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[01:00:34] <Fnord666> Evening all.
[01:03:18] <Fnord666> Anyone have any info on the SCOTUS/Samsung story that is set to nodisplay in the story queue?
[02:37:38] <charon> i know nothing. just got back in
[02:38:03] <charon> whoa. i guess the bouncer works. i just responded to a 90 minute old request
[02:46:19] <cmn32480> lol
[02:47:10] <cmn32480> when you start looking at backscroll after being out a few days and responding, that's when it gets funny
[02:47:10] <charon> hiyo cmn32480
[02:47:15] <cmn32480> ~gday charon
[02:47:16] <charon> i bet
[02:47:16] * exec abnormally deallocates an armpit of black holes from charon
[02:47:25] * cmn32480 is just now sitting down to dinner
[02:47:30] <charon> a bit late
[02:47:41] <cmn32480> yep
[02:47:43] <charon> on the road still?
[02:47:58] <cmn32480> ham pepperoni and pepperjack on bread w/ jalapeno chips
[02:48:02] <cmn32480> nah I'm home this week
[02:48:09] <cmn32480> for a change
[02:48:31] <charon> so that's a typical home-cooked meal in cmnland
[02:48:37] <cmn32480> no
[02:49:02] <cmn32480> but the kids were rough and neithre J nor I felt like cooking
[02:49:22] <charon> ahhh... my sympathies
[02:49:31] <cmn32480> \plus stripping my laptop to put in the replacement wifi card and speakers...
[02:50:18] <cmn32480> been a long day
[02:50:59] <charon> i have two kids, so i well recall the days when they'd wear me out
[02:51:05] <cmn32480> yeah
[02:51:08] <cmn32480> we have 3
[02:51:11] <cmn32480> 4 6 8
[02:51:18] <charon> zone defence
[02:51:27] <cmn32480> yep
[02:51:42] <cmn32480> some days it is more prevent then anything else
[02:52:20] <charon> it get easier. when they'r eteens, you'll be begging for them to talk to you
[02:52:45] <cmn32480> likely
[02:52:57] <cmn32480> I'm not complaining... they are generally pretty good kids
[02:53:13] <cmn32480> the usual battles about homework and such... but nothign really bad
[02:53:27] <charon> yeah, most kids are.
[02:53:35] <charon> parent just like to complain
[02:54:03] <cmn32480> the girl will be the problem child... at 4 she is already sassy
[02:54:26] <charon> heheh
[02:54:36] <charon> rebellion starts wiss sass
[02:54:46] <cmn32480> i know
[02:54:55] * cmn32480 cries a little
[02:55:06] <cmn32480> 4 going on 15
[02:55:14] <charon> you'll be fine. practice with the older one and make your mistakes on them
[02:55:20] <charon> ones
[02:55:20] <cmn32480> lol
[02:56:05] <cmn32480> but hell today was a productive day
[02:56:09] <cmn32480> I can't complain
[02:56:13] <cmn32480> or at least I shouldna
[02:56:19] <charon> cool
[02:56:35] <cmn32480> starting to finally wrk my way out from under some deadlines
[02:56:57] <cmn32480> being home helps a lot
[02:57:36] <charon> working from home? or just being at the office rather than road?
[02:57:46] <cmn32480> office rather than road
[02:58:09] <charon> i bet. you can stand in someone's cube doorway and loom
[02:58:23] <cmn32480> and never underestimate the power of sleeping in your own bed
[02:58:52] <cmn32480> nah.. I don't loom on my people... I send emails... and they like when I am around and relaxed to ask lots of technical questions
[02:59:26] <cmn32480> ok... occassionally I loom...
[02:59:29] <cmn32480> but I knock first!
[02:59:59] <charon> lol
[03:00:19] <charon> i am very tall, so i loom by accident
[03:00:47] <cmn32480> truth is al long as I am not stressed to the rafters (and my people can tell when that is) my door is always open and my groups takes advantage of my technical expertise when I am around
[03:01:28] <cmn32480> as I often say "everybody wants a piece of cmn32480 when I'm in the office"
[03:01:32] <charon> sounds like a great way to run things. it sucks to be afraid of your boss
[03:01:58] <cmn32480> the only time I get snappy is when the stress levels get too high
[03:02:40] <cmn32480> and my people are really good about trying to stay off me at those times so I get done what is the stress point
[03:02:51] <cmn32480> I'm lucky.. I have a great group
[03:03:54] <charon> are you involved in hiring?
