#editorial | Logs for 2017-05-19

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[02:13:56] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[02:13:59] <upstart> ^ 03Fire at Google I/O conference injures 3 - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[02:16:39] <Bytram> http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com
[02:16:40] <upstart> ^ 033 Injured, One Critically, In Fire At Google I/O Conference laquo CBS San Francisco
[02:20:37] <nick> im sure theres a joke to be made there somewhere
[02:22:28] <Bytram> nick: s/a /a sick /
[02:22:30] <exec> <Bytram> <nick> im sure theres a sick joke to be made there somewhere
[02:23:44] <nick> well obviously
[02:26:05] <Bytram> ;)
[02:26:58] <Bytram> nick: hows things? Had an untimely scorcher here today... temps got up to 90+ degrees Fahrenheit
[02:31:52] <nick> things are alright... strong winds today, so its been rather cool
[02:32:00] <nick> definitely heading into more wintery weather
[02:32:23] <Bytram> ahh, you're still in the southern hemisphere? As we approach summer up here, you are heading into winter, right?
[02:33:04] <nick> yup
[02:33:54] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:34:44] <nick> although i will be heading back to the US in a couple months or so
[02:36:13] <Bytram> let me know if you are ever heading up to the northeast US -- would be nice to get together and chat.
[02:36:21] <Bytram> btw, how's that new laptop working out for ya?
[02:37:55] <nick> would like to but it's probably not going to happen, going to be going back to MI to see the sights i didn't and do the touristy bit, that was under several feet of snow last time i was there
[02:38:12] <nick> then a road trip down to TX and then FL
[02:38:14] <Bytram> that WOULD cut down on visibility just a tad, I suppose.
[02:39:14] <nick> laptop is doing good, working well for everything ive used it for so far
[02:39:28] <Bytram> so glad to hear it!
[02:44:41] <Bytram> nick: great dept line in the Chinese plow story!
[02:45:59] <nick> got to be a record for using 'plow' multiple times in one story, including headline, dept, submitter and the summary
[02:48:38] <Bytram> *chuckles*
[02:49:04] <Bytram> "plough" would have been nice or twice, as well.
[02:49:31] <Bytram> (not to be confused with "plugh" IIRC, a magic word in Colossal Cave)
[03:10:06] <Bytram> just finished 2nding stories in the queue, didn't see anything really amiss... kinda bring actually... and that's a GOOD thing! You guys are the best!
[03:10:26] <Bytram> and I think it's time for me to get some shuteye... catch ya on the flip side.
[03:14:03] * nick hat tip
[03:14:06] <nick> take care Bytram
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[08:46:11] <Xyem> I'm surprised the story about that woman who didn't get a criminal charge because it would ruin her career hasn't got into the submissions list yet..
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[10:33:33] <Bytram> http://www.bbc.co.uk
[10:33:45] <upstart> ^ 03FCC votes to overturn net neutrality rules - BBC News
[10:34:02] <chromas> internet must be batin'
[10:39:21] <Bytram> ~tell charon Just another 30 or so stories and you'll overtake takyon on the "Most Active Authors" chart: https://soylentnews.org
[11:31:47] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[11:31:50] <upstart> ^ 03Julian Assange rape charges dropped, but he still faces arrest - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[11:32:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg, i was bout to copy pasta that
[11:39:11] <Xyem> If I did alright with the "editor test", should I ask to be made an editor on production or is there something else I should do first (more practice perhaps)?
[11:43:23] <Bytram> more practice would be good...
[11:43:36] <Bytram> it's not so much learning from doing the right things...
[11:43:50] <Bytram> there's the learning about what to do when when I accidentally did something worng!
[11:44:38] <Bytram> for example, a typo in the release date/time field causes it to go '1970-01-01" (IIRC) how do you recover the story?
[11:45:06] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard, any way we can stop the mneetnotes spam we are getting in the sub queue once a week for the last 4 weeks?
