#editorial | Logs for 2016-11-17

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[00:58:40] <charon> cmn32480, ping
[01:47:14] <cmn32480> charon
[01:47:18] <cmn32480> wassup
[01:47:28] <cmn32480> sorry
[01:47:38] <cmn32480> left work.. ate... just finished putting the monsters to bed
[01:53:43] <charon> ah, just about to leave work
[01:53:52] <cmn32480> oh
[01:53:58] <cmn32480> don't let me keep you from the family
[01:54:16] <charon> nah, that's tomorrow. long story
[01:54:27] <cmn32480> ok
[01:54:40] <charon> but I touched a story on dev and was looking for some feedback on how I did
[01:54:43] <cmn32480> any quick questions I can answer? or you wanna hit me up later/tomorrow?
[01:54:47] <cmn32480> ok
[01:54:58] <cmn32480> I will tak e a poke at it and leave you stuff in the editors notes box
[01:55:11] <charon> I'll be back on from my house in about half an hour if you're still around
[01:55:23] <cmn32480> take your time
[01:55:34] <cmn32480> I gotta stuff the prod queue until you lot are ready to do it for me
[01:55:47] <charon> heh, thank you
[01:56:33] <cmn32480> np
[01:56:41] <cmn32480> I'll be here for at least another hour or 2
[01:58:05] <charon> coolness. catch you later on
[01:58:15] <cmn32480> lata
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[02:17:47] <cmn32480> anybody got thoguhts on the aristarchus sub?
[02:17:55] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[02:17:57] <exec> └─ 13The libertarian futurism of a Silicon Valley billionaire.: SoylentNews Submission
[02:18:15] <goodie> ~gday all
[02:18:16] * exec insatiably nudges a dogbox of weed toward all
[02:19:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, yup. plenty. mostly though it's preachy instead of informative and also snarky.
[02:19:54] <cmn32480> ~gday goodie
[02:19:56] * exec crutchyly pukes a raid 5 volume of Windows 10 on goodie
[02:20:09] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - I am not seeing a lot of value in it, frankly
[02:20:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[02:20:32] <cmn32480> he is pushing 3 or 4 subs on peter thiel in the last couple weeks.. noe have been really great...
[02:21:07] * cmn32480 wonders why aristarchus has a bit of an obsession
[02:21:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> remind him we are primarily a news discussion site and essays are not news.
[02:21:40] <cmn32480> perhaps weekend fodder if we run short...
[02:21:55] <goodie> I'm just not sure I see this as "news". He could just put that as a journal entry instead?
[02:21:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe but he needs to step up the quality and put a question in there or something.
[02:22:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> good eye, goodie
[02:22:58] <cmn32480> gewg wrote an essay too... https://soylentnews.org
[02:23:00] <exec> └─ 13Donald Trump is Filling Out His Transition Team: SoylentNews Submission
[02:24:07] <cmn32480> the standard far left view from him.
[02:24:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, bit ranty too.
[02:24:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> even for him
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[02:24:38] <goodie> there are about 3 separate subs in there ;)
[02:24:53] <cmn32480> none of them really good
[02:25:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> or 1/4 of an ncommander novel without all the fun
[02:25:08] <goodie> Maybe the climate change one would be more suitable for SN
[02:25:25] <cmn32480> we end up tossing easy 50+ of the political stuff that coems in
[02:25:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh...
[02:25:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, you should write up a novel for the new recruits to poke at.
[02:26:20] <cmn32480> we do want some of them to stay, you do understadn that, right buzzard?
[02:26:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> toss em in the deep end, says i
[02:26:42] <goodie> stories, people or both ;) ?
[02:26:49] <cmn32480> ^^^ Why TMB ain't in charge
[02:26:55] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[02:27:10] <charon> well it is NaNoWriMo
[02:27:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> shoot, NC can whoop one out in a morning.
[02:27:32] <cmn32480> sweet I got mod points on dev...
[02:27:43] <cmn32480> I am gonna moderate the shit out all these no comment stories
[02:28:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, i ain't even an editor. anything i got to say about editing is just some guy's opinion after listening to these guys for a couple years.
