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[02:37:50] <Bytram> reinstall of ubuntu-mate 14.04 in a new VirtualBox VM went well, except I am currently limited to 640x480 resolution. :(
[02:56:59] <chromas> Do you have the vbox guest additions package installed?
[02:57:38] <chromas> Some distros don't come with the vbox xorg driver
[03:00:49] <cmn32480> I think the last time I did it I had to donwload that from VBox
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[04:11:21] <charon> hiyo mrpg
[04:14:21] <mrpg> Hi, how are you, it's midnight here.
[04:15:13] <charon> i'm alright. glad to have a night off from work. how are you?
[04:18:20] <mrpg> This is the last week of work this year so I've been eating a lot with co-workers :-) now I'm doing pasta.
[04:20:36] <charon> that sounds nice. at least if you like your co-workers
[04:21:50] <mrpg> Yes. I keep bad people at a distance.
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[12:47:55] <cmn32480> third sub for the professor watchlist from aristarchus
[12:48:01] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[12:48:03] <exec> └─ 13Professor Watchlist: be afraid. : SoylentNews Submission
[12:48:05] <cmn32480> thats the second one
[12:48:54] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[12:48:56] <exec> └─ 13Enfante Terrible threaten smarties: Professor Watchlist! : SoylentNews Submission
[12:48:56] <cmn32480> the first one
[12:51:40] <cmn32480> janrinok ^^^
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[14:35:24] -!- mode/#editorial [+v janrinok] by Hephaestus
[14:35:42] <janrinok> hello soylentils
[15:28:56] <Bytram> janrinok: hello
[15:29:18] <janrinok> Bytram, hi, how's things?
[15:29:30] <Bytram> ***COLD***
[15:29:38] <janrinok> how cold?
[15:30:01] <Bytram> 2F wind chill -11F (it has warmed up a bit)
[15:30:23] <janrinok> lol
[15:30:46] <Bytram> and, on an entirely different note...
[15:30:55] <Bytram> congratulations on posting your 3200th story!
[15:31:07] <Bytram> !woop
[15:31:07] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[15:31:13] <janrinok> I hadn't noticed - but thx!
[15:31:28] * Bytram doesn't miss *too* much
[15:31:49] <Bytram> how's things with you?
[15:32:50] <janrinok> not bad, I'm having a radio and raspberry pi day today. I am plotting the aircraft moving around this region - just for something to keep the grey matter active
[15:33:05] <Bytram> neat!
[15:33:19] <Bytram> mode model RPi?
[15:33:29] <Bytram> ugh
[15:33:32] <Bytram> what model of RPi do you have
[15:33:49] <janrinok> I have all 3, but I'm using the RPi original (I suppose it should be called a '1')
[15:33:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:34:27] * Bytram is getting tempted to get one, but wonders how "performant" they are.. also question of what I'd use for a display
[15:35:48] <janrinok> the latest uses a quad core ARM, and can handle such things as watching movies, general web work, etc. I wouldn't want to compile a large program using one though
[15:35:59] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:36:15] * Bytram had forgotten about it being a quad core
[15:36:34] <Bytram> the latest is what, the 3B or something?
[15:36:52] <janrinok> I use them for routine jobs that need continuous operation. I have one analyzing my firewall, another is an internal server for media
[15:37:04] <Bytram> nice!
[15:37:25] <janrinok> Yes, I think it might be called a 3B, but to be honest I forget their 'official' names. I just know what capabilities they have
[15:37:38] <Bytram> alternatively, I'd like to get an inexpensive tablet that I could root and run Linux on (ideally a flavor of Ubuntu)
[15:38:06] <janrinok> they take negligible power and for those sort of jobs don't need a screen - I just ssh into them
[15:38:32] <Bytram> that's for when you need to be very very quiet? shh!
[15:38:41] <Bytram> ;)
[15:39:13] <janrinok> I do have one that is 'permanently attached to a screen, and uses wireless kbd and mouse. So it is easy to move around and use wherever I want it
[15:39:27] <janrinok> I got the joke ...
