#editorial | Logs for 2016-11-28

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[00:14:31] <Fnord666> Geed evening everyone
[00:15:16] <Fnord666> s/Geed/Good/
[00:15:17] <exec> <Fnord666> Good evening everyone
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[00:29:45] <nick> in out in out
[00:33:40] <cmn32480> obviously Fnord is fucking IRC
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[01:13:22] -!- mode/#editorial [+v charon] by Hephaestus
[02:34:31] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:36:42] <charon> wb bytram|notreallyawayanymorebutpossiblysorta
[02:45:42] * Bytram waves but not sorta really
[02:46:00] <Bytram> charon: howz thingz?
[02:48:44] <charon> things is ok. not sure what i want to do with my evening. maybe i need beer
[02:48:50] <charon> and you?
[02:50:15] <Bytram> just woke (a few minutes ago) from a much-enjoyed, two-hour nap.
[02:50:37] <Bytram> am working on a story atm; will need 2nding in a couple minutes
[02:51:29] <charon> queue is getting pretty dry. maybe i'll seek out something to sub
[02:51:49] <Bytram> do you know about our #rss-bot channel?
[02:52:13] <charon> funny. 3 weeks ago, i would not have noticed or, honestly, cared much if the queue ran dry
[02:52:21] <charon> no, do not know about it
[02:52:32] <charon> is that where arthur hides?
[02:52:34] <Bytram> you are in for a nice surprise
[02:52:46] <Bytram> what IRC client do you use? hexchat?
[02:52:57] <charon> mibbit, a browser based client
[02:53:03] <Bytram> k
[02:56:02] <Bytram> sorry about that; my connection hiccuped
[02:56:26] <Bytram> if you can see/access multiple channels at once, then try this cmd: /join #rss-bot
[02:56:42] <charon> joined
[02:57:17] <Bytram> there's a bot that monitors quite a number of rss feeds and posts to that channel when anything comes in. =)
[02:57:40] <Bytram> here's another tid-bit... did you know that many of the IRC channels are logged?
[02:58:14] <charon> yeah, i read #editorial logs when i log on to see if anything interesting happened
[02:58:21] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:58:32] <charon> usually don't do any other channels
[02:58:45] <Bytram> check out the one for #rss-bot and you'll get an idea of what it puts out... I find it really handy
[02:58:55] <charon> one of these days i'll have Deucalion set me up on the bouncer
[02:59:18] <Bytram> took a little time for setup, now I wouldn't dream of using IRC w/o it
[03:00:00] <charon> wow, rss-bot has a lot of stuff all through the day
[03:00:05] <charon> very cool
[03:00:14] <Bytram> =)
[03:00:22] <Bytram> thot you'd like it!
[03:02:45] <charon> how come your nick is backwards here? or i suppose it could be backwards on the site
[03:03:30] <Bytram> 'twas a time where there were several nicks here that all started with the letter 'M'
[03:03:57] <Bytram> depending on who was or was not on, Ma<tab> may or may not resolve to my nick
[03:04:06] <charon> ahh
[03:04:18] <Bytram> out came the edict; "Nobody in the main channel can have a nick starting with 'M'"
[03:04:24] <charon> lol
[03:04:26] <Bytram> so, I reversed mine..
[03:04:30] <charon> seems drastic
[03:04:49] <Bytram> and then discovered how apropos a nick it was with two references to computer stuff "Byte" and "RAM"
[03:04:51] <Bytram> =)
[03:05:08] <charon> bytram++
[03:05:08] <Bender> karma - bytram: 43
[03:05:28] <Bytram> I've been using computers since the 1970's, and that was the first time I noticed that
[03:06:04] <Bytram> story away!
[03:06:10] <Bytram> charon: thanks!
[03:06:22] <charon> scrutinizing
[03:07:09] <Bytram> forgot to include that penthouses on the top two floors cost $12 million, each.
