#editorial | Logs for 2017-02-02

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[02:22:37] <cmn32480> charon - I added the block quote to the fermi story you posted.
[02:35:44] <cmn32480> charon - I took care of the latest gewg_ story adn edited it. seems he still hasn't learned to spell Windows... or his spell checker is borked and corrects it to Windoze...
[02:44:06] <Fnord666> @cmn32480 the submit resumes because their unemployment requires them to apply for jobs. Doesn't say they have to ge them
[02:44:49] <Fnord666> s/the/they/
[02:44:49] <sedctl> <Fnord666> @cmn32480 they submit resumes because their unemployment requires them to apply for jobs. Doesn't say they have to ge them
[02:44:51] <exec> <Fnord666> @cmn32480 they submit resumes because their unemployment requires them to apply for jobs. Doesn't say they have to ge them
[02:45:14] <cmn32480> Fnord666 - good point
[02:45:34] <Fnord666> So how is ya today?
[02:46:18] <Fnord666> gewg is OO, correct?
[02:46:38] <cmn32480> correct
[02:48:12] <charon> what? i swear i did the blockquote
[02:48:24] <Fnord666> For a minute I thought someone might have run his trump military operation
[02:48:52] <cmn32480> oh hell no
[02:48:55] <cmn32480> that shoudl go straight to the bin
[02:49:04] <charon> agreed
[02:49:19] <Fnord666> thirded
[02:49:26] <charon> also, hi gentlemen. how are you?
[02:49:33] <Fnord666> howdy charon
[02:49:36] <cmn32480> sleepy
[02:49:39] <cmn32480> how is you?
[02:50:12] <charon> fine. just got home from work and thinking about tinkering with my Rpi some more
[02:50:28] * cmn32480 passes the soldering iron and emotion chips
[02:50:44] <charon> i would fuck it all up if i tried to solder
[02:51:04] <Fnord666> nah, it's easy
[02:51:27] <Fnord666> adafruit has several good tutorials, as does make magazine's site.
[02:52:07] <charon> since i'm just using it for emulators, i don't have any need to hack the hardware
[02:52:14] <Fnord666> but you really shouldn't need a lot of soldering with the RPi
[02:52:22] <Fnord666> unless you're building add-on circuits.
[02:52:35] <cmn32480> just don't use a tip designed for copper roofing panels and you will be fine
[02:52:36] <charon> i know the basics of soldering, but i do it so infrequently, that i leave giant blobs
[02:53:14] <Fnord666> or one designed for 0402 smd parts (think .5mm pencil size tip)
[02:53:37] <charon> see, you've already confused my pretty little head
[02:54:06] <Fnord666> a basic weller 25W soldering pencil with LEAD solder. Lead free solder is environmentally friendly and a PITA.
[02:54:59] <cmn32480> can you still get lead solder?
[02:55:00] <charon> dude, i just want to paint on the flux and use tungsten core rosinless solder for food safe applications
[02:55:10] <Fnord666> cmn32480 - watched a guy try to solder telephone with with a soldering gun you could use for stained glass windows.
[02:55:22] <Fnord666> cmn32480 yep
[02:55:27] <cmn32480> <facepalm>
[02:55:28] * charon is making it up
[02:55:47] <Fnord666> telephone wire
[02:56:19] * cmn32480 pats himself on the back for posting 6 stories today... and one was gewg_'s so that counts like 6 extra
[02:56:39] <Fnord666> https://www.amazon.com
[02:56:41] <charon> i authorize a 10% bonus
[02:57:00] <Fnord666> seconded.
[02:58:15] <charon> hey cmn32480, how did the database crap work out?
[02:58:35] <cmn32480> from my perspective - flawlessly
[02:58:51] <cmn32480> what the order entry people are doing to it now? NFI
[02:59:44] <cmn32480> but my part is done.
[03:00:03] <charon> if it doesn't explode on your watch, that's all that counts
[03:00:17] <cmn32480> pretty much
[03:00:36] * cmn32480 considers an 8 hour trip to New ZZZZZ-land
[03:01:05] <cmn32480> I'm sorry to cut out early fellas...
[03:01:10] <cmn32480> my ass is draggin'
[03:01:15] <cmn32480> ~gngiht Fnord666
[03:01:20] <cmn32480> ~gnight Fnord666
[03:01:22] * exec romantically allocates a maildir of black holes for Fnord666
[03:01:25] <cmn32480> ~gnight charon
[03:01:26] <Fnord666> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:01:26] * exec carefully stuffs a broken promise of com objects into charon
[03:01:27] <charon> no worries, you pounded out a few stories
[03:01:28] * exec sardonically embiggens a buzzfeed listicle of Microsoft Works with cmn32480
[03:01:35] <charon> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:01:38] * exec implicitly terrorizes an assload of capsaicin with cmn32480
[03:01:42] <cmn32480> for the dfirst time in a week....
[03:01:55] <charon> did i say that? i didn't say that
[03:01:55] <Fnord666> charon - ouch!
[03:01:57] <cmn32480> ah well
[03:02:17] <cmn32480> it was the unsaid "you lazy fucker" part that hurts
[03:02:21] <charon> lol
[03:02:36] <charon> i totally did not say that
[03:02:41] <charon> right fnord?
[03:02:44] <cmn32480> implication was enough
[03:03:23] <cmn32480> but I understand
[03:03:27] <Fnord666> What? I didn't hear anything, implied or otherwise.
[03:03:42] <cmn32480> lol
[03:03:47] <charon> after your two years of hard labor, you're allowed slack time
[03:04:00] <cmn32480> it is likely in my own head, mostly
[03:04:43] <Fnord666> The voices in your head are pretty snippy today.
[03:04:50] <Fnord666> I hate when that happens.
[03:04:53] <cmn32480> been beating on me all day
[03:05:15] <cmn32480> anyway
[03:05:17] <Fnord666> You know what Freud would say, right?
[03:05:20] <cmn32480> you guys have a good night
[03:05:23] <charon> Fnord666: first the voices in his head, then paranoia. maybe we need to do something about him
[03:05:32] <charon> cheers cmn, take care
[03:05:41] <cmn32480> Freud would tell me to go fuck my mother and get it over with
[03:06:19] * cmn32480 runs away screaming at the thought
[03:06:22] <Fnord666> Nah, he'd say "let me out of this damn pine box!" good night cmn32480.