[02:29:03] <cmn32480> you edit in a pinch
[02:29:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> a very, very tight pinch
[02:29:18] <cmn32480> when the story queue runs dry adn you can't find anybody esle to do it
[02:29:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> like when we been an hour and a half since the last story ran out.
[02:29:43] <cmn32480> like when the queue ran dry a couple week sback, I was surprised I didn't get a phone call or text message
[02:29:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i completely forgot i had your number
[02:30:47] <charon> please refresh me, queue is edited stories ready for the front page, or submissions waiting for editing?
[02:31:05] <cmn32480> submission queu is the raw stuff that we get
[02:31:22] <cmn32480> waiting to be editied for publication
[02:31:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> both are queues. and there's a hold queue too.
[02:31:32] <cmn32480> the story queue is the queue for the front page
[02:31:39] <cmn32480> shhh
[02:31:42] <cmn32480> don't confuse him
[02:31:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> go by context.
[02:31:57] <cmn32480> the hold queue is wher we put stuff we want to bit rot out of exisitence
[02:32:00] <charon> psssh, it takes at least 4 things to confuse me
[02:32:13] <cmn32480> there is also a quick queue
[02:32:22] <charon> oh, now you've gone and done it
[02:32:24] <cmn32480> we have NFI what to do with that
[02:32:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, nobody does. so ignore it.
[02:33:17] <charon> i am going to publishe everything to the bewbs nexus from now on
[02:33:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell it took me a year to figure out how to even see the hold queue as little as i play with the edity bits
[02:33:34] <cmn32480> charon - no dept line?
[02:33:51] <charon> couldn't come up with anything, i put it off and forgot
[02:33:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't think they'll let me put my bewbs on prod
[02:34:01] <cmn32480> unlikely
[02:34:11] <cmn32480> though it could be a repository for... other thigns
[02:34:21] <cmn32480> Soylent news becomes an erotic fiction site....
[02:34:29] <charon> post your favorite pornhub links
[02:34:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> we should get EF to write for it
[02:34:48] <cmn32480> see?? that wasn't hard
[02:34:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, pornhub ain't got an api. redtube does though.
[02:35:06] <cmn32480> from the hiding-in-plain-site dept
[02:35:10] <goodie> knowing the crowd here it'd turn into food porn, as in bacon n' bewbs
[02:35:28] <cmn32480> and the porblem wiht that is what exactly new guy?
[02:35:34] <charon> lol
[02:35:50] <charon> two great tastes that...
[02:36:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, i need a new cushion. this one has failed me.
[02:36:09] <goodie> hey i didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I just observed how that would turn out
[02:36:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[02:36:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[02:36:14] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 1
[02:36:15] <cmn32480> finally melted?
[02:36:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> failed to protect
[02:36:32] <cmn32480> oh
[02:36:44] <goodie> from what 0_0 ?
[02:36:49] <cmn32480> charon - that sub is pretty well done
[02:37:01] <cmn32480> goodie - don't ask questions yo don't wann know the answers to
[02:37:07] * charon blushes.
[02:37:28] <cmn32480> the adjustments were good, added to the sub instead of detracting
[02:37:56] <charon> i felt like i was on the edge of doing too much rewriting
[02:38:15] <charon> like it was almost not his sub anymore
[02:38:24] <cmn32480> some submitters you gotta watch that (gewg_/Original Owner)
[02:38:50] <cmn32480> most know what the job we do is adn don't generally have an issue as long as most of what they thoguht was important made the final cut
[02:39:08] <cmn32480> the only thign that I think miight be missing is the part about the $500 in Amazon gift cards
[02:39:29] <cmn32480> that is a relevant point to the story about big data
[02:39:44] <cmn32480> but that is a feel thing
[02:39:46] <charon> i know, that seemed interesting too, but it didn't flow
[02:40:18] <cmn32480> sometimes all you need to do is tack somethign like that on the end after the <blockquote> and it works as a nice wind up
[02:40:19] <charon> which again, makes me feel like i'm taking over the sub and making value judgements on what's important
[02:40:33] <cmn32480> to a point, that is the job
[02:40:42] <charon> i am a pretty decent writer, but i've never attempted editing before
[02:40:46] <goodie> editing is more than just formatting
[02:40:48] <cmn32480> when we have to rewrite, that is exactly what we do
[02:41:11] <goodie> and at the end of the day, some people probably prefer some eds over others, but that's ok too i think
[02:41:21] <goodie> i see it a bit like a review process for research to some extent
[02:41:40] <cmn32480> but much much faster
[02:41:50] <goodie> no kidding
[02:41:53] <charon> heh
[02:41:57] <cmn32480> if we took as much time as needed for some stuff, we''d push out 2 atrticles a day
[02:42:09] <goodie> ok question: I created a story but it remains yellow. is it because it has not been checked by anybody else?
