#editorial | Logs for 2016-11-29

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[00:05:24] <Fnord666> n1_ Would you take a look at what I did please?
[00:06:10] <Fnord666> How is GreatOutdoors doing this Monday?
[00:11:53] <n1_> Fnord666, it look good, i have 2nd ed the story.
[00:12:38] <Fnord666> Thank you.
[00:16:24] <GreatOutdoors> I am good overall, just got hom from the dentist and half my face is numb... should make it interesting to try to eat dinner now.
[00:19:33] <Fnord666> Hopefully you're not having soup.
[00:19:59] <GreatOutdoors> Nope.. Brats.
[00:20:47] <Fnord666> Tasty
[00:22:52] <GreatOutdoors> Hope so. These are new ones..
[00:23:23] <n1_> what is this 'brats'?
[00:24:23] <GreatOutdoors> Bratwurst. Similar to polish sausage.
[00:24:24] <Fnord666> presumably bratwurst.
[00:24:26] <Fnord666> https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:24:28] <exec> └─ 13Bratwurst - Wikipedia
[00:25:15] <n1_> that was my first thought, but never heard it shortened like that
[00:25:16] <Fnord666> Often served with sauerkraut and/or potato salad.
[00:26:00] <n1_> "Bratwurst, often shortened to "brat" in American English"
[00:26:06] <n1_> damn 'mericans
[00:26:11] <Fnord666> yup
[00:26:11] <GreatOutdoors> lol
[00:26:24] <Fnord666> GreatOutdoors do you prepare yours in beer?
[00:26:31] <GreatOutdoors> nah, just grill em
[00:27:38] * n1_ is going to be cooking steak shortly
[00:28:25] <Fnord666> That sounds delicious too. Made some pad thai earlier for dinner
[00:28:48] <GreatOutdoors> Brats was a bad idea... just bit my cheek... didnt feeel it, but I taste the blood...
[00:29:09] <GreatOutdoors> Thats gonna hurt tomorrow..
[00:29:16] <n1_> :(
[00:30:13] <Fnord666> ouch
[00:30:37] <GreatOutdoors> Note to self...no brats after dental work
[00:31:04] <n1_> Fnord666, thai food is not my thing, and it really pains me to admit that, some of it is really good though
[00:33:07] <Fnord666> The whole family seems to like it so it goes into the rotation from time to time.
[00:33:28] <n1_> there's plenty to enjoy, but the typical mix of flavours in the curries and stir-fry dishes are not my favourite
[00:34:39] <Fnord666> It definitely has its own flavor "profile" and the coconut milk puts some people off as well.
[00:35:36] <n1_> and being british or whatever, i live up to the stereotype and really enjoy a good curry, which is why it pains me to admit i'm not a huge fan of the thai variants
[00:36:37] <Fnord666> So what classifies as a "good curry"?
[00:36:52] <Fnord666> What would be your most favorite if you had to pick one?
[00:37:17] <Fnord666> most favorite? :-(
[00:37:30] <Fnord666> like saying more better.
[00:42:09] <n1_> i don't really have a favourite, but the 'tikka' spices are probably my most familiar base
[00:42:43] <n1_> https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:42:45] <exec> └─ 13Tandoori masala - Wikipedia
[00:46:11] <Fnord666> I do like chicken tikka masala
[00:46:34] <n1_> murgh masala is what i usually look out for
[00:46:40] <n1_> but its not that common
[00:46:56] <Fnord666> I have not heard of that one.
[00:47:35] <n1_> its similar to tikka masala but less creamy, more spicy and has minced/ground lamb in it as well as chunks of chicken
[00:47:47] <n1_> and usually comes with a hard boiled egg in it
[00:48:31] <Fnord666> That sounds delicious.
[00:53:14] <n1_> considering i didnt cook this steak too good, it's actually pretty good
[00:56:38] <Fnord666> enjoy!
[01:06:45] <n1_> steak demolished
[01:07:01] <n1_> looks like it will be steak for breakfast too
[01:23:51] Fnord666 is now known as Fnord666_away
[01:28:08] <GreatOutdoors> lol... TMB leaves the best comments..
[01:28:49] <GreatOutdoors> On the millenium Tower article; Millennials are always slacking off on the job. No reason their tower should be any different.
[01:36:30] <n1_> janrinok did very well there also
[01:38:56] <GreatOutdoors> yep
[02:09:26] <cmn32480> ~gday knuckleheads
[02:09:27] * exec derisively merges a spool of baconated grapefruit with knuckleheads
[02:10:46] * n1_ beers cmn32480
[02:11:01] <cmn32480> cmn32480 has been beering cmn32480
[02:11:27] <n1_> good beer?
[02:11:45] <cmn32480> nope
[02:11:54] <cmn32480> but it was cold, sudsy, wet and amber
[02:12:07] <cmn32480> and super cold...
[02:12:21] <cmn32480> Miller Lite isn't good beer
[02:12:29] <n1_> you're damn right it's not
[02:12:48] <cmn32480> but dear God... after hours on the road... it tasted WONDERFUL
[02:13:25] <n1_> yeah, for sure
[02:13:37] <n1_> the beer i have isn't good either to be honest, it's the cheapest local beer
[02:13:46] <n1_> but it's not bad
[02:13:48] <chromas> Do diet beers use sucralose?
[02:14:11] <n1_> i don't actually understand what the 'lite' beer is supposed to be
[02:14:11] <cmn32480> yes
[02:14:25] <cmn32480> different from heavy beer
[02:15:59] <n1_> i dont usually weigh my beer
[02:16:43] <cmn32480> i do
[02:16:51] <cmn32480> 12oz at a time
[02:17:30] <n1_> http://www.ratebeer.com
[02:17:32] <exec> └─ 13FNC Nortea
[02:27:35] <Fnord666_away> /nick Fnord666
[02:27:45] <cmn32480> no space
[02:28:02] <Fnord666_away> doh
[02:28:08] Fnord666_away is now known as Fnord666
[02:28:18] <Fnord666> how'd that get there?