[11:45:14] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[11:45:16] <upstart> ^ 03Search 'meetnotes'
[11:45:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i dunno about you but i edit the db to make it a future date
[11:45:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> not so much an option for Xyem though
[11:45:42] <Xyem> Bytram: Open the story back up and change the date?
[11:45:59] <Bytram> cmn32480: yes, add a filter on one or more keywords that WILL catch the spam and not affect other submissions
[11:46:13] <Bytram> cmn32480: hmm, or is that wrt comments. :/
[11:46:27] <Bytram> Xyem: sounds good, but how are you going to find the story?
[11:48:04] <Xyem> Without looking at it.. the "back" button. Then preview it again to make sure nothing was lost.
[11:48:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, oh probably but fuck if i know what it is while my brain feels like it's been stuffed in a dirty gym sock
[11:48:48] * cmn32480 runs TMB through the rinse cycle
[11:49:31] <Bytram> Xyem: that *sounds* reasonable. assuming you haven't already closed the tab/window. Go ahead and try it on dev and see what happens... ;)
[11:49:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, Bytram can do you up a filter. he's played with em before.
[11:50:01] <Xyem> I don't close anything until I see it at the top of the list in the other window.
[11:50:48] <Bytram> WOnDERFUL!
[11:51:21] <Bytram> is tempting to *know* that I've just made a little change and skip the preview step -- it's bit me more times than I can count.
[11:51:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, best practices are all fine and good but much like you must consider edge cases in code, you must consider the possibility that you'll not pay attention and screw up in analog mode as well.
[11:52:13] <Bytram> we had a problem in the past 9and I think it's still there) that if you save a story, do "back" in your browser" and edit it again, there ends up being TWO copies in the story queue.
[11:52:38] <cmn32480> Refresh
[11:52:46] <cmn32480> not back
[11:53:07] * cmn32480 still does it occassionally by accident
[11:53:18] * Bytram sits corrected.
[11:53:25] * cmn32480 siuts upright
[11:59:30] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: cmn32480; tried to create a meetnotes filter... gave me a massive and strange filter ID # ( 90922079 )
[11:59:31] <Xyem> I only refresh the queue in the window that has only had the queue open (not editing).
[11:59:46] <Bytram> followed through anyway, and tried to save it, but does not seem to have 'taken'
[11:59:49] <Xyem> Yay for tiling WMs!
[12:00:32] <Bytram> I've run into this before, and I know PJ has a workaround... is not coming to me immediately... :/
[12:01:00] <Bytram> is also 90+ degrees in my room atm and am finding it a bit challenging to concentrate.
[12:05:17] <Bytram> don't remember what exactly I did except kept trying buttons to create a new submission filter until I got one that was more reasonable (75) and then went and filled it out and saved it.
[12:06:26] <Bytram> now, whenever a submitted story contains 'meetnotes' any place in the story text (upper/lowercase ignored), they will get a message: "
[12:06:27] <Bytram> Please do not spam our story submission queue."
[12:06:41] <Bytram> cmn32480: at least it is supposed to... please give it a test.
[12:06:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, db edited your filter n it shows up now
[12:07:22] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I got it to work using the UI
[12:07:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but you missed the g flag and put two other flags to 1 where it should have been 0
[12:07:52] <Bytram> something strange about "you got to 'create' it and save it, before you can put anything in it'
[12:08:06] <Bytram> oh, okay
[12:08:08] <Bytram> thanks@!
[12:08:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[12:08:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[12:08:11] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 9
[12:08:53] <Bytram> hmmm, why would I need the "g": flag?
[12:10:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> technically you shouldn't but every other filter is using it. if you're going to be redundant, do it consistently.
[12:10:59] <Bytram> I see 6 without it, but whatevah
[12:11:08] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[12:11:57] <Bytram> is too hot to really concentrate much, am simultaneously trying to do some offline work stuff, and get ready for work...