[02:42:25] <cmn32480> we will pass on subs that require too much editing
[02:42:32] <cmn32480> correct
[02:42:51] <cmn32480> especially when the number of eds has dwoindled as much as it has lately
[02:43:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, if half the noobs stick it out you'll be able to take a vacation soon
[02:43:39] <cmn32480> WOOT QOOT!
[02:43:44] * TheMightyBuzzard is back and armed with febreeze
[02:43:57] <cmn32480> goodie - wher did you save this story? I don't see it in the story queue
[02:44:16] <cmn32480> or si it the RCMP one?
[02:44:16] <goodie> on dev, in stories, i shows as #8 for me
[02:44:20] <goodie> RCMP story
[02:44:28] <cmn32480> got it
[02:44:33] <cmn32480> Red for me since it wasn't mine
[02:44:45] <charon> if I make it through training, i am usually up until 3-4am EDT so I can do overnight stuff. which i understand is kind of a big hole
[02:44:55] <cmn32480> he buzzard
[02:45:14] <cmn32480> overnight stuff is done by the time I go to bed at 11.
[02:45:26] <cmn32480> the overnight editing is programming for the following day/evening
[02:45:33] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - ping
[02:45:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[02:45:41] <cmn32480> seeing somethgin weird
[02:45:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:45:50] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[02:46:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, forgot sd links don't work
[02:46:06] <cmn32480> when I look at the RCMP story on dev in the story view, the title is all uncapped like it was originally
[02:46:15] <cmn32480> when I go to edit it is capped correctly
[02:46:29] <goodie> weird, i just saved it again
[02:46:43] <goodie> fine in the story view for me
[02:46:47] * TheMightyBuzzard goes to look
[02:46:50] <cmn32480> now it looks right
[02:46:54] <cmn32480> maybe it was a cahce issue
[02:47:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly
[02:47:14] <goodie> maybe, though I did change it not long ago
[02:47:18] <goodie> so that could be it
[02:47:19] <cmn32480> but I am logged in so that shoudl not have mattered
[02:47:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~blame
[02:47:30] * exec points at Bytram
[02:47:35] <goodie> maybe you caught between 2 refreshes or something
[02:47:38] <cmn32480> as sound a plan as any
[02:48:04] <charon> goodie: where's the link to the commentary article? i only see a link to the bill
[02:48:23] <cmn32480> what happened to the original sub missino link?
[02:48:39] <goodie> lol I kinda cut that by mistake... does that make me look bad ;0 ?
[02:48:44] <charon> heheh
[02:48:48] <cmn32480> they are in there for good reason
[02:49:08] <cmn32480> tough for me to tell what you did w/o it
[02:49:39] <cmn32480> that was a big debate for us
[02:50:05] <cmn32480> giving the community the ability to see the original sub showed some of the complete crap that we get in.
[02:50:48] <cmn32480> it also put an almost complete full stop on people bitching that we chewed up the articles and their summary so badly that we changed the slant that they had on it and we all suck ed and shoudl go die in a fire
[02:51:19] <charon> i remember that furor
[02:51:24] <cmn32480> so do I
[02:51:30] <charon> i have been lurking since the beginning
[02:51:33] <cmn32480> it was one of my edits that started it
[02:51:37] <charon> oooooh
[02:51:48] <cmn32480> was a gewg_/OO story
[02:51:59] <cmn32480> and FYI gewg_ and Original owner are the same guy
[02:52:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> which almost always deserves having the slant removed
[02:52:23] <charon> that's an advanced topic, no doubt
[02:52:25] <goodie> fixed that stupid missing ling
[02:52:41] <goodie> oh that's why the link to OO points to a comment that refers to gewg...
