#editorial | Logs for 2016-12-17

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[00:08:48] <mrpg> Well, two stories and one submission, I've earned my soylentnews.org email today.
[00:09:54] <mrpg> Gentlemen adieu.
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[01:55:03] <takyon> Fuck you for editing this mrpg/charon_! https://soylentnews.org I'll never submit a story again!
[01:55:05] <exec> └─ 13Error
[01:55:06] <takyon> nah whatever
[01:55:29] <takyon> just a long as bytram gets to see this: https://soylentnews.org
[01:55:31] <exec> └─ 13Twitter Cuts Off Spies' Access to Search Tool... Again?: SoylentNews Submission
[01:56:31] <takyon> I am deathly ill
[01:56:40] <takyon> http://www.usatoday.com
[01:56:44] <exec> └─ 13Defying California, Uber won't stop self-driving cars
[01:56:46] <takyon> Niiice
[01:57:10] <takyon> #fite California
[01:57:10] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see California
[01:57:25] <takyon> #fite Russia
[01:57:25] * MrPlow #fite looks around but doesn't see Russia
[02:06:05] * charon_ hangs his head in shame. for some reason
[02:07:33] * cmn32480 suggest takyon take some nyquil and a shot or two of booze and hit the sack
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[03:43:12] <takyon> prenda law headline has an unclosed quotation
[03:43:16] <takyon> cmn32480
[03:43:24] <takyon> I assume it's a scare quote
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[10:04:52] <FatPhil> who seconded my Galileo story?!? you missed a typo!
[10:07:32] <janrinok> twas I!
[10:52:39] <cmn32480> back late this afternoon
[10:52:44] <cmn32480> ~gday #editorial
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[10:56:17] <cmn32480> Wreaths Across America Event at Arlington National Cemetary with the Cub Scouts
[11:22:17] <cmn32480> and ... cancelled due to icy roads
[11:23:11] <FatPhil> thanks obama!
[11:28:51] <FatPhil> From the only trip I made to america in the early 90s, the only visual memories I have are of Arlington, the Vietnam war memorial and the Washington monument.
[11:29:48] <cmn32480> sounds about right FatPhil
[11:29:59] <cmn32480> 2 of 3 are very moving experiences
[11:30:20] <cmn32480> emotionally, I mean... the Washington Onument moves you vertically
[11:30:29] <FatPhil> very
[11:31:13] <FatPhil> I'm mostly a pacifist, thet moved me to tears
[11:32:13] <cmn32480> the Washington Monument does that to me too... but I'm afraid of heights
[11:33:26] <cmn32480> it's been years since I was in Arlington
[11:33:30] <FatPhil> the only reason it stick out in my memory is that I tried to do a silly false perspective photo of it.
[11:33:52] <cmn32480> but the Wall is a very emotional place for a lot of people
[11:34:33] <FatPhil> but I wasn't using an SLR, so the monument stuck out of my mate's chin rather than his mouth.
[11:34:36] <cmn32480> one of the guys I work with makes a pilgrimage there once or twice a year... he says it is to visit with old friends
[11:35:36] <cmn32480> he spent a tour in vietnam during the war
[11:36:25] <FatPhil> g/f's parents are both USAF, Korea-era.
[11:36:57] <cmn32480> they have a memorial as well... just a different kind of haunting
[11:37:26] <FatPhil> her dad had a veterans trip to Arlington and other monuments earlier this year.
[11:38:16] <FatPhil> tears were shed, I'm sure.
[11:38:19] <cmn32480> first time he'd been there?
[11:38:37] <cmn32480> hell makes me wanna cry.. I cna't imagine what it is like for guys that were there
[11:39:13] <FatPhil> he's been to the pentagon for meetings, but don't know if he had time for other things
[11:39:31] <cmn32480> gotcah
[11:39:43] <FatPhil> and this is why I'm mostly a pacifist.
[11:40:23] <FatPhil> but if tanks start rolling west from st petersburg, I'm picking up a gun.
[11:40:41] <cmn32480> I think that is the position of most...
[11:40:56] <cmn32480> the minute you threaten my home, it's on like Donkey Kong
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[14:40:42] <cmn32480> #fite Hephaestus
[14:40:42] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[14:40:58] <MrPlow> #fite Hephaestus falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
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[18:21:51] <Fnord666> ~gday #editorial
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[18:22:44] <janrinok> ~gday Fnord666
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[18:23:02] * cmn32480 kick Windows server in the head
[18:23:27] <janrinok> hi again cmn32480 - not having a good day?