[03:04:09] <cmn32480> I get to pick 'em
[03:04:17] <cmn32480> you know wireless?
[03:04:20] <charon> cool, you can choose people who will work well
[03:04:25] <cmn32480> I'm looking for a new wireless guy
[03:04:26] <charon> oh no. not at all
[03:04:32] <charon> i'm not fishing for a job
[03:04:45] <cmn32480> damnit
[03:04:55] <charon> just saying that you don't have someone dumped on you who may not know anything
[03:04:55] <cmn32480> I really am looking
[03:05:10] <cmn32480> nope all the techs get vetted by the rest of the techs
[03:05:32] <cmn32480> after they make it past me and my #2, they get to conversate with the group over lunch
[03:05:56] <cmn32480> with the boss being fairly silent and taking lots of mental notes
[03:06:02] <charon> "veto, he didn't get my star trek joke"
[03:06:18] <cmn32480> not quite THAT bad
[03:06:21] <cmn32480> but close
[03:06:51] <cmn32480> "he can't spell barcode scanner"
[03:07:10] <charon> so how come you still have a job?
[03:07:18] <cmn32480> I'm the boss
[03:07:20] <cmn32480> :-)
[03:07:23] <charon> lol
[03:07:31] <cmn32480> I report direct tothe owners
[03:07:46] <charon> and they can't spell it either
[03:07:51] <cmn32480> correct
[03:08:02] <cmn32480> and even if I can't spell it... I can fix them
[03:09:50] <charon> hey, i use a barcode scanner every day! i'm an expert
[03:09:59] <cmn32480> lol
[03:10:03] <cmn32480> now configure it
[03:10:31] <Fnord666> ~gday charon
[03:10:32] * exec fanatically mixes crusty sock full of sobriety with charon
[03:10:36] <Fnord666> ~gday cmn32480
[03:10:37] * exec illegitimately planks a spool of underwear for cmn32480
[03:10:40] <cmn32480> ~gday Fnord666
[03:10:41] * exec cromulently blows a raid 4 volume of lube at Fnord666
[03:10:45] <charon> saved by Fnord666
[03:10:53] <Fnord666> uh oh.
[03:10:57] <cmn32480> lol
[03:10:57] <charon> hey Fnord666, configure this barcode scanner for me?
[03:11:04] <Fnord666> ok
[03:11:12] <Fnord666> What brand?
[03:11:21] <charon> oh hell...
[03:11:29] <charon> umm... Bob's Finest?
[03:11:30] * cmn32480 passes the ball-peen hammer
[03:11:38] * Fnord666 takes it.
[03:11:56] * cmn32480 whispers "Symbol" at charon
[03:12:30] <charon> Symbol, that it!
[03:12:31] * Fnord666 snorts
[03:12:44] <Fnord666> I thought it might be for some reason.
[03:13:02] <Fnord666> IS it the LS4256?
[03:13:15] <cmn32480> no such thing
[03:13:22] <cmn32480> LS4278, perhaps
[03:13:28] <cmn32480> that is the Bluetooth model
[03:13:34] <charon> sheesh, it always is! that model is always going kablooie
[03:13:38] * Fnord666 whispers "shush."
[03:14:08] <Fnord666> Now if it's the LS2208 that's easy.
[03:14:50] * cmn32480 is suddenyl interested in Fnord666 in a professional capacity
[03:14:55] <charon> oops, i accidentally dropped it into this conveniently placed bucket of acid. sorry
[03:15:19] <Fnord666> Oh well. Sounds like a manufacturing defect to me.
[03:15:22] <cmn32480> is ok/// the LS2208 is a POS anyway
[03:15:25] <Fnord666> RMA that sucker.
[03:15:38] <cmn32480> long as you still got the serial number.. they'll fix it
[03:15:52] <cmn32480> even if it is in pieces in a ziploc baggie
[03:16:07] <Fnord666> But they're cheap!