[03:07:42] <charon> eat the rich! or drown them, i guess
[03:08:21] <Bytram> if they, at the top of a nearly 200-meter tall tower, are drowned... the rest of us are gonna be in trouble, too. :/
[03:08:27] <charon> point
[03:09:03] <charon> so, is there any provision to stop race conditions for stories?
[03:09:21] <Bytram> community razzing
[03:09:36] <Bytram> e.g.: don't *DO* that!
[03:09:43] <charon> fair enough
[03:10:05] <charon> check the damn log before yo uenter a story, dope
[03:10:14] <Bytram> is not so terribly bad. often-times, I can hit "back" in my browser and recover the text before my version got nuked.
[03:11:00] <Bytram> also, if you enter one that someone else is already in, there is bolded type up near the place where one edits the subject that flags someone else might be in there, too.
[03:11:18] <charon> i guess i have never seen that
[03:11:31] <Bytram> hmmm
[03:12:07] <Bytram> try hitting "Preview" in the millenium story
[03:12:40] <Bytram> right below the text entry box for the subject, I see this line:
[03:12:41] <Bytram> 100% matching with "San Francisco's Millennium Tower is siiiinnnnking" currently edited by charon
[03:12:46] <charon> oh, i see it now
[03:13:03] <Bytram> yeah, cause I *just* brought the story up in the editor
[03:13:08] <charon> and mine says 75% because i changed to title case on my screen
[03:13:55] <charon> do you like the extra i's and n's?
[03:14:03] <Bytram> hmmm,
[03:14:49] <Bytram> was kinda 'cute'... nah...
[03:15:24] <Bytram> San Francisco's Millennium Tower is Leaning and Sinking -- ESA Space Probe Reports
[03:16:16] * Bytram has bnacked out of the story
[03:16:42] * charon nukes the whole story and puts a rick roll link
[03:17:00] * Bytram nukes charon
[03:23:23] * Bytram watches as a brightly-glowing zombie approaches
[03:23:59] <charon> uhh, shoot it?
[03:24:35] * Bytram discovers that it was created as a result of a nuke
[03:24:54] <Bytram> ah, nvm... bad attempt at a joke is NOT improving
[03:25:10] <charon> heheh
[03:25:33] <charon> done. only a small amount of butchering
[03:25:51] * Bytram wants a drumstick. please.
[03:26:36] * charon passes a turkey drumstick to Bytram. Enjoy
[03:27:04] <Bytram> hmmm, "You are what you eat" -- do I wanna be a turkey or just plain chicken?
[03:27:04] <charon> hah, turkey! because that story was a... never mind
[03:27:46] * Bytram goes to take a look
[03:29:17] <Bytram> not the best submission to work with, and I'm certainly not at my best, but it's serviceable -- thanks for the 2nd!
[03:29:23] <Bytram> charon++
[03:29:23] <Bender> karma - charon: 4
[03:30:07] <charon> any time. you put a ton of work into making it better. i looked at the origianl
[03:30:22] <Bytram> yeah, wasn't easy.
[03:30:46] <Bytram> when I saw that "The Register" had a story up about it... thought I might be able to grab something toflesh it out.
[03:30:51] <Bytram> nograb
[03:31:20] <Bytram> you're doing thorough work -- I appreciate that.
[03:31:33] <charon> thank you
[03:31:45] <charon> i'm glad y'aal trust me enough to do it
[03:31:48] <Bytram> you're welcome!
[03:32:06] <Bytram> did you see any story of interest in the #rss-bot channel?
[03:32:23] <charon> i admit i was not expecting to be welcomed as an equal so quickly
[03:33:07] <Bytram> don't get me wrong, there ARE personalities here, but it's very much a meritocracy.
[03:33:37] <Bytram> that I've got 3000+ stories posted on the site just means I've had a lot of practice.
[03:34:02] <Bytram> (and learned from most of the mistakes that can be made posting stories, too.)