[12:12:04] <Bytram> gonna be afk for a bit
[12:46:16] <Bytram> cmn32480: Hi! Gots a quick question for ya... ISTR on my old lappy running XP, I could set things up so that when I was connected to my 1920x1200 external display, I used the whole available resolution, but when I was using the internal (1024x768) it would have a 'virtual' desktop that was still 1920x1200, and the lappy display would show me a 'window' onto it... was nice as it kept the same size/layout of all my programs. o/w
[12:46:16] <Bytram> everything got squished to fit to the 1024x768 and when I went back to the external monitor, things were all scrunched up into a corner. Is there a way to do the 'virtual desktop' with Win 7?
[12:47:14] <Bytram> PS: when running 'docked' I do not use the lappy's display at all.
[12:47:34] <Bytram> afk back in about 15 minutes
[13:00:27] <cmn32480> AFAIK that only happens in remote desktop
[13:04:32] <Bytram> urgh... was SO useful. Maybe that was earlier than XP. Is one of the problems of being a gray/white beard... know too much stuff!
[13:04:38] <Bytram> apprecaite the quick response!
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[19:34:51] <meetnotes> i'd like to complain that you guys refuse to run my story about meetnotes, the most revolutionary software ever
[19:45:09] <cmn32480> #smake charon_
[19:45:09] * MrPlow smakes charon_ upside the head with a trojan horse penis
[19:45:15] <cmn32480> #smake meetnotes
[19:45:15] * MrPlow smakes meetnotes upside the head with a fistful of dollars
[19:45:25] <cmn32480> .kick meetnotes
[19:45:25] -!- meetnotes was kicked from #editorial by Hephaestus!Hephaestus@dodekatheon.olympus.gr [(cmn32480) No reason given]
[19:50:22] <nick> lol
[19:50:37] <cmn32480> it was deserved!
[19:52:51] <Deucalion> privileges can be removed just as easily as they were given. >-|
[19:55:24] <chromas> is that a cyclops face?
[19:55:32] * nick goes back to swimming in his indoor pool that the storm last night created
[19:55:33] <chromas> or no-eyes with a nose?
[19:57:42] <cmn32480> Deucalion - should you choose to fire me, I would be eternally grateful
[19:58:29] <cmn32480> indoor swimming pool? basement flooded?
[19:59:35] <chromas> cmn32480: not fire, just move you down into Storage B.
[19:59:53] <cmn32480> shoudl I take care of the cockroach problem while I'm down there?
[20:00:50] <chromas> Yeah, that would be great.
[20:01:00] <nick> cmn32480, no basement... strong storm all night, still raining now, managed to blow in almost an inch of water that pooled up by the front door
[20:02:51] * cmn32480 notes that it took Deucalion 2 minutes and 14 seconds to chide him about the privs thing... somebody is slacking.
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[20:15:16] <meetnotes> awww, you kicked me
[20:15:28] <Deucalion> cmn32480, was busy setting up my 2nd screen - the pole and cable arrived for it while I was out working today. YAY! Rocking dual 24" - and man is it *nice* to have all this workspace!
[20:15:57] <meetnotes> cmn32480: now i see why gewg doesn't like you
[20:21:24] <Xyem> Dual screens are nice :)
[20:28:04] <Fnord666> Howdy #editorial!
[20:28:43] <nick> ahoy-hoy Fnord666
[20:29:03] <Fnord666> hey nick
[20:29:12] <nick> how's shit
[20:29:23] <Xyem> Evening Fnord
[20:29:39] <Fnord666> Howdy Xyem
[20:30:03] <Fnord666> nick - busier that a one legged man in an ass kicking contest but other than that I'm good. Yourself
[20:30:07] <Fnord666> ?
[20:30:26] <Fnord666> Nice to meet you Xyem. Enjoying things so far?
[20:30:50] <nick> i really can't complain, aside from a minor floor by my front door all is well... savouring my afternoon snack of cigarettes and chocolate milk
[20:31:05] <Fnord666> umm...yum?
[20:31:18] <Xyem> Indeed I am, thanks :)
[20:31:23] <meetnotes> hiyo Fnord666, nick, Xyem
[20:31:38] <nick> it works for me, maybe it's a bit of a weird thing i guess?
