#editorial | Logs for 2017-01-04

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[00:01:54] <charon_> ~arthur e5e151
[00:01:56] <exec> 516 stories loaded
[00:01:56] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Probing ways to turn cement's weakness to strength"
[00:02:27] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[00:02:32] <exec> 515 stories loaded
[00:09:29] <charon_> ~arthur 7e91b5
[00:09:31] <exec> 515 stories loaded
[00:09:31] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Microsoft’s browsers may have hit rock bottom"
[00:10:02] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[00:10:08] <exec> 514 stories loaded
[00:23:44] <charon_> ~arthur 5c599c
[00:23:46] <exec> 515 stories loaded
[00:23:46] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Gemcoin, cryptocurrency that never existed, was a scam all along"
[00:24:17] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[00:24:22] <exec> 515 stories loaded
[00:27:22] <charon_> ~arthur 841635
[00:27:24] <exec> 526 stories loaded
[00:27:24] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Facebook censors nude Neptune statue, writer says"
[00:27:55] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[00:28:01] <exec> 525 stories loaded
[00:36:35] <charon_> wow, mikeeUSA just doesn't quit
[01:06:16] <Fnord666> Howdy charon_
[01:06:27] <charon_> heyo Fnord666
[01:06:51] <Fnord666> What's shaking?
[01:07:35] <charon_> not much. i am currently at 11 consecutive stories and counting
[01:07:42] <charon_> how's by you?
[01:08:32] <Fnord666> Good. First day back at work but it's a new year so...
[01:10:18] <charon_> so nothing to do yet?
[01:10:57] <charon_> already did the smart tv story
[01:11:05] <Fnord666> No already a rush project that must be done in the next two weeks, but it's only three weeks of work so...
[01:11:34] <charon_> hah. crunch time already
[01:11:48] <Fnord666> I was looking at the smart TV story because I saw an article that went into depth on the "fix" so I wanted to see which article the story was using.
[01:12:05] <charon_> oh, i see. feel free then to add to it
[01:12:23] <Fnord666> Funny thing with all those submissions is that you messed up the gap between the oldest and second oldest by an hour.
[01:12:26] <charon_> the article i had doesn't explicitly say what the fix is
[01:13:22] <Fnord666> or maybe it was the second and third.
[01:14:06] <Fnord666> jk. It's fine.
[01:14:15] <charon_> bastard
[01:14:24] <charon_> i kept looking and looking
[01:14:26] <Fnord666> mwahahahaha
[01:15:09] <Fnord666> Heres the ransomware fix
[01:15:11] <Fnord666> 1. Enter recovery mode
[01:15:11] <Fnord666> 2. Reset TV
[01:15:18] <Fnord666> 3. ???
[01:15:21] <Fnord666> 4. Profit
[01:15:37] <Fnord666> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:15:38] <charon_> can i skip right to step 4?
[01:15:39] <exec> └─ 13Programmer finds way to liberate ransomware'd Google Smart TVs • The Register
[01:15:46] <Fnord666> yes you may.
[01:16:24] <charon_> man, the real editors are MIA today. when i dropped in, we were down to the last story
[01:16:47] <Fnord666> Wow.
[01:17:06] <charon_> well, second last maybe, there was one that had not been 2nd'd yet
[01:17:07] <Fnord666> Although at this point you qualify as a real editor dude.
[01:17:21] <charon_> as do you. you hit 100 also, right?
[01:18:15] <Fnord666> yup. Even got a note from janrinok and everything.
[01:18:35] <charon_> that and a buck will get you a cup of coffee
[01:19:20] <Fnord666> At the gas station...
[01:19:58] <Fnord666> on the SpaceX article did you ever track down where takyon got the second paragraph?
[01:21:17] <charon_> it's linked. bloomberg
[01:21:57] <charon_> oh wait, the 2nd graph is not. good catch
[01:22:19] <Fnord666> Yup but I can't find anything that says the FAA is giving them the go ahead.
[01:22:50] <Fnord666> “The FAA has not yet issued a license to SpaceX for a launch in January,” the agency said by e-mail Tuesday.