[18:23:47] <Fnord666> hi janrinok - how's things today?
[18:23:47] <cmn32480> stuck on ge5tting PHP working on the new web server
[18:24:07] <janrinok> Fnord666, not bad, doing a bit of python programming
[18:24:24] <cmn32480> ~gday Fnord666
[18:24:27] * exec unnecessarily pukes a raid 4 volume of includes on Fnord666
[18:24:28] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
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[18:24:32] <Fnord666> ~gday cmn32480
[18:24:35] * exec homogeneously pesters a cache of oil with cmn32480
[18:25:59] * cmn32480 is feeling so dumb he is watching a youtube tutorial
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[18:26:27] <janrinok> hi again nick - had your doughnuts?
[18:35:33] <paulej72> mmmmmm donuts
[18:36:08] <janrinok> ~gday paulej72
[18:36:09] * exec hurriedly copies a dash of caffeine for paulej72
[18:36:40] <Fnord666> hey paulej72
[19:07:54] <paulej72> dash is correct, as my heart is not fond of caffeine
[19:55:37] <janrinok> ~gnight guys
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[19:56:59] <cmn32480> ~gnight janrinok
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[19:58:25] <cmn32480> give S my best, please
[19:58:48] <janrinok> will do thx, and mine to J
[19:59:05] <cmn32480> I sahll!
[19:59:08] <cmn32480> night
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[21:02:42] <Fnord666> ~gday nick
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[21:48:29] <nick> howdy Fnord666
[21:49:23] <Fnord666> hi nick
[21:49:33] <nick> how are you?
[21:50:32] <Fnord666> good. enjoying the day off. Yourself?
[21:52:08] <nick> waiting for lunch to cook, but also doing some reading/research
[22:02:47] <Fnord666> Sounds like a good day. What's the weather doing in your neck of the woods?
[22:03:38] <nick> ~weather
[22:03:39] <exec> 10Laurium, Calumet Township, MI, USA - currently 6°F / -14°C, cloudy, wind N at 11 mph, humidity 78% - Saturday snow showers (-1°F:9°F / -18°C:-13°C), Sunday snow showers (-5°F:6°F / -21°C:-14°C), Monday cloudy (19°F:21°F / -7°C:-6°C), Tuesday snow showers (25°F:32°F / -4°C:0°C)
[22:03:49] * nick is no longer in south america
[22:04:05] <cmn32480> nick is currently freezing his ass of
[22:04:07] <cmn32480> f
[22:05:57] <Fnord666> ~weather
[22:05:58] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[22:06:24] <Fnord666> That's quite a change from South America
[22:07:23] <nick> will make me appreciate the south american
[22:07:33] <nick> 'winter' i'll experience in a few months
[22:08:05] <cmn32480> Fnord666 - you can do ~weather-add <location>
[22:08:52] <Fnord666> ~weather-add Cincinnati
[22:08:52] <exec> syntax: ~weather-add name location (name cannot contain spaces but location can contain spaces)
[22:09:10] <Fnord666> ~weather-add Fnord666 Cincinnati
[22:09:10] <exec> name "Fnord666" set for location "Cincinnati"
[22:09:15] <Fnord666> ~weather
[22:09:17] <exec> 10Cincinnati, OH, USA - currently 62°F / 17°C, cloudy, wind SW at 9 mph, humidity 84% - Saturday freezing rain (27°F:62°F / -3°C:17°C), Sunday cloudy (11°F:28°F / -12°C:-2°C), Monday partly cloudy (16°F:26°F / -9°C:-3°C), Tuesday sunny (22°F:39°F / -6°C:4°C)
[22:09:29] <cmn32480> downside is that I can also say
[22:09:33] <cmn32480> ~weather Fnord666
[22:09:34] <exec> 10Cincinnati, OH, USA - currently 62°F / 17°C, cloudy, wind SW at 9 mph, humidity 84% - Saturday freezing rain (27°F:62°F / -3°C:17°C), Sunday cloudy (11°F:28°F / -12°C:-2°C), Monday partly cloudy (16°F:26°F / -9°C:-3°C), Tuesday sunny (22°F:39°F / -6°C:4°C)
[22:10:01] <Fnord666> ~weather cmn32480
[22:10:03] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 36°F / 2°C, partly cloudy, wind N at 1 mph, humidity 87% - Saturday scattered showers (38°F:40°F / 3°C:4°C), Sunday rain (27°F:57°F / -3°C:14°C), Monday partly cloudy (26°F:34°F / -3°C:1°C), Tuesday sunny (30°F:38°F / -1°C:3°C)
[22:10:12] <cmn32480> 'zactly
[22:10:14] <nick> i was invited to spend the holidays here, and i'm making the most of all the 'merican hospitality and good(bad) foodings
[22:12:21] <Fnord666> That was kind of someone.