[02:28:52] * cmn32480 shurgs
[02:29:29] <Fnord666> How's cmn32480 this eve?
[02:29:45] <cmn32480> talking to his wife
[02:30:48] <cmn32480> afk
[02:51:01] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:56:25] <Fnord666> good evening Bytram
[03:03:43] <Bytram> Fnord666: Oh, Hi!
[03:03:52] * Bytram was busy reading backscrool
[03:04:02] <Bytram> howz thingz?
[03:04:12] <Fnord666> Good. Yourself?
[03:04:13] <cmn32480> #smake bytram for keeping up to date
[03:04:13] * MrPlow smakes bytram for keeping up to date upside the head with a paternity suit
[03:04:50] <Bytram> a paternity suit often comes after donning a birthday suit
[03:05:01] <Bytram> a bit tired, but well, thanks.
[03:05:40] <Bytram> just realized I was, effectively, dealing with jet lag after working the opening shift on black friday... was at work at 11PM thanksgiving night
[03:07:14] <Fnord666> That's a bit rough on anyone
[03:07:50] <Fnord666> You were on Friday morning too, right?
[03:08:04] <Bytram> well, complaining about it is akin to winning the division championship and then complaining that you have to play *another* game!?!!
[03:08:37] <Bytram> had a *very* productive day and am glad I volunteered.
[03:08:51] <Fnord666> :-)
[03:08:55] <Bytram> also, since I was paid time and a half for the whole shift...
[03:09:21] <Bytram> and was paid an additional 8 hours holiday pay for working on black friday on top of it...
[03:09:33] <Bytram> that worked out to nearly 24 hours' pay for one day.
[03:09:35] <Bytram> =)
[03:09:47] * Bytram didn't leave work until 4:30 pm on friday
[03:16:47] <cmn32480> woof
[03:16:51] <cmn32480> that blows
[03:16:53] <Bytram> meow
[03:17:14] <Bytram> nah, of my own choosing... last year I lasted until 6:30pm
[03:17:55] * cmn32480 was at work this morning at 6... worked 'till 2pm, then drove 5 hours to the hotel for the job tomorrow
[03:18:04] <Bytram> woof
[03:18:09] <cmn32480> meow
[03:18:09] <Bytram> wait...
[03:18:15] <Bytram> *WOOF* !!!
[03:18:22] <cmn32480> *MEOW*!!!!
[03:18:32] <Bytram> thas a LONG day
[03:18:56] <cmn32480> yeah
[03:19:04] <cmn32480> I'm hoping the FNG hand;ed the story queue
[03:19:25] <Bytram> I popped in a few times to keep an eye on things...
[03:19:38] <cmn32480> they've been doing well
[03:19:38] <Bytram> talked to a couple of 'em and offered some guidance
[03:19:45] * Bytram is much impressed
[03:20:12] * cmn32480 is happy that we 4 aren't killing ourselves to kepe the site running
[03:20:16] <Bytram> trying to remember, I think it was ch*ron who got a not-so-friendly greeting from OO
[03:20:34] <Bytram> https://www.cnet.com
[03:20:38] <exec> └─ 13Brady Bunch's Florence Henderson dies aged 82 - CNET
[03:20:43] <cmn32480> wish I had a linky
[03:20:49] <Bytram> towhat
[03:20:58] <Bytram> to the story Ijust mentioned?
[03:21:03] <cmn32480> the not so friendly grereting
[03:21:23] <Bytram> well, Imean that Oo took issue with an editorial decision that ch*ron made...
[03:21:31] <Bytram> I think I can find it... hold on
[03:21:40] <cmn32480> the zumwalt story?
[03:22:07] <Bytram> not sure... looking
[03:22:20] <cmn32480> yep
[03:22:22] <cmn32480> found it
[03:22:38] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[03:22:41] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | More Teething Pains for USS Zumwalt
[03:23:06] <Bytram> yep, that's the one
[03:24:20] <Bytram> I was quite impressed... not only on how ch*ron held his own in his reply (firm but not obnoxious), but also
[03:24:47] <Bytram> with how Tak*on and JR stepped in to support him
[03:24:57] <cmn32480> there were a couple AC's that that poked OO too
[03:25:03] <Bytram> yep
[03:25:24] <cmn32480> my reply woudl have bene somethign along the lines of "Get bent, fucktard"
[03:25:39] <Bytram> we should start a tradition that, on April 1, everyone post anonymously and sign their comments as being from OO
[03:26:37] <cmn32480> lol
[03:26:41] <cmn32480> that'd be hilarious
[03:26:46] <cmn32480> and probably drive him away
[03:26:56] <cmn32480> so, kind of a double edged, sword
[03:27:47] <Bytram> yeah, he does lean quite a ways off one end of the political spectrum, and has a polarizing view/take/presentation on things (and is a bit thin-skinned), but he does submit quite a bit of stuff that does bring about discussion.
[03:28:14] <cmn32480> bytram s/a bit/exceptionally/
[03:28:15] <exec> <cmn32480> <bytram> yeah, he does lean quite a ways off one end of the political spectrum, and has a polarizing view/take/presentation on things (and is exceptionally thin-skinned), but he does submit quite a bit of stuff that does bring about discussion.
[03:28:53] <Bytram> wonder what would happen if I posted one of his submissions as coming from an AC
[03:29:06] <cmn32480> he'd shit the bed
[03:29:21] <Bytram> If you want to post anonymnously, that's what you'll get. If you want with attribution, then post with a nick.
[03:29:42] <Bytram> THAT would cause a comment storm of epic proportions
[03:29:58] <Bytram> i wouldn't do it, of course, but I can entertain such hypotheses
[03:30:39] <cmn32480> if we do it for him, we ahve to do it for all
[03:31:07] <Bytram> do what, allow posting with a pseudo anonymous nick?
