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[21:41:17] <mrpg> My work here is done. Bye.
[21:41:06] <mrpg> Devuan is stable! good luck.
[21:35:57] <mrpg> hopefully it is not too much opinionated
[21:25:36] <upstart> ^ 03Linux homes for Ubuntu Unity orphans: Minty Cinnamon, GNOME or Ubuntu, mate? • The Register
[21:25:35] <mrpg> hi im gonna do this submission https://www.theregister.co.uk
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[20:13:39] <Bytram> nap time... laters
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[19:09:19] <janrinok> bye...
[19:08:59] <janrinok> true, but having them make you appreciate them more
[19:08:50] <Xyem> Night janrinok.
[19:08:38] <Bytram> that's what friends are for, yanno?
[19:08:17] <Bytram> will do, and it's the least I could do.
[19:08:05] <Bytram> :(
[19:08:04] <janrinok> take care Bytram, and thanks for the emails over the last few months
[19:08:02] * Bytram will be at work at that time... will be missing the visit :9
[19:07:40] <janrinok> and hopefully I will be back on here tomorrow
[19:07:39] <Bytram> janrinok: and a goodnight to you, as well!
[19:07:25] <janrinok> so a goodnight to one and all
[19:07:13] <janrinok> well, that is S down for the night, and it is time that I was moving on too
[19:07:09] <Xyem> I'm not in any rush. I'm just here to help out.
[19:06:08] <Bytram> just joshin ya.
[19:06:01] <Bytram> I know!
[19:05:54] <janrinok> that was for Xyem
[19:05:53] * Bytram exhales
[19:05:47] <janrinok> OK, don't hold your breath
[19:05:44] <Bytram> janrinok: to answer your earlier question as to how the story sub queue is so full... taky.. and p666 have been up to their usual, robust number of submissions, and lately butthu.t has stepped up rather heavily, too.
[19:01:17] <exec> <Bytram> Xyem: luv your scents of humor
[19:01:15] <Bytram> s/c/sc/
[19:01:09] <Bytram> Xyem: luv your cents of humor
[19:00:50] <Xyem> janrinok: Sure, that'd be good :)
[19:00:44] <Xyem> As long as you didn't get them mixed up..
[19:00:11] * Bytram realized he had not eaten anything yet today, so took a sidetrip to the kitchen
[18:56:35] <janrinok> do you want me to throw you a few more stories to play with?
[18:55:57] <janrinok> lol
[18:55:51] <Xyem> No-one seems to have noticed me so far..
[18:55:42] <Xyem> Probably not. As far as I know, I didn't do anything majorly wrong with the test stories though.
[18:52:58] <janrinok> do you want fame and fortune?
[18:52:46] <janrinok> Xyem - do you think you are ready for the big time yet?
[18:50:59] <janrinok> and you - I'll have to go soon so take care
[18:50:47] <Bytram> good to see ya!
[18:50:46] <janrinok> but - it is only a technicality
[18:50:40] <Bytram> bio break... gtg... biab
[18:50:32] <janrinok> you were authorised for the last training which was in Dec?
[18:50:20] <Bytram> ahh, yes, /me had forgotten.
[18:50:06] <Bytram> Getting your approval means a lot, and I don't want to overstep. period.
[18:49:58] <janrinok> and I spoke to n1 the other day - he is also auth'ed too
[18:49:34] <Bytram> good
[18:49:25] <Bytram> true.
[18:48:58] <janrinok> we've chatted
[18:48:52] <Bytram> I assume the two of you have met previously, or should I do introductions?
[18:48:51] <janrinok> well you and cmn are also authorised as instructors
[18:48:33] <Xyem> Evening :)
[18:48:21] <Bytram> janrinok: just wanted to give you options as to delegate, if the need arose based on your circumstances.
[18:48:19] <janrinok> hi Xyem
[18:48:13] <Xyem> when that happened*
[18:48:01] <janrinok> and I very pleased that charon and fnord stepped up to the plate - at least they assumed responsibility to get the job done
[18:47:49] <Xyem> It's actually the other way around. I volunteered for development first and then volunteered to be an editor too.. though saying that, I don't remember how or when they happened.
