#editorial | Logs for 2017-03-16
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[00:33:58] <charon_> annnnnnnnd, idiots and flamebait in the comments of the arctic story
[00:35:39] <charon_> maybe we need to make a post education people about the -0 Disagree moderation
[01:37:31] <paulej72> hello all
[01:42:12] <charon_> hiyo paulej72
[01:44:05] <paulej72> been writing code and testing how about you charon_
[01:53:15] <charon_> i've been enjoying the last few weeks of low customer flow before spring begins
[01:53:37] <charon_> and today i built a thing for a customer because she was hideously inept
[01:55:34] <cmn32480> but was she hot?
[01:56:21] <cmn32480> or at least had a good personality
[01:58:04] <paulej72> build your own dildos?
[01:58:12] <charon_> no and no. but she did tip me $20
[01:59:17] <cmn32480> charon's new title "Fleshlight Assembly Specialist"
[01:59:23] <cmn32480> noice
[01:59:27] <cmn32480> $20!
[02:00:17] <charon_> uh, don't ask how i know this, but a fleshlight is the opposite of a dildo
[02:01:00] <paulej72> yes we know, but I like the fleshlight title better
[02:02:17] <Bytram> seemed like a bright idea, eh?
[02:02:39] <charon_> alas, for the rest of this scintillating conversation; worktime is over and i am going home
[02:02:57] <charon_> feel free to mock me in my absence
[02:04:06] <Bytram> hmmm
[02:04:06] <Bytram> ~define mock
[02:04:08] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03Mock: VERB: 1. To treat somebody or something with scorn or contempt. 2. Mimic somebody: To imitate somebody in a way that is intended to make that person appear silly or ridiculous. 3. To prevent somethin...
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[02:04:54] <cmn32480> charon - we will mock you. but it is far more fun while you are here.
[02:06:16] <Bytram> We will... We will... Mock You!
[02:06:42] <cmn32480> yes... .yes we will
[02:06:43] <Bytram> break time -- make dinner
[02:07:04] <Bytram> what was the name of that song? We are the Campions?
[02:07:09] <Bytram> *Champions
[02:07:40] <cmn32480> We will Rock you....
[02:07:48] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[02:07:50] <exec> └─ 13Queen - We Are The Champions (Official Video) - YouTube
[02:07:54] <cmn32480> we are the champions is also queen... but different song
[02:08:06] <cmn32480> #yt we will rock you
[02:08:06] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[02:08:17] * Bytram must be *very * tired to get 'em confused.
[02:08:31] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[02:08:33] <exec> └─ 13Queen - We Will Rock You (Official Video) - YouTube
[02:08:43] <cmn32480> that's what I said
[02:08:52] <Bytram> oh, wait... doesn't one kinda feed into the other?
[02:09:10] <Bytram> sorta like Jackson Brown's "Stay"?
[02:09:24] * cmn32480 shrugs
[02:14:39] <paulej72> We Will Rock you/Wea are the Campions is played together many times and is that way on the complation cd Classic Queen
[02:15:27] <Bytram> thanks for that! I *just* listened to "Wel Will Rock You" and it ended "way too soon".
[02:17:09] <cmn32480> crap... tomorrow is the anniversary of the day we met...
[02:17:18] * cmn32480 goes looking to buy flowers and have them show up]
[02:20:33] <Bytram> paulej72: looks much better! I just realized that I was comparing the radius of the icons to those on the buttons on the page.
[02:20:39] <Bytram> cf: https://chillax.soylentnews.org
[02:25:34] <charon> oh, i guess i don't have a login for chillax
[02:27:45] <paulej72> did you get setup with a kerberos login
[02:28:08] <charon> at least one of those words does not make sense to me
[02:28:33] <charon> but i figure it doesn't matter anyway. if i haven't needed it so far, i will continue to not need it
[02:29:20] * cmn32480 passes charon more sand to bury hus head in
[02:29:38] <paulej72> well staff should be setup with a login to staff.soylentnews.org. and once that is done, a kerberos login can be setup for the user
[02:30:32] <paulej72> but to login to staff, requires an ssh key login rather than a password based one
[02:30:39] <charon> i mean, i know kerberos, he's a big softie if you bring him three steaks. but he's never let me into the computer lab
[02:31:26] <paulej72> well if you use winodows domain logins you do. It is based on the MIT Kerberos system
[02:31:44] * charon is shocked
[02:31:57] * cmn32480 turns up the voltage
[02:32:23] <charon> um, thanks?
[02:33:10] <cmn32480> welcome
[02:33:28] <charon> paulej72: i dunno. is it actually useful to have yet another account on another server?
[02:34:07] <paulej72> well staff slash has not been used much latley so probably not
[02:38:25] <Bytram> OTOH, it is the site that has all of the discussion that I had with Matt_ on the incorporation docs
[02:38:29] <Bytram> =)
[02:39:21] <charon> so it would be helpful if i ever have insomnia?
