#editorial | Logs for 2017-05-23

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[00:34:07] <n1> breaking: multiple sources within the community say today should go fuck itself.
[01:04:55] <Bytram> bbbbut... what are we going to do with all the little fuck-up progeny that would produce?
[01:04:57] <Bytram> ;)
[01:07:48] <Bytram> n1: Real breaking news... Ariana Grande concert: Blast a 'terrorist incident' - http://www.aljazeera.com
[01:07:51] <upstart> ^ 03Ariana Grande concert: Blast a 'terrorist incident' | UK News | Al Jazeera
[01:07:57] <Bytram> do you think I should sub it?
[01:07:58] <n1> yeah i'm aware of that
[01:08:01] <n1> no
[01:08:02] <n1> not yet
[01:08:19] <n1> there's too much bs flying around on it yet, there is almost nothing confirmed
[01:09:22] <n1> example, nbc said 'us officials says uk officials told them suspected suicide bombing' .... but the actual article linked in that announcement says nothing of the sort
[01:10:07] <Bytram> I'm not one to follow the latest artists.. wasn't sure how much of an interest the story would hold. Then again, is on other side of pond and I got caught by surprise by the reaction to the Charlie Hebdo story and also another incident with an attack in, umm, Paris(?)terrorist implications,
[01:10:21] <n1> i usually do follow these things
[01:10:26] <n1> which makes this kind of weird
[01:10:45] <n1> since those other incidents, there was relatively good information coming out right away
[01:11:00] <Bytram> "So far 19 people have been confirmed dead, with around 50 others injured. This is currently being treated as a terrorist incident until police know otherwise," Greater Manchester Police said in a tweet.
[01:11:41] <n1> yeah, that's literally all there is at the moment
[01:11:47] <n1> but ive seen all kinds of crap floating around this story
[01:12:13] <Bytram> k. Just finished reading the Al Jazeera article.
[01:12:48] <Bytram> Apparently happened *after* the concert ended.
[01:13:08] <n1> it will be a story, but right now there just isnt enough to go on
[01:13:18] <n1> it's just speculation
[01:13:20] <Bytram> agreed.
[01:14:00] <Bytram> If you are already following the story, I'll leave it in your capable and level-headed hands (intended mixed metaphor!)
[01:14:08] <n1> when the uk authorities come out with an actual narrative, then we can do something with it
[01:14:50] <n1> but as i said about that nbc thing... unnamed us officials reporting to nbc about unnamed officials about a suicide bombing that isn't even mentioned in the article itself is not a way forward
[01:15:06] <Bytram> Ya think?
[01:15:08] <Bytram> Doh!
[01:15:21] <n1> the article i'm talking about had a quote, which was from the local police, basically what you pasted too
[01:15:32] <Bytram> ahh, yep.
[01:15:47] <n1> nothing about these 'multiple officials' with some info .. just an official public statement by the local police
[01:20:01] <Bytram> looking at General E. Lee
[01:20:26] <Bytram> FYI just saw a submission in our queue on the concert
[01:21:28] <n1> heh
[01:21:35] <n1> that sub managed to hit on the points i made
[01:21:39] <Bytram> skipping lee, looking at Trappist
[01:22:07] <n1> US officials told sky news about suicide bombing... terrorist attack in headline... no qualifications needed people, lets just knee jerk the shit out of this!
[01:22:27] <n1> 'treated as' apparently means 'definitely is'
[01:23:25] <Bytram> let's play 'operator'... can't wait to her what it sounds like after a few more handoffs, repostings, paraphrasings, etc.
[01:24:42] <n1> and to back up my point.. about an hour ago there was all this 'police found a bomb nearby'
[01:24:55] <n1> because they announced a controlled explosion was going to happen
[01:25:08] <n1> "Police have since confirmed that the item was abandoned clothing and now not thought to be suspicious."
[01:25:41] <Bytram> that's some owerful clothing!
[01:25:47] <Bytram> s/ o/ po/
[01:25:49] <exec> <Bytram> that's some powerful clothing!
[01:34:10] <n1> point is though, the 'suspicious device' will still have legs moving forward, the later clarification will get lost
[01:36:52] <Bytram> just mount the legs so that they point the *other* way!
[01:37:08] <Bytram> Do I have to do *everything* here?
[01:37:13] <Bytram> =)
[01:40:31] <cmn32480> ~tell janrinok I'm sorry I missed you. And I have missed you! Please give my best to S, a hug at least. With a little luck I'll be here next time you pop in.