[18:47:04] <Bytram> oh yeah, no hurry.
[18:46:52] <janrinok> Give me a week before I am fully back in the saddle - still a few other things pulling me in other directions
[18:46:46] <Bytram> *actually
[18:46:41] <Bytram> that's why we throw them test stories so we can acutaly see 'em in action!
[18:46:11] <Bytram> how would you like to handle the final decision as to when/if he should get privs on prod?
[18:46:04] <janrinok> my concern would be if they were asked a question regarding something that they had not experienced. Whether they would say what they would do or say what _should_ be done
[18:45:33] <Bytram> just need a priv bump and he could be at it.
[18:45:14] <Bytram> yep, he's still on the dev site for a bit longer... as he's also taken a shining to helping out with dev work
[18:44:43] <Bytram> they did a fine job, and being [relatively] knew, themselves, were able to vividly recall the gotchas to watch out for.
[18:44:35] <janrinok> yup, can't argue with that. As long as the final say goes to one of the qualified instructors then no foul I suppose
[18:43:57] <Bytram> the best way to learn something is to try and explain it to someone else.
[18:43:40] <Bytram> true that, but the practice was on dev, for one, two I'd have jumped in if theings were trerribly amiss, and third
[18:43:08] <janrinok> neither of whom are technically authorised, but what the hell
[18:42:45] <Bytram> just offered a couple pointers / clarifications as I saw would be useful.
[18:42:31] <Bytram> I came home from work one day and from the scrollback, it looks like char.n and fnord... took it upon themselves to get him up to speed.
[18:41:52] <janrinok> who is training up Xyem?
[18:41:48] <Bytram> from what I've seen, it seems to be working!
[18:41:27] <Bytram> we try to keep it to one story per day... provides a sandbox where (most of) the chatter can be diverted
[18:40:47] <janrinok> too many pol stories for my liking, but if that is what people want then it is not for me to object
[18:40:38] <Bytram> not good enought to use, but too good to throw away until we are absolutely sure we can
[18:40:15] <Bytram> comes and goes... but we generally have at least a half-dozen workable stories in the queue... others we hold onto, just in case the queue runs dry.
[18:40:03] <janrinok> as you know, one does what is needed to be done
[18:39:35] <Bytram> I recall times in my early days that you and lamx would switch off subbing stories for the other to post
[18:39:33] <janrinok> yeah, I noted that there were over 50 subs yesterday! When did that last happen?
[18:39:07] <Bytram> You and LamX single?-handedly kept the site going without the generous-feeders-of-the-submission-queue we have now
[18:38:39] <janrinok> lol
[18:38:33] <Bytram> BULL COOKIES!
[18:38:18] <janrinok> congratulations, you and the team have kept the site going. I always knew I was not needed :)
[18:37:35] <janrinok> you have a good lead on me in the stories stakes - I don't suppose I'll be catching you up for quite a while!
[18:35:33] <Bytram> powers-that-be putting their spin on things, no doubt... as well as people who are afraid leaping to conclusions.
[18:34:32] <janrinok> I made a few comments in the thread last night - it seems there is a fair bit of inaccurate reporting taking place on your side of the pond
[18:33:35] <Bytram> succinctly put. agree.
[18:33:06] <janrinok> if it had been releasable - we would have done it to our own newspapers as well. However, apart from being distressing to the families of victims, it has raised the possibility of prejudicing legal proceedings here
[18:32:41] * Bytram hopes he is wrong on that count.
[18:32:32] <Bytram> but, I have very little trust and faith in the current administration to have much systems purview -- seems to be tactical jabs and reactions.
[18:31:53] <Bytram> journalism has its place, don't get me wrong, or I wouldn't be here!
[18:31:22] <Bytram> ahem
[18:31:19] <Bytram> ahme.
[18:31:14] <Bytram> GOOD!