[02:40:40] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:57:21] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[02:57:23] <exec> └─ 13AMD’s Zen goes mainstream with Ryzen 5: 4 cores, 8 threads, from $169 | Ars Technica
[02:57:46] <Bytram> https://www.cnet.com
[02:57:48] <exec> └─ 13AMD Ryzen 5 processors unlock high performance for less than $250 - CNET
[03:02:32] <charon> i need one with an apu
[03:06:22] <Bytram> I'm sure there will be one along at some point
[03:08:24] <Bytram> didn't AMD pioneer having an APU in with the CPU?
[03:08:42] <charon> maybe
[03:09:27] <charon> i suppose there are some motherboards with a basic GPU
[03:10:17] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:10:50] <charon> my plan is to build my next PC with a GPU pass-through
[03:12:13] <Bytram> I don't understand what you mean by pass-thru?
[03:12:32] <Bytram> where is it coming from and passing through to?
[03:13:12] <charon> you have a basic GPU for linux, and a real video card that linux can't see but a windows VM can.
[03:13:37] <Bytram> oh! got it.
[03:13:50] <charon> so when you fire up the VM, it has control of the video card and it is like playing on bare metal
[03:13:58] <Bytram> so you can run games at near-native performance, right?
[03:14:02] <charon> yep
[03:14:05] <Bytram> ninja'd
[03:14:13] <Bytram> biab dishes
[03:16:11] * Bytram looks at the time
[03:16:23] * Bytram looks at the story queue and sees that it is in good shape
[03:16:28] * Bytram looks at his bed
[03:16:32] <charon> heh
[03:16:36] <Bytram> =)
[03:16:40] <Bytram> ~gnight charon
[03:16:41] * exec spontaneously duplicates a pitcher of splooge for charon
[03:16:45] <charon> ~gnight Bytram
[03:16:47] * exec seductively kipes a gift of the atheist's nightmare from Bytram
[03:17:01] <charon> i definitely lose
[03:17:02] <Bytram> yep, nightmare's you can keep 'em... thanks!
[03:17:16] <Bytram> 2nd try
[03:17:16] <Bytram> ~gnight charon
[03:17:18] * exec overratedly throws a pint of shit-on-a-stick at charon
[03:17:23] <charon> rofl
[03:17:26] <Bytram> urg.
[03:17:37] <charon> can it get worse?
[03:17:43] <Bytram> Sorry buddy! It wasn't supposed to do THAT!
[03:17:48] <Bytram> ~gnight charon
[03:17:49] * exec romantically liberates a wallet of shell scripts from charon
[03:17:59] <charon> ok, i'll take that
[03:18:03] <Bytram> 3rd time's the charm!
[03:18:05] <Bytram> =)
[03:18:11] <charon> sleep well
[03:18:14] <Bytram> sleep well my friend!
[03:18:47] <Bytram> if I count correctly, you'll soon be at 500 stories posted... wow! and thanks!!!!!!!!
[03:19:02] <charon> we'll have a party!
[03:19:03] <Bytram> afk... snoozing
[03:20:13] <Bytram> btw, if you can stay awake for another couple hours... there's a SpaceX launch scheuled for tonight!
[03:20:21] <Bytram> s/eu/edu/
[03:20:21] <sedctl> <Bytram> btw, if you can stay awake for another couple hours... there's a SpaceX launch scheduled for tonight!
[03:20:22] <exec> <Bytram> btw, if you can stay awake for another couple hours... there's a SpaceX launch scheduled for tonight!
[03:20:32] <Bytram> and now, this time for sure!
[06:12:17] <charon> spaceX launch successful
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[11:43:49] <takyon> http://www.cnn.com
[11:43:50] <exec> └─ 13Trump releases $1.1 trillion 'hard power budget' with cuts to State Dept, EPA - CNNPolitics.com
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[16:22:48] <Bytram> janrinok: !!
[16:27:59] <janrinok> Bytram, ! - Just had a telephone call from the doc, have to go afk for an hour or 2.... My logging on was bad timing.
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[16:29:06] <Bytram> janrinok_afk: hope the call was positive... I was about to sign off and run some errands when you popped in... guess I will do that now and try again later.
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[21:23:37] <mrpg> hi
[21:23:51] <Bytram> hi
[21:23:55] <Bytram> lo
[21:24:20] <Bytram> ;)
[21:40:08] <Bytram> http://journals.ametsoc.org
[21:40:10] <exec> └─ 13Thermal Equilibrium of the Atmosphere with a Given Distribution of Relative Humidity: Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences: Vol 24, No 3
[21:42:56] <mrpg> I concur.
[21:43:14] <mrpg> 42 submissions. whats going on. I'll begin with the ssd one.
[21:43:32] * Bytram is having the darndest time trying to get a URL to work as an href
[21:46:40] <mrpg> in what context. a href=
[21:46:44] <Bytram> yep
[21:46:57] <mrpg> where, html, python, irc?