[03:16:22] <cmn32480> which is why nobody put contracts on the LS2208
[03:17:01] <Fnord666> :-)
[03:17:06] <cmn32480> you actually work in that industry Fnord666?
[03:17:17] <charon> huh, that looks exactly like one of the scanners i use at work
[03:17:21] <cmn32480> or you know jsut enough to screw with me?
[03:17:47] <Fnord666> No. I'm just making most of it up as I go. Sorry to get your hopes up.
[03:17:54] <cmn32480> damnit
[03:17:58] <Fnord666> Sorry.
[03:18:04] <cmn32480> is ok
[03:18:11] <charon> but he was better than me at bluffing
[03:18:17] <cmn32480> I'm looking for a good wireless guy
[03:18:19] <Fnord666> I learn fast though!
[03:18:23] <cmn32480> he certainly was
[03:18:36] <cmn32480> I can't hire another beginner
[03:18:49] <cmn32480> took me 2 years to get the last one up to speed
[03:18:53] <Fnord666> Harder in person and without a browser in another window.
[03:19:24] <Fnord666> I've done a couple of projects but the scanners just acted as keyboards basically.
[03:19:35] <cmn32480> gotcah
[03:20:03] <cmn32480> if there is anyhtign that I can help with (in a professional capacity) let me know
[03:20:23] <Fnord666> Cool. Good to know. Thanks.
[03:20:53] <cmn32480> my employer does scanners, mobile computers, thermal printers, wireless, RFID, etc
[03:21:36] <Fnord666> I work with POS systems but on the transaction processing side. We don't normally talk to the POS terminals directly.
[03:22:17] <cmn32480> we generally work in the warehouse
[03:22:22] <Fnord666> I mostly work with encryption systems including PIN pads, network Host Security Modules, etc.
[03:22:54] <Fnord666> Anyone doing QR codes for inventory mgmt? Just curious.
[03:23:06] <cmn32480> I've run into a few
[03:23:10] <cmn32480> not maky
[03:23:13] <cmn32480> *many
[03:23:39] <charon> at my store level it's hand counted and barcode scans
[03:24:05] <Fnord666> Well doesn't that sounds like a ball of laughs. /s
[03:24:07] <cmn32480> charon - I've been in massive warehouses where that is also the case
[03:24:26] <Fnord666> Double ick.
[03:24:28] <charon> sounds like fun
[03:24:53] <cmn32480> but they usually they have people cycle count a specific bin while picking
[03:24:58] <charon> only once a year, but the two weeks leading up to inventory day are killers for a lot of people
[03:25:28] <cmn32480> inventory SUCKS
[03:25:58] <Fnord666> Good friend of mine is a small business owner and yeah, annual inventory looks like it sucks big time.
[03:26:03] <charon> my department is easy because we know all of our rental equipment and have hardly any merchandise
[03:26:30] <charon> but hardware, plumbing, building mtls. they have nightmares
[03:26:42] <cmn32480> when I was working for a rather large roofing supply distributer, we did physical inventory annually... and it was always multiple days and god awful
[03:27:05] <cmn32480> but I suppose when you have 150 branches, that is bound to happen
[03:27:50] * cmn32480 thinks charin might work in a large chain home improvement store...maybe we can get the Lowes down on the Depot
[03:28:02] <Fnord666> You always have to reset at some point and match up what you really have with what the computer says you have.
[03:28:38] * Fnord666 ponders the possibility that cmn32480 might be onto something.
[03:28:50] <charon> Fnord666: yeah. i try to do that every month or so in my dept so i don't get a nasty surprise on I day
[03:29:00] <charon> and yes, i work at a Home Depot
[03:29:01] <cmn32480> so you cycle count
[03:29:21] <charon> never knew that is what it's called, but yes
[03:29:33] <cmn32480> good standard practice for inventory management
[03:31:06] <charon> especially since my direct boss is famous for selling five different things as 5 of the same thing
[03:31:24] <Fnord666> You mean color matters?
[03:31:36] <cmn32480> nah
[03:31:40] <charon> in my part of the world, sandpaper grit matters
[03:31:42] <Fnord666> Hey, they were the same price. What's the issue?
[03:31:56] <Fnord666> :-)
[03:31:59] <cmn32480> he's got shrinkage! it was in the pool!