[03:31:38] <Bytram> his stories are submitted by "Anonymous Coward", so that is what we'd give as attribution.
[03:31:59] <cmn32480> nah
[03:32:08] <cmn32480> you can put anythign in the submission box...
[03:32:36] <Bytram> hmmm
[03:33:10] <Bytram> i don't recall playing around with all the permutations on that one... not sure what all the parameters are and how they get presented to us eds.
[03:34:38] <cmn32480> if you post as AC, you can fill in the byline box with anythign you want.
[03:34:40] * Bytram is currently trying things on dev
[03:34:51] <cmn32480> from A. Applecart to ZZZZZues
[03:36:15] <Bytram> testing
[03:36:36] <cmn32480> 1
[03:36:36] <cmn32480> 2
[03:36:36] <cmn32480> 3
[03:38:43] <Bytram> 4
[03:38:43] <Bytram> 5
[03:38:43] <Bytram> 6
[03:38:51] <cmn32480> 7
[03:38:51] <cmn32480> 8
[03:38:51] <cmn32480> 9
[03:38:57] <Bytram> 0
[03:38:58] <Bytram> A
[03:38:58] <Bytram> B
[03:39:01] <cmn32480> where's ciri when you need her?
[03:39:42] <cmn32480> oooo
[03:39:47] <cmn32480> I got a Touche
[03:39:48] <Bytram> hidden --
[03:39:53] <Bytram> touchy?
[03:40:07] <Bytram> linky
[03:40:09] -!- charon [charon!~charon@Soylent/Staff/Editor/charon] has joined #editorial
[03:40:09] -!- mode/#editorial [+v charon] by Hephaestus
[03:40:17] <Bytram> ~gday charon
[03:40:18] * exec half-heartedly vomits a purse of gold coins on charon
[03:40:23] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[03:40:25] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Fidel Castro Dies at 90
[03:40:46] <charon> ~gday #editorial
[03:40:48] * exec cromulently drops a wine flute of string cheese on #editorial
[03:41:05] <cmn32480> ~gday charon
[03:41:06] * exec single-handedly internalizes an assload of shame in charon
[03:41:14] * Bytram doesnot like wimpy string cheese -- wants something more substantial... like rope cheese
[03:41:20] <charon> gold coins and shame? i can live with that
[03:41:27] <Bytram> for shame!
[03:41:33] <Bytram> ;)
[03:41:45] * cmn32480 steals charons gold coins and finds out they are chocolate
[03:42:02] <cmn32480> ~gday-add >beverage chocolate coins
[03:42:02] <Bytram> Mmmmm chocolate
[03:42:12] <cmn32480> ~gday-add <beverage chocolate coins
[03:42:18] <cmn32480> ~gdayadd >beverage chocolate coins
[03:42:32] <cmn32480> ~gday-add beverage chocolate coins
[03:42:40] <cmn32480> #smake exec
[03:42:40] * MrPlow smakes exec upside the head with a 400TB/s DDoS
[03:42:45] <charon> since when is that a beverage?
[03:43:43] <Bytram> instead beverage -- just add water
[03:43:56] <Bytram> s/^i.*d/instant/
[03:43:58] <exec> <Bytram> instant water
[03:44:06] <Bytram> lol
[03:44:27] <cmn32480> ~gday >beverage chocolate coins
[03:44:28] <exec> added to beverages
[03:44:37] <cmn32480> bastard
[03:44:57] <Bytram> ~gday >beverage water
[03:44:58] <exec> added to beverages
[03:45:03] <Bytram> ~gday >beverage iced tea
[03:45:04] <exec> added to beverages
[03:45:06] <Bytram> ~gday >beverage tea
[03:45:06] <charon> 1 2 3 4! 4 tries! ah ah ah ah!
[03:45:10] <exec> error: beverage already exists
[03:45:19] <Bytram> ~gday >beverage $beverage
[03:45:21] <exec> error: beverage already exists
[03:45:36] <Bytram> ~gday >beverage beaver-age
[03:45:37] <exec> added to beverages
[03:45:47] <Bytram> ~gday >
[03:45:49] * exec diarrhetically kipes a slice of windows vista from >
[03:46:10] <Bytram> ~gday >bacon bacon
[03:46:11] * exec metrosexually sets a finger of tama lama ding dongs by >bacon
[03:46:21] <Bytram> ~gday
[03:47:38] <charon> ~gday >verb aerosolizes
[03:47:40] * exec crutchyly requisitions a set of bacon-flavored candy canes for >verb
[03:48:03] <charon> wretched bot
[03:48:04] <Bytram> hmm
[03:48:29] <Bytram> ~gday One Two Three Four Five ix Seven Eight Ten Eleventee
[03:48:31] * exec emphatically cyberbullies a test tube of lips & assholes at One
[03:48:43] <Bytram> ~gday "One Two Three Four Five ix Seven Eight Ten Eleventeen"
[03:48:45] * exec irresponsibly refactors a spool of NURBS for "One
[03:49:28] <Bytram> ~gday "One&nbsp;Two&nbsp;Three&nbsp;Four&nbsp;Five&nbsp;Six&nbsp;Seven&nbsp;Eight&nbsp;Ten&nbsp;Eleventeen"
[03:49:30] * exec cohesively penetrates a bucket of whoopass with "One&nbsp;Two&nbsp;Three&nbsp;Four&nbsp;Five&nbsp;Six&nbsp;Seven&nbsp;Eight&nbsp;Ten&nbsp;Eleventeen"
[03:49:47] <Bytram> ~gday "One\tTwo&nbsp;Three&nbsp;Four&nbsp;Five&nbsp;Six&nbsp;Seven&nbsp;Eight&nbsp;Ten&nbsp;Eleventeen"
[03:49:48] * exec diabolically deletes a fart hole of g'day juice from "One\tTwo&nbsp;Three&nbsp;Four&nbsp;Five&nbsp;Six&nbsp;Seven&nbsp;Eight&nbsp;Ten&nbsp;Eleventeen"
[03:50:00] <Bytram> ~gday ""
[03:50:02] * exec readily flings a pair of the chronic at ""
[03:50:05] <Bytram> ~gday ''
[03:50:07] * exec diabolically gives a raid 0 volume of bluehost to ''
[03:50:11] <Bytram> ~gday .