[21:47:03] <Bytram> ignore this, just putting it here for possible later reference:
[21:47:04] <Bytram> http://journals.ametsoc.org
[21:47:09] <exec> └─ 13All: thermal equilibrium of the atmosphere with a given distribution of relative humidity : Search
[21:47:32] <mrpg> I can't ignore it, it affects my crops.
[21:47:44] <Bytram> user subbed a story... needed to use bitly so we could get it.
[21:47:45] <Bytram> http://bit.ly
[21:47:48] <exec> └─ 13Thermal Equilibrium of the Atmosphere with a Given Distribution of Relative Humidity: Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences: Vol 24, No 3
[21:48:21] <mrpg> hmmm ok
[21:48:27] <Bytram> when i follow where it leads to, every one of the links that I can find, when pasted into <a href="$link">link</a> does not work
[21:48:56] <Bytram> even though I can load each of those links in my browser. :/
[21:49:04] <Bytram> here are the three I have tried:
[21:49:10] <Bytram> http://journals.ametsoc.org(1967)024
[21:49:13] <exec> └─ 13Error
[21:49:18] <Bytram> http://dx.doi.org(1967)024
[21:49:19] <exec> └─ 13Error: DOI Not Found
[21:49:24] <Bytram> http://journals.ametsoc.org(1967)024
[21:49:26] <exec> └─ 13Error
[21:49:49] <Bytram> http://journals.ametsoc.org
[21:49:51] <exec> └─ 13Thermal Equilibrium of the Atmosphere with a Given Distribution of Relative Humidity: Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences: Vol 24, No 3
[21:50:26] <Bytram> converting %xx to ascii chars gives:
[21:50:27] <Bytram> http://journals.ametsoc.org(1967)024<0241:TEOTAW>2.0.CO;2
[21:50:29] <exec> └─ 13Thermal Equilibrium of the Atmosphere with a Given Distribution of Relative Humidity: Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences: Vol 24, No 3
[21:51:03] <Bytram> putting either of the last two into an href goes sideways
[21:51:49] <Bytram> ahhh, I bet it has to do with the "<" and ">" that are in the resultant url
[21:53:40] <mrpg> <a href="http://example.com">hi</a>
[21:54:19] <Bytram> okay, I just put this in an href tag:
[21:54:20] <Bytram> http://journals.ametsoc.org
[21:54:22] <exec> └─ 13Thermal Equilibrium of the Atmosphere with a Given Distribution of Relative Humidity: Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences: Vol 24, No 3
[21:54:31] <Bytram> then I hit preview,
[21:54:42] <Bytram> and it got changed to:
[21:54:42] <Bytram> http://journals.ametsoc.org(1967)024
[21:54:44] <exec> └─ 13Error
[21:55:03] <Bytram> it got truncated at the "less than" char
[21:55:32] <mrpg> that's it.
[21:57:13] <mrpg> rfc allows only ascii, html allows anything in an url.
[21:59:09] <Bytram> well "<" and ">" are ascii =)
[22:00:02] <Bytram> I tested our implementation of utf-8 and got to read all the RFCs wrt internationalized domain names along the way... not the lightest of reading
[22:00:37] <Bytram> I'm just going to call it out for what it is, and paste it into an <ecode>link</ecode> so folks can copy-n-paste if they prefer.
[22:01:44] <mrpg> good
[22:01:59] <Bytram> word to the wise...
[22:02:34] <Bytram> whenever doing something iffy in the story editor, is always a good idea to do: select all, copy, and THEN do preview
[22:03:11] <mrpg> rfc 1738 says only alphanumeric and a few special characters.
[22:06:04] <Bytram> yes, but even then, there is a workaround to use %xx to represent "weird" chars
[22:06:47] <Bytram> problem is that our site's code looks for "dangerous' constructs in urls, and seems to have gone overboard
[22:07:02] <Bytram> this URL should be just hunky dory:
[22:07:02] <Bytram> http://journals.ametsoc.org
[22:07:05] <exec> └─ 13Thermal Equilibrium of the Atmosphere with a Given Distribution of Relative Humidity: Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences: Vol 24, No 3
[22:07:25] <mrpg> yes, in hex, can you try the code point in decimal? it's 60
[22:07:49] <Bytram> sorry, you just lost me there.
[22:08:30] <mrpg> les than is 3C, that's hexadecimal. Try decimal. Must be %60
[22:09:10] <Bytram> oh, you mean replace "%3C" with "%60" ??
[22:09:16] <mrpg> yes.
[22:09:21] <mrpg> Fire in the hole!!!!!!
[22:09:43] <Bytram> ummm, the link works as is. =)
[22:09:54] <Bytram> I just clicked on it and it brought up the article just fine in my browser
[22:14:32] <Bytram> well, I took a stab at it... really needs to be seconded
[22:14:41] <Bytram> and... I just noticed the time and I need to get a move on here.
[22:14:50] <Bytram> so good to "see" you!
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[22:16:50] <mrpg> nice to see you too :)
[22:17:47] Bytram|fite is now known as Bytram
[22:50:07] <mrpg> I did seven stories! that's a lot! ok, that's what charon does in 6 minutes before breakfast, but still.
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