[03:32:18] * Fnord666 lols
[03:32:19] <charon> funny, they think swell is just as bad. but it's free stuff!
[03:32:48] <Fnord666> You mean 80 grit and 500 grit give different results?
[03:33:05] <charon> ... no, they are identical
[03:33:18] <charon> enjoy your next project
[03:34:00] <Fnord666> Remind me to never ask for advice at abc!
[03:34:24] <charon> this is a case of "ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer"
[03:34:35] * cmn32480 is sorry.. he was taking notes on sandpaper
[03:34:40] <charon> lol
[03:34:50] <Fnord666> Ask stupid questions win stupid prizes?
[03:34:52] <cmn32480> the pencil kept getting dull so ai stopped
[03:35:23] <charon> well played cmn32480
[03:35:32] * cmn32480 bows
[03:35:44] * Fnord666 tips his hat
[03:35:54] <cmn32480> remember... the 7 o'clock show is different fro the 10 o'clock show
[03:36:12] <Fnord666> And apparently you'll be here all week!
[03:36:24] <charon> i'll tip my waitress
[03:36:36] <cmn32480> this place is like The Hotel California... you can check out any time you like.. but you can neer leave
[03:36:52] <cmn32480> f**k the waitress... tip me
[03:37:22] <Fnord666> but not necessarily in that order.
[03:37:24] <charon> Laughing Boy in that third to win
[03:37:50] <cmn32480> yeah... that'd make her a hooker
[03:38:45] <Fnord666> true
[03:39:48] <cmn32480> and me her pimp
[03:40:00] <charon> tsk tsk
[03:40:00] * cmn32480 practices his pimp slap on exec
[03:40:17] <charon> i know it's hard out there for a pimp
[03:41:20] <cmn32480> welll.. pimpin' ain't easy
[03:42:40] <charon> tempted to !grab
[03:43:26] <cmn32480> you can always grab
[03:43:38] <cmn32480> just remember, each channel has it's own DB.
[03:43:52] <cmn32480> so the quote list in here is far smaller than the quote list in #soylent
[03:43:57] <cmn32480> !quote
[03:43:57] <Bender> quote <ID/search string>
[03:44:05] <cmn32480> !quote pimpin
[03:44:05] <Bender> No quotes found with the text 'pimpin'
[03:44:09] <charon> !quote charon
[03:44:09] <Bender> Quote 38 - <charon> i'll put mine in the hole
[03:44:14] <Bender> Also in quotes: 39
[03:44:15] <cmn32480> !quote janrinok
[03:44:15] <Bender> Quote 1 - <janrinok> xlefay: quick to the kill, that's my boy....
[03:44:19] <Bender> Also in quotes: 2, 5, 6, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 20, 21, 36
[03:44:31] <cmn32480> !quote 36
[03:44:31] <Bender> Quote 36 - <janrinok> ah, it's all in the noodles
[03:44:36] <Fnord666> !quote 39
[03:44:36] <Bender> Quote 39 - <charon> my foolish quote will last for eternity
[03:44:45] <charon> !quote cmn32480
[03:44:45] <Bender> Quote 19 - <cmn32480> !quote cmn32480
[03:44:49] <Bender> Also in quotes: 24, 25, 28, 30, 31, 34, 37
[03:45:01] <charon> !quote 24
[03:45:01] <Bender> Quote 24 - <exec> <cmn32480> the actual function of the site will not be impared at all, other than not being accessible from the outside
[03:45:18] <Fnord666> oh that's a good one!
[03:45:23] <charon> that sounded rational for a second
[03:45:45] <Fnord666> 100% up time, from a certain point of view.
[03:46:02] <Fnord666> The Ben Kenobi method of counting up time.
[03:46:23] <charon> lol
[03:47:31] <cmn32480> I think that was in relation to a discussion about a DDOS that Linode was experiencing
[03:47:51] <cmn32480> but I have been wrong many times... today
[03:48:05] <charon> we don't hold it against you
[03:48:48] <Fnord666> Says the person who wanted to immortalize your words a minute ago.
[03:49:12] <charon> well he wasn't wrong enough this time
[03:49:18] <Fnord666> oh, ok.