[18:31:02] <janrinok> sensitive information passed by Manchester police to LE in the US, appeared in the NYT this morning. May is raising the matter with Trump today in Brussels. Manchester police are refusing to pass any more info to the US#
[18:30:03] <Bytram> ignorance is bliss
[18:29:54] <Bytram> nope
[18:29:39] <janrinok> you might have seen the news about the leaks about our int in the US?
[18:29:34] * Bytram is a bit synicalabout such things.
[18:29:14] <Bytram> well, what ELSE are they gonna call 'em?
[18:28:57] <janrinok> 8 arrests so far, and the finds have been describe as 'very significant'
[18:28:55] * Bytram chooses to neither watch the telly nor read local papers... what is not alarmist is trying to sell me something that I do not want.
[18:28:26] <Bytram> YAY!!
[18:28:08] <janrinok> you obviously haven't been seeing the uk coverage - makes me proud to be a Mancunian! They are been taking the piss out of ISIS explaining that after Hitler, the IRA, and other terrorists attacks, it will take more than some nut-job who decides to blow himself up to scare them
[18:27:00] <Bytram> if it does, then they 'win' -- let our response to 9/11 be a warning
[18:26:38] <Bytram> hope you folks don't cower or bring out new restrictions... just ignore 'em and not let their terror take hold
[18:26:37] <janrinok> it was always a case of 'when', not 'if'
[18:26:16] * Bytram sad about bombing
[18:25:58] <Bytram> not the best with "you're welcome", either
[18:25:50] <janrinok> had a bit of a scare on Monday evening after the attack in Manchester when one of the names that came up was similar to a relative of mine - false alarm fortunately for me, but not for her family of course
[18:25:45] <Bytram> lol
[18:25:44] <Bytram> good bye!
[18:25:42] <Bytram> ugh.
[18:25:33] * Bytram is much better with 'thank you" than "hello" or "good byte"
[18:25:13] <Bytram> Who can exchange some pleasantries in over a dozen languages... can't be 'merican if I can do that, right?
[18:24:29] <janrinok> says the 'merican!
[18:24:13] <Bytram> you may be able to spell, but you still talk funny. ;)
[18:23:55] <Bytram> ewe rope? watts that?
[18:23:35] <janrinok> no, we can still spell in Europe ;)
[18:23:18] <Bytram> lemme guess, now its scents of humor?
[18:22:58] <janrinok> sense of humour - I had one of those once....
[18:22:23] <Bytram> depends on the recipient's sense of humor
[18:22:12] <Bytram> elsewhere in the computer world, that might be known as an exploit
[18:21:55] * janrinok is not surprised that QA came up with that analogy
[18:21:27] <janrinok> yup, that sort of thing
[18:21:18] <Bytram> like a feature is a bug, but with a useful side effect?
[18:20:47] <janrinok> also called stubbornness by some ...
[18:20:28] <Bytram> *persistence
[18:20:25] <janrinok> :)
[18:20:15] <Bytram> something tells me you have a certain, pesistence, when called for.
[18:20:02] <Bytram> I have no doubt about that!
[18:19:46] <janrinok> I'll return knackered, but with up-to-date news and the knowledge that everything that can be done is being done
[18:19:12] <Bytram> she looks beyond the short term, to see that absence makes the heart grow fonder, and you'll return refreshed and invigorated and well, you know... =)
[18:17:52] <janrinok> I'm planning another trip back to the UK in late June and early July - which means that S has to go back into a home for the duration but she is happy with that
[18:17:16] * Bytram smiles!
[18:17:08] <Bytram> It often takes banging my head against a hard object, but I can usually, eventually, come to accept the things I have no power to change.
[18:16:43] <janrinok> S sends you a big hug and a TY back
[18:16:24] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:16:09] <janrinok> well, yes and no. They are still having treatment and one is awaiting additional surgery, but there is not much that we can do now so it is a little easier to cope with
[18:15:21] <Bytram> hope things are on the upswing!
[18:15:16] <Bytram> I'm sure you are quite tired with all you've been through...
[18:15:06] <janrinok> thank you!
[18:15:04] <Bytram> okay. tired, but have day off and trying to take it easy.
