#editorial | Logs for 2017-04-15
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[01:04:04] <charon_> takyon: got it working with both interchangably. looks nice
[01:06:00] <Bytram> cmn32480: got your stories 2nded
[01:06:19] <Bytram> also got 7 stories pushed out...
[01:06:37] <Bytram> if the neighbors will keep it down for a bit, I hope to get to bed soon.
[01:07:28] <Bytram> have a great night!
[01:07:33] <Bytram> ~gnight charon_
[01:07:34] * exec overratedly violates a tin of flappy tama with charon_
[01:07:37] <Bytram> ~gnight takyon
[01:07:38] * exec ceremoniously pits a hooker full of cold pizza against takyon
[01:07:45] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[01:07:45] <charon_> ~gnight Bytram
[01:07:47] * exec proverbially postulates a raid 10 volume of dehydrated water towards cmn32480
[01:07:47] * exec explicitly flings a big floppy donkey dick of Beer-brand beer at Bytram
[01:09:07] <Bytram> dehydrated water? Is that like instant water? Just add water! (Apologies to Bugs Bunny, IIRC)
[01:09:55] <charon_> seems not very useful
[01:10:01] <charon_> have to add water to my water to get water
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[03:53:19] <takyon> charon: email me or post that code to my journal so I know what you did
[03:53:41] <charon> hah, now i blew it up adding a new feature
[03:55:17] <charon> if you have a whole new thread, you can tell it's all new. wanted to make the nextNew button not flip to each item in turn, but detect where the scroll is and jump to the next that's not in view
[03:56:00] <takyon> that's a tough one. not impossible, but easy to get wrong
[03:57:24] <takyon> pseudocode: at time of clicking the button, while (next comment is detected to be currently on screen) {iterate}
[03:58:09] <charon> yeah, i've got it mostly working now. just need to make sure it's not skipping
[03:58:10] <takyon> "currently on screen" can have various definitions.
[03:58:32] <takyon> you could check for the next node's location and detect whether the entire next comment is on screen or not
[03:58:46] <charon> i'm using the definition of "you have scrolled more than 100px past where the next item is"
[04:23:08] <charon> takyon: you have mail
[04:23:14] <takyon> k
[04:27:11] <takyon> the most annoying thing about testing this is that the *new* badges/designation disappear and you have to wait
[04:28:19] <charon> yeah, i have a page with the ?noupdate=1 so i can reload it
[04:30:44] <takyon> I'll add the disableCycler flag back in
[04:30:50] <takyon> that's a user option from the top of the page
[04:33:14] <charon> i took the liberty of renaming a variable. really? using "x" as the y coordinate?
[04:33:34] <takyon> lol
[04:34:08] <takyon> guess you don't like my obfuscated code
[04:34:25] <charon> heh, totally on purpose, eh?
[04:34:30] <takyon> I'm testing on this article: https://soylentnews.org
[04:34:33] <exec> └─ 13It's Still a Bad Idea to Text While Driving Even With a Head-up Display - SoylentNews
[04:34:45] <takyon> there's a lot of meat on these bones, since the behavior changes if you scroll manually in some direction
[04:35:30] <takyon> I'm getting a lot less skipping than I expected
[04:36:03] <takyon> for example, I skip to the "My phone pairs with my car." frojack comment, and the next click takes me to the "s/t" comment
[04:36:08] <takyon> which is in the middle of the screen
[04:36:09] <charon> i sorta designed it to skip if the top edge of the next item was scrolled out of view upwards
[04:37:28] <charon> so if there's a new parent child Gchild, you scroll up a bit and don't get dragged back to the child, but the grandchild
[04:37:51] <takyon> I can't say anything against your method
[04:38:02] <takyon> there may be some problem that is not obvious, but I don't know what it is
[04:38:36] <charon> there's still some interaction in the ++. not sure i see how to avoid it
[04:38:59] <takyon> anyway, now that you've done this, is there anything you want me to look at?
[04:39:25] <charon> anyway, if you want to skip it, all you need for integrating the other part is the first line which defines the array
[04:40:23] <charon> you know, i haven't tested the insert URL feature yet
[04:40:25] <takyon> the only idea I have written down is for an enhancement to the Quote This feature that would only quote selected text. That may be impossible due to security reasons
[04:41:27] <takyon> that button does not allow you to create a URL from scratch. it only works on selected text. maybe I should allow the user to make a URL and text from scratch, kinda like the list feature?
[04:41:30] <charon> yay, no more href="null"
[04:41:44] <takyon> yeah, it only took about 10 minutes to fix those issues
[04:42:09] <takyon> how does the spoiler button look for you?
[04:42:18] <takyon> I have gotten different heights of the button on different computers
[04:42:23] <charon> no, i greatly prefer how it is. i really like being able to select and drop the link in
[04:43:03] <takyon> I also didn't want the spacing between the little black squares, but the other unicode symbols I tried made the button look wonky
[04:43:51] <charon> decent symbolism for it. it's slightly shorter than the other buttons, so is the smallcaps
[04:43:55] <takyon> (≧∇≦)/
[04:44:18] <charon> and subscript is taller than any others. what the heck?