[03:34:07] <charon> lol
[03:34:45] <charon> cmn32480 showed me his embarassing first post when i started training to put me at ease
[03:34:57] <Bytram> believe it or not, I signed up to help in the development realm -- doing testing and QA
[03:35:12] <Bytram> there were some typos on some stories, I suggested crrections here in IRC
[03:35:27] <Bytram> after several ofthose, I suggested it would be easier for them if they let me fix 'em
[03:35:37] <Bytram> so, i got brought on board as staff.
[03:35:42] <Bytram> and look what happened!
[03:35:46] <charon> sucker
[03:36:02] <charon> but then, here i am too
[03:36:08] <Bytram> =)
[03:36:57] <Bytram> there are times when it was 10 or 11pm, the story queue is low, and I would push out 4 or 5 stories before going to bed, just to make sure that the community had something to read.
[03:37:22] <Bytram> through thick or thin, I don't think there's been more than a 3 or 4 hour gap since the site went live
[03:37:41] <charon> https://arxiv.org looks like an interesting story, but i don't understand half the words in the abstract
[03:37:44] <exec> └─ 13[0903.0340v3] Physics, Topology, Logic and Computation: A Rosetta Stone
[03:37:58] * Bytram could prolly find out, but doesn't feel enogh curiosity to do the work atm
[03:38:09] <charon> rss-bot has defeated me
[03:38:31] <charon> that's pretty impressive.
[03:38:56] <charon> i've been lurking since the beginning, but never signed up for an account until a year or so in
[03:39:14] <Bytram> glad that you DID join up
[03:39:27] <charon> so i know you guys have done a fantastic job keeping things together and professiona
[03:39:34] <charon> l
[03:40:09] <Bytram> looks like you joined up on 2015-07-09
[03:40:25] <Bytram> the early days were quite *interesting*
[03:40:34] <Bytram> daily crashes, if not more frequent
[03:41:15] <charon> looked a touch stormy from the outside. i can only imagine what it was inside
[03:41:18] <Bytram> a several-year-old-and-non-maintained based of code that underlay slashdot, brought into working shape in just over a week
[03:42:09] <Bytram> NC is held in high esteem round here... and having met him personally, I can vouch that he's a really top-notch kinda guy that you'd want tohave in your court
[03:42:51] <Bytram> have watched him go from idea, reading docs, learning new tool, and putting it live on the system in an hour or two.
[03:43:03] <charon> wow. sharp cookie
[03:43:11] <Bytram> VERY
[03:43:30] <Bytram> oh, and for that journal article...
[03:43:31] <Bytram> VERY
[03:43:35] <Bytram> interesting =)
[03:43:52] <charon> which?
[03:44:01] <Bytram> and a sufficient level of abstraction, things are all very much similar
[03:44:06] <Bytram> https://arxiv.org
[03:44:09] <exec> └─ 13[0903.0340v3] Physics, Topology, Logic and Computation: A Rosetta Stone
[03:44:22] <Bytram> that said, is over my head, too.
[03:44:35] <Bytram> try things the other way around...
[03:45:07] <Bytram> do a search on the 'net for this journal's title, and see what other pubs have run a story on it... and draw a story from THAT
[03:45:14] <Bytram> break time... biab
[03:45:24] <charon> k, seeya
[03:50:18] <Bytram> back
[03:50:47] <Bytram> so, one thing to your advantage is you have a feel for what kinds of stories we post here...
[03:51:16] <Bytram> so it helps you to assess what the story you are working on and how it fits in with that "feel"
[03:52:24] <charon> yeah. i have been consciously steering away from politics/social stories
[03:53:05] <charon> i know they'll get submitted anyway, but it's not really my cup of tea
[03:54:01] <Bytram> same here
[03:54:14] <Bytram> the comments will drag it in anyway, no need to fan the flames
[03:54:22] <charon> hah
[03:56:34] <charon> funny, when submitting, i choose storie that i find very interesting and would like to discuss. then when they post, i find i can't remember what i wanted to say about it
[03:57:02] <Bytram> lol
[03:57:12] <Bytram> there is a bug in the system...
