#editorial | Logs for 2017-02-23

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[00:00:30] <takyon> it's easy when you can just copy and paste it
[00:05:49] <takyon> ii subbed an article which could be merged with the other Ryzen article
[00:12:44] <charon_> takyon: why you laugh at me in the notes for the pharma hacker?
[00:20:42] <takyon> uhhh
[00:21:08] <takyon> the contents of the site are very basic
[00:21:21] <takyon> maybe even misleading
[00:24:35] <charon_> it was late, i certainly could have misread it.
[00:24:54] <takyon> you've got plans for one epinephrine injector
[00:25:05] <charon_> seemed like it was method for building your own drugs which may or may not be under patent
[00:25:10] <takyon> and then a grab bag zip that doesn't have much in it. described as an "alpha" release
[00:25:47] <takyon> I downloaded the latter .zip but it was hard to make sense of and not well organized
[00:26:39] <charon_> as a FNG, i'm not willing to make calls on questionable materials. it's not my sandbox to shit in, as it were
[00:27:13] <takyon> by all means skip it
[00:27:27] <takyon> it's not time sensitive
[00:46:38] <paulej72> my time is sensitive, I think i need some lotion
[00:56:12] <takyon> I'll provide you some oregano
[02:03:55] <Fnord666> howdy #editorial
[02:04:39] <charon_> hiyo Fnord666. i'm just leaving work, so i'll catch you in a while
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[02:05:39] <Fnord666> fine be that way
[02:06:29] <cmn32480> he is
[02:07:50] <Fnord666> lol
[02:07:56] <Fnord666> howdy cmn32480
[02:08:01] <cmn32480> ~gday Fnord666
[02:08:04] * exec spontaneously hallucinates a truecrypt volume of chromas scratching his glasscrack with Fnord666
[02:08:12] <cmn32480> hows things in your world?
[02:08:27] <Fnord666> fine up until chromas' glasscrack
[02:08:39] <Fnord666> going well. thank you. Yourself?
[02:09:09] <cmn32480> just had a custeorm tell me that all 177 printers we shipped to 5 facilities around the country all have the incorrect Default Gateway in them
[02:09:29] * Bytram hobbles in and plops himself in a comfy chair in the corner... then realizes he has not made dinner and hobbles back out for a moment
[02:09:46] <cmn32480> to which I replied, "here is the email you sent us that has that incorrect information in it"
[02:10:08] * cmn32480 steals bytrams chair and substitutes a TV tray
[02:10:33] * Fnord666 offers Bytram a questionable looking been bag chair
[02:10:35] <cmn32480> i.e. NOT MY FAULT
[02:10:44] <cmn32480> is that the one the dog sleeps on?
[02:10:52] <Fnord666> yeah, but you should have known what they meant. </sarcasm>
[02:11:11] <cmn32480> that the gateway ends in .1 and not .9? Oh yeah!
[02:11:48] <Fnord666> for a small consulting fee plus travel and expenses ...
[02:12:09] <Fnord666> oh I know.
[02:12:23] <cmn32480> $1200/day plus T&E
[02:12:31] <Fnord666> exactly
[02:12:39] <cmn32480> billed against their open PO
[02:12:45] <Fnord666> perfect
[02:12:58] <cmn32480> f**king rediculous
[02:13:21] <cmn32480> worst part is that I have to go to the office FIRST... all my PPE is there
[02:13:22] <Fnord666> you would think ... of never mind.
[02:13:29] <Fnord666> s/of/oh/
[02:13:29] <sedctl> <Fnord666> you would think ... oh never mind.
[02:13:31] <exec> <Fnord666> you would think ... oh never mind.
[02:14:18] <Fnord666> the good news is most printers are so wide open these days you could probably reset them from home.
[02:14:35] <cmn32480> yes... if they could talk to the network
[02:14:49] <Fnord666> good point
[02:15:10] <cmn32480> the word you are looking for is clusterpoopy
[02:15:12] <Fnord666> as long as you don't need a reply...
[02:15:26] <cmn32480> makes editing the web interface VERY difficult
[02:15:29] <Fnord666> SNAFU/FUBAR comes to mind
[02:15:54] <cmn32480> brb... wife wants ice cream from basement
[02:15:59] <Fnord666> k
[02:17:00] <takyon> burp
[02:17:06] <takyon> what's ice cream doing in the basement?