[02:52:49] <cmn32480> correct
[02:53:04] <cmn32480> that si the we reserved a nick for him but he refuses to use it
[02:53:24] <cmn32480> so there is not much sympathy from the staff when people sign his name to stuff
[02:53:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> which makes zero sense since his ip is just as logged when he signs his posts as if he'd logged in
[02:53:56] <charon> but since his identity is secret... he could be any one of us
[02:54:08] <charon> ~blame
[02:54:09] * exec points at Bytram
[02:54:12] <goodie> are we playing Clue?
[02:54:29] <goodie> Mustard with a lead pipe
[02:54:36] <cmn32480> It was bytram in #editorial with an NC novel
[02:54:36] * TheMightyBuzzard bets on takyon in the library with the chainsaw
[02:54:53] <cmn32480> is that a double barrel chainsaw?
[02:54:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, where's takyon been lately?
[02:55:03] <cmn32480> unknown
[02:55:10] <cmn32480> same as bytram
[02:55:14] <chromas> It's an assault chainsaw with 30-round magazine
[02:55:33] <cmn32480> but takyon subbed a couple of his usual check the links and post quality
[02:55:35] <charon> sounds like a warhammer 40k weapon
[02:55:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> well Bytram|away has been busy with work mostly. has black friday coming up very soon and he works in retail.
[02:55:48] <cmn32480> yup
[02:55:58] <goodie> oh man i feel for the guy. must be a nightmare
[02:56:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> was my #fite weapon for a lil while
[02:56:04] <cmn32480> takyon is both an editor adn a prolific submitter
[02:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> troof
[02:56:23] <cmn32480> and his subs are A++ quality stuff
[02:56:35] <charon> also takyon is the author of the super awesome GM script
[02:56:42] <cmn32480> also correct
[02:57:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ssshhhh, nobody tell cmn32480 that he got the "smiled on by the gods" thing this time around
[02:57:15] <cmn32480> there is a greasemonkey script in one of his journal entries that is a fine fine blessing for the editorial staff
[02:57:29] <goodie> alright people, time to hit the sack for me
[02:57:33] <goodie> ~gnight everybody
[02:57:34] * exec defiantly ships a trunkload of hamster dance with everybody
[02:57:37] <charon> gnight goodie
[02:57:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight goodie
[02:57:40] * exec implicitly tosses an anvil of bile to goodie
[02:57:43] <cmn32480> ~gnight goodie
[02:57:44] * exec seductively evolves a training bra of $insert_beverage_here from goodie
[02:57:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> HAMSTER DANCE!
[02:57:59] <cmn32480> #YT hamster dance
[02:58:05] <charon> i will never get that "song" out of my head
[02:58:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt hamster dance 2.0
[02:58:07] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[02:58:27] <goodie> noice, now I won't sleep
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[02:59:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon, you know where it came from? disney robin hood animated movie. alan-a-dale the chicken sped up to double speed.
[02:59:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> which was also the feller who sang "king of the road" but i forget his name
[02:59:41] <charon> holy... i had no idea
[03:00:14] <charon> mind = blown
[03:00:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> was watching that movie sometime after it went viral and was like WTF
[03:01:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> so i did some sound editing and it was a spot on match
[03:01:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, nice hit. 20 points and not a crit
[03:02:51] <cmn32480> suicide by FatPhil
[03:02:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. he needs the help.
[03:03:35] <cmn32480> anythign else I can ddo to help tonight charon?