[03:57:26] <Bytram> eds are supposed to be able to comment on a story before it "goes live"
[03:57:44] <Bytram> that way, we can add our own twist on things without editorializing in the actual story
[03:57:59] <charon> i asked... i think cmn, and he said that was removed on purpose
[03:58:50] <Bytram> hmm, my recollection is that in the course of fixing some other parts of the system, this capability got borked
[03:59:14] <charon> maybe so. my memory is a bit fuzzy
[04:02:47] <Bytram> I am not certain about it, either. but that is my recollection
[04:02:53] <charon> playing a fascinating game with a friend. shogi, also known as japanese chess
[04:03:20] <charon> the rules are sort of like ordinary chess but different enough that it changes the game completely
[04:05:31] * Bytram never got that good at regular chess
[04:06:05] <charon> me neither
[04:06:06] <Bytram> could think maybe one or two moves ahead, but found myself overwhelemed with the combinatoric explosion of the different possibilties
[04:06:19] <charon> yeah. that's about my level too
[04:07:36] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[04:07:38] <exec> └─ 13Cat tongues are even 'handier' than you imagined -- ScienceDaily
[04:08:26] <charon> saw that the other day, it looks fun and light
[04:09:25] <Bytram> nod nod
[04:13:10] <Bytram> well, tomorrow is a work day... think I'm gonna hitthe hay
[04:13:21] <charon> ok, take care
[04:13:27] <charon> ~gnight Bytram
[04:13:28] * exec buttmagically piles a printout of unintended consequences on Bytram
[04:13:32] <Bytram> ~gnight charon
[04:13:33] * exec analiciously mixes a raid 5 volume of webscale with charon
[04:13:44] <Bytram> tie
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[08:39:13] <charon> any ops about? deucalion? a couple script kiddies in #soylent threatening to flood either a user or the site. can't make out which
[08:49:41] <chromas> no real threat. he's being a douche and I'm pasting Khyber quotes as a sockpuppet :D
[08:50:38] <chromas> for reference, Khyber is a character who had once 'threatened' to pummel the site with 400TB/s of data to jack up the hosting costs
[08:51:02] <charon> oh, so that's you as khyber. i thought he was a pal of jasassin's who came to help
[08:51:47] <chromas> nah, but I guess I am kinda helping him shit up the channel
[08:51:52] <charon> now this becomes even more amusing
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[10:06:44] <charon> if one of those soyguests is you, janrinok: thanks for having my back
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[11:49:07] <cmn32480> charon - if you are jsut looking for the content of the #rssbot for subs,
[11:49:45] <cmn32480> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[11:49:48] <exec> └─ 13Storybot - SoylentNews
[11:49:57] <cmn32480> and you can ubmit them here using the hash value
[11:50:08] <cmn32480> the command is ~arthur <hash>
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[13:34:57] * Bytram just subbed a story or two =)
[13:37:35] <Bytram> chromas: thanks for the explanation that it was you... I woulda gone nuts had I not known!
[13:37:45] * Bytram has been granted some limited IRC superpowers
[13:40:59] <Bytram> ~gday cmn32480
[13:41:01] * exec sardonically experiences a 55 gallon drum of cheese with cmn32480
[13:41:13] <Bytram> and, I need to be going soon
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[14:33:26] <janrinok_soyguest> good-day brave editors!
[14:33:50] * janrinok_soyguest feels that had the ring of an old communist propaganda poster!
[14:36:46] <cmn32480> Fidel.. how is roasting in hell?
[14:36:58] <janrinok_soyguest> bit warm, but very handy for my toast
[14:39:27] <janrinok_soyguest> cmn32480, you back in harness today? Almost as if you had never had a holiday ...