[03:50:13] * exec accidentally kipes an NTFS volume of terr'ists from .
[03:50:17] <Bytram> ~gday
[03:51:19] <Bytram> break time... biab
[03:51:37] <charon> oh, so he craps up the channel and then runs away
[03:51:48] <cmn32480> he's taking lessons from chromas
[03:51:49] <charon> THANKS Bytram!
[03:52:03] <Bytram> np
[03:52:14] <Bytram> ;)
[03:52:15] <charon> i was a bit worried this morning when that was happening and no ops were around
[03:52:32] <charon> then chromas told me it was him
[03:52:38] <cmn32480> yeah
[03:52:51] <cmn32480> chromas sure is good at shitting up the channel
[03:52:55] <charon> lol
[03:53:02] <cmn32480> and it don't help that you don't know who Khyber was
[03:53:13] <chromas> /invite ciri
[03:53:17] <Bytram> ~seen Khyber
[03:53:18] <exec> Bytram, Khyber not seen in #editorial
[03:53:25] <Bytram> ~last Khyber
[03:53:26] <exec> 03Ops: random, first, last, all, count, source. Parameters: message, nick, channel (regex); since, until (date-/time range); limit (maximum messages to return; default is 1, unless op=all); type [message (plain+action; default), plain, action, nick, mode, join, part, quit, kick, kill, topic]; out [json, php, tab, irc, message, html]; debug (show the query and whatever else)
[03:53:26] <exec>  http://chromas.0x.no
[03:53:36] <cmn32480> ~last nick=Khyber
[03:53:39] <exec> 03[nothing found]
[03:53:42] <charon> i looked up the logs from the first IRC days, seems he was a handful
[03:53:51] <cmn32480> he was something else
[03:53:54] <Bytram> that is a nice way to put it.
[03:54:01] <Bytram> ok, really need a break. biab
[03:56:46] <charon> on the road again, cmn32480?
[03:56:56] <cmn32480> yep
[03:57:03] <cmn32480> Lynchburg, VA this week
[03:57:08] <cmn32480> at least I got to drive
[03:57:19] <charon> you drive your own car or rent?
[03:57:28] <cmn32480> mine
[03:57:38] <charon> comped for it at least?
[03:57:42] <cmn32480> of course
[03:57:57] * n1_ remembers those days
[03:58:44] <cmn32480> this one is far enough that it makes it worth it
[03:59:06] <n1_> when i was paid to use my own car, it was decent money and covered my general use
[03:59:13] <cmn32480> yep uep
[03:59:18] <n1_> when i had a company car, i had to pay the difference...
[03:59:19] <cmn32480> this time of year it covers Christmas
[03:59:44] <charon> not bad
[04:00:13] <n1_> lots of miles covered too i bet
[04:00:23] <cmn32480> 2 trips to Lynchburg (this week and next week)
[04:00:41] <cmn32480> and maybe a trip to Greenville, SC that might get tacked on to one of them
[04:04:25] <charon> wow, i got a troll mod. i feel i have passed a milestone
[04:04:44] <cmn32480> The zumwalt story?
[04:05:13] <charon> no, the UNIX commits as a video story
[04:05:22] <cmn32480> oh
[04:05:36] <cmn32480> I found the Zumwalt complaints rather funny
[04:06:08] <charon> same. i was getting defensive for a bit, but i figured i made one calm explanation and then dropped it
[04:06:23] <cmn32480> you handled it rather well
[04:06:31] <charon> thank you.
[04:06:48] <charon> and then janrinok dropped in to take my corner, for which i am ever grateful
[04:07:04] <cmn32480> yeah
[04:07:10] <cmn32480> buncha AC's too
[04:07:50] <cmn32480> we told you this woudl happen w/ him
[04:08:30] <charon> yeap
[04:08:47] <charon> and i still seek out his stories to edit. i must be a masochist
[04:09:09] <cmn32480> it sin't a woory
[04:09:34] <cmn32480> he thinks he's perfect and can't stand being told people disagree
[04:09:39] <cmn32480> has somethign of a thin skin
[04:10:12] * charon is shocked, shocked!
[04:10:48] * cmn32480 contains charons surprise in a thimble
[04:10:56] <charon> lol
[04:12:02] <charon> this guy jasassin is starting to tick me off too. only way to respond to his trolling is to ignore it
[04:12:12] <cmn32480> correct
[04:12:30] <cmn32480> he pops in and out of IRC periodically
[04:12:38] <n1_> if anyone wants to check out the 'following orders' story for a 3rd look, it would be appreciated
[04:12:50] <n1_> its quite the read though
[04:12:54] <cmn32480> I'll poke it
[04:13:26] <cmn32480> jebus...
[04:13:29] <cmn32480> you weren't kidding
[04:14:53] <n1_> charon, with trolls it's always best to pick your battles in the comments, for the greater good
[04:15:55] <charon> yeah. i spent time at my computer thinking of responses, but i was able to stop myself from actually writing anything more
[04:17:27] <n1_> your comment on changing the link was ideal
[04:18:08] <cmn32480> n1_ - looks good
[04:18:52] <n1_> thanks cmn32480
[04:18:59] <cmn32480> np
[04:19:01] <charon> that's an excellent piece of writing
[04:19:19] <charon> i've noticed that poster before making comments. s/he is good
[04:19:31] <n1_> agreed
[04:20:26] <n1_> i don't recall comments but i tip my hat to the person who wrote that, really impressive
[04:21:05] <charon> it's rare that i read a comment and then look back up for who wrote it
[04:21:16] <charon> but i have several times for this person
[04:21:25] * cmn32480 knowns that his commetns do that to charon
[04:21:30] <charon> lol
[04:21:56] <charon> "wow, this guy couldn't spell his way out of a paper bag"
[04:21:57] <Bytram> back
[04:22:10] <cmn32480> those are mine!