[02:17:25] <takyon> iScream in the basement
[02:17:52] <cmn32480> in the freezer
[02:19:24] <Fnord666> right next to the body.
[02:20:14] <cmn32480> yes
[02:20:52] <Fnord666> they do say to keep them as full as possible for maximum efficiency.
[02:22:01] <takyon> that is the most valid thing I've heard today
[02:22:12] <takyon> but wait, I read it
[02:22:14] <cmn32480> hookers take up a lot less space when you chop them up
[02:22:30] <takyon> that is the new most valid thing I've read today
[02:22:47] <Fnord666> takyon - must have been an interesting day
[02:22:58] <takyon> https://www.amazon.com
[02:23:38] <Fnord666> cmn32480 - basic space filling optimization problem, although the university frowns on using dead hookers and freezers as an example.
[02:23:55] <takyon> yeah but the living hookers just end up dying
[02:23:59] <Fnord666> or live ones and the freezer for that matter.
[02:24:09] <charon> i have returned, y'all can scatter like cockroaches now
[02:25:05] <Fnord666> too easy. not going to do it...
[02:25:27] * charon stomps on Fnord666
[02:25:56] <cmn32480> well... cockroach didn't last past the training and one or two articles on dev...
[02:26:02] <cmn32480> so he kinda did scatter
[02:26:28] <charon> we need to get snow back for this one bitcoin article
[02:26:36] <Fnord666> which one?
[02:26:56] <charon> https://soylentnews.org
[02:26:59] <exec> └─ 13Cryptocurrency will cripple today’s governments – and they won’t see it coming: SoylentNews Submission
[02:27:06] <Fnord666> the "cripple the economy" one?
[02:27:09] <charon> yah
[02:27:34] <Fnord666> it's mostly crap and wishful thinking
[02:27:40] <takyon> omfg it's the deal of the century! https://slickdeals.net
[02:28:12] <charon> hot topic here i come
[02:28:59] <takyon> I'm now scrolling through 41 pages of gift cards to find one... because I'm too lazy to think of actual items I want
[02:29:09] <takyon> but yeah I'm gonna save this goddamn $8
[02:29:10] <Fnord666> it's the main banner on amazon's site, but nice that it applies to gift cards.
[02:29:38] <charon> i could buy 2% of a new CPU with that
[02:30:44] <cmn32480> need $4 more stuff
[02:30:46] <takyon> Ryzen is about to pwn Intel
[02:32:00] <takyon> what's nice is that if I get say, a Kmart giftcard, I can combine it with whatever deals they run.
[02:32:09] <Fnord666> $50 gift card to White Castle?
[02:32:57] <takyon> maybe Lowe's
[02:35:11] <cmn32480> ONly applies to products sold by Amazon... WTF???
[02:35:51] <Fnord666> that's pretty try of all of amazon's promotions. Not applicable to third party shysters.
[02:36:02] <Fnord666> s/try/typical/
[02:36:02] <sedctl> <Fnord666> that's pretty typical of all of amazon's promotions. Not applicable to third party shysters.
[02:36:03] <cmn32480> boooo
[02:36:05] <exec> <Fnord666> that's pretty typical of all of amazon's promotions. Not applicable to third party shysters.
[02:36:13] <cmn32480> of the 4 items I need, only 1 is sold by amazon
[02:36:21] <charon> first person shysters only
[02:36:27] <Fnord666> exactly
[02:36:40] <Fnord666> cmn32480 - was amazon one of the alternate sellers?
[02:36:48] <cmn32480> checking on that now
[02:36:54] <takyon> getting a say, walmart gift card is better because you are saving 17% instantly, and then more if you combine it with the store's own deals
[02:37:04] <takyon> then getting actual amazon items with this
[02:37:10] <takyon> it's a double deal in that way
[02:37:17] <cmn32480> true
[02:37:17] <takyon> dat slickdeals life
[02:37:59] <Fnord666> wonder if it works on amazon gift cards?
[02:38:16] <cmn32480> nope
[02:38:21] <cmn32480> only 3rd party
[02:39:05] <charon> i'm going to get a supernatural pencil case, a stephen universe t-shirt, and a harley quinn wig! OMG, i will be the kewlest person in 7th grade!
[02:39:21] <takyon> this might help
[02:39:36] <Fnord666> so going to hot topic eh?
