#editorial | Logs for 2017-04-07

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[01:15:03] <Bytram> takyon: yah... I didn't notice your "Trifecta" story was off on another day, so my automagicator tool to calculate the next story date/time worked off the wrong base. Once I saw what happened, I just gave it a different offset on the story list to use as a base to calculate from, edited the stories, and got it all fixed.
[01:17:25] <n1_> apparently air strikes against asaad has now started
[01:17:39] <Bytram> who's attacking?
[01:17:46] <n1_> US
[01:17:53] <Bytram> oh, swell.
[01:18:22] <Bytram> Bytram had 8 hits totaling 1078 points, had 0 drops, and had 10 blocked attacks.
[01:18:22] <Bytram> chromas had 9 hits totaling 822 points, had 0 drops, and had 9 blocked attacks.
[01:18:30] <Bytram> oops, wrong channel... sorry!
[01:18:33] <n1_> 'US has launched more than 50 tomahawk missles at airfield near Homs. Russians were warned before hand' - Ayman Mohyeldin MSNBC
[01:19:09] <n1_> http://www.nbcnews.com
[01:19:10] <exec> └─ 13U.S. Launches Missiles at Syrian Base After Chemical Weapons Attack - NBC News
[01:20:14] <n1_> but at least the trump administration and the 'msm' have found some common ground, moar bombs
[01:21:30] <Bytram> when elephants fite, the grass does not fare so well.
[01:21:43] * Bytram badly recalls an old saying
[01:22:41] <Bytram> http://www.afriprov.org
[01:22:50] <exec> └─ 13Nov. 2001 Proverb: " When elephants fight the grass (reeds) gets hurt." - Swahili ( Eastern and Central Africa ), Also Gikuyu ( Kenya), Kuria ( Kenya/Tanzania), Ngoreme (Tanzania)
[01:24:29] <n1_> get involved in enough war/conflict, eventually one will be a winner i guess
[01:25:42] * Bytram is weary of all the fighting in the world -- too much of "us vs. them"
[01:26:50] <n1_> yup
[01:28:02] <Bytram> Imagine what the world would be like if, when seeing someone who is down, we all worked together to help raise him up (knowing it might be ourself someday), instead of kicking him when he is down.
[01:28:39] <Bytram> Is life a zero-sum game? I think not.
[01:29:40] <chromas> Oh yes it is! Wanna fight about it?
[01:30:34] <Bytram> sure, take a look in #fite (but, it's a little late -- I won) ;)
[01:30:46] <n1_> following the events of the last few years and more specifically the last year... i'm just done with politics, and the general social discourse... the whole thing is toxic and i want no part of it anymore. my desire to try and share perspective, find common ground etc... i don't have the energy anymore
[01:32:20] <Bytram> I find it helps to find like-minded souls with whom I can gain comfort that it is NOT me against the dystopian world -- that others share my hopes...
[01:32:34] <Bytram> "There is not enough dark in the world to extinguish a single candle."
[01:32:53] <Bytram> afk -- time to prepare dinner -- biab
[01:33:40] <n1_> will continue to observe and read, but will not form opinions or try and convince anyone of the validity of my experiences or perspectives i'm aware of
[01:36:43] <n1_> which ultimately i actually think is the point of this... pick a side or shut the fuck up
[01:36:53] <n1_> so i'm going to shut the fuck up
[01:37:55] <Bytram> I'm saddened to hear you are so world-weary.
[01:38:28] <chromas> There is another option.
[01:38:37] <chromas> Join the trolls. :D
[01:38:44] <Bytram> no thanks.
[01:38:48] <Bytram> break time
[01:38:57] <chromas> Stir the pot, be amused watching people throw fits.
[01:39:00] <n1_> me too, but at least for now i dont see any way to be constructive in my commentary or perspectives in the current climate
[01:39:31] <n1_> chromas, i can see the appeal, but if i wanted to be an asshole, i'd do it in a way that was profitable.
[01:39:52] <chromas> Create a 'news' website with ads ;)
[01:40:16] <chromas> Nickington Post or Bytbart.
[01:40:24] <Bytram> FWIW, I find it best to share my experiences and perspecitives without expectation that I will change anyone else's, and I listen to them do the same -- they are just as entitled to their viewpoint as I am mine. It's amazing how many times I learn something.
[01:41:42] <n1_> news websites are only really profitable when you are being paid to push someone else's agenda... plenty of people are spreading destructive troll bullshit for free, because they believe in it
[01:43:05] <Bytram> I profit, not in things that pay my rent, but in the kind of man that I am growing up to be.