[15:39:31] <Bytram> sounds very nice
[15:40:03] <Bytram> on an entirely different note, I created a new VirtualBox VM and installed Ubuntu 14.04 on it... but the "display" is limited to 640x480 -- a little cramped for my liking
[15:40:06] <janrinok> it is useful for troubleshooting, or taking elsewhere to use for internet access
[15:40:14] <Bytram> I bet!
[15:40:53] <janrinok> I've had that 'problem' - there is a option that you have to toggle to get the full res, but I'm just wracking my brains to remember what it is
[15:41:19] <Bytram> I tried all the things I could locate last night.. no joy yet.
[15:41:33] <Bytram> am gonna give it anotehr try today -- a little more sleep might help
[15:41:50] <Bytram> was hoping you might be able to say "Oh, THAT... what ya gotta do is..." =)
[15:42:08] <janrinok> well, I should be able to do that, but at my age.....
[15:42:16] <Bytram> do you recall if it was a setting for ubuntu or something in my VM?
[15:42:20] <Bytram> lol
[15:42:30] <Bytram> methinks itis a ubuntu thing
[15:42:44] <janrinok> have you got the host extensions installed with VirtualBox?
[15:43:00] <janrinok> it is not distro specific
[15:43:02] <Bytram> not sure...
[15:43:19] <Bytram> tried to install 'em way back when, not sure that it was entirely successful
[15:43:37] <janrinok> it is an extra package that gives you full access to the USB ports and screen, among other things
[15:43:47] <Bytram> ISTR having problems with cutr/paste between VM and windows
[15:44:15] <Bytram> ditto with mounting a 'shared folder" for passing files back and forth
[15:44:28] <janrinok> never had a problem with that though
[15:44:45] <Bytram> has been long enough ago, though, that I'm not certain if I am remembering early problems or the current state of affairs
[15:46:49] <Bytram> before I go about fixing things too much, am making a full clone of my current VM
[15:47:28] <Bytram> disk drive light is solid, but progress meter is stationary -- could take a while, it seems
[15:47:46] <Bytram> break time... biab
[15:55:19] <Bytram> clone complete... starts original VM (VB002)
[15:56:00] <takyon> ~eds
[15:56:01] <exec> editor ping for takyon: janrinok zz_janrinok n1 nick martyb Bytram cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away Fnord666 charon GreatOutdoors FatPhil Snow goodie mrpg
[15:56:10] <takyon> a note to all eds, especially new ones
[15:56:25] <takyon> don't avoid looking at a submission just because it has a "VIEW NOTE" next to it
[15:56:27] <Bytram> what's up?
[15:56:32] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:56:44] <takyon> I know this goes on, because these submissions tend to sink to the top of the list (aka linger)
[15:56:50] <takyon> heheh
[15:57:24] <takyon> for example, there is nothing wrong with https://soylentnews.org ... I just put the study link in the notes
[15:57:26] <exec> └─ 13Scientists Reverse Ageing in Mammals and Predict Human Trials Within 10 Years : SoylentNews Submission
[15:58:57] <takyon> as for you, bytram
[15:59:08] <takyon> if you check my latest submission, you mind find it to be VERY familiar
[15:59:31] <takyon> *might
[16:00:14] * Bytram got interrupted while changing a VM parameter to scaled mode display ... now it hid the controls and I don't recall what key combo reverts it.
[16:00:40] <janrinok> lol
[16:01:59] <janrinok> right control HOST KEY + C
[16:02:21] <Bytram> me just reset the vm using vbox controls
[16:02:37] <janrinok> ... or pull the plug out
[16:02:55] <Bytram> lol
[16:03:08] <Bytram> right-ctrl + C worked THANKS!!