[02:39:40] <takyon> https://www.amazon.com
[02:39:42] <exec> └─ 13Robot Check
[02:40:04] <charon> and black fingernail polish
[02:40:04] <takyon> lol @ Airbnb
[02:40:27] <takyon> Airbnb gift cards. the best way to siphon money from the sharing economy
[02:41:40] <Fnord666> I did not know that existed. The descent into madness continues.
[02:43:14] <Bytram> https://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:43:17] <exec> └─ 13Firefox certificate cache leaks user information • The Register
[02:44:07] <takyon> Regal Entertainment might be a good option if you're into bringing family to a movie theater
[02:44:20] <charon> hey bytram, did you merge that sub you're in with the other Ryzen related sub?
[02:44:59] <takyon> that was a suggestion on my part. I felt like it would be a lot to have 2 Ryzen subs 10 days before launch
[02:52:17] <Fnord666> have to see what the Ryzen 3 retails at and how it compares.
[02:52:57] <charon> i am strongly considering buying one. was in the middle of planning a new PC anyway, might as well get best and brightest
[02:54:42] <takyon> 8 cores though
[02:54:46] <takyon> @fnord
[02:56:20] <Fnord666> yes?
[02:56:27] <Fnord666> how may I be of service
[02:56:43] <Fnord666> or what did I f up now?
[02:57:00] <takyon> it was just the cores comment
[02:57:05] <Fnord666> oh, ok
[02:57:13] <takyon> anyway looks like I'll settle on Lowe's unless I find something fantastic
[02:57:35] <Fnord666> you always need stuff for the house, right?
[02:57:37] <cmn32480> that's what I did
[02:58:12] <cmn32480> I'm done... looks like I have to go to NJ tomorrow to help these idiots who can't seem to get out of their own way.
[02:58:43] <takyon> plus Lowe's can't fatten you. maybe even the opposite if you use a shovel or something
[02:58:56] <charon> not home depot?
[02:59:17] <takyon> according to the slickdeals thread there is no home depot, walmart... etc.
[02:59:43] <takyon> I looked at safeway but they only have $100 or a digital version that gets bad reviews
[02:59:54] <Fnord666> apparently no home depot cards
[02:59:58] <cmn32480> ~gnight #editorial
[03:00:00] * exec prematurely generates a small script that substitutes a teaspoon of pyjama time for #editorial
[03:00:06] <Fnord666> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:00:07] <takyon> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:00:09] <charon> IOW: no vendors who have their own build up web presence
[03:00:10] * exec romantically internalizes a uharc archive of salmonella in cmn32480
[03:00:12] * exec figuratively rubs a socket of sorrow on cmn32480
[03:00:18] <charon> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:00:22] * exec unjustifiably ejaculates the last box of potato salad at cmn32480
[03:01:17] <Fnord666> not sure who won but cmn32480 definitely lost
[03:01:25] <charon> heh
[03:04:39] <Fnord666> charon - so what was the question/concern about the bitcoin story? anything in particular?
[03:05:24] <charon> not really. just that i don't want to publish it myself. looking to pass the buck really
[03:05:35] <Fnord666> ah ok.
[03:05:46] <charon> i phrased that poorly, but i think you take my meaning
[03:06:06] <Fnord666> I didn't think much of it either but it isn't the worst thing in the queue.
[03:06:26] <charon> heh, it's actually nearly the best thing in the queue at the moment
[03:06:44] <Fnord666> I had to lol at the complaints about the Jaffe Cake story.
[03:07:06] <charon> that got surprisingly many comments. you never can tell
[03:07:40] <takyon> I see you didn't go with a BSOD-related dept. on the HoloLens story charon. I commend you.
[03:08:24] <charon> thank you. it seemed like shooting a fish in a barrel, y'know
[03:08:56] <Fnord666> but the groans would have been audible
[03:09:31] <Fnord666> plenty of room in the comments for it, along with update failures, etc.
[03:10:55] <Fnord666> Plus virus jokes.
[03:11:10] <charon> the hololens demos i've seen are simultaneously pretty neat and strongly worrisome
[03:11:35] <Fnord666> worrisome in what way?
[03:12:19] <charon> a step up from the way people are already immersed in their tech at the expense of reality
[03:12:20] <takyon> I have never tried the technology but I want VR and AR to embrace extreme field of view. Google Glass was a mistake that caused people eye strain from having to look into the corner of their vision.
[03:13:04] <takyon> I think it was StarVR that essentially put two screens angled together to create a >120 degree FOV
[03:14:08] <Fnord666> I'm hoping for contact lens based display of AR. Not really looking for VR for day to day.