[01:24:10] <charon_> i am going to bet that that line was changed in the bloomberg article update
[01:24:33] <charon_> at the byline is says "Updated on: January 3, 2017, 12:54 PM EST"
[01:24:39] <Fnord666> The bloomberg article has been updated since takyon submitted it.
[01:24:51] <Fnord666> Accepted submission by takyon at 2017-01-03 07:25:21 73178
[01:25:03] <chromas> http://www.newsdiffs.org
[01:25:05] <exec> └─ 13NewsDiffs | Tracking Online News Articles Over Time
[01:25:07] <Fnord666> so I bet you're right.
[01:25:09] <charon_> google cached version has that line
[01:25:25] <Fnord666> That's a cool link.
[01:26:04] <Fnord666> although they don't have anything for this story.
[01:26:41] <charon_> Alas! We don't seem to know anything about this article. Sorry! :(
[01:26:43] <charon_> chromas++
[01:26:43] <Bender> karma - chromas: 10
[01:26:54] * chromas retracts link; backs out of channel
[01:27:15] <Fnord666> thanks chromas
[01:27:43] <Fnord666> still another resource we can possibly use.
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[01:28:50] <Fnord666> The wayback machine also has a snapshot before the edit
[01:28:53] <Fnord666> https://web.archive.org
[01:28:55] <charon__> .kill charon_
[01:28:56] <exec> └─ 13Internet Archive Wayback Machine
[01:29:03] <charon__> .kick charon_
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[01:29:25] <charon__> stupid timeout
[01:29:38] <charon__> imagine we should change the quote though
[01:29:49] <Fnord666> yup
[01:30:09] <Fnord666> I'll get it
[01:30:59] <Fnord666> Mind if I update the headline to "Possibly"
[01:32:06] <charon__> heh, go ahead
[01:32:26] <charon__> you butchered my story!
[01:32:34] charon__ is now known as charon_
[01:33:05] <Fnord666> which one?
[01:33:12] <Fnord666> I haven't touched anything yet.
[01:35:22] <charon_> joking.
[01:35:40] <Fnord666> Now I have. Please take a look and tweak as desired.
[01:35:48] <charon_> so far, if someone changes something in a story, i haven't felt offended
[01:36:49] <Fnord666> Just offering the option.
[01:38:14] <charon_> sheer butchery from a 3rd rate hack! i don't have to take this. do you know who i am?
[01:38:45] <Fnord666> For the Princess Leia story I would have gone with a dept of the-CGI-strikes-back
[01:39:06] <charon_> that's not bad. change that if you like
[01:40:41] <Fnord666> if you don't mind...
[01:40:51] <charon_> time to get ready to close the shop. afk for a few mins
[01:40:55] <charon_> seriously, no i don't mind
[01:41:09] <Fnord666> k
[01:56:43] <charon_> there's a lot of stuff in the sub queue that should be rejected
[01:57:03] <charon_> but i don't think i want to take responsibility for doing it
[01:57:27] <charon_> like this one, for example: https://soylentnews.org
[01:57:28] <exec> └─ 13Speech codes more important than contribution on opensource.: SoylentNews Submission
[02:02:29] <Fnord666> agreed.
[02:03:27] <Fnord666> I tweaked the link in the MAtrix End to End Encryption story to point directly to that specific blog post.
[02:04:24] <Fnord666> On the should algorithms be regulated story, do you think we should add a little blurb from the "No" side of the article?
[02:08:36] <charon_> i considered that, which is why i added the last line about there being two viewpoints reflected in the article
[02:08:51] <Fnord666> I did see that.
[02:08:52] <charon_> up to you if you want to do it.
[02:09:51] <charon_> time to leave work. i'll be back in while
[02:09:59] <Fnord666> And I'm not sure whether posting the opposite side will draw more or less interest than leaving it unspoken
[02:10:04] <Fnord666> k. ttyl.
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[02:35:05] <charon> i have returned
[02:54:07] <Fnord666> charon - hey
[02:54:35] <Fnord666> I've seconded all of your stories. We should be good for now.
[02:54:42] <charon> thank you
[02:55:06] <Fnord666> #fite charon
[02:55:06] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[02:55:14] <MrPlow> #fite Fnord666 falls broken at charon's feet.