[16:03:33] <janrinok> that is one of the few to remember - because when you can't see the help it isn't helpful
[16:03:44] <Bytram> tautology++
[16:03:44] <Bender> karma - tautology: 1
[16:03:47] <Bytram> =)
[16:06:10] <janrinok> Bytram, you have to install guest additions to adjust the guest screen geometry to the host screen - quote from the internet
[16:07:02] <Bytram> agreed, just found that out after a search in the web... seems there might be issues with it, though... reading more
[16:07:02] <Bytram> http://askubuntu.com
[16:07:04] <exec> └─ 13Screen Resolution Problem with Ubuntu 14.04 and VirtualBox - Ask Ubuntu
[16:08:42] <janrinok> make sure you install the dkms package for guest additions
[16:09:02] <janrinok> it is in the repos
[16:09:13] <Bytram> FWIW, am running virtualbox 5.0.0r101573
[16:09:30] <janrinok> is that from the 14.04 repo?
[16:09:42] <Bytram> just a sec
[16:10:08] <janrinok> I'm running 16.04 so I cannot check
[16:14:27] * Bytram runs the extpack
[16:15:32] * Bytram gets a dialog box (d/b) an older version is installed (5.0.0r101573) ... would I I like to upgrade? new is: 5.0.24r 108355
[16:15:47] * Bytram clicks upgrade
[16:16:53] <janrinok> that's the version that I use
[16:17:03] * Bytram agrees to license terms
[16:17:15] <Bytram> failed to install the extension pack
[16:17:47] <Bytram> copy/paste follows:
[16:17:47] <Bytram> The installer failed with exit code 1: VBoxExtPackHelperApp.exe: error: Failed to rename the extension pack directory: VERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[16:17:47] <Bytram> VBoxExtPackHelperApp.exe: error: If the problem persists, try running the command: VBoxManage extpack cleanup
[16:17:47] <Bytram> rcExit=1.
[16:17:47] <Bytram> Result Code:
[16:17:47] <Bytram> E_FAIL (0x80004005)
[16:17:48] <Bytram> Component:
[16:17:51] <Bytram> ExtPackManagerWrap
[16:17:51] <Bytram> Interface:
[16:17:52] <Bytram> IExtPackManager {edba9d10-45d8-b440-1712-46ac0c9bc4c5}
[16:17:55] <janrinok> have you installed the dkms pkgs?
[16:18:05] <Bytram> it had previously prompted for me to enter admin mode and I had agreed
[16:18:05] <Bytram> nope
[16:18:42] <Bytram> am going to try, now:
[16:18:42] <Bytram> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms
[16:18:49] <Bytram> is that the right one?
[16:19:13] <janrinok> well, assuming you have also installed the matching kernel-dkms yes
[16:19:30] <Bytram> not sure
[16:20:49] <Bytram> ahhh...
[16:21:13] <janrinok> I've got to go do some cooking - will you be on later or will you be at work?
[16:21:20] <Bytram> hafe today off
[16:21:24] <Bytram> *have
[16:21:29] <janrinok> bonus!
[16:21:30] <Bytram> got some errands to run, meanwhile
[16:21:47] <Bytram> two in a row -- me is ecstatic
[16:21:59] <Bytram> but need to be AT work at 0645 tomorrow. :/
[16:22:49] <Bytram> barring any surprises, I should be back in a couple hours or so.
[16:22:54] <janrinok> but that is about midday my time ...
[16:23:04] <Bytram> lol
[16:23:13] <janrinok> that is is lie-in for me
[16:23:24] <Bytram> I'll suggest they box up the store and move it to your back yard. =)
[16:23:24] <janrinok> if I ever got such a thing
[16:23:32] <Bytram> nap time?
[16:23:42] <janrinok> no - cooking dinner
[16:23:51] janrinok is now known as janrinok_afk
[16:24:22] <Bytram> much appreciate the help! will check back in when I return
[16:25:34] <Bytram> #fite MrPlow
[16:25:34] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[16:25:39] <MrPlow> #fite MrPlow falls broken at Bytram's feet.
[16:26:01] <Bytram> #fite Loggie
[16:26:01] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[16:26:13] <MrPlow> #fite Bytram falls broken at Loggie's feet.