[04:22:16] <Bytram> which comment(s) are you talking about?
[04:22:40] * Bytram intones: abra-cadabra
[04:22:40] <cmn32480> all of temh
[04:22:49] * Bytram notes he is still in a paper bag
[04:23:39] * cmn32480 hands bytram 2 hands and a flashlight
[04:24:01] * Bytram lights up an oxy torch for moah powah
[04:24:20] * charon covers his eyes
[04:24:53] * cmn32480 covers his ears
[04:25:24] * Bytram uncovers charred flesh... oops -- too much powah
[04:25:55] <exec> /me covers his mouth
[04:26:25] * Bytram is not home alone
[04:27:29] * cmn32480 passes bytram the SN Box-o-Magnums and wonders why he is farting around on IRC
[04:27:31] <Bytram> well, actually he is
[04:29:10] * cmn32480 tucks the Box-o-Magnums back in his suitcase
[04:29:37] <Bytram> afk brb
[04:32:22] * cmn32480 thinks it is bed time
[04:33:37] * Bytram just read: http://spectrum.ieee.org
[04:33:39] <exec> └─ 13404 Page Not Found - IEEE Spectrum
[04:33:43] <Bytram> lol
[04:36:04] <charon> by chance are there legal issues with linking to wikileaks?
[04:36:13] <cmn32480> nope
[04:36:35] <charon> ok, going to add one to that story about the new cables
[04:36:38] <Bytram> well... not for *us*, but there are some people for whom it is prohibited
[04:36:49] <charon> uh, so should i not?
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[04:37:20] <Bytram> IIUC, anyone with a secret clearance or above is forbade from reading it (under the risk of compromising a "clean" system)
[04:37:36] <Bytram> so, may be a good idea to include a disclaimer at the top
[04:38:14] <Bytram> [Note: this story pertains to material appearing in WikiLeaks -- those who have security clearances may wish to stop reading this article at this point.]
[04:38:41] <cmn32480> Wikileaks is in the freaking title... if they can't figure it out... they shoudl have their clearances revoked
[04:39:17] <Bytram> given how some people fail to even read the fine *summary*...
[04:39:53] <cmn32480> it is in the HEADLINE
[04:40:06] * Bytram stops yanking at the chain
[04:40:29] <cmn32480> ~finger bytram
[04:40:35] <Bytram> ~blame
[04:40:36] * exec points at Bytram
[04:40:41] * cmn32480 makes a note to make that commadn work
[04:40:41] <Bytram> hth
[04:40:45] <charon> lol
[04:40:50] <charon> even exec knows
[04:40:50] <Bytram> ROFL!
[04:41:04] <Bytram> (You must be new here... ;)
[04:41:28] <charon> ~blame
[04:41:29] <cmn32480> gentlemen... I'm going to bed
[04:41:29] * exec points at Bytram
[04:41:33] <charon> aha
[04:41:38] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[04:41:40] * exec diabolically irritates a caravan of kryptonite watermelon with cmn32480
[04:41:45] <charon> ~gnight cmn32480
[04:41:48] * exec whole-heartedly spews a udp packet of wiffle balls on cmn32480
[04:41:48] <cmn32480> ~gnight bytram
[04:41:51] * exec accidentally reverse-engineers a raid 5 volume of pork rinds from bytram
[04:41:54] <cmn32480> ~gnight charon
[04:41:56] * exec derisively throws a wad of pancakes at charon
[04:42:02] <charon> i win
[04:42:10] <cmn32480> bytram got pork rinds....
[04:42:20] * Bytram would prefer the pancakes
[04:42:26] <charon> no trades
[04:42:29] <cmn32480> me too
[04:42:32] <Bytram> Mmmm maple syrup
[04:43:16] <Bytram> http://www.aljazeera.com
[04:43:18] <charon> damnit, i really want to like hexchat, but activity in other channels is so hard to see
[04:43:19] <exec> └─ 13Dakota pipeline protesters told to leave federal lands - News from Al Jazeera
[04:44:57] <GreatOutdoors> mIRC is nice...
[04:45:02] <GreatOutdoors> just sayin'
[04:45:33] <Bytram> I've grown partial to HexChat
[04:46:39] <charon> cmn32480, are you still in the wikileaks story?
[04:47:02] <Bytram> after that beer, he's probably taking a leak in the wiki, instead
[04:47:17] <charon> fallen asleep in his chair maybe
[04:47:42] <Bytram> it was rather chairitable of you to say that
[04:48:15] * charon is trying to decide how to murder Bytram
[04:48:37] <Bytram> ask Colonel Mustard for a candlestick in the library
[04:49:47] <charon> no jury would convict me.
[04:50:02] <Bytram> are you saying you have no peer?
[04:50:18] <Bytram> if so, then you might want to have a talk with your ISP
[04:50:31] <Bytram> http://www.reuters.com
[04:50:33] <exec> └─ 13China approves $36-billion railway plan for Jing-Jin-Ji megacity
[04:50:53] <charon> i am peerless
[04:51:21] <Bytram> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:51:23] <exec> └─ 13Geo-boffins say 'quake lifted bits of New Zealand by 8 metres, moved at 3km/second • The Register
[04:51:29] <Bytram> ~define peerless
[04:51:30] <exec> peerless: unable to find definition
[04:51:40] <Bytram> ~g peerless
[04:51:42] <exec> [google] www.peerlessproducts.com.au/
[04:52:21] <charon> 8 meters. that's going to mess up GPS
[04:52:37] <Bytram> 'zacvtly
[04:52:52] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[04:52:57] <charon> turn left at the next gaping chasm
[04:53:01] <Bytram|away> ~gnight #editorial
[04:53:02] * exec scientifically writes a fanfic featuring a boot of breakfast chili about #editorial
[04:53:08] <charon> ~gnight Bytram|away
[04:53:10] * exec buttmagically connects a ciri of eye crust to Bytram|away
[04:53:24] <Bytram|away> ~gnight charon
[04:53:25] * exec crutchyly experiences a 40 of cheese with charon
[04:54:33] <Bytram|away> laters folks.