[02:55:19] <charon> muahahahah
[02:55:22] <Fnord666> lol
[02:55:37] <Fnord666> damn. defeated by girlie slaps
[02:55:54] <charon> damnit, TMB must have changed my weapon and armor
[02:56:04] <Fnord666> apparently
[02:56:19] <Fnord666> unless annoying whining was your idea?
[02:56:40] <charon> it used to be a <marquee> tag so it showed up on the scoreboard
[02:57:13] <Fnord666> I saw some htmlish stuff happening in #test I think.
[02:57:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya. such is the downside of people annoying me by breaking the scoreboard.
[02:57:23] <Fnord666> might as well use the blink tag
[02:57:25] <charon> bytram started it
[02:57:34] <charon> i tried blink but it didn't work
[02:57:53] <charon> trust me, blink was my first choice
[02:58:09] <Fnord666> It was deprecated well, let's say a long time ago.
[02:58:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> browsers intentionally don't support it no more.
[02:58:23] * Bytram might or might not be able to confirm charon's statement
[02:58:26] <Fnord666> He's like beetlejuice. You say his name and he appears.
[02:58:36] Bytram is now known as Beetlejuice
[02:58:50] * Beetlejuice waves Hi! to Fnord666
[02:59:15] <charon> but but... how do i get rid of him?
[02:59:34] <Fnord666> Don't give him an Oscar.
[02:59:41] <charon> oooh, cold
[03:00:05] <Fnord666> TBF it wasn't that kind of movie.
[03:00:18] Beetlejuice is now known as Bytram
[03:00:26] <charon> hiyo Bytram
[03:00:27] Bytram is now known as Bytram|fite
[03:00:50] <Bytram|fite> #fite exec
[03:00:50] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:00:59] <MrPlow> #fite exec falls broken at Bytram|fite's feet.
[03:01:10] Bytram|fite is now known as Bytram
[03:01:13] <Bytram> charon: hiya!
[03:01:26] <Fnord666> Let's see google translate handle that one!
[03:01:28] <Bytram> had a long day and just got 'bout an hour ago and starting to unwind
[03:01:40] <Bytram> and... just realized I should make some dinner
[03:01:47] <charon> overrated
[03:01:54] <Bytram> Fnord666: =) Lorem Ipsum
[03:02:16] <Bytram> charon: overrated by whom? /me likes it when he is not hungry!
[03:02:18] <Bytram> afk biab
[03:04:12] <Fnord666> Gotta run. Time to watch "The Secret Life of Pets" with the family.
[03:04:15] <Fnord666> ttyl
[03:04:31] <Bytram> btw, when quoting an article at sciencedaily, almost always there is a link at the bottom for the "Story Source:" along the lines of "*Materials* provided by FooBarBuzz System" the "Materials" link takes one to the original article
[03:05:02] <Bytram> whenever I see an SD link, I make it a point to quote the original source as SD often drops links in its quoting
[03:05:10] <Fnord666> I saw your edits on my submissions from there. Many thanks.
[03:05:26] <charon> cheers Fnord666
[03:05:28] <Fnord666> They were much improved.
[03:05:43] <Bytram> am doing the same right now on the child sleeping story
[03:06:19] <Bytram> hoped you would appreciate the edits -- didn't mean to step on any toes
[03:06:37] <Bytram> done with sleeping story
[03:06:42] <Fnord666> I did not mind a bit.
[03:06:52] <charon> i think we're all grown ups here
[03:07:18] <Bytram> yes, but I have found that manners go a long way to keeping lines of communication open
[03:07:29] <charon> i, for one, would never accuse you of being jealous of my popularity and trying to bring me down with petty corrections
[03:07:31] <Fnord666> Very true.
[03:07:43] <Bytram> I can't begin to hold a candle to JR, who sets a most marvelous example
[03:07:57] <Bytram> ok, this time for real -- afk dinner prep
[03:08:04] <Fnord666> enjoy
[03:08:11] <Fnord666> make something delicious
[03:08:26] <Fnord666> same for me. Good night all.
[03:08:33] * charon offers to wash the dishes
[03:08:40] <charon> ~gnight Fnord666
[03:08:41] * exec insensitively formulates an .msi package of pencil shavings for Fnord666
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[12:48:13] <cmn32480> charon - good save last night.