[16:26:20] <Bytram> :(
[16:26:23] <Bytram> laters
[16:26:31] <Bytram> afk
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[17:28:40] <Snow> g'mornin crew :)
[18:01:11] * cmn32480 finally retuinrs from the warehouse
[18:13:01] <janrinok_afk> hi Snow
[18:17:01] <janrinok_afk> ~gday cmn32480
[18:17:03] * exec insensitively cropdusts yo mama of broken promises over cmn32480
[18:17:13] <cmn32480> ~GDAY janrinok_afk
[18:17:14] * exec casually mixes a rusty trombone of off-by-ones with janrinok_afk
[18:17:27] <cmn32480> sorr have caps on for the part number spreadsheet i'm trying to work on
[18:17:33] <janrinok_afk> PARDON?
[18:17:38] <cmn32480> NOTHIGN
[18:17:45] <janrinok_afk> lol
[18:18:55] <Snow> Hey cnm, Jan
[18:19:12] <janrinok_afk> ~gday Snow
[18:19:13] * exec cantankerously bitchslaps a barrage of bad naked with Snow
[18:19:49] <cmn32480> ~GDAY SNOW
[18:19:50] * exec readily generates a small script that substitutes a heap of Windows 10 for SNOW
[18:19:53] <Snow> I just wanted to let everyone know that I probably won't be too active the new few weeks. My wife is super preggers and we found our that our baby is breach, so there have been many, many appointments and things to get looked after. And then the baby comes... So yeah...
[18:20:17] <cmn32480> !woot FOR PREGGERS
[18:20:17] <janrinok_afk> np - good luck to you both, and thanks for letting us know
[18:20:26] <cmn32480> NO WOOT FOR BREACH
[18:20:38] * cmn32480 suggests a scheduled C-Section
[18:20:39] <janrinok_afk> The teams very best wishes to your wife
[18:21:02] janrinok_afk is now known as janrinok
[18:21:07] <cmn32480> whcih is better than an unschscheduled C-Section
[18:21:17] <cmn32480> my wife has had both
[18:21:19] <Snow> haha, thanks! I'm confident that everything will be fine, it's just a little stressful right now because everything is happening at once. She might so the c-section route... Still on the fence, but that's her call
[18:21:38] <cmn32480> your first?
[18:21:42] <Snow> ya
[18:21:50] <Snow> I'm really excited.
[18:21:57] <cmn32480> well.. I know I'm early.. but Congratulations Daddy
[18:22:03] <Snow> I used to be mostly scared, but the scary parts have worn off
[18:22:10] <Snow> thanks!
[18:22:36] <cmn32480> trust me when I tell you, the C-Section piece is no picninc for you... I ammost had to change my shorts
[18:23:14] <cmn32480> first introduction I had to my oldest was a view odf the doctor with his arm elbow deep in my wife muttering somethign abotu him being a slippery sucker
[18:23:21] <Snow> oh really? I have no idea what to expect...
[18:23:34] <cmn32480> i was in the OR for all 3 CSectiosn
[18:23:43] <janrinok> and cmn32480 is helping to allay those fears?
[18:23:54] <cmn32480> it is scary from the perspective of your wife is undergoing major surgery
[18:24:01] <Snow> haha, info is good :)
[18:24:03] <cmn32480> and you are in the room.
[18:24:13] <Snow> I don't know if I would be in the room or not
[18:24:18] <Snow> I really don't know anything...
[18:24:43] <janrinok> that's why you fit in so well here ....
[18:24:44] <Snow> It's a low risk operation, but I don't know how I would feel to see them actually cutting her open
[18:24:46] <cmn32480> but I will tell you that there is no feeling in the world quite so good as holding your first baby
[18:24:51] <cmn32480> you won't see it
[18:25:04] <cmn32480> you'll be behind a sterile drape, holding her hand
[18:25:21] <Snow> oh, interesting
[18:25:30] <cmn32480> our doctor offered that if I wanted to see thebaby being born, I could stand up and WITHOUT TOUCHING ANYTHING look over the drape to watch
[18:25:43] <cmn32480> I was so glad he did.
[18:25:53] <Snow> I think that she is going to try to deliver it normally though.
[18:25:58] * cmn32480 tears up a little at the memory
[18:26:02] <janrinok> because cmn had a beer in one hand and his camera in the other
[18:26:12] <Snow> She has an appt where they load her up with muscle relaxants and then try to massage the baby into place.
