which i suggested to reject because it's nothing but a soyvertisement for fucking tesla
[17:20:12] <n1_> we had 3 people, up all night discussing the election in the main channel... the news that follows, the results of a democratic process ends up as a 'in other news' with some midpoint stories in unrelated political posturing elsewhere
[17:18:08] <n1_> 1) merging unrelated political stories does all of them a disservice 2) what is the point of the politics nexus if we're going to do everything possible to make politics about 5% of the stories on any given day
[17:16:21] <n1_> Bytram, it almost feels like you're trolling me
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[12:28:10] <Bytram> have a great day everyone!
[12:28:06] <Bytram> ok, gtg -- need to be at work in about 30 minutes. :(
[12:24:38] <Bytram> Also, for those who are not interested in political stories, I rescheduled the Tesla story to follow only about 45 minutes after the May/Comey/Wray story.
[12:23:42] <Bytram> merge completed -- could use a 2nding.
[12:05:07] * Bytram wishes he could suggest the order that stories are merged together
[12:03:38] <upstart> ^ 03Tories turned over in UK General Election: SoylentNews Submission
[12:03:37] <Bytram> (3) https://soylentnews.org
[12:03:29] <upstart> ^ 03President Donald J. Trump Announces Intent to Nominate Christopher A. Wray to be Director of FBI: SoylentNews Submission
[12:03:28] <Bytram> (2) https://soylentnews.org
[12:03:20] <upstart> ^ 03James Comey lays out the case that President Trump obstructed justice: SoylentNews Submission
[12:03:17] <Bytram> (1) https://soylentnews.org
[12:03:14] <Bytram> we have three politics stories in the sub queue... think I'm gonna merge 'em all into a single story
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[02:58:09] <Bytram> ~gnight #editorial
[02:57:59] <Bytram> okay pushed out one more... that's it for me.
[02:36:10] <Bytram> *(we're
[02:35:55] <Bytram> but were looking thin on submissions atm... may want to winnow out some of the 'oldies' so as to invoke the 'nagger banner' and encourage more submissions.
[02:35:02] <Bytram> okay... pushed out a couple stories -- should last us until early morning US east coast...
[01:44:45] <Bytram> time to make some dinner... biab
[01:41:36] <Bytram> ;)
[01:41:15] <Bytram> Y O U M E A N L I K E T H I S ? ? ?
[01:40:49] <Deucalion> just space them out a little more :)
[01:40:28] <Bytram> still need a couple more stories to make it through the night (on the US east coast)
[01:40:02] * Bytram smiles, and chuckles!
[01:38:55] <Bender> karma - bytram: 54
[01:38:55] <Deucalion> Bytram++
[01:38:36] <Bytram> finis!
[01:35:00] <Bytram> on to the last one
[01:34:57] <Bytram> obliged!
[01:34:34] <Deucalion> looks fine to me
[01:29:51] <Bytram> United Airlines Supervisor Injures Musician's Hand While Wresting Antique Violin in Baggage Dispute
[01:29:50] <Bytram> it's not ideal... but this fits:
[01:25:53] <Bytram> s/fir/fit
[01:24:09] <Bytram> the last 4 chars "pute" will not fir in the space provided
[01:23:45] <Bytram> Musician’s hand injured after United Airlines supervisor wrestles away antique violin in baggage dispute
[01:23:37] <Bytram> am struggling with how to remove 4 chars from a title. :/
[01:23:19] <Bytram> np
[01:23:03] <Deucalion> Thanks Bytram
[01:13:16] <Bytram> only two more to go
[01:09:28] * Bytram starts 2nding stories in the queue