[05:20:06] <Fnord666> A belated good night Bytram|away
[05:37:00] <charon> hiyo fnord666
[05:37:20] <charon> heh, iam very belated too
[05:37:23] <Fnord666> hey charon
[05:38:32] <Fnord666> How are you this eve/morning?
[05:39:07] <charon> i am well. had a nice evening with my kids
[05:39:13] <charon> and you?
[05:42:24] <Fnord666> doing well. About to call it a night soon. Thanks for asking.
[05:43:36] <charon> that Just Foloowing Orders submission is great. we should encourage that sort of writing
[05:44:37] <Fnord666> I and others did as well. We don't get too many submissions, at least lately, with lengthy original content.
[05:45:22] <Fnord666> It'll be interesting to see the comments that come out of it as well.
[05:46:58] <Fnord666> Hitting first thing in the morning in EU also. Should have some good discussion before the US wakes up.
[05:47:01] <charon> i looked at it when n1 brought it up. at first i wondered why so little of it was in <blockquote>. then it dawned on me
[05:47:18] <Fnord666> :-)
[05:56:35] <Fnord666> ~gnight #editorial
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[09:33:46] <janrinok> #weather
[09:33:47] <MrPlow> Today: Sunny. High 44F. Winds E at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: A few clouds from time to time. High 49F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph.
[09:33:52] <janrinok> ~weather
[09:33:53] <exec> 10Paimpol, France - currently 41°F / 5°C, sunny, wind E at 11 mph, humidity 70% - Tuesday sunny (34°F:44°F / 1°C:7°C), Wednesday mostly sunny (37°F:49°F / 3°C:9°C), Thursday sunny (40°F:52°F / 4°C:11°C), Friday partly cloudy (39°F:47°F / 4°C:8°C)
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[12:25:21] <cmn32480> awww regular janrinok is back... how spiffy
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[13:56:22] <Bytram|away> hat tip to all the new guys posting stories!!! things have been CRAZY busy at work for the past week, and will likely stay that way until well into January
[14:05:24] <janrinok> Bytram|away, _that_ old story? Do you think it will work again with the new guys? ;)
[15:39:27] <n1> http://www.thedailybeast.com
[15:39:29] <exec> └─ 13Elite U.S. Special Operators Build Center for Perpetual War on Terror - The Daily Beast
[15:40:03] <n1> “This has been going on,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on the expanded mission. “We’re just putting it on steroids.”
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[16:15:33] <Snow> Mornin' ladies and gentlemen
[16:26:36] <n1> mornin' Snow
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[17:31:33] <charon> ~gday editorial
[17:31:35] * exec abrasively piles a sole datagram of 04,06derp on editorial
[17:32:04] <charon> hey janrinok, you got your nick back
[17:45:27] <janrinok> yes, but not znc yet, so no backreading
[17:46:38] <charon> nothing to see. we certainly didn't spend the last few days making fun of you
[17:46:56] * charon coughs nervously
[17:46:58] <janrinok> now I'm more than certain that you did ...!
[17:48:03] <charon> how are things?
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[18:11:58] <janrinok> sry charon, I had to do my nursing bit. I'm OK, but it's early evening here so I am just beginning to rest after a fairly busy day
[18:14:09] <charon> no worries. real life always takes priority
[18:14:22] <janrinok> are you at work?
[18:14:28] <charon> rest is good. rest with a beer is even better
[18:14:56] <charon> ayep. very slow day today, had 1 customer over the past hour
[18:15:15] <janrinok> I wonder why Snow left that particular story where he did?
[18:16:49] <charon> non-display? dunno. maybe he was going to come back to it later but wanted to save his editing progress?
[18:17:01] <janrinok> he's still working on it I think
[18:17:25] <janrinok> well, he also left it in the middle of a bunch of correctly spaced stories
[18:17:46] <charon> i just realized: i knew at a glance what that color meant.
[18:18:04] <janrinok> see, it gets easier as time goes by :)
[18:19:05] <janrinok> Snow, are you on here?
[18:19:54] <janrinok> well, at least he has rescheduled it to a better time
[18:21:29] <Snow> yo
[18:21:31] <Snow> I'm here now
[18:21:42] <janrinok> lol - we were just watching your story move around
[18:22:00] <Snow> ya, sorry, forgot to update the time :/
[18:22:08] <janrinok> did you define 'RMG' - it was the only thing that had me guessing
[18:22:11] <Snow> I cought it right away
[18:22:18] <Snow> , surprised anyone noticed
[18:22:21] <Snow> you are on the ball :P
[18:23:04] <janrinok> I've made that mistake so many times I now know what I should be looking for - although I still make the same mistake from time to time
[18:26:23] <Snow> haha. I noticed that RMG had no definition and then I forgot about it....
[18:26:25] <Snow> I've updated it.
[18:26:50] <janrinok> do you want me to 2nd it yet, or would you rather continue it?
[18:27:32] <Snow> I think I'm done, unless you see any other problems
[18:27:44] <janrinok> oooh, hesitation, ....
[18:27:54] <janrinok> OK, lol, I'll 2nd it
[18:28:07] <Snow> oops RM
[18:28:14] <Snow> RMG definition in wrong place
[18:28:15] <Snow> sec
[18:28:58] <Snow> There, now it's after the first time RMG appears
[18:29:09] <charon> the sidebar story queue shows the stories around the release time you set. so if the queue is full, the sidebar won't show the next opening, it shows a sea of green stories
[18:29:39] <charon> at least at first, when the default time is what? now() + 15 min?
[18:30:11] <Snow> charon: I'm not sure what you mean...
