#editorial | Logs for 2016-11-27

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[22:24:23] <Bytram> many thanks!
[22:24:04] <charon> 2nding done, cheers Bytram
[22:19:59] <Bytram> ok, break time. biab
[22:19:41] <Bytram> Say, I have mine set at "3" 'cause I have limited time, and don't want to see the low-rated stuff... with those two args in the URL, I'd suddenly be seeing a whole lot more comments, and far lower-rated ones, as well.
[22:18:54] <Bytram> specifically watch for these kinds of things in a URL pointing to a story on our site: threshold=-1 AND highlightthresh=-1
[22:16:59] <Bytram> btw, one thing to watch for with OO (aka gewg_) submissions... beware when there is a reference to earlier stories... often sets the threshold and breakthrough to an explicit value which means that all our registered user's selected settings for those get ignored when they click that link. I make it a point to strip that out of the URL.
[22:15:39] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 122
[22:15:39] <Bytram> teamwork++
[22:15:32] <charon> putting that in too, thanks n1
[22:15:04] <Bytram> nick: coordinate with charon
[22:14:53] <Bytram> I don't see why not.
[22:14:28] <nick> yeah, for 9 more days
[22:14:07] <Bytram> is that humble bundle thing still going on?
[22:13:41] <nick> worth including in the story about the 50% off, if we're doing that
[22:13:22] <nick> i'm guessing not
[22:13:17] <Bytram> idk
[22:13:12] <nick> i don't know, that's what i was asking lol
[22:13:04] <Bytram> and we ran a story on it?
[22:12:56] <nick> on unixy type stuff
[22:12:49] <nick> as little as $1 for 5 o'reilly ebooks
[22:12:18] <Bytram> ahh.. that feels better. ;)
[22:12:10] <exec> └─ 13Humble Book Bundle: Unix presented by O'Reilly (pay what you want and help charity)
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[22:12:06] <nick> https://www.humblebundle.com
[22:12:04] <Bytram|away> I don't recall.
[22:11:53] <Bytram|away> fine by me... go for it!
[22:11:51] <nick> did we previously do a story on O'Reilly books at humblebundle?
[22:11:23] <charon> leaning towards dropping the anti-DRM link. the promotion it links to is from May 2016
[22:10:08] <Bender> karma - charon: 3
[22:10:08] <Bytram|away> charon++
[22:08:57] <charon> i'm here, i'll take a look
[22:04:11] <Bytram|away> is scheduled to go out at 2016-11-27 @ 23:59 UTC
[22:03:29] <Bytram|away> lol
[22:03:25] <exec> └─ 13Error
[22:03:23] <Bytram|away> anybody here? I just added a time-sensitive story to the queue; could use a 2nd. "O'Reilly: Cyber Monday Sale; All 14,000 eBooks Discounted 50 Percent" https://soylentnews.org
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[19:09:19] <Bender> karma - tea: 25
[19:09:19] <janrinok_soyguest> tea++
[19:09:16] <janrinok_soyguest> time for tea
[18:53:48] <n1_> nah, but i've been pondering oddworld and broken sword 2 for some nostalgia
[18:40:07] <janrinok_soyguest> have you bought anything?
[18:39:36] <n1_> wb janrinok_soyguest
[18:14:07] <janrinok_soyguest> I have returned, and to prove it, I'm here
[17:10:33] <cmn32480> and it sets your ring on fire
[17:10:15] <cmn32480> certain ring of truth
[17:10:03] <n1_> delightful
[17:09:25] <cmn32480> lol
[17:09:13] <exec> [local] hypergolic buttsauce: what anything on a menu with over three out of five peppers will become in a few hours
[17:09:12] <cmn32480> ~define hypergolic buttsauce
[17:08:58] * exec buttmagically fires an A cup of hypergolic buttsauce at n1
[17:08:57] <cmn32480> ~gday n1
[17:08:48] * cmn32480 is off to fight the leaves and broken mailbox...
[17:00:59] <n1_> ahoy cmn32480
[16:40:27] * cmn32480 hears the clanging of pots and pans dong battle w/ janrinok_soyguest... it sounds as if janrinok_soyguest is losing
[16:09:04] <janrinok_soyguest> off to the kitchen - CHARGE!
[16:08:41] <janrinok_soyguest> well, it is going back 15 or more years so I don't remember too much about it
[16:08:15] <janrinok_soyguest> will try to - but you might hear my cussing from there
[16:08:06] <n1_> ghost recon have been some good games
[16:07:53] <n1_> have fun!