[20:31:44] <Fnord666> As long as the flood is outside and not inside.
[20:31:52] <nick> ahoy meatspam
[20:32:20] <Xyem> meetnotes: Evening.
[20:32:31] <Xyem> How goes things?
[20:32:44] <nick> Fnord666, unfortunately it is inside
[20:33:03] <Fnord666> Well that kind of sucks
[20:33:06] <nick> storm last night managed to blow almost an inch of rain into the area by the front door
[20:33:16] <Fnord666> oh dear.
[20:33:26] <nick> nothing damaged, and i managed to scoop up most of it.... but it does mean the floor is rather slippery right now
[20:33:38] <Fnord666> no damage is good
[20:33:51] <nick> however, i decided to check out the a/c unit... and it also works as a heater, so i'm using that to dry the rest out
[20:34:09] <nick> which also solves other heating concerns, although it will be used sparingly.
[20:34:18] <Xyem> Slippery floor? That sounds like an opportunity. Let the shenanigans begin!
[20:34:18] <Fnord666> dehumidifier helps too if you have one. and lots of airflow
[20:34:41] <Xyem> Do you have anything sled-like?
[20:34:47] <nick> if i opened the doors and windows at the moment, would just bring more rain in lol
[20:35:08] <meetnotes> if you used meetnotes, you could alert all your friends to come to your house and have a floor drying party
[20:35:39] <nick> i've been carefully plodding and sliding around this afternoon
[20:36:00] <nick> it's a bit dodgy when you're carrying glasses and plates and you just start to slip
[20:37:23] <nick> but still, i have chocolate milk and cigarettes so i'm not complaining.... just need to find something suitable seal the gap under the door
[20:37:30] <nick> don't want this every time it rains
[20:39:04] <meetnotes> i suppose digging a drainage channel is not likely
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[21:09:35] <nick> http://www.maritime-executive.com
[21:09:37] <upstart> ^ 03U.K. Issues Antarctic Terrorism Alert
[21:10:10] <nick> "“Although there’s no recent history of terrorism in the British Antarctic Territory, attacks can’t be ruled out,” says the advisory. “There’s a heightened threat of terrorist attack globally against U.K. interests and British nationals, from groups or individuals motivated by the conflict in Iraq and Syria.”"
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[21:47:03] <charon_> ~gday editorial
[21:47:05] * exec excoriatingly experiences a drawing of the Gilligan's Island theme song with editorial
[22:01:54] <Xyem> Evening charon
[22:12:47] <charon_> how goes it Xyem?
[22:14:12] <Xyem> Pretty good, thanks. How about with you?
[22:15:48] <charon_> not bad. ready for my work day to be over already. alas, i have 4 more hours
[22:24:03] <charon_> looking for more to do? i'll see about dropping in some more practice subs
[22:24:28] <charon_> but i also need to feed the beast that is the prod site
[22:33:21] <Xyem> I'm happy to do more practice submissions, but you can just do it when you're not busy.
[22:38:13] <charon_> as well as work at my real job
[22:38:50] <charon_> man, how do customers B through K know when customer A is here so they can come at exactly the same time?
[22:40:53] <Xyem> Custimagic.
[22:41:13] <Deucalion> They wait outside in a horde until they see a customer being awkward or time consuming - then all flood in..... be on the watch for someone filming it on their phone in order to then post a complain vidya about how slow your service is :D
[22:41:37] <Deucalion> Then demanding shit for free because YOU inconvenienced them
[22:41:47] * Deucalion cynic off
[22:42:35] <charon_> Deucalion++ for using the correct word "horde"
[22:42:35] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 4
[22:42:54] <charon_> also, thanks for the cynicism, it's actually worse than my own
[22:45:33] <Deucalion> charon_, my cynicism is debilitating, I can no longer function in a normal way. I've seen TOO MUCH.