[18:26:15] <cmn32480> no cameras allowed during the surgery
[18:26:38] * janrinok is only jk
[18:26:41] <Snow> hopefully that works, but it apparantly has a relatively low chance of success (~35%)
[18:26:56] <Snow> I actually am thinking about smuggling in some beer
[18:27:12] <cmn32480> into the hospital?
[18:27:15] <Snow> ya
[18:27:16] <cmn32480> a flask will be easier
[18:27:17] <janrinok> don't offer it to the baby - they frown on that sort of thing
[18:27:52] <cmn32480> a few suggestions if I may?
[18:27:55] <Snow> I might be there a while, and a celebration beer would be nice. Plus my wife is CRAVING guiness.
[18:28:08] <cmn32480> these are thigns we learned the hard way with the first one
[18:28:21] <Snow> of course
[18:28:46] <cmn32480> 1) Know if you are going to breast feed 100% on the way in.
[18:29:10] <Snow> I'm really sorry, but I have to run out for a meeting, but I will definately be back on later and will read it all :)
[18:29:19] <cmn32480> no problem
[18:29:23] <cmn32480> I';ll be here all day
[18:29:26] <Snow> Or if you will be on later this afternoon, we can carry on then!
[18:29:34] <cmn32480> and the 7 o'clock show is different from the 10 o'clock show
[18:29:52] <Snow> Sorry! I would really like to hear your advice. Any help is good!
[18:29:59] <cmn32480> damn right
[18:30:02] <janrinok> could be an exciting Christmas for the guy!
[18:30:13] <cmn32480> sure sounds like it
[18:31:47] <janrinok> cmn32480, is Elsevier that organisation that provides dubious backdoors to research papers?
[18:32:09] <cmn32480> dunno
[18:32:15] <cmn32480> you thinking of Sci-Hub?
[18:32:29] <janrinok> ah OK, I've found another doing a similar thing but it looks legit
[18:32:53] <cmn32480> there are some papers that are just open
[18:33:02] <cmn32480> not as many as are paywalled.
[18:33:04] <cmn32480> linky?
[18:33:19] <janrinok> its on my other machine - hang on
[18:33:33] * cmn32480 just has a bunch of monitors on the same machine
[18:34:55] <janrinok> http://www.cell.com(16)31664-6
[18:35:34] <cmn32480> THAT IS AN ACTUAL JOURNAL
[18:36:21] <janrinok> yes but it redirects via elsevier every time I load it
[18:38:30] <janrinok> if you have js active it goes via the page without any (apparent), but if you use NoScript it clearly goes via Elsevier
[18:38:48] <cmn32480> i saw sam becasue no script freaked
[18:38:55] <janrinok> (apparent) redirect*
[18:39:00] <cmn32480> a quick goole of them gives this:
[18:39:10] <janrinok> I've been to their web site
[18:39:27] <cmn32480> looks like a book/journal shop
[18:39:31] <cmn32480> I'd call it legit
[18:39:45] <janrinok> yep, and if not I'm sure someone will tell us :)
[18:39:58] <cmn32480> proll
[18:40:00] <cmn32480> y
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[19:36:07] -!- mode/#editorial [+v charon_] by Hephaestus
[19:45:45] <charon_> hiyo editorial
[19:46:28] <janrinok> ~gday charon
[19:46:29] * exec sardonically a tumblr of cinnamon rolls floccinaucinihilipilificates charon
[19:48:05] <charon_> how are things in the 4 hours in the future??
[19:48:26] <charon_> jeez, so much for revising my typing before i hit enter
[19:48:34] <janrinok> not bad, almost time for me to go, I've got a few minutes left yet
[19:49:13] <janrinok> charon, its not bad, at least you are not typing in cmn32480 crypto
[19:49:22] <charon_> lol
[19:49:50] <charon_> poor cmn, everyone uses him as an example of typo worst case scenario
[19:50:46] <janrinok> well he's the best example that we have (of a bad typist)
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[19:51:05] <janrinok> but we like to think of him as being good at something
[19:51:11] <charon_> he must be. even he says so
[19:51:17] <janrinok> yup
[19:51:36] * cmn32480 wonders what he's good at
[19:51:53] <charon_> scanning bar codes?