[14:42:17] <cmn32480> leasving in about 3 hours for a customer site. back home Friday most likely
[14:42:27] <janrinok_soyguest> travelling far?
[14:44:22] <cmn32480> 5 hour drive
[14:44:42] <janrinok_soyguest> a drive and not a flight - I'm not sure if that is better or worse
[14:44:56] <cmn32480> depends on traffic :-)
[14:45:33] <janrinok_soyguest> but it also means that if you can finish early you can start to travel homewards immediately without having to rebook and wait around
[14:46:04] <cmn32480> correct
[14:46:24] <janrinok_soyguest> did J and the kids enjoy the holiday?
[14:47:54] <cmn32480> yeah
[14:47:57] <cmn32480> it was nice to be home
[14:48:19] <janrinok_soyguest> and how did your afternoon at the amusement park go?
[14:49:18] * cmn32480 respectfully declines to answer that question
[14:49:26] <janrinok_soyguest> thought so ...
[14:56:07] <cmn32480> I'm trying to get a few thigns done here before I run out of town again.
[14:56:16] <cmn32480> and it seems that nothgin is cooperating
[14:56:22] <janrinok_soyguest> np - they don't pay you to chat to me
[14:57:21] <cmn32480> but cahtting to you isfar more enjoyable
[15:05:11] <janrinok_soyguest> must be a really crap job then
[15:20:54] <cmn32480> heheh
[15:24:43] <janrinok_soyguest> gtg - appointment
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[16:35:52] <n1> i can't believe it... someone on the internet is wrong.
[16:36:08] <cmn32480> must be you.. becasue that never happens
[16:36:45] <cmn32480> You know what Abe Lincoln said.... "Don't believe everything you see on the internet!"
[16:37:17] <n1> only the bits that support your existing position?
[16:38:12] <cmn32480> duh
[16:40:06] <cmn32480> and my position is never wrong.. even when you are right
[16:43:54] <n1> subs queue is kind of blah
[16:44:11] <cmn32480> 'bout the same as my hotel choices for tongiht.
[16:45:02] <n1> no hilton resort available?
[16:59:05] <cmn32480> go to the middle of nowhere, hang a left and go anohter half mile
[17:23:47] <n1> nice
[17:55:19] <cmn32480> allrighty... I'm out. 5 hour drive to the customer tonight.
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[18:04:12] <Fnord666_irc> Deucalion - when you have a chance would you please kick my stranded sessions?
[18:05:38] <chromas> Fnord666_irc: /msg nickserv ghost
[18:10:16] <Fnord666_irc> Fnord666_away is not a registered nickname.
[18:10:40] <Fnord666_irc> I'm not sure what I've done to create these sessions
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[18:11:59] <Fnord666_irc> When I ghost my registered nick it just reappears
[18:13:00] <Fnord666_irc> I should be in software QA with my ability to make a mess of software
[18:13:36] <Fnord666_irc> chromas - thanks for the suggestion though.
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[18:14:31] <chromas> welcome
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[18:15:34] <chromas> try also specifying the dead nick, /msg nickserv ghost Fnord666_away
[18:15:59] <Fnord666> Fnord666_away is not a registered nickname
[18:16:01] <chromas> unless you did that. I'd think it'd work
[18:16:03] <Fnord666> Tried that
[18:17:15] <chromas> oh I see; the old 'uns aren't logged in
[18:17:52] <Fnord666> But when I try to connect using those IDs they are "in use"
[18:18:30] <Fnord666> so I can't reconnect to them.
[18:19:14] <chromas> That's strange. They should've timed out by now
[18:19:26] <janrinok_soyguest> Fnord666, it won't let me back in either - happens every time it is rebooted
[18:19:59] <Fnord666> chromas - I thought so too.
[18:20:29] <Fnord666> janrinok_soyguest which it, your computer, hexchat, or the irc server.