[18:30:20] <Snow> I'm off for lunch though. I'll be back in an hour.
[18:30:53] <charon> cheers, snow
[18:31:05] <janrinok> bon appetit1
[18:31:08] <charon> i may be able to formulate my thoughts better later
[18:31:16] <janrinok> that should have been a ! not a 1
[18:31:31] <charon> hah
[18:32:08] <charon> about half the time i type n1, i start off making it ni and have to delete
[18:32:51] <janrinok> he prolly answers to ni now as well
[18:33:01] <charon> heheh
[18:33:35] <janrinok> and OriginalOwner_ just tried to push another of his stories through as 'Breaking News'
[18:34:47] <charon> oh? did you delete it? or change it to normal?
[18:34:56] <janrinok> changed it to normal
[18:35:29] <charon> but but... it's a protest for today. it must be breaking news
[18:35:59] <janrinok> but it is too easy for us to not notice that and push it through without changing it. There are lots of clues, but if you are not concentrating (e.g. middle of the night) you can miss it
[18:36:50] <janrinok> if it is time critical he should say so - that doesn't make it breaking news. Breaking news sounds alarms on people's smart phones, BN disrupts people in meetings, etc
[18:38:09] <charon> yeah. we're not a call to action type of site.
[18:38:44] <janrinok> I was just going to say roughly the same thing - the story isn't one I personally would even bother with.
[18:39:02] <charon> i'd read an aftermath report of how it went.
[18:39:33] <janrinok> And I hardly see what our 6500 members will do that will make a difference to a nationwide day of action
[18:39:56] <charon> you're in charge of France, get moving
[18:40:19] <janrinok> nah, some other guy just got elected for that 2 days ago
[18:41:45] <charon> did you get a crazy bastard too?
[18:42:38] <janrinok> don't know, but he is highly likely to win the presidential vote next year. He is centre right but not off-the-wall sort of right wing
[18:46:23] <janrinok> the centre left are currently in power but not making a brilliant job of things. Not sure that the next guy will do any better though
[18:47:20] <janrinok> compared with US parties though you would call them both left wing. To us Europeans, they are just either side of centre
[18:47:23] <charon> the BBC thumbnail biography makes him seem alright. he's farther left than either candidate in the US election
[18:48:23] <janrinok> yeah, we laugh a lot when you call one of your candidates left wing or, even worse, a COMMUNIST! You haven't seen a communist in your history
[18:49:05] <janrinok> not to European eyes at any rate
[18:49:45] <charon> yeah. it would be funny if it weren't so painful
[18:51:19] <charon> so is a president independent of the parliament and prime minister?
[18:51:33] <janrinok> to us, social welfare and decent health care are what everyone should be entitled to. We are horrified that people who cannot afford something cannot have treatment.
[18:52:21] <janrinok> Ah, you are getting into the niceties of French politics, which is not my strong point - particularly as I am a Brit...
[18:52:45] <charon> heh, just curious, because i know britain does not have a president
[18:53:50] <janrinok> But the leader of one of the main parties will get elected to the post of president. The link between him and his government - which will have the majority in the relevant politcal houses - is not something that I can explain.
[18:54:32] <charon> fair enough
[18:54:37] <janrinok> In the UK, the Queen 'invites' the leader of the winning party after a general election to form 'her' government.
[18:54:46] <charon> to the wikipedia-mobile!
[18:55:12] <janrinok> but that is a procedural thing - she actually has very little say in what parliament approves
[18:56:23] <janrinok> The House of Commons (from Commoners) represents the general public, and the House Of Lords the 'ruling class' but that is an historical division which provides checks and balances
[18:57:06] <janrinok> they are much more related to political appointments than hereditary peerages
[19:00:17] <charon> i have read up a bit on the british system before. i seem to recall that the queen can veto but more or less once ever because she'd be stripped of that privilege if she ever exercised it
[19:02:00] <janrinok> effectively yes, but there are historical and legal niceties that would have to be followed. If she interfered directly in the work of the government it could lead to the end of the monarchy and the creation of a Republic.
[19:03:22] <janrinok> she therefore refrains for ever making public statements regarding her own preferences and desires - the people's will - through their elected MPs - is supposed to be paramount.
[19:34:58] <charon> hah. i made the mistake of telling my co-worker that today is my birthday. now he's on the intercom telling the whole store. bastard
[19:40:02] <janrinok> HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR CHARON, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU - trust me, I can keep a secret
[19:40:39] <charon> yeah. i knew i had compounded my mistake as soon as i hit enter
[19:40:57] <janrinok> nobody will notice 1 line in a page of IRC chat - trust me
[19:41:09] <janrinok> ~eds charon's birthday
[19:41:10] <exec> editor ping for janrinok (reason: charon's birthday): janrinok zz_janrinok n1 nick martyb Bytram cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away Fnord666 charon GreatOutdoors FatPhil Snow goodie mrpg
[19:41:18] <charon> i hate you forever
[19:41:19] <janrinok> ah, damn, that wasn't meant to happen
[19:41:39] <Snow> HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARON!!! How old?
[19:41:42] <janrinok> lol
[19:41:49] <charon> oh ffs
[19:42:17] <charon> 42. i am now the answer to the question of life the universe and everything
[19:42:22] <janrinok> some people just can't be trusted I suppose ...
[19:42:50] <janrinok> but Snow, please keep it quiet, he doesn't want anyone to know, OK?
[19:43:57] <charon> thought i was talking to my buddy janrinok. turns out it was a freaking megaphone
[19:44:29] <Snow> Yea, well, I can keep a secret. It's all good.
[19:44:31] <janrinok> lol o<
[19:45:47] <janrinok> I don't think I can remember being 42 ....
[19:45:57] <janrinok> young whipper snappers
[19:49:22] <janrinok> charon - at least I didn't ping all staff....
[19:49:49] <Snow> How do you change your timezone settings so that all the times are displayed in my local time?