[01:43:49] <n1_> Bytram, i'm still interested in other's perspectives, as i'm still observing the world, whats happening will still continue to affect me
[01:44:03] <Bytram> n1++
[01:44:03] <Bender> karma - n1: 34
[01:44:35] <Bytram> I find that the shortest distance between despair and hope is a filling meal and a good night's sleep.
[01:44:50] <Bytram> afk brb
[01:45:07] <chromas> a wank and a wink
[01:45:48] <n1_> heh
[01:50:11] <n1_> a few dozen missiles later... BREAKING: Trump calls on 'civilized nations' to join U.S. in 'seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria.'
[01:50:20] <n1_> BREAKING: President Donald Trump says strike on Syria in the 'vital national security interest' of the United States.
[01:53:11] <n1_> apparently speaking to reporters at mar-a-lago, but no live feed because of technical limitations there
[02:00:48] <n1_> "From MSNBC to CNN, Trump is receiving his best night of press so far. And all he had to do was start a war."
[02:14:00] <Bytram> I'm working on a story atm
[02:18:09] <Bytram> Okay, almost done with a breaking story on the attack.
[02:19:34] <Bytram> tagged it as NOT display, scheduled to go out at 0230 UTC (in about 10 minutes)...
[02:19:49] <cmn32480> checking it now
[02:19:58] <Bytram> gracias!
[02:20:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> there is something in it about whatzisgoober using sarin gas on one of his own cities a day or so ago, yes?
[02:20:29] <Bytram> yes
[02:20:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good
[02:21:03] <n1_> "What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval." Donald Trump 29 Aug 2013
[02:21:06] <Bytram> I elided a part of the story that mentioned that the Chinese president was currently in town for discussions... am having second thoughts about leaving that out.
[02:21:27] <Bytram> I'm sure making an impression on the Chinese had nothing to do with it.
[02:21:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not particularly interested in being involved with syria but relevant facts are relevant facts.
[02:21:54] <Bytram> https://mobile.nytimes.com
[02:21:55] <n1_> well the facts are the US 'believes' it was the Syrian government
[02:21:56] <exec> └─ 13Dozens of U.S. Missiles Hit Air Base in Syria - NYTimes.com
[02:22:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> n1_, primarily because we know they have chemical weapons while we're pretty sure ISIS doesn't
[02:22:43] <n1_> but opposition groups within syria do
[02:22:53] <n1_> according to the list of chemical weapons attacks in syria
[02:22:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly
[02:23:08] <n1_> more than half have been attributed to rebel groups last time i looked
[02:23:48] <n1_> the other side has claimed that they hit a building that the rebels were using to manufacture chemical weapons
[02:24:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah, i mean they would, wouldn't they? dude's all about the false flag op.
[02:24:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> has been since day one. even when outright busted.
[02:24:46] <n1_> https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:24:47] <exec> └─ 13Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian civil war - Wikipedia
[02:25:14] <Bytram> cmn32480: just got a link withmore info from NYT: https://mobile.nytimes.com
[02:25:16] <exec> └─ 13Dozens of U.S. Missiles Hit Air Base in Syria - NYTimes.com
[02:25:34] <Bytram> let me know when you are done with the story and I can paste ina couple more things
[02:25:34] <cmn32480> ill back out
[02:25:41] <Bytram> finsh what you're doing, first
[02:25:57] <cmn32480> i'm out already
[02:25:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> too much past my bedtime to research and i'm no way in hell taking wikipedia's libtard views on an important subject.
[02:26:12] <Bytram> cmn32480: k
[02:26:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> really though, i don't care much if we're there or not. i'd prefer we not be but it doesn't affect how the fish are biting over here.
[02:27:52] <n1_> indeed
[02:28:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean the government will do what the government will do. they haven't given a shit what the people want in a long time.
[02:29:17] <n1_> agreed
[02:30:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm zen-ing it like i did with BHO
[02:31:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, now i'm annoyed. only 120 chars for a sig?
[02:32:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> "If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had power, would be justified in silencing mankind." would make a damned good sig
[02:32:31] <Bytram> cmn32480: done. rescheduled it for 0240 UTC, added link & quote for NYT
[02:32:34] <cmn32480> file a bug report
[02:32:46] <cmn32480> bytram - checking
[02:32:57] <Bytram> go to *plaid*
[02:33:55] * TheMightyBuzzard pushes the lever to ludicrous speed
[02:34:00] <n1_> commentators are really liking this situation as a 'message to north korea'
[02:34:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> commentators are idiots. dance, monkeys, dance.
[02:35:14] <n1_> they're well paid monkeys at Stratfor
[02:35:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya. people like dancing monkeys.