[01:40:58] <n1> if there's an explosion there must be a muslim connection, if there's a hack there must be a russia connection... i imagine there's a sign like that hanging in all the major newsrooms.
[01:41:52] <n1> if there's an explosion and a hack, must tie the story into north korea.
[01:43:26] <cmn32480> but only if the explosion is a rocket coming off the pad
[01:44:22] <n1> which may have been their own incompetence, because they're useless communists... but it also may have been a western intelligence success in sabotaging it... so best just to assume both are true
[01:44:42] <cmn32480> absolutely
[01:45:02] <cmn32480> really thouhg.. all a rocket launch is is a controleld explosion with a directed blast
[01:45:13] * Bytram has finished 2nding all stories he could
[01:45:23] <n1> end result, we're awesome, they're stupid... but just in case they're not as stupid as we are awesome the pentagon needs more money.
[01:45:29] <n1> cmn32480, true
[01:46:35] <n1> i will do the manchester story as soon as there's a proper official statement/press conference
[01:49:22] <Bytram> https://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:49:23] <upstart> ^ 03Chinese e-tailer beats Amazon to the skies with one-ton delivery drones • The Register
[01:50:44] <Bytram> Is not clear whether the stated 'one-ton' is: the weight of the drone while empty, the weight while fully loaded, or the weight of cargo it can carry.
[01:52:06] <Bytram> ~tell Janrinok -- saw you made a guest appearance here while I was at work. So good to see you 'round', and certainly am looking fwd to seeing more of you. Give my best to S, and to her folks.
[01:52:46] <Bytram> break time.
[01:53:52] <Bytram> on second thought, I'm knackered... will hit the hay shortly.
[01:54:13] <cmn32480> that's my plan
[01:54:20] <Bytram> n1: hat tip
[01:54:36] * n1 hat tip
[01:54:41] <Bytram> n1: hat tipping
[01:54:48] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[01:54:50] * exec metrosexually postulates a recycle bin of Boaty McBoatface towards cmn32480
[01:54:52] <cmn32480> ~gnight bytram
[01:54:53] <Bytram> ~gnight n1
[01:54:55] * exec cantankerously enriches a caravan of buttmagic with bytram
[01:54:55] * exec brazenly evolves crusty sock full of trail mix from n1
[01:55:08] <Bytram> must be a BIG bi you gots there!
[01:55:17] <Bytram> adieu!
[01:57:45] <cmn32480> ~gnight n1
[01:57:47] * exec seductively merges a can of caffeinated bacon with n1
[01:58:01] * n1 hat tip
[01:58:03] <n1> take care cmn32480
[02:07:22] * n1 sigh...
[02:08:37] <n1> latest guardian update on Manchester story talks about everything in past tense... 'were investigating' cause ... 'was feared' more fatalities ... 'were part of the investigation'
[02:08:51] <n1> quickest forensic investigation in history
[02:11:42] <chromas> It was a Grande investigation.
[02:13:45] <n1> would be a decent dept title
[02:17:54] <chromas> from the ain't-it-grande dept
[02:20:23] <Bytram> something something Rio?
[02:22:41] <Bytram> Okay, this time for sure. G'night everyone!
[02:24:02] <n1> g'night
[02:49:02] <n1> Manchester story will go live in a minute
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[02:55:44] <takyon> should the japan story be moved up
[02:56:28] <takyon> meanwhile time to submit this: https://torrentfreak.com
[02:56:29] <upstart> ^ 03Copyright Troll Attorney John Steele Disbarred by Illinois Supreme Court - TorrentFreak
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[02:58:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was gonna but i figured it was slightly too TechDirt-ish for us
[02:59:48] <takyon> ppl love that stuf
[03:01:55] <n1> i dont see a problem with it
[03:02:43] <n1> takyon, i would have moved it, but it went live as i saved the manchester story, so decided was too late
[03:02:58] <takyon> I just did it
[03:03:13] <n1> fair enough
[03:03:43] <takyon> John Steele is tha name of a marvel character
[03:05:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of techdirt, they're covering a scotus decision that's sposed to shut down the east texas venue shopping
[03:05:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.techdirt.com
[03:05:42] * TheMightyBuzzard pokes upstart
[03:05:42] <upstart> ^ 03Sorry East Texas: Supreme Court Slams The Door On Patent Jurisdiction Shopping | Techdirt
[03:06:56] <takyon> take a look at the previously section for this, TheMightyBuzzard: https://soylentnews.org
[03:06:59] <upstart> ^ 03Former Prenda Law Attorney Disbarred by Illinois Supreme Court: SoylentNews Submission
[03:08:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, ya, i been following the whole big Prenda mess on TD for years. just wasn't sure if it was really our thing.