[19:50:07] <Snow> I don't see a timezone section in my prefs
[19:50:12] <janrinok> er where? on IRC? on the editing pages?
[19:50:21] <Snow> like on the stories list
[19:50:37] <janrinok> it's in your preferences somewhere
[19:50:38] <Snow> IRC works fine
[19:51:19] <Snow> oh, got it
[19:51:54] <janrinok> homepage
[19:52:18] <Snow> There are TABS in the preferences section. Imagine that...
[19:52:46] <janrinok> well, when did they appear?
[19:53:05] <janrinok> week 1, day 1 as I recall ....
[19:53:15] <Snow> I usually run noscript at home, so maybe that was screwing with things.
[19:53:41] <janrinok> SN has an exemption in my NoScript - I need it for editing etc
[19:54:25] <Snow> I've got it added at work, but I've been manually allowing at home. I'll get around to adding it one day... It's just the temp allow option is so ingrained in my muscle memory.
[19:55:16] <Snow> It's all good now. I'll never have to worry about that again. Nope. Never.
[19:55:36] <janrinok> I can never remember where the various option settings are - I have to go searching every time I want to change something
[19:56:53] <janrinok> charon's gone quiet - perhaps he is surrounded by chicks wanting to give him a birthday kiss
[19:58:51] <janrinok> well, it's time for me to be on my way again. See you guys tomorrow.
[19:59:01] <janrinok> ~gbye #editorial
[19:59:11] <janrinok> ~gnight #editorial
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[19:59:14] <Snow> good night!
[19:59:22] <janrinok> night Snow
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[20:00:38] <charon> darn, i just missed him. had a flurry of customers at work
[20:02:38] <Snow> Charon, where are you from? I'm in Calgary, Alberta, Canada
[20:07:55] <charon> i'm in a suburb of Boston, Massachusetts, US
[20:08:14] <charon> not actually from here, but i have lived here around 9 years now
[20:10:54] <Snow> Ahh, cool. I just like to imagine where the poeple I am talking to actually live.
[20:16:35] <charon> is there snow up there yet?
[20:16:53] <Snow> ... no :(
[20:16:59] <Snow> I'm super dissapointed
[20:17:18] <Snow> We had one day with a skiff of snow, but it was gone in a couple hours.
[20:17:44] <Snow> I spent $800 on new snow tires, so I'm a little peeved that I haven't been able to use them
[20:17:52] <charon> none here yet either.
[20:18:20] <charon> that's a bit disappointing then. got all dressed up and nowhere to go
[20:18:33] <Snow> I think we miht get some next week. It's supposed to cool down to -17ish at night, and usually when there is a big drop in temperatures it pulls some snow out of the air
[20:19:09] <Snow> The ski hills were promising an epic snow year, but so far that hasn't panned out.
[20:20:17] <charon> two years ago we got a ridiculous amount of snow in a short time. something like 120" over 4 weeks. i'm still gun-shy from that
[20:20:41] <Snow> I remember that!
[20:21:03] <Snow> I'd love something like that
[20:21:26] <Snow> There has only been one day I can ever remember that actually brought enough snow to close schools
[20:21:47] <Snow> we got just under a meter overnight
[20:22:17] <Snow> I remember building a huge pile up and then jumping off the roof into it
[20:22:42] <charon> as a kid? i bet your parent's weren't so happy
[20:23:16] <Snow> My mom was a single mom with 4 kids...
[20:23:35] <Snow> she did a great job, but the kids ran the house
[20:24:02] <charon> hah
[20:27:58] <charon> the school district around here is overly cautious. they have closed schools over just a few inches, (~10 cm). very crappy for parents who have to rearrange work schedules
[20:41:51] <Snow> It's too bad, those days were the funnest to be at school... Making snow slides and forts and rolling huge snowballs with a dozen kids pushing it was a lot of fun.
[20:49:23] <charon> yep. the kids would be happy to go, but the school is worried about kids slipping on the sidewalks
[20:52:00] <Snow> But they are so low to the ground and have bendable bones!
[20:52:59] <charon> lol
[20:58:37] <charon> catch you later, snow
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[21:01:02] <Snow> c ya!
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[23:23:04] <charon> usually fnord666 has 3 or 4 ghosts hanging around, now none...
[23:24:14] <Snow> Hey Charon, I see you picked up my coinbase story
[23:24:47] <charon> yep. looks good, i just added a clarification of what coinbase is, since i had no idea
[23:24:48] <Snow> It's not really a threat to coinbase, but rather to any customer's privacy that happened to use coinbase
[23:24:59] <charon> i can clarify that then
[23:25:52] <Snow> I think it was a good idea to clarify that coinbase was though
[23:26:37] <charon> yah. also tweaked the americanbanker link to be the "everything on one page" link
[23:26:55] <Snow> Oh, good call!
[23:28:33] <charon> i know next to nothing about bitcoin. i guess i've picked up a thing or two over time, but no direct experience
[23:29:06] <Snow> You'll see a lot more of it here if I have anything to do with it!
[23:29:29] <Snow> I'll try not to go crazy though :)
[23:29:45] * charon stamps REJECTED on Snow's forehead
[23:29:52] <Snow> not again
[23:30:04] * Snow has high school flashbacks
[23:30:10] <charon> lol
[23:31:03] <Snow> "the privacy of users of" seems klunky
[23:31:04] <Snow> to me
[23:31:15] <charon> i know, it does to me also.
[23:31:25] <charon> but couldn't come up with anything better
[23:31:29] <Snow> potential privacy threat to users of currency...
[23:31:49] <charon> yeah, that works better
[23:32:07] <charon> well why didn't you write it that way, submitter?
[23:32:18] <Snow> haha, I should have :)
[23:33:24] <Snow> Well, Charon, I'm heading home for the night. Maybe I'll see you on here tomorrow. g'night
[23:33:37] <charon> take care snow
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[23:56:30] <Fnord666> ~gday #editorial!
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