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[16:19:00] -!- mode/#editorial [+v mrpg] by Hephaestus
[16:19:10] <mrpg> Hello, happy new year, reporting for duty.
[16:20:09] <mrpg> My chosen pokemon is "bad habits waistline" etc.
[16:25:17] <mrpg> question: my xubuntu wants to reboot to update, is that systemd's fault?
[16:26:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> if either systemd or the kernel got updated you'll need to reboot.
[16:27:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, possibly
[16:35:30] <mrpg> yes, there is linux-firmware in the apt history.
[16:41:37] <mrpg> I didn't see it, I didn't update via cli but with the popup thingy.
[16:42:25] <cmn32480> my thingy occassionally pops up too
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[18:50:32] <chromas> !grab cmn32480
[18:50:32] <Bender> Added quote 48
[18:51:11] <chromas> You've been waiting to talk all this time just so I could grab you?
[19:05:28] <cmn32480> tease.. I dind't even feel the reacharound.
[19:05:31] <cmn32480> nopgrab
[19:13:21] <janrinok> !grab cmn32480
[19:13:21] <Bender> Added quote 49
[19:13:29] <janrinok> nopgrab is not nograb
[19:13:44] <cmn32480> !quote 49
[19:13:44] <Bender> Quote 49 - <cmn32480> nopgrab
[19:13:53] <janrinok> ... although I suspect I grabbed the wrong comment
[19:13:56] <cmn32480> I see...
[19:14:15] <cmn32480> bender only grabs the last thign said by a person
[19:14:21] <cmn32480> !grab janrinok
[19:14:21] <Bender> Added quote 50
[19:14:31] <cmn32480> !quote 50
[19:14:31] <Bender> Quote 50 - <janrinok> ... although I suspect I grabbed the wrong comment
[19:14:46] <cmn32480> lol
[19:15:22] <janrinok> ah well, back to my programming
[19:15:34] <cmn32480> the quiet helps with that does it?
[19:15:42] <janrinok> LOTS!
[19:16:32] <janrinok> time for tea!
[19:17:15] <cmn32480> tea++
[19:17:15] <Bender> karma - tea: 28
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[19:46:05] -!- mode/#editorial [+v mrpg] by Hephaestus
[19:47:23] <mrpg> Hi, do you like the skimming submission, should I work on it?
[19:47:58] * cmn32480 has no idea what you are talking about.... and goes to take a gander
[19:48:21] <mrpg> I have no idea what a gander is. The submission is about attacks on ATMs
[19:48:42] <cmn32480> taking a gander is a slang term for taking a look
[19:48:56] <cmn32480> it is also a male goose
[19:48:59] <janrinok> this^
[19:49:07] <janrinok> this^^
[19:49:14] <mrpg> aaah ok.
[19:49:16] <mrpg> Skimming is the crime of getting private information about somebody else's credit card used in an otherwise normal transaction.
[19:49:17] <janrinok> taking a quick look
[19:49:43] <cmn32480> I know what skimming in the credit card sense is...
[19:49:55] <cmn32480> it is also the act of using a very flat net to take the leaves out of your pool
[19:50:30] <mrpg> And I like the one about the basic income.
[19:50:39] <cmn32480> both are good stories
[19:50:46] <cmn32480> note that the basic income one had multiple subs
[19:50:55] <cmn32480> I think
[19:52:38] <mrpg> I see only one submission, and one story about Finland testing it.
[19:53:00] <mrpg> ok I'll do the one with the net in the pool. skimming.
[19:53:15] <cmn32480> it was merged
[19:53:27] <cmn32480> currently story 19 and 20 on the story list
[19:53:39] <cmn32480> janrinok - we need to make sure we show charon how to do a merge.
[19:54:10] <janrinok> OK - which story triggered that?
[19:54:38] <janrinok> I assumed that the ones where he has posted no-displays were late merges
[19:55:18] <cmn32480> no I remember seeing them both in the queue
[19:55:23] <cmn32480> maybe he missed them
[19:55:56] <janrinok> ah, OK, then next time you or I speak to him we'll bring it to his attention
[19:56:49] <cmn32480> ~tell charon remind me or janrinok to beat you about the head and shoulders regarding merges.