[02:36:08] <Bytram> If I am doing my math right, missiles were launched at 2030 EDT, so about 0330 local time, Syria
[02:37:08] <n1_> possibly worth noting the russians were notified ahead of time so they could clear out
[02:37:18] <n1_> since they had presence at the target
[02:37:26] <Bytram> good point.
[02:38:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'a very good thing to do. i do not wanna fight russia.
[02:38:52] <Bytram> likewise.
[02:39:19] <Bytram> I've met a few russians who have moved to the US... really nice folks, every single one of 'em.
[02:40:33] <cmn32480> did they take their time?
[02:40:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yarp. if you stick to nations that've developed since the 1500s or so, people are gonna be largely just people.
[02:40:34] <Bytram> Then again, I meet them through working with the public which generally does not include folks who want to stage uprisings and the like.
[02:44:11] <Bytram> Oh! I almost forgot!
[02:44:24] <Bytram> I'd sent an e-mail to JR and got a nice reply back.
[02:44:52] <n1_> whats going on with JR, everything ok?
[02:45:31] <Bytram> Some family members had operations and are recuperating as expected; he's been on doctor's orders to get rest and is doing okay... just having trouble getting a sleep schedule that works for him and for taking care of S.
[02:45:51] <Bytram> He actually popped in a couple days ago and 2nded some stories I'd pushed out.
[02:46:14] <n1_> yeah i think he 2nded mine too
[02:46:18] <n1_> glad he's ok
[02:46:27] <Bytram> Seemed to be in good spirits and very grateful for my chcking in. asked me topass on his best to the gang here.
[02:47:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> top ass?
[02:47:19] <cmn32480> that's what I read
[02:47:33] <charon> if the shoe fits...
[02:47:39] <Bytram> where's clorox|2 when you need 'im?
[02:47:52] <Bytram> Seemed to be in good spirits and very grateful for my checking in. asked me to pass on his best to the gang here.
[02:47:58] * cmn32480 passes the stainlifter
[02:48:11] <cmn32480> top ass?
[02:48:21] <Bytram> nagger updated with another sub.
[02:48:34] <Bytram> !grab cmn32480
[02:48:34] <Bender> Added quote 60
[02:49:32] <charon> Bytram: it's good to hear that things are well with him. thanks for reaching out
[02:49:45] <Bytram> np hth
[02:49:48] * n1_ is unsure if he approves of military escalation being explicitly 'politics'
[02:50:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> breaking gnus, no?
[02:51:18] * cmn32480 waves gnight to all
[02:51:23] <cmn32480> ~gnight #editorial
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[02:51:31] <charon> ~gnight cmn32480
[02:51:31] * n1_ hat tip cmn32480
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[02:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> clausewitz would say it's properly categorized though
[02:52:18] * Bytram added an intro paragraph to the syria story
[02:52:44] <Bytram> and, with that, it's time for my beauty sleep... have an earlier day tomorrow.
[02:52:52] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[02:52:53] * exec cohesively queefs a stack of chocolate chips at cmn32480
[02:52:54] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[02:52:55] * exec disturbingly gives birth to some stock footage of various oscillators for TheMightyBuzzard
[02:52:58] <Bytram> ~gnight charon
[02:52:59] * exec inadequately throws a loaded diaper of pork at charon
[02:53:01] <Bytram> ~gnight n1_
[02:53:03] * exec analiciously integrates two fingers of linux with n1_
[02:53:07] <charon> ~gnight Bytram
[02:53:09] * exec excoriatingly hangs a trigger warning sign about a data stream of maturity juice on Bytram
[02:53:12] * n1_ hat tip Bytram
[02:53:47] <Bytram> "maturity juice' -- that 'splains the gray hairs
[02:53:49] <Bytram> ;)
[02:53:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight Bytram
[02:53:54] * exec retroactively gives a vial of pain and suffering to Bytram
[02:54:05] <Bytram> gee. thanks. :P
[02:54:15] <Bytram> ;)
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[21:35:08] <mrpg> well i just did some stories and submitted one about the next w10 update, go check it out.
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[22:27:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: we got 4 more visits from EFknockr today, but only saw join & part msgs... seems like the blocker is working. =)
[22:27:05] <Bytram> https://www.nature.com
[22:27:07] <exec> └─ 13Mobile-phone signals bolster street-level rain forecasts : Nature News & Comment
[23:58:27] <Bytram> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[23:58:29] <exec> └─ 13These high school journalists investigated a new principal’s credentials. Days later, she resigned. - The Washington Post
[23:58:34] <Bytram> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[23:58:36] <exec> └─ 13A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest. How she got there is a mystery. - The Washington Post