[19:51:54] <janrinok> just singing your praises, honest
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[19:52:42] <cmn32480> liars!
[19:52:47] * cmn32480 blames crutchy
[19:53:07] <janrinok> I was saying that you were the best on the team - at some things
[19:53:31] <cmn32480> yes.. I raead the backscroll.. I'm the bestt at typoing
[19:53:42] <janrinok> see, I stuck up for you!
[19:54:06] <cmn32480> with friends like these,... who needs enemies
[19:54:31] <charon_> your enemies would not be half this mean to you
[19:54:33] <janrinok> who needs enemas indeed
[19:54:50] <cmn32480> yeah.. abuse is the way we show love.. I got that
[19:56:26] <charon_> another milestone: one of my submissions hit 150 comments
[19:56:42] * cmn32480 runs to set taht sub to no display
[19:57:02] <charon_> and last i checked it was not actually on fire
[19:57:20] <janrinok> congratulations!
[19:58:29] <cmn32480> this one? Test Predicts Which Children Will Grow Up to be Drain on Society
[19:59:45] <charon_> yes
[19:59:50] <cmn32480> i just had a very mean thoguht as to the one question on that test
[20:00:15] <cmn32480> "Did you grow up near a street named MLK Blvd?"
[20:00:19] <cmn32480> that sin't right
[20:00:22] <charon_> jerk ass
[20:00:30] <cmn32480> very much so
[20:01:33] <cmn32480> it is an interesting question. and I woudl guess (without reading anything) that the answer is a disproportionate amount of the peopel that end up as the "drain" are from urban areas
[20:02:31] <charon_> it's more than intelligence, it's also about family history and self-control
[20:03:14] <charon_> but if we can identify the kids who will be problems later, and tailor aid for them, society wins big
[20:03:34] <cmn32480> i think that is a valid statement
[20:03:47] <cmn32480> help thema little early on, or help them a lot later
[20:03:50] <charon_> obviously a very big IF in there
[20:04:03] <cmn32480> and some are going to be a drain regardless
[20:06:13] <charon_> this subject is near to me because I was one of those kids. somehow i turned out alright, but plenty of others did not
[20:06:55] <cmn32480> some kids are going to turn out good regardless., others not so much
[20:07:19] <cmn32480> a lot of it has to do with the kind of parenting they receive
[20:07:56] <janrinok> gtg guys
[20:07:56] <cmn32480> and some people are jsut driven to succeed, while some are just well... not
[20:08:00] <janrinok> ~gnight cmn32480
[20:08:01] <cmn32480> ~gnight janrinok
[20:08:01] <charon_> yep, that is huge.
[20:08:02] * exec analiciously ejaculates a dash of pain and suffering at cmn32480
[20:08:02] * exec irresponsibly writes a fanfic featuring a ring buffer of bacon-flavored candy canes about janrinok
[20:08:06] <charon_> ~gnight janrinok
[20:08:08] * exec flatulantly derives a cockle of toejam from janrinok
[20:08:08] <janrinok> ~gnight charon
[20:08:10] * exec emphatically nudges a udp packet of flappy tama toward charon
[20:08:31] <cmn32480> the only thing int ehre worth a shit was the bacon flavored candy canes
[20:08:46] <janrinok> nom nom nom
[20:08:50] <charon_> what the hell is flappy tama?
[20:08:50] <cmn32480> uh huh
[20:08:54] <cmn32480> my best to S janrinok
[20:09:01] <cmn32480> tama is a bot in #
[20:09:06] <cmn32480> you don't wanna know tama
[20:09:27] <cmn32480> ~define flappy tama
[20:09:28] <janrinok> thx - I will pass it on
[20:09:33] <exec> flappy tama: unable to find definition
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[20:09:38] <charon_> stump the bot
[20:09:44] <cmn32480> not too hard
[20:10:54] <charon_> well, i'm not driven to succeed either, but i did pull out of the nosedive i was in until my late teens
[20:11:17] <cmn32480> that is far better drive than most
[20:11:21] <cmn32480> or many
[20:11:44] <cmn32480> some are content to be in that nose dive and let society pick up the pices when they bit the ground
[20:12:05] <cmn32480> oh
[20:12:20] <cmn32480> god... this fucker wants me to go to canadia before year end
[20:12:52] <charon_> screw that.