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[19:57:40] * janrinok notes that cmn32480 is as tactful this year as he was last...
[19:58:09] <cmn32480> there goes that new years resolution
[19:58:50] <cmn32480> ~tell charon nevermind me.. talk to janrinok.. he's currently being mean to me, so I'll dump this one on him
[19:59:04] <janrinok> lol
[19:59:38] <janrinok> time for me to go
[19:59:47] <janrinok> ~gnight cmn32480
[19:59:48] * exec fanatically ejaculates a mighty bundle of Ubuntu "Epileptic Elephant" at cmn32480
[19:59:54] <janrinok> ~gnight mrpg
[19:59:55] * exec unjustifiably generates a small script that substitutes an ace archive of truffles for mrpg
[20:00:15] <cmn32480> ~gnight janrinok \
[20:00:16] * exec insensitively fires a snatched purse full of gold doubloons at janrinok
[20:00:55] <cmn32480> give my best to S, please
[20:01:05] <mrpg> the ace archive is substituted for what? maybe a LHA file?
[20:01:30] <mrpg> bye see you later
[20:07:55] <janrinok> S wishes you all a very Happy and Healthy New Year!
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[20:10:01] <nick> i added another note to the thatcher story, but whatever... also runaways 'populism' sub, also whatever...
[20:14:16] <nick> author of runaways article was actually expelled from UKIP for"bringing the party into disrepute" after a couple of indiscretions (racist slur describing UKIP supporters, owing child support, financial irregularities in expenses)
[20:18:12] <mrpg> We need to moderate the submissions :-) agree - don't agree - set for later - etc
[20:19:37] <mrpg> <sarcasm> like facebook! OMG so good! like - lonely - super happy - sad. </sarcasm>
[20:20:09] <cmn32480> we just need a like button with emoji
[20:21:10] <cmn32480> we should put in a bug report, and run a breaking news story on it jsut to screw with TheMightyBuzzard
[20:21:49] <mrpg> But only the NEW emojis.
[20:22:15] <cmn32480> yes.. duh.. I didn't think I needed to specify that
[20:23:04] <mrpg> and we could make our own submissions to the unicode comittee !!!!!1!12"1!
[20:23:13] <cmn32480> WOOT!
[20:23:17] <cmn32480> mrpg++
[20:23:17] <Bender> karma - mrpg: 4
[20:23:24] <mrpg> Everybody let's draw start your pencils!
[20:26:07] <cmn32480> I always love it when people pull the dates off a forwarded email that gives cluses that they ahve had it in their box for weeks
[20:26:28] <cmn32480> for instance... the one has no date, but says, "I will be in touch after the holidays"
[20:26:38] <cmn32480> to me that incdicates it was sent before christmas
[20:30:20] <mrpg> good
[20:30:32] <mrpg> smart sleuth
[20:31:06] <cmn32480> yeah.. btu it requires me to do somethign by Friday.
[20:31:16] <cmn32480> on a nearly million dollar project
[20:32:01] <mrpg> Say to them: do you expect me to do this when you emailed me 2 days ago?
[20:39:50] <mrpg> The older I grow, the less important the comma becomes. Let the reader catch his own breath. -- Elizabeth Clarkson Zwart
[21:09:41] <mrpg> My dept for the skimming story is "blame magnetism" I'm soooooooooooo funny. Meanwhile the basic income submission is from june 2016.
[21:10:00] <cmn32480> ooof
[21:10:08] <cmn32480> is it a dupe that we already ran?
[21:10:36] <mrpg> No, the submission is for a june 2016 link.
[21:10:55] <mrpg> No the story.
[21:12:09] <mrpg> The story says the experiment began january 1 2017.
[21:12:58] <mrpg> That's all for today, It's been a pleasure, take care, have fun, clean your mess, save money and take backups!
[21:13:23] <cmn32480> I ~gnight mrpg
[21:13:29] <cmn32480> ~gnight mrpg
[21:13:30] * exec skeptically imagines a big floppy donkey dick of puns with mrpg
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[22:55:19] <charon_> arglebargle
[23:01:31] <charon_> cmn32480: i know how to do a merge. but i didn't see the second sub until after i had already finalized the first
[23:04:08] <charon_> unless there's a way to merge a sub into an already in queue story?