[22:46:34] <Deucalion> Deucalion++
[22:46:36] * nick pokes charon_
[22:46:52] <Deucalion> boo... can't hup own ego :/
[22:47:06] <nick> Deucalion++
[22:47:06] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 5
[22:47:08] <nick> Deucalion++
[22:47:08] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 6
[22:48:10] <Deucalion> I feel replete. But what do you want nick? no-one ups me without wanting something.... FACK... I said /me cynic OFF
[22:48:32] <nick> i'm happy enough to feel there's people around as cynical as me
[22:48:42] * Deucalion goes back to command line.... I'm not fit for human society :)
[22:51:39] * Deucalion has got the point that cynical does not exist, the shit I have seen with my own eyes, it's become realism. Working Retail / Hospitality / Restaurant just as a support... fuck me, the things the cmr's come up with to blag a freebie. I have no idea how the staff that have to deal with them every day don't carry battle axes.
[22:52:25] <nick> well of course, but you know relative to other people's perspectives on realism vs cynicism
[23:00:40] <charon_> a guy who used to work with me would buy a soda from me on his break and mockingly complain it wasn't cold enough and i should give it to him free for his inconvenience. alas it was not that far from reality
[23:00:57] <charon_> hiyo nick
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[23:02:20] <meetnotes> hiyo nick, have you tried meetnotes yet?
[23:02:28] meetnotes is now known as charon_
[23:02:30] <nick> just saw we both ended up on the Dell story, and then i fucked it all up by not changing the date... but i think the queue is all in order again
[23:04:14] <charon_> oh, i didn't even notice you were in it too
[23:05:03] <charon_> no worried, i was just making an initial survey, hadn't gotten far
[23:06:03] <charon_> Xyem: to do: make a giant banner across the screen that says: "someone else it editing this story already, don't be a moron"
[23:06:15] <Xyem> charon: Okay.
[23:06:19] <charon_> lol
[23:07:08] <Xyem> I already have something for Editor's notes, is that the same thing?
[23:08:17] <charon_> no. there's some function that shows editorial sessions. what story they are in will appear at the bottom of the page.
[23:08:54] <charon_> if another editor is in the same story at the same time, some text will warn you, but it's easy to miss
[23:09:07] <nick> easy to miss when you're not paying attention
[23:09:20] <nick> it's right there in bold text under the headline!
[23:09:25] <charon_> oh i see
[23:09:47] <charon_> giant banner, <marquee> text, perhaps color changing
[23:09:56] <Xyem> With sound?
[23:10:04] <charon_> yes!
[23:10:34] <Xyem> And you have to click a big checkbox that unhides the editor UI to confirm you've seen the banner.
[23:10:46] <charon_> embedded vidoe of captain picard doing a facepalm
[23:10:52] <nick> only if the sound is a mashup of window start-up music and the old AOL you got mail clip.
[23:11:33] <charon_> i'm partial to the old mac OS "eeep!"
[23:11:43] <nick> actually, maybe the sound of a dialup modem connecting would be better
[23:12:04] <charon_> ok, i can go with a modem handshake
[23:12:20] <nick> that sound needs to make a comeback, it's got to be retro by now
[23:12:26] <nick> hipsters, get on it.
[23:12:29] <Xyem> How about the modem handshake remixed with the Enterprise's red alert siren?
[23:12:47] <nick> i dont know that, but i'm guessing it would work pretty well
[23:12:54] <charon_> i would buy a t-shirt that has a waveform of that sound
[23:13:11] <charon_> so geeky no one would get it
[23:15:49] <charon_> help help, i'm being repressed
[23:16:48] <nick> there's a suggestions box you could submit your concerns to... it's made from the head of the last person who complained
[23:19:42] <Deucalion> muchos apoligensias charon_
[23:19:54] <charon_> suuuuure
[23:20:09] <charon_> now i see the violence inherent in the system
[23:20:10] <Deucalion> ehhh... I sent invites n all :P
[23:20:37] <nick> you wouldn't appreciate the carrot unless you've been beaten half to death with the stick
[23:50:43] <charon_> hah, poor Xyem. I see you had an encounter with jasassin. my sympathies