[03:06:27] <charon> heheh
[03:06:30] <cmn32480> lol
[03:06:47] <Fnord666> enjoy some extra zzz;s
[03:08:13] <Fnord666> Damnit Bytram's beating up on me again
[03:08:54] <charon> and he's not even in this channel to gloat about it
[03:10:09] <Fnord666> Apparently you were next.
[03:10:26] <Fnord666> He's here now. It's like saying Beetlejuice....
[03:10:56] <Bytram> ~blame
[03:10:57] * exec points at Bytram
[03:11:21] * Bytram just got home from a long day at work
[03:11:35] <Fnord666> Welcome home
[03:11:35] <charon> and your first step is to clobber us, i see
[03:11:49] * Bytram glances at the story queue and notes it looks to be in good shape
[03:11:59] <Fnord666> noob bashing again I see
[03:12:11] <charon> we FNGs have to stick together
[03:12:28] <Fnord666> cmn even posted a gewg story.
[03:12:49] <Bytram> well, it was not my intention, but when I fired up hexchat and saw in the #fite channel that htings had been restored, I figured I should make best use of it
[03:13:07] <Bytram> cmn32480++ going above and beyond
[03:13:07] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 84
[03:15:13] <Fnord666> But we have pretty much agreed to bin the Trump's first military covert operation story
[03:15:46] <Fnord666> https://soylentnews.org
[03:15:48] <exec> └─ 13Trump's First Military Raid Massacred Civilians, Including an 8-Year-Old US Citizen: SoylentNews Submission
[03:16:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> who's the hmfic in here these days?
[03:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> jan?
[03:17:14] <Bytram> ~define hmfic
[03:17:15] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03hmfic: Head Motha Fucka In Charge. The boss; someone not to be reckoned with. Used to denote, usually in jest, that a person is in charge of a situation.
[03:17:19] <Bytram> LOL
[03:17:24] <Bytram> yeah, he's the one
[03:17:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> good, i gots ta talk him into a politics nexus so we can let folks filter that shit.
[03:18:58] <charon> i thought he was on board. isn't it a coding issue?
[03:19:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, take like 5s to do
[03:19:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> after the site update
[03:21:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, so, UC Berkeley protesters done tore down police barricades, lit shat on fire, and shot fireworks at cops just to keep one guy from speaking
[03:23:30] <charon> sounds like berkeley
[03:23:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> champions of liberty, them
[03:24:43] <Bytram> this is strange... I'm getting timeouts trying to reach Ars Technica, using both http and https, e.g.: https://arstechnica.com
[03:24:54] <Bytram> The connection has timed out
[03:24:54] <Bytram> The server at arstechnica.com is taking too long to respond.
[03:25:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, their shat is broke
[03:25:43] <Bytram> hmmm, even ping is coming up nada -- 100% packet loss
[03:25:55] <Fnord666> iz broke
[03:26:21] <Bytram> it theyz broke, maybe they should hold a fundraiser or somethin?
[03:26:57] <Fnord666> MAybe Jimmy Wales can give them some pointers.
[03:27:07] <charon> plot twist: their servers are on the UC Berkeley campus
[03:27:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'd be funny being as they're firmly in the SJW camp
[03:28:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why i dropped their feed from my list n didn't know till Bytram found out.
[04:19:09] <Bytram> 2nded all the stories I could. --bytram
[04:19:26] <Bytram> ~gnight #editorial
[04:19:27] * exec seductively cracks open a buttload of hip hop for #editorial
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[08:18:03] -!- mode/#editorial [+v janrinok] by Hephaestus
[08:18:13] <janrinok> hi-ho!
[08:19:33] <Fnord666> Howdy janrinok! Good morning.
[08:20:16] <janrinok> Fnord666, noticed that you were posting too. Good morning to you
[08:20:43] <Fnord666> I may have napped a bit too much after work yesterday.
[08:21:10] <janrinok> lol - unpossible!
[08:21:26] <janrinok> too much napping is a contradiction
[08:21:27] <Fnord666> I'll be paying for it later.
[08:21:33] <janrinok> yup
[08:22:02] <Fnord666> quick question on the australian govt story
[08:22:12] <janrinok> its 09:21 here - not a bad time for me to do something useful
[08:22:14] <janrinok> go ahead
[08:22:33] <Fnord666> did you leave the dept line in the story for a reason?
[08:22:43] <Fnord666> or should I delete it
[08:22:54] <janrinok> mistake
[08:22:59] <janrinok> pse delete it
[08:23:12] <Fnord666> will do. Go with your dept line then?
[08:23:27] <janrinok> if you are happy with it - I perfer it over the suggested one
[08:23:32] <janrinok> prefer*
[08:23:54] <Fnord666> works for me
[08:24:01] <Fnord666> So how are you doing today?
[08:24:36] <janrinok> not bad - had a very busy and tiring day yesterday, but have a bit of a quieter day planned for today
[08:25:43] <Fnord666> Hopefully it will stay that way.
[08:26:08] <janrinok> hopefully, but it rarely does ... How about with you?
[08:26:52] <janrinok> I'm not touching ANY of the politics story in the queue
[08:27:12] <Fnord666> Should be a decent day. Starting research on a new project so that's always interesting. NEver know what is going to come up.
[08:27:27] <janrinok> so an exciting new beginning?
[08:27:41] <Fnord666> Something like that.
[08:27:47] <Fnord666> We'll see anyway.
[08:28:27] <Fnord666> You ok with takyon's little reference to EF in the Boston Dynamics story?
[08:28:48] <Fnord666> I wasn't sure if that was something better suited to the comments or not.
[08:29:04] <janrinok> yep, it is not quoted as part of the story and there may well be a hint of truth behind it. EF does get involved in similar things
[08:29:34] <Fnord666> Ok. Just wanted to be clear.
[08:30:22] <Fnord666> There's definitely a line to be had there and this one seemed safe, but I wasn't sure if we stripped any references out of the post itself.
[08:30:35] <Fnord666> as a general rule.
[08:31:35] <Fnord666> And I agree re the political stories.
[08:31:39] <janrinok> as long as it is not in the blockquote, and it is intended as a prompt for comments or a light-hearted quip then I feel it is appropriate.