[16:07:44] <n1_> MGS is £25 normally, FO4 is £40 and TWOM is £15
[16:07:40] <janrinok_soyguest> well, I'd better go begin battle with the huge squash that I have been given. Tough as old boots to get through the skin, but the flesh is delicious
[16:05:20] <janrinok_soyguest> something like 4 or 5 missions and the chance to get yourself killed in thousands of ways
[16:04:48] <janrinok_soyguest> I don't know how much they normally cost but that sounds very reasonable. Never had a computer game like that - Oh, I think I had the freebie version of Ghost Recon when it first came out.
[16:04:22] <n1_> bought with the spare bitcoin from my laptop purchase
[16:03:58] <n1_> and this war of mine was £3
[16:03:45] <n1_> i figured £13 for FO4 and £16 for MGS was a pretty good deal
[16:02:27] <janrinok_soyguest> they don't stand a chance
[16:02:17] <n1_> yup
[16:02:13] <janrinok_soyguest> controller and flashing kbd lights!
[16:01:52] <n1_> but the one i have ordered is
[16:01:47] <n1_> im going to get a controller, the laptop i have right now is no good for games
[16:01:22] <janrinok_soyguest> that should keep you occupied. do you have a controller or is it all kbd action?
[16:01:12] <n1_> sadly fallout 4 is only the base game, since all the extra content costs more than the actual game itself
[16:00:52] <n1_> fallout 4, metal gear solid 5 and 'this war of mine'
[16:00:46] <janrinok_soyguest> turkey breast in a mushroom sauce, roast squash, and probably brocolli - but I'm undecided on the green veg for now
[16:00:07] <n1_> i already bought 3
[15:59:58] <n1_> what's for dinner?
[15:59:25] <janrinok_soyguest> any steam games in particular that you fancy?
[15:58:35] <janrinok_soyguest> nursy jobs over, got to start cooking soon
[15:57:48] * n1_ ponders more steam sale purchases
[15:46:12] <janrinok_soyguest> brb 5
[15:45:43] <janrinok_soyguest> I keep forgetting that you are in a very different TZ now
[15:45:25] * n1_ eats eggs on toast
[15:41:39] <janrinok_soyguest> oooh, aren't you posh!
[15:41:16] <n1_> i'm a bit more polite, i wear shorts with my t-shirts
[15:37:06] <janrinok_soyguest> I'm sat here in a t-shirt, and S is a couple of metres away wrapped in a fleece and blanket.
[15:36:26] <n1_> quiet is good
[15:33:08] <janrinok_soyguest> quiet - but that is not bad
[15:33:01] <janrinok_soyguest> quite
[15:32:49] <n1_> how goes
[15:31:15] <janrinok_soyguest> avast n1
[15:31:06] <n1_> ahoy
[12:46:54] <janrinok_soyguest> ~tell snow please remember to initial your comments in Editor's Notes
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[12:29:00] <janrinok_soyguest> I like my crooked nick
[12:28:55] <Bytram> hmmm... pm.
[12:28:48] <Bytram> I hope your nick can get straightened out soon...
[12:28:37] <janrinok_soyguest> might see you back here this evening then. But get some sleep too
[12:28:05] <Bytram> I dunno. at least 4... depending on how busy we are, I could prolly go up to 6 hours or so.
[12:27:28] <Bytram> well, that is one way of looking at it! Misplaced priorities, right?
[12:27:22] <janrinok_soyguest> how many hours today?
[12:27:01] <Bytram> not that anyone here might have noticed that! ;)
[12:26:59] <janrinok_soyguest> we will look after everything while you are off avoiding working on the site - :-)
[12:26:43] * Bytram does not idle well
[12:26:27] * Bytram prolly stop procrastinating and start moving my butt
[12:26:23] <janrinok_soyguest> off you go, and work hard!
[12:26:12] * Bytram just checked hours @ work... looks like I should aim to get there in about 90 minutes which means I
[12:24:53] <Bytram> brb
[12:24:50] <janrinok_soyguest> I'm very oh fay with these expressions
[12:24:32] <Bytram> two shay
[12:24:15] <janrinok_soyguest> that exchange is my proof that I am who I claim to be
[12:24:12] <Bytram> toot suite
[12:23:58] <janrinok_soyguest> lol
[12:23:54] * Bytram whistles
[12:23:34] <Bytram> don't tell crutchy -- he just might whip up a way to edit stories from IRC using PHP
[12:23:34] <janrinok_soyguest> who you callin' and idiot syncro-something?!
[12:23:05] <Bytram> single-signon is good when it works, but when that goes sideways, it tends to take *everything* along with it... kind of a good thing that we have some pockets of idiosyncrasies =)
[12:22:32] * janrinok_soyguest would prefer it the other way around - access to IRC but unable to do any work!
[12:22:02] <Bytram> well, at least you still have THAT!
[12:21:53] <Bytram> got it.