[03:14:08] <takyon> last time I checked, HoloLens FOV wasn't too much. although not as bad as Google Glass.
[03:17:18] <charon> i recall the VR rigs they had in the 90s. i used one in a mall once, and it was fairly lame. i assume 20 years later it's more convincing, but i think i can do without it
[03:18:05] <charon> also: https://www.youtube.com
[03:18:06] <takyon> Cardboard is a good way to get people on board without paying too much
[03:18:07] <exec> └─ 13HYPER-REALITY - YouTube
[03:18:15] <takyon> I would use Cardboard but I have no good phone
[03:18:16] <Fnord666> I'm of two minds about it.
[03:18:21] <charon> that video is fucking horrifying
[03:18:23] <Fnord666> VR I mean
[03:19:21] <Fnord666> It would be interesting for historical walkthroughs for places that can be virtually reconstructed.
[03:19:29] <charon> and yes, i know it's not hololens. it's an "artist's conception" of the future of VR
[03:20:08] <Fnord666> I already use visualization tools for working out changes to the house, furniture, etc. so VR would be the next step there as well.
[03:20:09] <takyon> more like AR from what I'm seeing
[03:20:18] <charon> yeah, i guess
[03:20:36] <takyon> AR and VR should ultimately be somewhat platform agnostic. and there's even the possibility of having both in one device...
[03:21:44] <Bytram> put them together! But, does VAR == AVR ??
[03:22:29] <Fnord666> that video is what I'm afraid AR would become
[03:22:54] <Fnord666> plus virtual graffiti
[03:23:08] <takyon> not to mention getting hacked
[03:23:12] <charon> yep
[03:23:15] <takyon> would you call that virtual eye-rape?
[03:23:33] <takyon> lol no achievement
[03:23:50] <Fnord666> and then there's the hacks.
[03:24:06] <Fnord666> as you mentioned
[03:24:26] <Fnord666> more concerning to me in VR when there's no outside frame of reference.
[03:25:00] <charon> in VR, there's the danger of tripping over the ottoman all the time
[03:25:00] <Fnord666> although blanking someone's AR display with white at a critical time would be evil as hell.
[03:25:13] <takyon> you could lay down with VR too
[03:25:24] <Fnord666> that assumes your VR incldues physical movement
[03:25:29] <Fnord666> includes
[03:25:47] <Bytram> it's hard to appreciate VR when you are dead.
[03:25:57] <Bytram> ;0
[03:25:59] <takyon> It looks like physical movement is a bitch in VR unless you get a $1k Omni treadmill or some BS. and then Oculus et al. are still tethered, which is gross
[03:26:15] <charon> hmm, that puts me in mind of motion sickness. if your vestibular system tells you you're lying down but the VR says you're standing up...
[03:26:39] <takyon> can't be any worse than being on the ISS
[03:26:43] <takyon> :)
[03:26:55] <Fnord666> I volunteer to test that theory.
[03:26:57] <charon> heh, where after 2-3 days, you're done puking
[03:27:25] <takyon> what if we got an astronaut to use VR on the ISS? Probably wreck their brains
[03:27:53] <Fnord666> The interesting question is why are we not affected by this during dreams?
[03:28:18] <takyon> whose dreams are that realistic
[03:28:41] <Bytram> because we not only dream we are seeing motion, we are also dreaming we are experiencing motion, too?
[03:28:47] <Fnord666> certainly you've had creams realistic enough to startle yourself awake from falling?
[03:28:55] <Bytram> !grab Fnord666
[03:28:56] <Bender> Added quote 58
[03:29:02] <Fnord666> damn
[03:29:07] <Bytram> lol
[03:29:33] <Bytram> is not really THAT bad, but the typo made me chuckle, even if it does not really jive with the rest of the statement
[03:29:49] <Fnord666> old man reflexes again
[03:30:16] * Bytram must admit he is in that demographic, too
[03:30:16] <takyon> it helps when you actually fall of the bed
[03:30:40] <Fnord666> I know there are some sort of cutouts that the body uses to sort of paralyze things during dreams
[03:30:46] <charon> haven't done that since i was a kid
[03:30:54] <Fnord666> fall out of bed?
[03:30:59] <charon> yea
[03:30:59] <Fnord666> or dream of falling?