[03:03:45] * cmn32480 yawns
[03:03:45] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into cmn32480's gaping mouth
[03:04:08] * cmn32480 cchokes on the skittle and spits it back at MrPlow
[03:04:55] <charon> i think i'm good. I'll keep practicing, but I may need some advanced guidance in things like tone/slant
[03:05:15] <cmn32480> you all will get that
[03:05:28] <cmn32480> once you get the hang of the interface and what a finished sub should look like,
[03:05:34] <cmn32480> pull Takyon's script too
[03:05:44] <cmn32480> it'll help now that you know what a pita the interface can be
[03:05:53] <charon> as i edit, i've been looking at live sumissions to compare
[03:06:01] <cmn32480> good
[03:06:24] <cmn32480> ah shit... I just tried t load takyon's user page
[03:06:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> those are live submissions, just from like a year or whatever ago
[03:06:32] * cmn32480 knows better than that
[03:06:54] * TheMightyBuzzard cackles
[03:06:59] <charon> i mean finished things on the real front page. so i know what i'm aiming at
[03:07:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[03:07:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> hit his journal page not his user page
[03:07:28] <cmn32480> if you search the title.. you can see what the ACTUAL original article looked like
[03:07:40] <cmn32480> it actually loaded ok
[03:07:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[03:07:51] <charon> that would taint my interpretation. but i am curious now that i've done a couple
[03:08:04] <cmn32480> after you complete it
[03:08:07] <charon> right
[03:08:28] * charon is irrevocably tainted.
[03:08:42] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[03:08:45] <exec> └─ 13Journal of takyon (881)
[03:08:54] <cmn32480> that's the GM script
[03:09:12] * TheMightyBuzzard now has the hamster dance on repeat for ambiance
[03:09:22] <cmn32480> #smake TheMightyBuzzard
[03:09:22] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard upside the head with an onion
[03:09:23] <charon> you are an evil person
[03:09:40] * cmn32480 mutes his speakers just in case
[03:10:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooooh! i should fire up my pirate radio station again.
[03:10:00] <cmn32480> al right gang.. I'm off to bed
[03:10:08] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:10:10] * exec abrasively poops a scrote of naval lint for TheMightyBuzzard
[03:10:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> all hamster dance all the time!
[03:10:12] <cmn32480> ~gnight charon
[03:10:14] * exec sexually requisitions an assload of black holes for charon
[03:10:15] <charon> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:10:17] * exec hideously generates a small script that substitutes a potion of leeloo dallas multi-pass for cmn32480
[03:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:10:25] * exec buttmagically connects a udp packet of dag to cmn32480
[03:10:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> moolti-pass!
[03:10:37] <charon> an assload of black holes...
[03:10:43] <cmn32480> naval lint!
[03:10:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like dags
[03:11:06] <cmn32480> ~define dag
[03:11:07] <exec> [local] dag: a dog you pikey
[03:11:28] <cmn32480> ~define naval lint
[03:11:29] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03naval lint: The fluff or lint that you get in your belly button, Always blue in colour regardless of t-shirt/shirt colour. There are many theories on this topic, One being that the colour of the lint is in corre...
[03:11:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~define farticle
[03:11:41] <exec> [local] farticle: What you call one tiny bubble out of all the bubbles when you fart in the tub.
[03:11:50] <charon> i am appalled by this misspelling
[03:12:19] <cmn32480> you'll get used to it
[03:12:22] <cmn32480> I'm out
[03:12:36] <cmn32480> at a customer site tomorrow all day and likely Friday as well
[03:12:41] <cmn32480> I'll be here evenings only
[03:12:42] <charon> take care
[03:12:50] <cmn32480> zz_janrinok Bytram|away ^^^^^
[03:13:02] <cmn32480> hey, at least this one is local
[03:13:09] <cmn32480> sleep in my own bed
[03:13:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> woah, score. enjoy
[03:13:22] * cmn32480 spends a lot of time in hotels and on airplanes
[03:13:44] <charon> sounds unpleasant
[03:13:45] <cmn32480> speaking of which... my wife is already up there...
[03:13:49] <charon> go go
[03:13:53] <cmn32480> no she's really quite nice
[03:14:03] <charon> ...
[03:15:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh yeah, bedtime. completely didn't notice. nite.