[12:21:50] <janrinok_soyguest> and editing the site is fine
[12:21:41] <janrinok_soyguest> well, I can log in as something else, but I haven't got the same privs or access to certain places
[12:21:11] <Bytram> IRC is kinda critical for us to be able to run the site, though, in a pinch, we could fall back to e-mail
[12:20:48] <Bytram> wish there was something I could do to help
[12:20:29] <Bytram> that is WAY outside my area of expertise, but if anyone can sort it out, it's prolly D or maybe PJ
[12:19:58] <Bytram> yup
[12:19:52] <janrinok_soyguest> well a new account might help
[12:19:29] <Bytram> is that the temporary fix which at least gets you back on, but there is still the underlying problem that the next time the server gets rebooted, you are again SOL?
[12:19:18] <janrinok_soyguest> just in case there is an invalid char somewhere in the config
[12:19:04] <janrinok_soyguest> but this time I've asked him to delete my account and start again with a clean sheet
[12:18:56] <Bytram> ugh.
[12:18:42] <janrinok_soyguest> the only solution seems to be a password reset on IRC, not ZNC
[12:18:27] <janrinok_soyguest> yep
[12:18:19] <janrinok_soyguest> I was hoping you wouldn't mention that - but now that you have I'll have to change everything!
[12:18:17] <Bytram> are you seeing the same symptoms this time as the prior times when IRC 'loses' you?
[12:17:32] <Bytram> yup, both here and on our luggage, I suppose, just to be safe.
[12:17:11] <janrinok_soyguest> damn, so is mine. ww'll both have to change it now
[12:16:52] <Bytram> maybe the problem lies with your choice of password? Mine is ********
[12:16:33] <janrinok_soyguest> you should graduate soon !
[12:16:28] <Bytram> hrm.
[12:16:22] * Bytram is pursuing an advanced degree at the school of cmn32480 touch typoing
[12:16:08] <janrinok_soyguest> it is not ZNC - I think the IRC server is forgetting my password.
[12:15:59] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:15:58] <Bytram> :/
[12:15:54] <Bytram> nodn od
[12:15:46] <janrinok_soyguest> nah, I've been in touch with Deucalion - he's looking at it
[12:15:35] <Bytram> is it a problem with ZNC?
[12:15:22] <Bytram> saw TMB was on in #Soylent -- maybe he can help?
[12:15:00] <janrinok_soyguest> every time there is a reboot
[12:14:53] <Bytram> AGAIN??!!
[12:14:44] <Bytram> picked up some extra hrs @ work for today; scheduled is somewhat up to me... hope to get there in about 1 1/2 hrs or so.
[12:14:20] <janrinok_soyguest> we've had a system reboot - the server has forgotten me again
[12:14:02] <janrinok_soyguest> I'll bet it did
[12:13:55] <Bytram> got about 7hr straight last night; helped a lot.
[12:13:35] <Bender> karma - sleep: 1
[12:13:35] <Bytram> sleep++ is good!
[12:13:32] <janrinok_soyguest> working*
[12:13:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 65
[12:13:23] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:13:23] <janrinok_soyguest> how's hard-wording marty today?
[12:13:19] <Bender> karma - breakfast: 1
[12:13:19] <Bytram> breakfast++
[12:13:06] * exec theoretically crossbreeds an example of teenage angst with janrinok_soyguest
[12:13:05] <Bytram> ~gday janrinok_soyguest
[12:12:44] * exec figuratively fires a megabyte of breakfast chili at Bytram
[12:12:42] <janrinok_soyguest> ~gday Bytram
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[09:54:23] <janrinok_soyguest> Fnord666_away, you can start editing your stories with Display set on. Welcome to the team
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[09:09:10] <janrinok> nope
[09:09:06] <janrinok> am I in?
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[03:02:56] <Bytram> and, with that,
[03:02:47] <Bytram> is good to have friends... is even gooder to have good friends... I am fortunate, indeed, to have gotten to know you all.
[03:02:00] <Bytram> n1: and a tip of my hat to you, too
[03:01:49] <Bytram> Fnord666: many thanks for the good wishes.
[03:01:38] * n1 hat tip Bytram
[03:01:31] <Fnord666> good night Bytram. Get some much deserved sleep.
[03:01:13] * exec ceremoniously queefs a buttload of radioactive rubber pants at charon
[03:01:11] <Bytram> ~gnight charon
[03:01:06] * exec readily pits a briefcase of poofy onion cheese dip against Bytram
[03:01:05] <charon> ~gnight Bytram
[03:01:00] <Fnord666> n1 - thx for taking a look at the alzheimer's story.
[03:00:49] <Bytram> okay, finding it hard to hold cohesive thoughts together... gonna call it a night.