[18:20:30] <Fnord666> ?
[18:21:09] <janrinok_soyguest> in my opinion, it is the server.
[18:21:39] <janrinok_soyguest> I have hexchat set up on 3 separate computers - all of which were working. So it is unlikely to be a corruption at this end.
[18:21:55] <Fnord666> makes sense.
[18:22:11] <janrinok_soyguest> I can log directly into irc on port 6697 but it will not accept my password which I know is correct - and is recorded on 3 different computers here
[18:22:30] <Fnord666> ok that's weird.
[18:22:33] <janrinok_soyguest> so I think - but could easily be wrong - that the problem lies with the irc server, not ZNC
[18:23:11] <Fnord666> I'm not on ZNC yet so that eliminates it from my issue.
[18:23:18] <janrinok_soyguest> this has happened to me for the last couple of reboots. Each time I have had to go for an IRC password reset
[18:23:55] <janrinok_soyguest> my guess is that the irc passwords are getting corrupted, and we are left trying to guess what random pw it has now got instead
[18:24:02] <Fnord666> My password is working ok. I just have these stranded, unusable sessions
[18:24:19] <Fnord666> and they cause everything in my backscroll to be echoed multiple times
[18:24:22] <janrinok_soyguest> perhaps we have different problems then
[18:24:40] <chromas> Fnord666: which client?
[18:24:44] <janrinok_soyguest> hexchat
[18:24:47] <janrinok_soyguest> on linux
[18:24:55] <Fnord666> hexchat on windows
[18:25:30] <janrinok_soyguest> well, why would 3 different configurations here all corrupt at the same time?
[18:26:21] <Fnord666> my apologies but I need to drop off for a bit.
[18:26:27] <janrinok_soyguest> anyway, I am far from being an expert in this, or in anything really. So I'll just have to wait until Deucalion replies to my email
[18:26:32] <janrinok_soyguest> np - cul8r
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[18:27:06] <chromas> we'll just talk to Fnord666_ and Fnord666_away
[18:28:00] <janrinok_soyguest> hi chromas, how's things with you?
[18:28:05] <n1> we've gone full retard apparently.. "using knife and vehicle in an attack is consistent with ISIS instructions"
[18:29:16] <chromas> janrinok_soyguest: doin' okay. Playing with hexchat and I see I can close a connection 'tab' without disconnecting, so that could be his problem. Looking for a way to get it back
[18:30:02] <janrinok_soyguest> hi n1, hows things in Uruguay?
[18:30:33] <janrinok_soyguest> I've seen that before but a long time ago, chromas, I don't think I ever got it back
[18:30:49] <n1> things are ok from here, disappointed by the news today as usual.
[18:31:05] <janrinok_soyguest> which particular bit of crappy news?
[18:56:05] <n1> all of it
[18:56:09] <janrinok_soyguest> lol
[18:56:25] <janrinok_soyguest> thank {Deity} for P666's submissions
[18:59:25] <n1> i've been having some polite discussion with P666 in the Zimbabwe story comments.
[19:03:58] <janrinok_soyguest> interesting exchange
[19:04:55] <n1> it's becoming increasingly frustrating that 'none of the above' isn't apparently a valid position
[19:05:07] <janrinok_soyguest> but if you are going to indulge in an intelligent discussion without descending into political mud slinging I'm wondering if you are on the correct site - or at least my cynical view of recent debates suggests.
[19:05:48] <janrinok_soyguest> actually, it is nice to see that the rhetoric is (slowly) dying down
[19:06:32] <n1> it can all be very subjective, but constructive discussion is still possible
[19:07:25] <n1> i hope this site can be above it, the mud slinging that is going on elsewhere around recent events elsewhere is troubling though
[19:07:49] <janrinok_soyguest> we've had a lot of it here recently, but I think we are recovering now.