[18:14:55] <janrinok> my conversation has never be engrossing
[18:14:50] <Bytram> {{{ JR & S & ILs }}}
[18:14:32] <Bytram> before I get engrossed in conversation...
[18:14:31] <janrinok> how's things with you?
[18:14:16] <janrinok> nice to be seen
[18:14:12] <Bytram> mare see
[18:14:06] <janrinok> Bytram, and a very good evening to you too!
[18:14:03] <Bytram> So good to SEE you!
[18:13:53] <Bytram> janrinok: HI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:13:38] <janrinok> hi guys
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[18:01:51] <Bytram> https://www.forbes.com
[11:03:17] <Bytram> NOTE TO SELF: Trick to submitting a new story filter: on CONFIG / Filter: select 'submissions', cllick create. See way-too-big number displayed as filter number on new page. Select 'submissions' again, and click create again. Saw a more normal filter number displayed (in this case, 77). Then scroll down and enter filter parameters and click 'Save filter'
[10:57:01] * Bytram decides to go with: "Please do not submit spam to our story submission queue."
[10:55:19] <Bytram> Hmmm, what to use for the filter error message? "We are all bald, you insensitive clod!"
[10:53:36] <upstart> ^ 03Chad Kenyon: An Experienced Hair Colorist and Balayage Artist: SoylentNews Submission
[10:53:33] <Bytram> cf: https://soylentnews.org
[10:53:23] <Bytram> In the crowded world of hair colorists, Chad Kenyon successfully stands tall and apart from others. The professional hair stylist has been offering various kinds of hair solutions to clients since a long time. Chad, who is passionate about hair coloring and solutions, learned the hair color technique in Spain after being raised at Illinois.
[10:53:23] <Bytram> and, the submission is written in bad English:
[10:52:50] <Bytram> so THAT is what that smell was!
[10:52:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft, style oozes from my every orifice
[10:52:01] <Bytram> speaks for yourself
[10:51:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, are you certain? there's good odds our community could use some styling.
[10:50:36] <Bytram> yet ANOTHER bin spam submission from a hairstylist named 'Chad Kenyon' --- /me is gonna add a story filter to block submissions
[10:46:13] <Bytram> n1: tip o' the hat to ya
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[02:19:11] <Bytram> His name is... Doggie Howser, M.D. ?? =)
[02:18:49] <Bytram> ^^^ "Dog sits on the editorial boards of seven international medical journals"
[02:18:15] <upstart> ^ 03The Perth dog that's probably smarter than you | Perth Now
[02:18:13] <Bytram> http://www.perthnow.com.au
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[01:51:36] <charon_> brilliant
[01:51:14] <Bytram> multitask! Start unwinding while on the road -- just drive backwards! =)
[01:50:00] <charon_> yeah, true. the unwinding is tough
[01:49:54] * Bytram is 2nding stories atm
[01:49:40] <Bytram> makes for a long day for ya... takes time to get home, eat, unwind, and finally get to bed.
[01:49:40] <charon_> stupid me
[01:49:35] <charon_> why do i always get drawn into these sexism threads?
[01:49:14] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:48:28] <charon_> i also have tomorrow off. only 12 minutes left til i can get out of work
[01:43:05] <Bytram> having dinner... looking forward to a rainy day off tomorrow. u?
[01:42:05] <charon_> how's things?
[01:30:05] <Bytram> ahhh... got it
[01:29:47] <charon_> heh, bit on some of Ethanol Fuelled's bait
[01:27:40] <Bytram> charon_: what happened?
[01:20:35] <Bytram> whacha do?
[01:18:10] <charon_> i have made a terrible mistake
[01:17:41] <Bytram> charon_: bone chewer!
[01:16:19] <charon_> hiyo bytram
[00:49:18] <upstart> ^ 03Boeing, DARPA to Design, Build, Test New Experimental Spaceplane ( http://boeing.mediaroom.com )
[00:49:15] <Bytram> http://boeing.mediaroom.com
[00:47:54] <upstart> ^ 03Boeing teams up with DARPA to create a new spaceplane - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[00:47:52] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[00:47:40] <Bytram> hi guys!