[22:13:04] <nick> it was, especially as i didn't have much else to do, and it's actually somewhat cost effective as i miss out peak tourist season in SA
[22:14:02] <nick> trying to find a better more permenant base in SA was proving difficult as the better rental properties were counting on tourist season prices rather than longer term lets
[22:14:09] <Fnord666> prices vary that much eh?
[22:15:06] <nick> when you need somewhere that's at least somewhat furnished, it does... the places will probably be empty most of the time, but they can apparently get away with charging $100(US) a day for a reasonable house with some furnishings/appliances
[22:17:17] <nick> but i do now have a local representative who is working on things for me, so it should be a lot easier on my return
[22:17:35] <Fnord666> That sounds like a good way to go.
[22:18:17] <nick> there is method to my madness
[22:19:12] <Fnord666> but is there a madness to your method?
[22:19:23] <nick> absolutely
[22:20:39] <nick> trying to make the most of where i am now with doing reading and researching, am hoping to do a lot of writing next year, possibly video-documentary type stuff too
[22:46:50] <Fnord666> Apologies, had to take a call. What sort of writing do you do?
[22:51:25] <nick> following my general interests, business/economics, media trends and geopolitics
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[22:52:11] <nick> i've spent the last year toying with the idea of writing a book that touches on those 3 topics, but i'd like to make it more accessible
[22:56:57] <Fnord666> Sounds ambitious.
[22:58:35] <Fnord666> Are you going for a broader view or something very focused on the situation/world today?
[23:01:37] <nick> to make it engaging and informative is challenging, to construct a compelling narrative whilst avoiding bias or oversimplifying. i'd like to go with a broader view of i'd guess the last few decades
[23:03:25] <nick> but it's important not to lose context and act as if modern history has a cut-off like that or began at one particular event
[23:04:19] <Fnord666> Sounds like a good balance.
[23:04:45] <Fnord666> Detail wise I mean.
[23:06:24] <nick> but as i said, i'm leaning to doing shorter articles and some video, as opposed to going more long form... short attention span for me and any potential audience
[23:06:28] <Fnord666> I'm sure you'll find a theme or topic that emerges during the writing that, when traced backwards, provides a good place to start.
[23:08:09] <nick> the advantage of working in the format i'm thinking about is it doesn't matter if i start at the wrong place, easier to add revisions and update
[23:09:01] <nick> the couple ideas im working on now are not directly connected or chronological, if you know what i mean
[23:09:39] <Fnord666> Are they correlated at all?
[23:10:52] <nick> sure, but that would be another thing in itself which is part of the interesting thing about doing it. as you said, tracing it back
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[23:12:07] <Fnord666> hey charon_
[23:12:26] <charon_> hiyo Fnord666
[23:12:37] <charon_> how's tricks?
[23:13:20] <Fnord666> slow night. The rain's keeping everyone at home. Yourself?
[23:14:05] <Fnord666> nick - That's part of the fun in the research, right?
[23:14:27] <charon_> slow here at the moment. but the during the time i was working on an important work project, everyone decided to drop in
[23:14:55] <nick> Fnord666, correct
[23:14:59] <nick> hey charon_
[23:15:03] <charon_> hiyo nick
[23:15:19] <charon_> still in the mitten state?
[23:16:54] <nick> aye
[23:18:20] <Fnord666> gotta run for a bit. back later.
[23:19:03] * nick hat tip Fnord666
[23:19:14] <charon_> seeya fnord
[23:19:38] <charon_> hey cmn32480, i fixed your missing quotation mark!
[23:24:43] <cmn32480> charon_ - bout time you did somethign worthwhile
[23:29:48] <cmn32480> I'm impressed that y'all only found the one mistake... I usually make 4 or 5
[23:30:50] <charon_> i know. i went over it with a fine comb looking for more errors
[23:35:46] <cmn32480> you look to need more training then
[23:36:57] <charon_> but you said my training was complete, master yoda
[23:37:09] <cmn32480> your training is never truly complete
[23:37:51] <cmn32480> shoot I still see stuff that is new and different
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