[08:32:31] <Fnord666> butthurt just submitted another story with something new to merge with the Australia story.
[08:32:33] <janrinok> it's a matter of balance - if it goes too far and is actually using the story to mock an individual then I would remove it, in this instance I cannot see any harm
[08:33:14] <janrinok> this is the 3rd or 4th time that he has done this - I wish he would get his subs sorted out before he submits them
[08:33:21] <Fnord666> So basic decency and common sense. Got it.
[08:34:07] <Fnord666> I've noticed that about his subs
[08:34:10] <janrinok> I don't think butthurt's addition makes a significant difference - it is 66% other coverage.
[08:34:53] <Fnord666> right. mostly a salad bar of other outlets covering the same story.
[08:36:13] <janrinok> I've transferred one link and comment but the rest I will ignore
[08:36:53] <Fnord666> The US links (WaPo, Bloom) do seem to paint an interesting slant from the American POV
[08:37:46] <janrinok> well feel free to add them if you think it improves the sub
[08:38:36] <Fnord666> I don't think they actually will.
[08:39:37] <Fnord666> Enough anti-Trump spin in them that I think they will actually detract from the actual point.
[08:39:57] <Fnord666> ok, one too many actuallys
[08:40:45] <Fnord666> I'm going to catch a couple of hours sleep before work.
[08:41:10] <Fnord666> Have a quiet day, give our best to S and I'll talk to you later.
[09:00:43] <janrinok> sry - had to play at nurse. Have a good sleep and enjoy your day!
[12:36:08] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[12:36:09] * exec proverbially fires a staff of prizes, prizes, pr'zises! at janrinok
[12:36:24] <cmn32480> yer on IRC early
[12:38:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:38:38] * exec sneakily hucks a set of gil at cmn32480
[12:39:16] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:39:17] * exec single-candidly pisses a byte of estrogen on TheMightyBuzzard
[12:39:26] * TheMightyBuzzard is poisoned
[12:40:01] * cmn32480 suggest he visit UC Berkley adn fit right in
[12:41:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that's the smell of their own farts what they're on not estrogen
[12:41:15] <cmn32480> lol
[12:41:17] <cmn32480> yeah
[12:41:22] <cmn32480> I can't understand that one
[12:43:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> you knew i'd have to sub it when they light shat on fire, assault attendees, shoot fireworks at cops, and swarm into the event itself
[13:00:56] <cmn32480> oh we figured...
[13:01:08] * cmn32480 looks under the table for the politics nexus
[13:01:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> soon i hope
[13:02:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> if janrinok says we want one, ima have paulej72 add one during the upgrade
[13:17:52] <cmn32480> please
[13:21:33] <cmn32480> ooooo the Good Fairy smiled on Fnord666
[13:51:16] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480
[13:51:17] * exec disturbingly cyberbullies a 55 gallon drum of confusement at cmn32480
[13:56:36] <janrinok> POLITICAL NEXUS - some initial thoughts
[13:57:21] <janrinok> All stories regardless of nexus appear on the same front page, so the only benefit that I am expecting is giving the user the ability to filter out such stories if he/she desires
[13:58:30] <janrinok> we will still have to limit the number of pol stories that we publish in order not to swamp the front page, and they must be spaced in time so that we don't have huge gaps in the front page for those that do filter them out
[13:59:36] <janrinok> I suggest a limit of no more than 2 pol stories / day, based on 70% tech related and 30% other - which includes politics
[14:00:48] <Bytram> janrinok: agreed, and would like to remind that there are political stories besides just the popular US target!
[14:01:02] <janrinok> If we don't manage this properly we run the risk of driving away those who enjoy the site for what it was originally set up as, and turning it into a political forum which may well attract new members from certain sections of society that we would rather not have.
[14:02:00] <janrinok> we do NOT want to encourage the submission of more pol stories - we get more than enough as it is (imho)
[14:02:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, we can set politics nexus to not display on the main page as the default if you like.
[14:02:55] <Bytram> janrinok: indeed -- I've seen a huge inflow of 'new posters' on Ars Technica that have *dramatically* changed the tenor and tone of the comment section
[14:02:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> in fact i think we should
[14:03:06] <janrinok> I would prefer to actively discourage the current trend of a submission every time Trump says something, does something, or goes for a crap.
[14:04:15] <Bytram> so, how will people (1) existing nicks (2) new users and (3) ACs know that the political nexus is there and what it is called?
[14:04:23] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, I like that idea but I'm not sure that it is my place to make that decision. The view of the majority of staff or even just key players would be good enough I imagine
[14:05:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, as hmfic editor it's on you unless NCommander or Deucalion want to chime in.
[14:05:27] <Bytram> janrinok++ agreed -- don't need no more subs on politics than what we've already got, and I second your vierw to distance ourselves from being a what did HE do, and lets comment on it; definitely DO NOT WANT that.
[14:05:27] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 46
[14:05:32] <janrinok> we will have to announce the new nexus, but the reason for these thoughts is so that we can explain its purpose and usage and present a common view if anyone asks what it is all about
[14:06:30] <Bytram> looking ahead to possible reactions and having substance to one's reasoning on why we acted/chose as we did... brilliant!
[14:06:45] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, in that case default to filter selected on - i.e. no political stories shown unless the user changes the setting
[14:07:29] * TheMightyBuzzard tips hat
[14:07:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> yassuh, boss
[14:07:45] <janrinok> we still only have the same number of editors so I don't want any significant increase in editorial effort being required to maintain it
[14:08:17] <cmn32480> my thoughts - have the nexus. have it NOT auto display to the main page, unless there is a good reason. the H1B stories as an example, in which case, it gets put in multiple nexuses
[14:08:35] <Bytram> Q: by default, do ACs see politics nexus or not, and if an AC wants to see it, how can they do so, so do we make it a requirement that, in order to read/post in the politics nexus, they must do so with a nick? (I think ACs are an important part of the site and should not be stifled unless there is a VERY good reason)
[14:08:38] <janrinok> cmn32480, yep that seems about right#
[14:08:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> just me thinking here, if the political story has a significant tech angle it should prolly go to the main page and go under the appropriate category.
[14:09:14] <cmn32480> you cna lay stuff in multiple places... main page and a nexus
[14:09:19] <Bytram> nod nod -- where's the focus? tech 9with politics) or politics (with tech) ??