[04:44:32] <takyon> it looks normal on Chrome
[04:44:37] <charon> but that's nitpicky
[04:44:50] <takyon> subscript/superscript handling varies greatly on different browsers
[04:45:19] <takyon> for example, putting those inside of a hyperlink. some will underline the text from the baseline, other browser will underline high or low
[04:46:28] <takyon> how do you like your symbol/emoji options, lul
[04:46:50] <charon> far more than i will ever need
[04:47:00] <charon> (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
[04:47:21] <takyon> it's amazing that I had maybe a hundred emoji before remembering to put the EM dash in there
[04:47:26] <charon> lol
[04:47:36] <takyon> ※
[04:47:40] <charon> we see where your priorities are
[04:48:19] <charon> funny you mentioned it last night. i saw the 3em dash in a book i was reading last night
[04:48:22] <takyon> also I have two forms of the micro symbol: µ μ
[04:48:47] <takyon> I saw the three-em-dash load correctly somewhere online when I was looking around
[04:49:09] <takyon> *render correctly
[04:49:52] <takyon> the regular em dash seems to join with adjacent ones, at least in the monospaced font
[04:50:33] <takyon> I'm so glad that we have the 0/3 fraction
[04:50:37] <charon> i saw it in print. probably easier to do with the old lead cast type
[04:50:37] <takyon> very very useful
[04:51:10] <charon> 0/3? that must be one of the ones that doesn't render in PaleMoon
[04:51:23] <takyon> won't render in hexchat: ↉
[04:51:56] <charon> and the ever useful triple integral
[04:52:40] <takyon> ∭ ↺ ∴ ⌘ ☢ ☯ ☮ ☭ ☪ Δ ⚡ 🌟 💤 😵
[04:52:43] <charon> by the way, this is a site issue, but the title field rejects unicode
[04:52:55] <takyon> I think I've already submitted a bug report on that
[04:53:05] <charon> i wanted to put musical notes in one time, and it stripped them out
[04:53:10] <takyon> https://github.com
[04:54:44] <charon> 💔
[04:55:39] <takyon> i like how my tatooine sub was split into 2 adjacent stories
[04:57:24] <charon> i haven't edited anything all day. i see one on deck, what's the second part of it?
[04:57:42] <charon> oh, extracting water?
[04:58:39] <charon> well, you did say it was unrelated right in the sub
[05:00:51] <takyon> yeaa
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[11:32:23] <Bytram> takyon: you noticed the submission split, eh? thought you might. Must admit that in all my time here, that's the very first time I recall someone getting credit for TWO stories with one submission!
[14:35:31] <takyon> almost. I think some user like P666 tried to submit lots of stories in one submission before
[18:35:47] <n1> afternoon #editorial
[19:10:48] <Fnord666> howdy #editorial
[19:17:02] <n1> ahoy, Fnord666
[19:18:01] <Fnord666> howdy. How's n1 today?
[19:19:11] <n1> doing alright thanks, needing to eat
[19:19:15] <n1> how about Fnord666
[19:19:49] <Fnord666> doing ok. getting over an upper respiratory infection that's had me feeling crappy for the last week
[19:19:59] <Fnord666> damn allergies
[19:23:41] <n1> :(
[19:23:55] <n1> at least you're on the way back now?
[19:24:52] <Fnord666> yep
[19:25:16] <Fnord666> feeling better now
[19:25:53] <n1> good
[19:26:24] <Fnord666> thanks
[19:26:48] <Fnord666> nothign a good cup of tea can't fix.
[19:27:47] <n1> really glad i don't suffer from allergies
[19:28:09] * n1 eats empanadas
[19:28:14] <Fnord666> some years it's fine and other years not so much.
[19:28:26] <Fnord666> empanadas++
[19:28:26] <Bender> karma - empanadas: 1
[19:28:45] <n1> these are left over from yesterday, but they are home made by a friend of mine
[19:29:28] <Fnord666> even better
[19:29:55] <n1> beef, bacon, olives, red and green peppers
[19:30:19] <n1> one has raisins instead of olives
[19:30:24] <n1> which works better than i expected
[19:31:22] <Fnord666> that's different
[19:32:17] <Fnord666> they sound delicious though
[19:32:40] <n1> adds another level of flavour and a bit of sweetness
[19:35:41] <Fnord666> interesting
[19:36:47] <n1> the local cuisine here is rather plain most of the time
[19:38:33] <Fnord666> that's unfortunate
[19:39:54] <Fnord666> but perhaps a side effect of feeding the masses
[19:45:41] <n1> i know an american girl here who's married to a local, and apparently nothing pleases him more than chicken, rice and mayonnaise
[19:46:59] <n1> in the supermarket section for table sauces, mayonnaise makes up 3/4 of it
[19:48:36] <Fnord666> interesting. disturbing, but interesting
[19:50:33] <Fnord666> I wonder if that's related to the climate maybe?
[19:51:59] <n1> i'm really not sure, from what i understand other countries nearby have a much more interesting cuisine
[19:52:45] <n1> generally, when looking for cooking sauces and seasoning, i end up buying stuff made in mexico
[19:56:09] <Fnord666> At least they're available to you.
[19:59:28] <n1> have to make the most of it when it is
[19:59:35] <n1> things go out of stock for weeks at a time
[20:00:15] <n1> i buy all the baked beans i can when they're on the shelves
[20:03:30] <Fnord666> That happens with some things here as well. It pays to get to know the stock people.
[20:14:05] <takyon> replace mayo with ranch and we have a deal
[20:20:38] <takyon> here's a recipe: cook steakums or equivalent. use the grease to cook onions or mushrooms or tomatoes. combine with cooked white rice, banana peppers, and add garlic powder, ranch, and sriracha to taste
[20:21:19] <takyon> it's the stuff you make when you're too lazy to make hummus + rice + etc.
[20:40:50] <n1> cant get ranch here
[21:36:11] <chromas> :O
[21:36:22] <chromas> You'll have to make it and start up a business
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[23:55:16] <n1_> OMG ITS CHARON_
[23:59:38] <charon_> high fives for everyone!
[23:59:47] <charon_> ~gday n1_
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