[03:49:29] <cmn32480> gimme a minute... I'll screw up again
[03:49:53] <Fnord666> Sometimes I'm a little fuzzy on the whole "level of wrongness" thing.
[03:50:08] <Fnord666> sometimes.
[03:50:10] <charon> given enough time, we will all say collossally stupid things
[03:50:53] <Fnord666> There's probably an "I Do" joke in there somewhere.
[03:51:08] <Fnord666> But don't quote me.
[03:51:13] * charon weeps
[03:51:43] <Fnord666> oh dear. I've broken him.
[03:51:50] <cmn32480> the proper "don't quote me" is "nograb
[03:51:51] <cmn32480> "
[03:52:07] <cmn32480> well somebody had to... now we can remake him in whatever mold we'd like
[03:52:14] <cmn32480> I suggest a level 13 vegan
[03:52:37] <charon> i love tofu-burgers with extra sprouts
[03:52:49] <charon> but i cannot pay with a 5 pound note
[03:53:17] <Fnord666> What's a poor vegan to do?
[03:54:05] <cmn32480> I got more than 5 pounds extra... I'll loan you 25
[03:54:15] <cmn32480> but once the fat goes on.. you are so NOT allowed to give it back
[03:54:32] <cmn32480> Fnord666 - throw coins
[03:54:34] <charon> i have enough of my own, thank you
[03:54:44] <cmn32480> like you do at bad strippers... throw quarters
[03:54:46] * Fnord666 throws coins
[03:55:15] <Fnord666> Hey how did you know that?
[03:55:42] <cmn32480> alrighty gents... time for me to go to bed
[03:55:52] <cmn32480> everybody have a good night
[03:55:53] <charon> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:55:54] * exec sardonically piles a ½ cup of sadness on cmn32480
[03:55:56] <Fnord666> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:55:57] <cmn32480> ~gngiht charon
[03:55:58] * exec proverbially deletes a stocking of mail tiers from cmn32480
[03:56:04] <cmn32480> ~gnight charon
[03:56:06] * exec diabolically runs the Installshield Wizard to set up a dong of coins for charon
[03:56:08] <cmn32480> ~gnight Fnord666
[03:56:10] * exec deliciously mixes a pint of boiled dog stuffed with rice with Fnord666
[03:56:24] <cmn32480> charon wins
[03:56:28] <charon> a dong. but coins.
[03:56:59] <Fnord666> and superglue
[03:57:44] <charon> hrm. the announcer in #irpg activated floodguard
[03:58:07] <charon> guess i'll have to tune that
[03:58:08] <Fnord666> Anyway, have a good evening cmn32480. Enjoy your stay at the home office.
[03:58:22] <charon> seeya tomorrow i'm sure
[03:58:28] <Fnord666> hmm. What is #irpg?
[03:58:44] <charon> apparently a channel where you do not talk
[03:59:11] <cmn32480> #irpg is idle rpg
[03:59:14] <cmn32480> you log in
[03:59:18] <cmn32480> and don't talk
[03:59:23] <charon> and the longer you don't talk, the more awesome you become
[03:59:26] <cmn32480> by being idle in the channel you level up
[03:59:32] <cmn32480> pretty much
[03:59:42] <charon> like progress quest, but less amusing
[03:59:44] <Fnord666> Sounds like something a Dad on a car vacation would come up with.
[04:00:01] <charon> it totally is
[04:00:05] <charon> <-- dad
[04:00:19] <cmn32480> I am currently a level 90 Horndog
[04:00:39] <Fnord666> :-)
[04:01:02] <cmn32480> but you can't just be IN the channel.. you have to create an account and log in
[04:01:30] <cmn32480> http://idlerpg.net
[04:01:33] <exec> └─ 13#G7 Idle RPG: Game Info
[04:01:34] <charon> oh really? i was not aware of that
[04:01:36] <Fnord666> thx
[04:01:37] <cmn32480> not ours, but the commands are the same
[04:02:19] <Fnord666> charon - So you got set up on the bouncer?