[14:09:26] <Bytram> s/9/(/
[14:09:26] <sedctl> <Bytram> nod nod -- where's the focus? tech (with politics) or politics (with tech) ??
[14:09:28] <exec> <Bytram> nod nod -- where's the focus? tech (with politics) or politics (with tech) ??
[14:09:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, we can set ACs to see it by default. or not.
[14:09:40] <Bytram> noice!
[14:09:52] <janrinok> if we can fit a story reasonably under a different topic then we should do so, but we should explain that the thread should not be treated as a political free-for-all
[14:09:56] <cmn32480> I woudl think not
[14:10:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a per-user setting. ac is just another user as far as teh code is concerned.
[14:10:13] <cmn32480> there is a link on the left hand side of the apge to the nexus listing.. if they wanna see it, they can easily get to it
[14:10:22] <Bytram> yuppers
[14:10:22] <Bytram> break time; back in about an hour or so.
[14:10:34] <janrinok> cul8r Bytram
[14:10:49] * TheMightyBuzzard goes back to hunting down a bug
[14:11:04] * cmn32480 passes a fly swatter
[14:11:16] * janrinok hope he catches it - they can make nasty bites while you sleep
[14:11:44] * cmn32480 gets the willies
[14:13:01] * janrinok has had his since he was born - perhaps this is another same language problem :o
[14:18:17] <janrinok> time for tea
[14:18:27] <cmn32480> #smake SQLServer
[14:18:27] * MrPlow smakes SQLServer upside the head with a 400TB/s DDoS
[14:25:19] <cmn32480> fuck... not I gotta write SQL to update the data for the tax codes....
[14:25:24] <cmn32480> #smake cmn32480
[14:25:24] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480 upside the head with a nanoaggression
[14:26:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> hur hur hur
[14:26:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> all i gotta do is figure out why this bloody thing ain't doing its job.
[14:27:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, that could be why
[14:27:52] <janrinok> tell me more, tell me more!
[14:28:08] * janrinok with acknowledgement to Grease
[14:28:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> like does he have a car?
[14:30:06] <Bytram> janrinok: pondering a bit more on the new nexus rollout... I am thinking it would be good to have a story that explains the rationale for its creation, its intended use (as outlined/discussed above), motivations, and all that, and then put it to the *community* for feedback.
[14:31:46] <janrinok> I agree with most of that, except the community feedback. It has all the makings of a long-winded shouting match with accusations of trying to stifle discussion on Trump or actively supporting him. I'm feeling a bit nervous in that regard
[14:32:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok++
[14:32:10] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 47
[14:32:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> troof.
[14:32:52] <cmn32480> my fear is that it will quickly dwarf the technical/scientific portion of the site
[14:32:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept the "or" part. we'd get both.
[14:33:18] <janrinok> I feel confident that I can sell it as being a way for those who want to discuss pure politics to be able to do so, while allowing those who like the site as it is to continue with the minimum of disruption
[14:33:56] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, I suppose that is actually what I meant
[14:34:05] <janrinok> cmn32480, agreed
[14:35:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was nick's objection as well if we made the nexus
[14:35:06] <janrinok> if we open it to the community for discussion it actually looks as though we are encouraging political discussion whereas I am trying to keep it hidden for those who'd prefer not to go down that rout
[14:35:12] <janrinok> route*
[14:37:58] <janrinok> however, the first stage is to gather _our_ views, then decide how best we would like to use it, document it in the wiki and then release it to the world
[14:38:33] <janrinok> I recall the discussion with nick, he made some good points
[14:38:52] <cmn32480> he usually does.
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[14:41:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> prollem is we're already seeing too much politics and we need a way to reign it in without appearing like authoritarian dicks.
[14:42:00] <janrinok> 'zactly
[14:42:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> so the worry that we'll see too much of nicks is basically a null op
[14:42:41] <cmn32480> moveing them off the main page to a nexus seems like a nice way to do that
[14:43:01] <janrinok> it's the only way that I can see at the moment
[14:43:09] <cmn32480> gives people the opportunity to play in that topic if they want, or ignore it if they don't
[14:43:34] <cmn32480> and there is nothign taht says it has to be populated as frequently as the main page.
[14:43:56] <cmn32480> it can go a day or two or three with nothing
[14:44:05] <cmn32480> however unlikely that is...
[14:44:11] <janrinok> well, there is a lot to say that it musn't. Doing so would greatly increase our workload for one
[14:44:44] <cmn32480> janrinok: s/our/charon and Fnord666's/
[14:44:44] <sedctl> <cmn32480> <janrinok> well, there is a lot to say that it musn't. Doing so would greatly increase charon and Fnord666's workload for one
[14:44:45] <exec> <cmn32480> <janrinok> well, there is a lot to say that it musn't. Doing so would greatly increase charon and Fnord666's workload for one
[14:44:49] <janrinok> I suggest we treat the pure politics stories as we do now, the only difference is that user's have a method of ignoring them
[14:44:59] <janrinok> lol
[14:45:15] * cmn32480 is a complete slacker now
[14:45:53] <janrinok> we both are. But we have been burning the candle at both ends - along with a few others - until very recently
[14:46:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> slackers. real men just hit the whole bloody candle with a flamethrower.
[14:47:40] <Bytram> "Don't tell me that I am burning the candle at both ends -- tell me where I can find more wax!"
[14:47:56] * cmn32480 suggest the puddles under mine and janrinok's candles
[14:48:03] <janrinok> with our current editing figures per day, we should be having 3 or 4 non-tech related stories, which includes reviews, random, and politics etc
[14:48:22] <cmn32480> are those action figures?
[14:48:39] <janrinok> what, us, action figures? stopping taking the piss
[14:49:10] <cmn32480> that'd be the worst selling action figure set EVER
[14:49:28] <cmn32480> except gewg... he'd buy a shitload of them jsut to blow us up with fireworks
[14:49:59] <janrinok> by the way, I have queued a story for tomorrow regarding the Dutch video - if you haven't watched it I would recommend it. I laughed. I suspect a few Trumpets won't
[14:51:09] <janrinok> OO's left wing bias is getting ever more pronounced nowadays - not that I criticise his political views, but he doesn't stand a chance of winning his argument if he starts from his current position
[14:52:04] <Bytram> agrred. if your argument has merit, let it stand on its own and dispense with the hyperbole and theatrics (bold / italis / etc)
[14:52:04] <Bytram> *agreed
[14:52:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, he should start from reverse cowgirl
[14:52:26] <janrinok> lol
[14:52:38] <Bytram> lrigwoc?