[20:13:10] <charon_> you were promised the month at home, right?
[20:16:29] <cmn32480> ther's Hertz and there's not exactly
[20:16:41] <cmn32480> i have scheduled thigns so that I will ahve the month at home
[20:17:18] <cmn32480> and we try VERY hard not to travel in the last 2 weeks of the year becasue of the holiday and the chance that somebody gets stuck someplace
[20:19:05] <cmn32480> I-95 to I-87... and go North for 8 hours
[20:19:20] <charon_> if it's that far a drive, why not fly?
[20:19:40] * cmn32480 doesn't need any more frequent flier miles...
[20:19:49] <cmn32480> if I drive, I get cash
[20:20:25] <cmn32480> OR... I can look at the flight, get to the screen for the booking, print the receipt and drive taking the extra cash.
[20:21:01] <cmn32480> but that woudl be unethical... and profitable
[20:21:15] * charon_ says nothing
[20:21:25] * cmn32480 agrees
[20:22:10] <charon_> oh the other hand, i haven't flown in years because i don't like getting felt up at the airport
[20:22:34] <cmn32480> you get used to it
[20:22:43] <cmn32480> ask 'em to buy you dinner first. they love that
[20:22:56] <charon_> i'm sure they only hear that 100 times a day
[20:23:13] <cmn32480> likely
[20:27:50] <charon_> i love it when a new machine, shipped directly from the manufacturer, is missing a part
[20:28:21] <charon_> and by love, i mean it pisses me off roya\lly
[20:28:39] <cmn32480> your power cord?
[20:30:39] <charon_> nah, at work
[20:30:55] <cmn32480> well that's better at least
[20:31:08] <charon_> two shipments of the last four, new stuff comes without essential parts
[20:31:19] <cmn32480> yeah.. that'd piss me off
[20:31:33] <cmn32480> are tehy at least johnny on the spot getting you the missing parts?
[20:31:40] <charon_> the cord won't get here til tuesday
[20:31:55] <charon_> hahahahahahahahahhhahhahaaahaahhahahhhahahahhahhhaahhahaha
[20:31:56] * cmn32480 notes that you better not be driving a whole lot this weekend
[20:32:03] <charon_> i mean, no
[20:32:09] <cmn32480> 'course not
[20:32:51] <charon_> one part, they said, "just take it out of store inventory". the other one just came today, and i can't even find a part number to describe it
[20:36:03] <cmn32480> nice
[20:53:02] <charon_> that aristarchus sub about professor watchlist is an important story, can I submit a even handed version that I write myself and we give aristarchus an assist credit?
[20:53:18] <cmn32480> sure
[20:53:37] <cmn32480> merge, and only run the non-biased-af version
[20:54:15] <charon_> i don't want to take away from him at all, but damn. his third revision is nearly as bad as the first
[20:55:21] <cmn32480> read most of his stories
[20:55:25] <cmn32480> they are all liek that
[20:55:47] <charon_> i have, some of them are perfectly normal, some are like that
[20:56:36] <charon_> and he was flaming the hell out of runaway the other night. and runaway dished it back.
[20:56:44] <cmn32480> also the norm
[21:20:44] <charon_> hmm, what should i order for lunch?
[21:27:00] <cmn32480> I hasd left over chicken noodle soup
[21:27:09] <cmn32480> and a couple clementines
[21:28:53] <charon_> sounds good
[21:29:27] <charon_> i am stuck at work. i'm the only person here who knows how to use the computer systems when a customer shows up
[21:29:48] <cmn32480> it's delivery, not DiGiorno!