[03:09:10] <takyon> IMO it's the kind of story that is natural for here. although torrents are passé now with AC trolls
[03:09:54] <n1> agree
[03:10:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> rock on with ya bad self then
[07:22:24] <Bytram> takyon: TheMightyBuzzard; I've followed the Prenda Law case all along on Ars Technica -- Definitely a saga which warranted many Many bags of popcorn!
[07:22:43] <Bytram> Oh, and I pushed that submission out into the story queue.
[07:22:53] <Bytram> and don't ask what I am doing awake at thisunholy hour.
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[16:17:58] <mechanicjay> I've chucked a Breaking News Roger Moore has passed away story in the queue.
[16:18:13] <mechanicjay> story is only an hour or two old.
[16:31:55] <cmn32480> IT isn't breaking news... I saw it at 6am Eastern
[16:34:17] <mechanicjay> ...fine
[16:34:43] <mechanicjay> West Coast discrimination I tell you!
[16:37:17] <cmn32480> nah.. the left coast doesn't discriminate as long as you agree with them and think how they think you sould!
[16:38:39] * mechanicjay sighs
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[16:38:49] <cmn32480> gp ahead... tell me I'm wrong
[16:59:53] <n1> youre wrong
[17:00:53] <cmn32480> who're wrong?
[17:01:16] <cmn32480> I'm usually wrong about somethign... what was it this time?
[17:03:34] <n1> EVERYTHING!
[17:03:48] <cmn32480> when the fuck did you become my wife?
[17:06:34] <n1> lol
[18:13:50] <takyon> deleted TMB's latest sub
[18:14:48] <takyon> at any rate, it's not that outlandish that the target was chosen because it was full of teenage haram girls dancing to songs from a "Dangerous Woman" (an album title)
[18:17:54] <cmn32480> what was the sub?
[18:25:16] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[18:25:18] <upstart> ^ 03The bombing at a Manchester Ariana Grande show was an attack on girls and women.: SoylentNews Submission
[18:28:33] <takyon> one thing I've realized is that when ACs whine that we accept too many TMB subs, we can't show them a neat list of rejected ones because they are mostly submitted through Mr. Plow / exec
[18:36:59] <cmn32480> crap like that one definetly needs to get dropped
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[18:49:06] <charon_> ~gday editorial
[18:49:08] * exec cromulently inserts a matrix of lua scripts into editorial
[19:15:20] <n1> howdy charon_
[19:18:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, some of them i submit just for yall's amusement
[19:24:00] <Xyem> Evening.
[19:31:22] <charon_> hiyo n1, Xyem
[19:31:30] <charon_> and TheMightyBuzzard
[19:32:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not really here, just checking news feeds before i jump on me some assassin's creed 4
[19:32:07] <charon_> so, we're meant to laugh, cringe, and reject?
[19:32:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> sometimes, yep.
[19:33:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a little more fun than just dropping a link in channel
[19:34:20] <charon_> advanced trolling. sometimes you get all the eds on the hook too
[19:35:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, every now and then yall let something through and i'm like "WTF?! That shouldn't have gotten approved."
[19:35:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly on weekends
[19:36:25] <charon_> milo reports that breitbart reports that trump is a 47-D chess wizard
[19:36:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, gots me some ships to board and some booty to plunder
[19:36:59] <charon_> heheh, booty. enjoy'
[20:03:20] <cmn32480> ~eds just a heads up I will be out of touch until Saturday afternoon. Might be around tomorrow night, but not sure. Not that I do much anymore....
[20:03:22] <exec> editor ping for cmn32480 (reason: just a heads up i will be out of touch until saturday afternoon. might be around tomorrow night, but not sure. not that i do much anymore....): janrinok zz_janrinok n1 nick martyb Bytram cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away Fnord666 charon GreatOutdoors FatPhil Snow goodie mrpg
[20:04:54] <n1> going to sail the seven seas and return with spices, the likes of which we have never seen?
[20:45:48] * n1 notes we currently have a rare 0 comments story
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[21:04:25] <n1> https://www.yahoo.com
[21:04:27] <upstart> ^ 03Duterte declares martial law in southern Philippines
[21:15:08] <n1> https://www.bloomberg.com
[21:15:09] <upstart> ^ 03SpaceX Technician Says Concerns About Test Results Got Him Fired - Bloomberg
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[23:36:44] <takyon> spacex story sounds juicy