[14:52:39] <cmn32480> I think he quite possibly does
[14:52:56] <cmn32480> bytram types like me... apparently it is catching
[14:53:29] <Bytram> reverse cowgirl ... reverse(cowgirl) == lrigwoc
[14:53:33] <janrinok> ɔoʍƃᴉɹl
[14:53:46] <Bytram> janrinok++ too shay!
[14:53:46] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 48
[14:54:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> tooshy?
[14:55:14] <janrinok> touché
[14:55:44] <Bytram> two she?
[14:55:45] <cmn32480> I prefer TMB's thinking on the subject
[14:55:50] * janrinok thinks TheMightyBuzzard must be very tired
[14:56:07] * cmn32480 can't keep 1 she happy... I don't need a second
[14:56:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, late getting my meds. they're just now kicking in good.
[14:56:21] <janrinok> what. more coffee!
[14:57:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, do you want me to vibrate so fast i can walk through solid matter like the flash?
[14:57:42] <cmn32480> YES! and I want vidya or id didn't happen
[14:59:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, got it partially working. now i gotta get the post form bit working.
[15:01:25] * cmn32480 tests his simple SQL query
[15:01:32] <cmn32480> Works...
[15:01:37] * cmn32480 prays...
[15:01:42] <cmn32480> and applies to production
[15:01:47] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: FYI, looking at story: https://dev.soylentnews.org the links to load a single comment, e.g. #30894 lack the actual cid in the link
[15:01:50] <exec> └─ 13Dev.SN Comments | PLEASE! Read updates in story and check on channel #qa on IRC before making any changes
[15:02:02] <Bytram> instead, I see this link there: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[15:02:04] <exec> └─ 13Dev.SN Comments | PLEASE! Read updates in story and check on channel #qa on IRC before making any changes
[15:02:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i'm in the middle of breaking stuff right now on dev. patience.
[15:02:38] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:02:57] * janrinok thought TMB was always in the middle of breaking stuff - it what he does...
[15:03:12] * Bytram wanders over to grab a cup of coffee, finds a comfy chair, and sits back for a bit.
[15:03:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta make the bugs or Bytram don't have anything to do
[15:03:25] <Bytram> darn tootin'!
[15:03:32] * janrinok thought Bytram finds what to break next, and TMB goes ahead an implements it
[15:03:49] <Bytram> !grab janrinok
[15:03:49] <Bender> Added quote 55
[15:03:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> sometimes but i like to surprise him too.
[15:03:55] <Bytram> !quote 55
[15:03:55] <Bender> Quote 55 - <janrinok> what. more coffee!
[15:03:59] <Bytram> darn!
[15:04:09] <janrinok> bugger - as they say
[15:04:14] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:04:50] <janrinok> would you like me to type it out again so you can capture it?
[15:05:00] <Bytram> please?
[15:05:09] <janrinok> I thought Bytram finds what to break next, and TMB goes ahead an implements it
[15:05:20] <Bytram> !grab janrinok
[15:05:20] <Bender> Added quote 56
[15:05:26] <Bytram> !quote 56
[15:05:26] <Bender> Quote 56 - <janrinok> I thought Bytram finds what to break next, and TMB goes ahead an implements it
[15:05:30] * Bytram smiles
[15:05:36] <janrinok> the things I do to keep my friends happy
[15:05:57] * TheMightyBuzzard glares at the source
[15:06:19] <Bytram> actually, my experience has been that TMB decides what to break, implements it, and tries to hide it in such a way that nobody else but bytram can find it
[15:06:21] * janrinok goes back to tinkering with pyQt5
[15:06:29] * Bytram takes a break
[15:06:35] <Bytram> afk biab
[15:07:10] * cmn32480 is plesantly surprised that he did not completly screw up the accounting DB
[15:07:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, s'true. i can't even find it again sometimes.
[15:07:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, that's what db dumps are for
[15:07:59] <cmn32480> it was only 1 table... with a measly 358 records.
[15:08:05] <cmn32480> I COULD have done the edit by hand
[15:08:18] <cmn32480> I tested it on the test system first!
[15:08:49] <cmn32480> DB dump of our system takes about 15 min for a SQL backup, about 2 hours for a DB Dump from the accounting software
[15:16:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hur hur hur
[15:16:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mock you with my monkey pants
[15:17:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i need a smoke. back when chemically restored.
[15:21:37] <cmn32480> so it sounds like the consensus is to create the nexus, turn it off by default, and let people turn it of if they want to?
[15:22:54] <janrinok> yup, sounds about right
[15:23:10] <janrinok> except they turn it ON if the want to
[15:23:25] <janrinok> they*
[15:24:41] <cmn32480> yeah.. taht's what I meant tot type.. but my figners disagreed with ym brain (again)
[15:24:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> typos are infectious
[15:25:22] <cmn32480> like a good fungus?
[15:27:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> jockitch++
[15:27:32] <Bender> karma - jockitch: 1
[15:28:43] <cmn32480> usually taht gets a --
[15:39:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, bug's fixed on dev
[15:40:14] <Bytram> yowza! on my way...
[15:41:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> hang tight. one minor bug
[15:41:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> cosmetic but it annoys me
[15:41:23] <Bytram> k
[15:42:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, break it
[15:44:27] <Bytram> done
[15:44:31] <Bytram> loaded: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[15:44:33] <exec> └─ 13PLEASE! Read updates in story and check on channel #qa on IRC before making any changes - Dev.SN
[15:44:37] <Bytram> scvrolled down to first comment
[15:44:53] <Bytram> #30894 points to: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[15:44:56] <exec> └─ 13Dev.SN Comments | PLEASE! Read updates in story and check on channel #qa on IRC before making any changes
[15:45:15] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ^^ (and, yes, I cleared cache, and did a hard load beforehand: Ctrl+F5)
[15:46:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrmf
[15:46:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay
[15:46:23] <Bytram> can you reproduce?