[04:02:52] <charon> yep, caught Deucalion in a weak moment and got him to make me an account
[04:03:16] <cmn32480> Fnord666 - it is a rather nice thing to have
[04:03:29] <charon> it's kind of a pain to change hexchat. took me a while to get it right
[04:03:38] <charon> possibly because i am dumb
[04:03:48] <cmn32480> there is a section in the wiki that explains it
[04:03:56] <cmn32480> if the explanation isn't good... rewritee it
[04:04:01] <charon> i was reading it. i thought the $ were literal
[04:04:08] <charon> drove me batty
[04:05:07] <charon> oh wait, other way around. i thought they weren't literal, but they are
[04:05:31] <Fnord666> I'll have to catch Deucalion at some point.
[04:06:02] <Fnord666> cmn32480 but then you need an account on the wiki....
[04:06:07] <charon> i am fairly sure he just made the account and told me the password. the rest was config on my end
[04:06:23] <cmn32480> correct
[04:06:31] <cmn32480> create one, and I'll approve it
[04:06:40] <Fnord666> Ah. He must have been overloaded the last time the topic came up.
[04:07:04] <cmn32480> catch him early in the day
[04:07:24] <cmn32480> I've also dumped him a message that you are looking for one... you might do the same adn drop him a pm
[04:07:24] <Fnord666> His day? What's his TZ?
[04:07:31] <cmn32480> UTC
[04:07:34] <Fnord666> Cool. Thanks.
[04:08:25] <Fnord666> I really like wikis. I personally use jspwiki on my laptop as my brain's offline storage.
[04:09:00] <cmn32480> ok I relally gotta go to bed this tiem
[04:09:02] <cmn32480> night
[04:09:11] <charon> gnight
[04:10:21] <Fnord666> gnight
[04:11:20] <charon> Fnord666: did you find out about the gray story you asked about?
[04:12:42] <Fnord666> yep. I saw that it was a dupe.
[04:16:21] <Fnord666> Seems like the bouncer would be a bit like cheating in #irpg
[04:17:36] <charon> i don't think it's even reasonable to play without such a thing
[04:17:55] <charon> times to level are days/weeks
[04:21:19] <charon> whoo, i levelled
[04:23:27] <Fnord666> saw that.
[04:23:35] <Fnord666> Are the classes arbitrary?
[04:24:08] <charon> you choose it yourself
[04:24:28] <charon> in the message you send to the announcerbot
[04:28:35] <Fnord666> of course there's no feedback...
[04:29:21] <charon> huh, it announced my existence in channel
[04:29:25] <charon> <NerdRPG> Welcome charon's new player Charon, the Glottal Stop! Next level in 0 days, 00:10:00.
[04:29:31] <Fnord666> hmmm
[04:29:38] <Fnord666> must have done it wrong then
[04:30:43] <charon> also sent a /msg back to me
[04:32:06] <Fnord666> /msg bot REGISTER Fnord666 password curmudgeon
[04:32:10] <Fnord666> was what I sent
[04:32:31] <charon> should probably instert the name of the bot
[04:32:40] <Fnord666> doh
[04:32:42] <charon> NerdRPG
[04:33:14] <Fnord666> there we go
[04:33:28] <charon> yay
[04:34:56] <Fnord666> and you leveled up
[04:35:21] <charon> muahahah, i will always be stronger
[04:35:47] <Fnord666> especially until I get set up on the bouncer
[04:36:58] <charon> it can be confusing. earlier tonight, i replied to a question you had posted 90 minutes before thinking it was current
[04:37:42] <Fnord666> :-)
[04:40:42] <charon> i know i'm going to get shelled for paring down OO_'s sub about kent state audio guy
[04:44:17] <Fnord666> What can you do.
[04:44:19] <Fnord666> ?
[04:44:50] <charon> nothing. do the job and be able to justify why you did it that way
[04:45:10] <Fnord666> He's certainly seen what he has submitted and what has been the result so he knows what we look for.
[04:48:01] * charon thickens his skin.
[04:49:14] <Fnord666> Don't forget to don a flame retardant suit.
[04:49:19] <charon> heheh
[04:49:40] <charon> if you don't mind, don't second that one. i'd like to get janrinok's opinion when he get on
[04:52:17] <Fnord666> Not a problem.
[04:52:38] <Fnord666> I don't blame you.
[04:53:31] <charon> getting experience one hard decision at a time
[04:54:28] <Fnord666> yup. Experience is what you get just after you need it.