[19:08:26] <n1> for all the years of some people using the mantra "Obama: Not My President" and variations on it, those same people are now "Trump is your president, deal with it."
[19:08:40] <n1> wilful ignorance and hypocrisy from both 'sides'
[19:09:11] <n1> feels like hitting my head against the wall when reading the partisan bullshit that's everywhere right now.
[19:10:20] <janrinok_soyguest> yup - I refuse to even take part in political discussions currently.
[19:10:50] <janrinok_soyguest> there are some that enjoy such things, I will leave it to them
[19:11:58] <n1> don't blame you, but it is becoming a 'those who shout the loudest' situation which is just going to enforce the political climate we currently are in
[19:12:57] <janrinok_soyguest> time for tea!
[19:13:00] <janrinok_soyguest> tea++
[19:13:00] <Bender> karma - tea: 26
[19:18:47] <janrinok_soyguest> I like tea
[19:19:18] <n1> tea is good
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[19:55:18] <janrinok_soyguest> gtg - see you guys tomorrow
[19:55:22] <janrinok_soyguest> ~gday charon
[19:55:24] * exec hurriedly duplicates a gallon of bedbugs for charon
[19:56:11] <charon> hi bye janrinok.
[19:56:17] <janrinok_soyguest> lol bye
[19:56:26] <charon> thanks for having my back in the Zumwalt story
[19:56:40] <janrinok_soyguest> np - you handled it well
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[20:05:53] <charon> ~gday n1_
[20:05:54] * exec emphatically pesters a BTRFS volume of chromas scratching his glasscrack with n1_
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[20:11:15] <n1_> ahoy charon
[20:11:47] <charon> how goes the day?
[20:14:12] <n1_> it goes
[20:14:21] <n1_> pondering writing something this evening
[20:15:17] <charon> journal type writing?
[20:16:36] <n1_> maybe a submission, depends how it turns out
[20:20:13] <charon> good luck, i know how hard getting started on writing can be. but then once you do start it can flow forever
[20:22:28] <n1_> need to go get some food type stuff before i can sit down to try and make a start
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[21:36:40] <Fnord666_irc> Good afternoon everyone!
[21:38:20] <n1_> hey Fnord666_irc
[21:39:00] <Fnord666_irc> How is n1_ today?
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[21:41:35] <n1_> n1_ is trying not to complain
[21:41:41] <n1_> how is Fnord666
[21:41:53] <Fnord666> Doing well today, thanks for asking.
[21:43:36] <n1_> i have just changed the headline on the 'SF Muni Hack' story to avoid betteridge's law.
[21:44:39] <Fnord666> Good thinking
[21:45:20] <n1_> i have been known to let them slip through, only when the answer is irrefutably yes, just to piss the people off who like to call it out.
[21:46:57] <Fnord666> ;-)
[21:48:13] <Fnord666> Apparently OO's guess about how it happened was incorrect.
[21:52:19] <Fnord666> What do we do with OO's story submission about the SF Muni hack?
[21:56:39] <n1_> is it still in the queue?
[21:57:02] <n1_> i'll delete it
[21:57:22] <Deucalion> ~tell
[21:57:23] <exec> syntax: ~tell <nick> <message>
[21:57:38] <n1_> as OO_/gewg_ doesn't have an account, rejecting submissions don't make any difference
[21:58:11] <n1_> he's still credited on the story that will go live, he had no karma to gain or profile to show rejected submissions on
[21:58:55] <Deucalion> ~tell charon You'll get your bouncer acct once I've sorted out janrinok's bouncer hiccup and work stops kicking my ass :P
[22:01:11] * n1_ waves to Deucalion
[22:01:57] <Fnord666> Good afternoon Deucalion
[22:02:37] <Deucalion> Good evening Fnord666 and hat tip to n1_ :)
[22:04:28] <n1_> Deucalion, ok outside of work kicking your ass?