[15:46:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess i should fix that. yes
[15:46:30] <Bytram> the bug, that is. ;)
[15:48:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> will fix it while you break other stuff
[15:48:44] <Bytram> k
[15:52:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... thas odd
[15:53:32] <Bytram> also, still seeing extra choices in the sort drop down s/b just oldest first and newest first, right?
[15:54:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't gotten rid of them yet
[15:54:48] <Bytram> another one: using: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[15:54:50] <exec> └─ 13PLEASE! Read updates in story and check on channel #qa on IRC before making any changes - Dev.SN
[15:55:17] <Bytram> the *only* indentation I am seeing is your two comments: #30906 and #30907
[15:55:29] <Bytram> all others are displayed w/o the parent button
[15:55:36] <Bytram> and, w/o indentation
[15:58:08] <Bytram> just realized was prolly in the wrong channel for this discussion -- meet ya in #qa
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[18:19:16] <janrinok> mrpg, good evening to you
[18:19:38] <cmn32480> ~gday mrpg
[18:19:39] * exec theoretically queefs a toilet bowl of Grape Nuts at mrpg
[18:20:24] <janrinok> he's joined silently
[18:20:41] <cmn32480> better then the rest of us who joined noisily
[18:20:49] <mrpg> hello, I was reading the story about the millions of email at nhs :)
[18:20:50] <cmn32480> hows things on your end?
[18:21:16] <janrinok> good story - typical cock-up
[18:22:03] <mrpg> ~gday cmn32480
[18:22:05] * exec buttmagically coalesces a raid 2 volume of dianetics with cmn32480
[19:14:51] <mrpg> hm, interesting, why bender posted the same story twice in #soylent? just for the corrected typo?
[19:15:39] <mrpg> bender is mexican.
[19:15:48] <cmn32480> yes
[19:15:56] <cmn32480> anytime the story gets edited, Bender reposts
[19:16:10] <mrpg> ok
[19:20:53] <mrpg> sayonara minna san bye
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[19:21:03] <cmn32480> hasta la vista
[19:21:06] <cmn32480> baby
[19:21:19] <janrinok> mrpg bye
[19:21:24] <cmn32480> too late
[19:21:31] <janrinok> as usual
[19:21:46] <cmn32480> me too
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[19:41:49] <janrinok> hi nick
[19:42:02] <nick> hey janrinok
[19:42:03] <nick> how goes
[19:42:35] <janrinok> not bad - I was just about to leave for the evening. You travelling again?
[19:42:44] <cmn32480> ~gday nick
[19:42:46] * exec clumsily refactors a raid 0 volume of bass hole for nick
[19:43:52] <nick> in a few days, i've been sick with the flu, been trying to get through it so i don't end up travelling while suffering
[19:44:18] * cmn32480 diinfects his monitor just in case it is transmittable that way
[19:44:24] <janrinok> sorry to hear that - getting better I hope
[19:45:06] <nick> oh yeah, a lot better.. just a bit congested now, rather than the fever, joint aches and exhaustion
[19:47:00] <nick> been many years since i've had anything that kicked my ass quite so much
[19:47:07] <cmn32480> g;ad you are feeling better
[19:47:20] <cmn32480> that kind of sick jsut SUCKS
[19:47:24] <janrinok> you're getting older you know ...
[19:47:51] <nick> janrinok, creepy... i actually came down with it on my birthday...
[19:48:06] <janrinok> well, there you go then.
[19:48:18] <nick> a sign of things to come
[19:48:23] <cmn32480> happy birthday!
[19:48:23] <nick> it's downhill from here i guess
[19:48:26] <cmn32480> (late)
[19:48:32] <janrinok> don't tell me!
[19:48:49] <nick> thanks :)
[19:50:08] <janrinok> well, I hope you continue to improve, but I've got to go unfortunately. Perhaps catch up with you over the weekend?
[19:50:17] <nick> sure thing
[19:50:19] <cmn32480> ~gnight janrinok
[19:50:20] * exec explicitly twerks the last box of loose change for janrinok
[19:50:21] <nick> take care janrinok
[19:50:24] <cmn32480> give S my best
[19:50:25] <nick> my regards to S
[19:50:31] <janrinok> ~gnight cmn32480
[19:50:32] * exec hurriedly crams a basket of diabetes into cmn32480
[19:50:41] <janrinok> thanks to you both for the best wishes to S
[19:50:49] <janrinok> ~gnight nick
[19:50:50] * exec figuratively farts an animated gif of Kenny's chocolate milk mix at nick
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[19:51:47] <nick> think you lost there, cmn32480
[19:52:05] <cmn32480> most definetly
[19:54:24] <cmn32480> Is it wrong that I enjoy throwing facts at people and watching them try to squirm?
[19:59:42] <nick> facts or alternative-facts?
[19:59:44] * nick cough
[19:59:53] <cmn32480> actual facts
[20:01:17] <cmn32480> guy that I've known for years posts something on Facebook about how since the guy who shot up the mosque in Canada is Christian we shoudl ban all Christians now.. hwo does that turning of the tables feel.
[20:01:47] <cmn32480> I replied :
[20:01:53] <cmn32480> "In the context of Trump's Executive order, it would be a temporary ban on Canadiens, not Christians. As the ban is for a particular subset of 7 countries, NOT a religion. Immigration policies for the other 43 Muslim majority countries in the world (www.wikipedia.com/muslim_world) have not changed. And while we are on the topic, where was all this outrage when Obama stopped the acceptance permanently for Cuban refugees on January 12?"
[20:02:36] <cmn32480> I don't believe in alternative facts.
[20:02:40] <cmn32480> give me cold hard numbers
[20:03:25] <nick> can
[20:03:27] <nick> can
[20:03:31] <nick> fucking keyboard
[20:04:32] <nick> can't disagree with your comment, but as i'm sure you can guess i'd have a slightly different take on it. your comment is probably the most rational on the topic that i've seen really.
[20:05:23] <nick> question though, is it now impossible for a cuban to become a refugee, rather than just the exceptional standard set for cubans has now been brought in-line with other refugees
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[20:08:39] <cmn32480> I will have to research what would make a Cuban a refuggee anymore... I'm not sure with the question of "normalization" of relations.