[04:54:46] <charon> good way to look at it
[04:54:55] <Fnord666> But there's no real other way to get it.
[04:56:12] <Fnord666> Did you find a link to the 2010 Plain Dealer article?
[04:56:54] <Fnord666> There's a lot quoted from it.
[04:56:59] <charon> yeah, it's the link in middle of the first section
[04:57:19] <charon> i was thinking about moving it, but it really is perfectly placed
[04:57:33] <charon> or maybe a [linked above]
[04:58:58] <Fnord666> I think I missed that it was a link because it lists the whole headline right in the middle of the sentence.
[04:59:43] <charon> yeah. it's a direct quote from link #1
[05:00:31] <Fnord666> Can't say that I like the segment about “Guard”… “All right, prepare to fire!”… “Get down!”… and finally “Guard!”…is followed by the fusillade of lethal bullets.
[05:01:00] <Fnord666> from the counterpunch article over the
[05:01:01] <Fnord666> "Guard!" says a male voice on the recording, which two forensic audio experts enhanced and evaluated at the request of The Plain Dealer. Several seconds pass. Then, "All right, prepare to fire!"
[05:01:01] <Fnord666> "Get down!" someone shouts urgently, presumably in the crowd. Finally, "Guard! . . . " followed two seconds later by a long, booming volley of gunshots. The entire spoken sequence lasts 17 seconds.
[05:01:47] <charon> i was on the fence about it myself. like the note i left, it's more about the event than the man. supposedly the article is about the man
[05:04:11] <Fnord666> is there a way to see editor's notes on a story in the story queue without actually editing the story?
[05:04:32] <charon> hover over or click the three asterisks
[05:04:53] <Fnord666> I was going to ask what those meant next. :-)
[05:04:59] <charon> hah
[05:05:56] <Fnord666> Nicely placed split for the extended copy as well.
[05:06:23] <charon> it wrote itself!
[05:06:48] <Fnord666> Gotta like it when that happens
[05:07:38] <charon> does this link work? http://australia.air1.info
[05:08:20] <Fnord666> Not right now. Connection refused.
[05:08:35] <charon> same here
[05:09:01] <Fnord666> The site as a whole, not just the page, is barfing out right now
[05:09:32] <charon> now that i know what it is, i can find a suitable replacement link
[05:10:03] <Fnord666> There's a copy in the wayback machine.
[05:10:06] <Fnord666> https://web.archive.org
[05:10:09] <exec> └─ 13AdBlue by Air1 | Suppliers, MSDS and Cost of AdBlue in Australia - What is AdBlue
[05:10:33] <charon> hrm, i'm not sure i want to put a wayback machine aided link into the story
[05:11:09] <Fnord666> understood. Just let's you see what you're looking for.
[05:11:17] <charon> aye
[05:11:18] <Fnord666> Is there a policy on that?
[05:11:20] <charon> thank you
[05:11:29] <charon> i have never heard of one
[05:11:47] <charon> but it seems we would favor primary sources if possible
[05:12:39] <Fnord666> That makes sense unless you're doing a story (not this one) about how someone has done a whitewash on their site/persona/etc.
[05:13:07] <charon> yeah. now that would be an interesting story
[05:14:03] <Fnord666> Pretty much any story about defaced web sites, for example, often ends up referring back to a screenshot or archive pic
[05:14:45] <Fnord666> I would actually prefer archive.org in that case over someone's unconfirmed screenshot that they have made available on their own site afterwards.
[05:14:59] <charon> i think i trust wayback more than some random schmo
[05:15:31] <Fnord666> Agreed. That is what I was trying to say.
[05:15:38] <charon> yep yep
[05:15:51] * charon is a random schmo
[05:16:00] <Fnord666> lol
[05:16:48] <Fnord666> well it's that time for me. I'm off to bed.
[05:16:53] <Fnord666> HAve a good evening.
[05:17:05] <charon> thank you. sleep well
[05:17:45] <Fnord666> You too. Talk to you tomorrow.