[22:06:45] <Deucalion> why not, seems to have a target on it right now
[22:12:09] * n1_ kicks it too
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[22:16:13] <Deucalion> didn't even register - must've become numb
[22:22:43] <Fnord666> Deucalion claims he's a numb ass. You won't believe what happens next!
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[22:25:21] * Fnord666 slaps himself up side the head and cleans up his stranded IRC sessions.
[22:25:22] <Deucalion> Fnord666 quits a lot? Do tell... what happens next?
[22:26:25] <Fnord666> I finally figured out where my stranded sessions were living and got rid of them.
[22:26:40] <Fnord666> Deucalion please disregard my earlier request to kick those sessions.
[22:30:50] <Deucalion> boo..... I was just strapping on my kicking shoes.
[22:32:09] <Fnord666> :-)
[22:38:33] <n1_> there's something these chips are missing...
[22:38:41] <n1_> i know what it is... beer
[22:46:47] <Deucalion> Your language is slipping with your extended visitation over there n1_ ....chips indeed, I doubt they would even recognise the real lard sodden cholesterol bombs
[22:47:10] <Deucalion> Anyways, enough for me, out for the night. Be well all
[22:48:23] <Fnord666> ~gnight Deucalion
[22:48:25] * exec overratedly ships a udp packet of chocodiles with Deucalion
[22:49:34] * n1_ hat tip
[23:15:54] <Fnord666> n1_ have you glanced at the "The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense?" submission by AthanasiusKircher?
[23:18:31] <n1_> i will now
[23:22:33] <n1_> i see what you did there with "glance"
[23:29:50] <n1_> it's a great submission
[23:30:30] <n1_> have not ready any of the sources, but my hat goes off to the person that put it together
[23:38:42] <Fnord666> :-)
[23:39:38] <Fnord666> My question was round it being quite a lot of original content.
[23:41:04] <Fnord666> IF that's ok then I'll go ahead and put it up.
[23:41:36] <n1_> if the sources support the information presented, then it's perfect
[23:41:49] <n1_> i'd find a place to split a good chunk into extended copy
[23:42:21] <Fnord666> ok
[23:42:45] <Fnord666> There's a good place to split it off.
[23:42:50] <Fnord666> Thanks for the feedback.
[23:42:57] <n1_> it's not great that most of the submissions have very original content, in the submission guidelines we don't encourage copy/paste subs i'm pretty sure
[23:43:06] <n1_> very little original content
[23:43:39] <Fnord666> the department might be a bit more challenging that most I have done.
[23:44:06] <n1_> guilty of it myself, it's hard to write a good original submission and that one is great and on a difficult subject
[23:44:34] <n1_> yeah, you're on your own there lol
[23:47:41] <Fnord666> What do you do with a link that's 404 now? The link to the thealtlantic.com article now hits a 404.
[23:48:26] <Fnord666> maybe I'll just drop that sentence.
[23:50:06] <n1_> it works for me
[23:50:26] <n1_> http://www.theatlantic.com
[23:50:28] <exec> └─ 13Rethinking One of Psychology's Most Infamous Experiments - The Atlantic
[23:51:22] <Fnord666> Weird. I get a 404 from nginx when I try that link
[23:51:58] <Fnord666> I am getting redirected to a print based link though.
[23:52:36] <Fnord666> ok, firefox finds it.
[23:52:46] <Fnord666> I'll figure out chrome later.
[23:54:58] <Fnord666> What goes into the extended copy box? This will be the first one I will do.
[23:56:46] <n1_> nothing different, make sure it starts with a <p> and all the tags close at the end
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[23:57:23] <n1_> if you copy/paste what you want in it, you shouldn't really need to do anything else
[23:57:54] <GreatOutdoors> Hola peeps
[23:58:02] <Fnord666> Hola GO
[23:58:35] <n1_> also, add a [Continues...] to the end of the main summary
[23:58:42] <n1_> ahoy GreatOutdoors