[20:08:51] <nick> a wider question is... the policy although not explicitly seems to be heading towards 0 refugees allowed. since you can't be a refugee from a country torn by war, because you could be one of the fighters from it... but to be a refugee you need to be from a country suffering from extreme political/social/violent turmoil
[20:09:58] <nick> that's how i see this situation going essentially... you can be a refugee if you're from somewhere, that by itself would preclude you from being a refugee due to the stability of the country and compliance of the government in regard to international relations
[20:10:30] <cmn32480> that seems to be how it is going
[20:11:46] <nick> i assume the travel ban was done as carelessly as it was to actually give ammunition to allow it doubling down like how i see it happening above
[20:11:58] <cmn32480> the whole pause on issueing visas to 7 countries and the outrage over it is rediculous
[20:12:01] <nick> as myself and others have noted, some notable exceptions from the list
[20:12:18] <cmn32480> oh yes...
[20:12:44] <nick> if it was a halt in new visas, that could have been much better presented
[20:12:58] <cmn32480> but these are the relatively politically easy countries to do this to
[20:13:06] <cmn32480> agreed
[20:13:11] <nick> but as it was taken, it at least initially just stopped people travelling
[20:13:26] <cmn32480> I think that if the visa was already issued, there shoudl have been not pulling it back
[20:13:36] <nick> as i mentioned in here, a UK MP, in the conservative party no less, went to get clarification and told he couldn't travel to the US now
[20:13:40] <nick> because he was born in Iraq
[20:13:56] <nick> even though he's not a dual-national and has been in the UK for 40 years, MP for HM Gov etc
[20:14:38] <nick> family fled saddam i the 70's but on your passport, it has where you're born... so you're 'from' there
[20:15:17] <nick> as i understand some of that has now been clarified, but it shouldn't have needed to be.
[20:15:48] <cmn32480> the order was rushed into practice and was NOT clearly explained before implementation.
[20:16:11] <cmn32480> certainly poor execution played a significant part in this
[20:17:38] <nick> not something i enjoy thinking about, but so far the precedents that are being set are far from constructive from where i'm sitting
[20:17:53] <cmn32480> I woudl agree with that
[20:18:12] <nick> and watching the local news, just how factually wrong some of the 'analysis and commentary' is that they're airing.
[20:18:47] <cmn32480> by just how factually wrong... you mean the media might be skewing the story??? how dare yoU!
[20:19:34] <nick> an example i'll use is someone saying about universities should have their funding taken away because they're refusing to comply with the executive order and that's treason.
[20:20:02] <nick> last time i checked, universities were not DHS in control of immigration and giving out visas
[20:20:06] <cmn32480> treason doesn't mean what they think it means
[20:20:28] <nick> the story was about local universities supporting their students who are unsure what the future holds for them
[20:20:36] <nick> foreign students obviously
[20:21:06] <cmn32480> however, I do agree that the sanctuary cities ought to have their funding stripped for not cooperating with federal immigration authorities for people who have been legally arrested
[20:21:23] <nick> the way the comment went on it, it would seem like the EO demanded all people from those countries be expelled and the universities were preventing deportation.
[20:22:02] <cmn32480> the EO has nothign to do with deportation as far as I understand ti
[20:22:05] <nick> yeah, that's a different situation which, personally, i don't really know shit about.
[20:22:50] <nick> it doesn't... but that was what 'some people are saying' and it was the side used to illustrate support for the EO among the local population
[20:23:24] <cmn32480> short version on the sanctuary city thing is that certain cities and jurisdictions have decided that even if they arrest someone, they will not request proof of citizenship and will not turn the names over to DHS for deportation if they are illegal becasue it might break up the family which is likely here illegally
[20:23:35] <nick> maybe not coincidence it was on the local Fox News affiliate
[20:23:41] <cmn32480> lol
[20:23:50] <cmn32480> yeah... that might be an easy connection
[20:25:46] <nick> that kind of makes sense... and i'd say it's not local law enforcements job to do that anyway, but if they are actively refusing to co-operate with immigration agents when conducting investigations, then there's an issue
[20:26:38] <nick> it somewhat touches on a discussion we had here before... i don't know about the US, this is from a UK perspective... the grandparents don't want unentitled people using the health service
[20:26:45] <nick> so fine... prove you're entitled to it
[20:26:58] <nick> 'but we've been registered with our doctor for 50 years!'
[20:27:07] <nick> 'so you've been hiding from immigration services for 50 years?
[20:27:12] <cmn32480> exactly
[20:27:58] <nick> the US may have much simpler methods to prove someones citizenship/immigration status... but in the UK it's really not that simple
[20:28:30] <cmn32480> passport or SSN
[20:28:54] <nick> passport is fine, but as i understand not many 'mericans have them
[20:29:06] <nick> and like in my example above, my grandparents certainly don't
[20:29:09] <cmn32480> I don't knwo what the percentage is
[20:29:14] <cmn32480> everybody has a SSN
[20:29:24] <nick> and isn't there an issue with SSN's being issued to so many people, some of whom are not legal residents
[20:29:50] <cmn32480> AFAIK, you are not supposed to get an SSN unless you are a citizen
[20:29:56] <cmn32480> drivers license is a different story
[20:30:15] <nick> that might be the story i'm recalling
[20:31:08] <cmn32480> https://www.ssa.gov
[20:31:16] <nick> i just found a forbes article
[20:31:35] <nick> 'What we learned is that … the IRS continues to process tax returns with false W-2 information and issue refunds as if they were routine tax returns, and say that’s not really our job. We also learned the IRS ignores notifications from the Social Security Administration that a name does not match a Social Security number, and you use your own system to determine whether a number is valid.”'
[20:32:19] <cmn32480> you can get one as a non-citizen, but you ahve to be legal
[20:33:29] <nick> 'The IRS has discovered more than 1 million Americans whose Social Security numbers were stolen by illegal immigrants, but officials never bothered to tell the taxpayers themselves, the agency’s inspector general said in a withering new report released Tuesday.
[20:33:47] <cmn32480> brb - have to do somethign for my actual day job
[20:37:56] <nick> if it's in the law already that local PD takes SSN from suspects and puts it into the database to check ID... then the sanctuary cities are rightfully in trouble
[20:38:36] <nick> but personally i'm not really up for every police officer also being an immigration officer/enforcer, especially when it can only be a 'guilty until proven innocent' situation
[20:51:39] <cmn32480> prove who you are.