[02:59:49] <Bytram> LOL
[02:59:42] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:59:33] <exec> └─ 13404 File Not Found
[02:59:31] * Bytram looks at the author's page: https://soylentnews.org
[02:59:29] <Fnord666> always good to get those paid
[02:59:23] <charon> rent, psssh
[02:59:06] <Bytram> yup... like food and rent
[02:58:59] <Fnord666> I seem to recall that as well
[02:58:52] <charon> more money to spend on frivolities
[02:58:29] <Bytram> that was my experience
[02:58:16] <charon> that's good. i seem to recall last year was considered pretty lackluster
[02:57:51] <Bytram> all-in-all it was a really good day sales-wise... sensed things were picking up compared to last year.
[02:57:28] <Bytram> last year, I lasted until 6:40 pm, but I had a later start and longer breaks.
[02:56:53] <Bytram> well, with bonus pay for working on a holiday and all, I think I'm getting paid for about 24 hours. =)
[02:56:10] <charon> 17 hour workdays is not a good thing
[02:56:10] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 121
[02:56:10] <Bytram> teamwork++
[02:56:06] <Bytram> I noticed the new guys have jumped right in and seem to be getting up to speed quite nicely!
[02:55:39] <Bytram> anyway, just wanted to poke my nose in and let you know I'm still alive... prolly won't be able to do much on the site over the next 24 hours or so.
[02:55:01] <Bytram> though, I must admit there are times when there is too much of a good thing ;)
[02:54:38] <Bytram> as I oft remind myself, "Being busy beats being bored."
[02:54:29] <n1> i hope you can get some rest tonight
[02:54:24] <Bytram> yeah, that is a most fitting word!
[02:54:14] <n1> busy Bytram
[02:54:12] <Bytram> so, /me has been up for about 20 hrs at this point, give or take -- can't bother to really do the math atm
[02:53:39] * Bytram is just a tad bit tired; worked black friday from 11pm on thanksgiving night until 4:30pm black friday, went home, slept, woke @ 2:30 am today, got lost in doing some programming until my alarm went off to tell me it was time to get ready to be at work at 0745... and worked until 5:30pm.
[02:52:48] <n1> how is Bytram
[02:52:45] <n1> things are good
[02:51:56] <charon> good, looks like he hasn't noticed the part about armed revolt
[02:51:41] <Bytram> howz thingz?
[02:51:31] <Bytram> n1: much obliged, fine sir!
[02:50:31] <n1> nothing important that i recall
[02:48:06] * Bytram pokes his nose into the channel -- sees a humongus backscool -- and decides to move right along and hope that, if there was anything important, that someone will kindly bring it to my attention
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[02:01:20] <charon> quitting time. back in a while
[01:58:10] <charon> 'lo fnord
[01:51:25] <Fnord666> Good evening all
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[01:40:32] <n1> customers are idiots
[01:30:08] <charon> i love one star reviews where the customer admits he is the one who screwed up
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[00:27:12] <n1> my concern is that if people end up on SN through google or whatever, they see links like that and it looks lazy and unprofessional and are less likely to become regulars on the site
[00:26:03] <charon> agreed, that does look nicer. i'll remember that
[00:24:28] <n1> on the aloe vera story i changed it to "Bloomberg reports:"
[00:24:02] <n1> my preference is to not leave the raw links in the summary, it's not that helpful and looks untidy.
[00:23:29] <charon> i was going to make janrinok do it
[00:23:18] <charon> thank you
[00:23:07] <n1> i have 2nd ed your stories
[00:20:25] <charon> hmm, i'm not sure i am wired to go off the deep end, ranting though....
[00:16:58] <n1> but if you want to rant or go off the deep end, then a journal is a good place to do it
[00:16:34] <n1> generally it's much better to make it into a submission
[00:15:40] <n1> it depends on the timing and the topics
[00:14:47] <charon> do journals get a lot of views? i have never really paid attention to them myself
[00:11:26] <charon> lol
[00:11:20] <n1> depends really, could make discussion when people call you out to say it sucks and is not a classic :p
[00:10:31] <charon> but it probably is better a comment
[00:10:22] <charon> and i wanted to encourage people to click it and read it
[00:09:51] <charon> aye. just happening across the link reminded me of how good that story is
[00:09:42] <n1> if you feel you need to, then there's bigger problems with the submission or your perspective on it
[00:09:13] <n1> add to the story, don't detract from the original submission
[00:08:13] <n1> less is always better, if you have something to say there's other ways to do that.. submissions, comments, journals
[00:05:19] <charon> cool. thank you. still not certain how much of my own views i can insert
[00:04:30] <n1> but otherwise, i don't have a problem with it.
[00:03:59] <n1> i would change it to mention the <i>Title</i> rather than saying "the story linked"
[00:01:30] <n1> looking now
[00:01:24] <n1> oh ok
[00:00:54] <exec> └─ 13Error
[00:00:52] <charon> https://soylentnews.org
[00:00:27] <charon> no. uss Zumwalt. already in the story Q but not 2nd yet