[03:31:21] <charon> the dreams of falling are almost always just as i am falling asleep
[03:31:35] <charon> there's a technical name for them which i cannot recall
[03:32:22] <charon> hypnic jerk
[03:32:23] <Fnord666> So I can see that playing a part in a future version of VR
[03:32:28] <takyon> that VR cross in the short hahahahah
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[03:33:22] <charon> hiyo nick_
[03:33:23] <Fnord666> charon - isn't that the guy that hypnotizes people and makes them cluck like a chicken on stage.
[03:33:28] <Fnord666> charon - isn't that the guy that hypnotizes people and makes them cluck like a chicken on stage./
[03:33:31] <Fnord666> ?
[03:33:43] <Fnord666> howdy nick
[03:33:58] <Bytram> nick: greetings!
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[03:35:07] <Bytram> hate to greet and run, but I actually slept kinda poorly last night and am going to try to hit the sack early and maybe catch up a bit on my sleep
[03:35:24] <charon> don't dream of falling
[03:35:40] <charon> ~gnight Bytram
[03:35:43] * exec abnormally deallocates a caravan of futility from Bytram
[03:35:44] * Bytram bemusedly watches nick/n1 undergo a transformation, much like Clark Kent in a phone booth
[03:35:50] <Bytram> ~gnight charon
[03:35:52] * exec insatiably snatches a bathtub of buggery from charon
[03:36:01] <Bytram> ~gnight Fnord666
[03:36:01] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:36:02] <Bytram> ~gnight n1
[03:36:05] * exec fanatically cracks open a tube of brussels sprouts for Fnord666
[03:36:10] <charon> like clark kent changing into jimmy olsen?
[03:36:14] <n1> take care Bytram
[03:36:17] * n1 hat tip
[03:36:32] <Bytram> charon: chuckle!
[03:36:41] <Fnord666> ~gnight Bytram
[03:36:42] * exec prematurely slides a fat16 volume of feministing droppings to Bytram
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[03:37:19] * Bytram is too tired to figure out if he won or lost :/
[03:37:30] <Bytram> I know...
[03:37:39] <charon> fnord wins because he got delicious brussel sprouts
[03:37:45] <Bytram> (just pretend!)
[03:37:46] <Bytram> I won.
[03:37:48] <Bytram> =)
[03:38:02] <Fnord666> You won Bytram! Congrats! Get some sleep!
[03:38:18] <Bytram> You guys are GREAT!
[03:39:07] <Fnord666> Good night Bytram. Hopefully you'll get some good rest.
[03:39:26] <Bytram> seriously, I really appreciate the depth of humor I find here. There's nothing even close in my day-to-day activities! It takes real brilliance to create some of the bon mots I see regularly posted here.
[03:39:58] * Bytram is not certain how to spell "bon mot" and just pretended as if he knew.
[03:41:29] <charon> you got it right, actually
[03:41:37] <Bytram> https://en.wiktionary.org
[03:41:39] <charon> prolly pronounced it wrong thout
[03:41:39] <exec> └─ 13bon mot - Wiktionary
[03:41:46] <Bytram> Aapparently so!
[03:41:50] <Bytram> lol
[03:41:52] <Bytram> Apparently so!
[03:41:57] <Bytram> !woop
[03:41:57] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[03:42:04] <Fnord666> I know I pronounced it incorrectly for you in my head.
[03:42:08] <charon> lol
[03:42:20] <Bytram> boon moot?
[03:42:25] <Bytram> ;)
[03:42:29] <Bytram> ciao for now!
[03:42:33] <charon> cheers
[03:42:43] <Fnord666> arrivaderle
[03:59:36] <Fnord666> I think I'm going to call it a night as well. Good night all.
[04:06:25] <charon> ~gnight Fnord666
[04:06:27] * exec ironically crossbreeds a tower of ellipses with Fnord666
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[14:16:30] <Bytram> charon++ Phenomenal dept line for TRAPPIST=1 story
[14:16:30] <Bender> karma - charon: 19
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[23:39:12] <takyon> originalowner has a msg for cmn32480: https://soylentnews.org
[23:39:14] <exec> └─ 13Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions: SoylentNews Submission
[23:41:17] <takyon> posted the story
[23:41:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's about time someone got butthurt at an editor enough to become a regular troll of them.
[23:42:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was beginning to think we were going too easy on the submitters
[23:43:04] <takyon> I'll be back later
[23:43:09] * TheMightyBuzzard waves
[23:43:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> remind me to ask ya about your booze