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[08:42:36] <charon> ~tell janrinok i have some reservations about the Audio Expert story. Please go over it thoroughly to make sure i'm doing it right. see also backscroll where fnord and i discussed it. Thanks and have a good day
[08:43:43] <charon> ~tell janrinok also, i have a bouncer account now, so i am actually not here now
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[12:24:47] <cmn32480> #fite Hephaestus
[12:24:47] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[12:24:58] <MrPlow> #fite Hephaestus falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
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[15:06:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Hephaestus
[15:06:47] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[15:06:53] <MrPlow> #fite Hephaestus falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[15:09:08] <janrinok> I'll come on here, it is quieter
[15:10:13] <janrinok> you are in exceeding good form today
[15:10:44] <cmn32480> oh good
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[17:46:11] <janrinok> ~gday Fnord666
[17:46:13] * exec clumsily pits an assload of $beverage against Fnord666
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[18:57:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite Hephaestus
[18:57:19] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[18:57:26] <MrPlow> #fite Hephaestus falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[18:57:59] <janrinok> TMB is going for the maximum number of simultaneous fites!
[18:58:21] <cmn32480> 1?
[18:58:32] <cmn32480> MrPLow is not multithreaded when it comes to fiteing
[18:58:37] * TheMightyBuzzard waves at janrinok
[18:58:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure he is, i had to put a var in to limit it to one at a time.
[18:58:56] <cmn32480> I think he is trying to preempt chromas as the top cheater
[18:58:56] * janrinok \o/
[18:59:17] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480
[18:59:18] * exec proverbially pours a pipe of rations for cmn32480
[18:59:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'm just catching up to him so he don't get cocky
[18:59:25] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[18:59:26] * exec hurriedly rubs a fart hole of walla walla sweet onions on janrinok
[19:00:02] * chromas pecks
[19:00:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll have me some lunch n a shower now, though not at the same time
[19:00:27] <janrinok> wet sammiches are not nice
[19:00:43] <cmn32480> #sammich
[19:00:43] * MrPlow whips up a peanut butter and gerbil sammich for cmn32480
[19:01:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab janrinok
[19:01:02] <Bender> Added quote 40
[19:01:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> that one should be fun outa context
[19:01:31] <cmn32480> !~grab TheMightyBuzzard
[19:01:35] <cmn32480> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[19:01:35] <Bender> Added quote 41
[19:01:42] <cmn32480> THAT one shold be fun out of context
[19:03:34] <chromas> speaking of wet sammiches, https://www.youtube.com
[19:03:35] <exec> └─ 13Kramer's Shower Salad - YouTube
[19:04:03] <janrinok> I'm just watching a band playing thunderstruck on xylophones!
[19:04:05] <cmn32480> #YT you don't win friends with salad
[19:04:11] <cmn32480> #yt you don't win friends with salad
[19:04:12] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[19:23:17] <paulej72> !moo
[19:37:37] <cmn32480> I will not be cowed by that statement!
[19:41:52] <janrinok> don't milk it for all you can get
[19:43:49] <cmn32480> udderly rediculous
[19:44:19] <cmn32480> and frankly, how dairy you think that!
[19:45:22] <janrinok> are you getting horny over that?
[19:45:30] <janrinok> well, hoof it!
[19:45:47] <cmn32480> what's yer beef?
[19:45:57] <janrinok> what a load of tripe
[19:46:39] <cmn32480> What do you call a cow with no legs?
[19:46:46] <janrinok> go on
[19:46:50] <cmn32480> ground beef
[19:47:07] <janrinok> what a load of bull
[19:47:43] <janrinok> you should be knighted - Arise Sir Loin
[19:47:54] <cmn32480> you filet me
[19:48:27] <chromas> cud it out, guys
[19:48:52] <janrinok> I herd you the first time
[19:57:21] <janrinok> Its time I went back into my stable (or shippon - now there is a word for you to research)
[19:57:29] <janrinok> ~gnight cmn32480
[19:57:30] * exec sardonically requisitions an assload of cowbell for cmn32480
[20:20:12] <cmn32480> ~gnight janrinok
[20:20:13] * exec single-handedly stuffs an undersized chest of companionship into janrinok
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[20:22:34] <cmn32480> charon Fnord666 - looks like exec is running again.
[20:22:40] <cmn32480> not sure if it'll last
[20:22:45] <cmn32480> but it worked at least once
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