[20:51:42] <cmn32480> by fingerprints,
[20:51:45] <cmn32480> SSN
[20:51:50] <cmn32480> Drivers license
[20:51:52] <cmn32480> etc.
[20:52:04] <cmn32480> you can pull their criuminal record wiht any of that information
[20:52:21] <cmn32480> and it SHOULD tell you if they are here legally or not
[20:52:50] <cmn32480> if not, you shoudl be informing ICE and turning them over. get them the heck yout of your jail
[20:54:31] <nick> they should, but a lot of things 'should' happen
[20:54:38] <cmn32480> tooshy
[20:57:24] <nick> i would expect as part of the booking process it would check with some database about a persons status, but by the existence of sanctuary cities, it apparently isn't always the case
[20:58:00] <cmn32480> correct
[20:58:17] <nick> i would assume it would be a bigger issue if the PD's are putting names into their computers, big red flashing thing comes up saying 'immigration status invalid' or something and then just going 'eh, oh well, $200 DWI'
[20:58:42] <cmn32480> ^^^^ This IS what happens
[20:59:09] <cmn32480> at least as far as I understand it
[20:59:14] <nick> then i would wonder how the computer systems accept the inputs/closing of a file beyond that
[20:59:44] <nick> with a massive red flag that would then, i assume automatically notify the relevant dept. of the situation to be clarified/resolved
[21:00:24] <cmn32480> nope
[21:00:31] <cmn32480> or at least, obviously not
[21:01:04] <nick> how can they even book them in or out when the information required is incomplete, that would surely put the whole conviction and system in a question/risk of abuse regardless of the persons status
[21:01:45] <nick> it's just opening more cans of worms, although perhaps more convenient holes to allow people who are 'connected' in various ways to avoid being officially put through the system when detained
[21:01:53] <cmn32480> my guess is that most of those systems have pulled out that particular check from their system
[21:03:30] <nick> now it just seems like a much bigger situation than certain places ignoring people's immigration status
[21:04:04] <cmn32480> it is a surprising number of cities and counties...
[21:04:14] <nick> it seems more like the most used/effective police forces in the world, who manage to arrest and convict so many people... is also a huge sieve and it should be like 5x higher or something.
[21:04:14] <cmn32480> I'm waiting for the entire state of California to pass that law
[21:05:15] <nick> now it brings me back to thinking about the wall... not about keeping them out, about keeping you in.... maybe that's the plan, put the whole population in prison until they can prove they're innocent
[21:06:54] <nick> going to take a shower quickly and ponder this some more... also rather hungry so my brain is going all over the place
[21:30:51] <cmn32480> hungry is good after being sick
[21:30:56] <cmn32480> means you are feeling better
[21:36:07] <nick> oh i know i'm feeling better, when i woke up yesterday and didn't have a painful coughing fit and blocked throat and nose, i knew i was over the worst
[21:40:06] <takyon> do we need to run this: https://soylentnews.org
[21:40:08] <exec> └─ 13Error
[21:41:01] <cmn32480> jr posted it, so I'd say so
[21:41:55] <nick> it's making me chuckle
[21:42:13] <cmn32480> i found it funny
[21:42:16] <nick> unlike the SNL trump sketches i saw that made me want to throw a brick at the TV
[21:43:28] <cmn32480> SNL in general makes me want to do that...
[21:43:45] <cmn32480> I pretty well avoid it anymore. I jsut don't find it funny like it used to be
[21:43:54] <nick> i hadn't seen much of it before, but it had pissed me off then too
[21:44:02] * Bytram never really found SNL to be funny
[21:44:36] <nick> that sub isn't in our normal ballpark, but i quite enjoyed it.
[21:44:51] <takyon> as long as you're willing to defend it
[21:45:01] <Bytram> had classmates who loved it, but the few times I watched it... seemed terribly juvenile... maybe I was in the wrong demographic?
[21:45:19] <nick> 'needs more cowbell' is the only 'good' SNL thing ive seen
[21:45:20] * Bytram much preferred johnny carson
[21:47:26] <cmn32480> I called it.. gewg_ bitchin' about the dept line!
[21:49:05] <nick> what story
[21:49:12] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[21:49:14] <exec> └─ 13LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - SoylentNews
[21:50:47] <takyon> If I said what I think about dept line bitching it would be too rude
[21:51:14] <cmn32480> I'm tempted to report every change I made to that article
[21:55:02] <nick> i can't seem to find gewg_'s comment
[21:55:25] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[21:55:27] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI
[21:55:37] <cmn32480> sorry... Original Owner_
[21:55:48] <cmn32480> he changed his non-registered name
[21:56:50] <nick> yeah i know, i was just skimming down and expected it to be more obvious
[21:58:14] <nick> he needs to pick his battles
[21:58:45] <cmn32480> he aint' winnign this one
[21:59:18] <Bytram> looks like someone has already called him out on his complaining about the dept line
[22:01:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should change my sig to "Original Owner--"
[22:05:12] <cmn32480> or gewg_
[22:11:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> either way. i haven't messed with him in a while
[22:12:31] <nick> has he ever explained the whole 'do not want account but always sign my posts and subs'
[22:22:41] <takyon> gewg has also come out and I believe lied saying that if you impersonate him you'll get disciplined somehow
[22:22:57] <takyon> not sure if that refers to subs or comments
[22:25:25] <nick> lol wtf
[22:27:12] <takyon> I don't have a source ready but I could do a search for it
[22:35:12] <takyon> look at how bad our search is: https://soylentnews.org
[22:35:14] <exec> └─ 13Search 'originalowner_'
[22:37:56] <takyon> libreoffice story has 53 comments!
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[23:14:07] <nick> http://www.investors.com
[23:14:09] <exec> └─ 13Apple Plans $10 Billion Bond Sale To Boost U.S. Cash Pile | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD
[23:18:53] <cmn32480> I'm out
[23:18:56] <cmn32480> tome to go home
[23:19:01] <cmn32480> ~gnight #editorial
[23:19:02] * exec provocatively slides a drawing of murcan freedum! to #editorial
[23:19:54] <exec> added to beverages
[23:59:04] <chromas> I saw that
[23:59:13] <chromas> Somebody has ~dest-override set