[21:30:23] <charon_> pizza is a possibility
[21:34:41] <charon_> but the only pizza place that looks good does not deliver. sub sandwiches it is
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[22:08:09] <mrpg> Hello. I'm editing one submission. I think the ending quote is on the wrong place. I'll leave it like that:
[22:08:09] <mrpg> “Renewables are robustly entering the era of undercutting” fossil fuel prices, - should be after prices right? English is not my first language but this is 'more wrong' than wronger :)
[22:08:45] <mrpg> Because it is a quote from the article I'll leave it like that. Ok?
[22:16:34] <mrpg> And I have no dept for it.
[22:34:54] <charon_> yes, if it is directly from the article, leave it as it is
[22:35:28] <charon_> but if it's a bad grammar error, you might want to add [sic].
[22:35:55] <Snow> Yea, I was just about to say the same thing. That is a direct quote from the article.
[22:38:23] <mrpg> ok
[22:39:40] <charon_> sorry it took so long to reply, i am at work
[22:39:41] <Snow> I'm trying to come up with a dept, but coming up blank....
[22:39:49] <Snow> I'll kepp thinking...
[22:42:43] <mrpg> Sure.
[22:43:11] <mrpg> dust in the wind dept. hehe
[22:46:51] <Snow> That works. I've got nothing :(
[22:47:44] <mrpg> but it is solar, not wind.
[22:48:46] <Snow> yea... Maybe the wind in the dust department?
[22:49:09] <mrpg> solar wind
[22:49:14] <Snow> ahh
[22:49:20] <Snow> now you are getting somewhere!
[22:49:24] <charon_> coal in the wind
[22:49:30] <mrpg> haha
[22:55:33] <Snow> What about the Sunshine, Lollipops and Rainbows dept
[22:56:24] <chromas> Solar Freakin' Headways
[22:58:09] <mrpg> Snow: that's for april 1st
[22:58:14] <charon_> Run Coward!
[22:58:53] <charon_> oh, that's sInistar... nm
[23:02:07] <Snow> haha
[23:02:47] <mrpg> well, solar wind it is.
[23:14:11] <mrpg> The twitter one: so much text, so many links, and at the end opinionated (though I agree wholeheartedly). Comments?
[23:21:12] <Snow> It's a great story, but ugly....
[23:22:44] <Snow> The guardinn link appears to have a nicer story. Maybe use that instead?
[23:23:37] <mrpg> Good idea, ok, I'm on it.
[23:26:47] <cmn32480> ~gday #editorial
[23:26:48] * exec half-heartedly tosses a fartbox of perl to #editorial
[23:27:21] <charon_> all hail cmn32480 , king of the typos
[23:27:38] <cmn32480> .kicck charon_
[23:27:41] <cmn32480> damnit
[23:27:51] <charon_> bwahahahah
[23:28:01] <cmn32480> stupid typos
[23:30:02] <charon_> oh look, a MRA sub
[23:31:01] <charon_> https://soylentnews.org
[23:31:03] <exec> └─ 13Wife goes on solo husband without cuck husband: SoylentNews Submission
[23:31:10] <cmn32480> I'm already deleting it
[23:31:14] <charon_> yay
[23:31:30] <cmn32480> done
[23:31:41] <charon_> anyone who uses that word gets demoted to moron in my estimation
[23:34:32] <cmn32480> as does anyone who thoguht that might get published here
[23:34:50] <cmn32480> 4/1 - Unfiltered submission queue
[23:35:16] <charon_> oh god, that would be awful. yet not without it's humor
[23:35:32] <cmn32480> hilarious
[23:36:13] <charon_> a week ahead we could announce it, so people can put on their best trolls
[23:36:49] <cmn32480> start at midnight.. adn just start pushing the shit out
[23:37:05] <cmn32480> it'd be a cluster... and oh so awesome
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[23:39:51] <charon_> every thread is 400 comments of red faced fury
[23:47:49] <cmn32480> dinner calls
[23:48:14] <mrpg> itadakimasu
[23:48:21] <mrpg> bon appetit
[23:48:40] <cmn32480> muchas gracia
[23:48:44] <cmn32480> s
[23:52:16] <mrpg> Ah! Spanish, I missed that one. Buen provecho.
[23:52:29] <mrpg> Twitter story ready.