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[13:09:32] <cmn32480> janrinok_afk - ping
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[13:21:16] <janrinok> pong
[13:21:48] <janrinok> cmn32480, pong
[13:23:17] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[13:23:19] * exec cautiously ejaculates some chewy chunks of Khyber's AC LEDs at janrinok
[13:23:32] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480
[13:23:35] * exec homogeneously coalesces a bowl of cold pizza with cmn32480
[13:23:39] <cmn32480> I'm heading out to a customer site in about 90 minutes for the remainder of the day and most of tomorrow as well.
[13:25:22] <janrinok> yeah I saw your message from before you logged off
[13:25:29] <cmn32480> ok
[13:25:32] <cmn32480> oh that's right
[13:25:40] <cmn32480> forgot I put that up
[13:26:15] <janrinok> but you get back to your own bed... Any views on the other questions I asked in that pm?
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[13:54:34] <Bytram> janrinok: am over here
[13:54:46] <Bytram> nah, just today
[13:54:50] <janrinok> OK. I'm here too
[13:55:22] <Bytram> cmn32480: !!
[13:55:29] <janrinok> I was just having a pm with cmn32480 - I would like to have one with you too sometime when you can spare 15-10 minutes
[13:55:59] <Bytram> can't you type faster than that? ;)
[13:56:12] <Bytram> give me 5 minutes or so?
[13:56:31] <janrinok> no rush, whenever it suits you.
[13:56:52] <Bytram> let me rephrase... let me take a five or so minute break to re-coffee and I could be available then
[13:57:00] <Bytram> I know your hours are limited, too.
[13:57:04] <Bytram> btw ((( S )))
[13:57:08] <Bytram> brb
[13:57:11] <janrinok> I'll get a cup of tea - I've got plenty of time today
[14:02:21] <Bytram> back
[14:02:40] <Bytram> I've got about 15 minutes and then need to retrieve laundry
[14:02:55] <Bytram> holdon phone call
[14:03:13] <cmn32480> peopel still use phones for talking??? wow... how stone age
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[15:11:18] <janrinok> anybody around wanting some training time?
[15:11:28] * cmn32480 runs for a customer site
[15:22:09] * Bytram looks around for his old Lionel
[15:22:12] <Bytram> ;)
[15:25:53] <janrinok> who?
[15:26:12] <janrinok> ah, with you now... :)
[15:26:55] <Bytram> LOL!
[15:28:38] <janrinok> have you had a busy week?
[15:28:51] <Bytram> yeah. worked 6 days straight
[15:29:09] <Bytram> you want I should leve some stories int he sub queue, or should I go ahead and push out a few?
[15:29:19] <janrinok> and it stays like this until January?
[15:29:30] <Bytram> nah, this is the 'easy' time
[15:29:34] <janrinok> oh, push em out, it is just the usual bunch for now
[15:29:38] <Bytram> k
[15:29:46] <janrinok> but don't bust a gut.
[15:30:08] <Bytram> ~g bust a gut
[15:30:10] <exec> [google] idioms.thefreedictionary.com/bust+a+gut
[15:30:46] <janrinok> don't overdo things - rest days are meant for that very purpose - resting
[15:31:15] <Bytram> nodnod
[15:31:32] <Bytram> feels good to push out a few stories and have a sense of having accomplished *something* for the day
[15:31:46] <Bytram> besides making coffee, doing laundry, adn the other mundane stuff
[15:31:57] <janrinok> yeah, I was just going to mention that
[15:31:57] <Bytram> ;)
[15:32:05] <Bytram> IOW, procrastination, with a purpose
[15:32:11] <Bytram> =)
[15:32:12] <janrinok> sort of...
[15:32:23] <Bytram> oh, and mouse is happy now that I fed it some new batteries
[15:32:50] <janrinok> I hoped it would be. I was feeling quite concerned for the poor thing
[15:33:10] <Bytram> Squeeeeeek!
[15:33:16] <Bytram> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[15:33:18] <exec> └─ 13Stolen passwords integrated into the ultimate dictionary attack • The Register
[15:33:22] <janrinok> ~tell charon check your messages on dev
[15:33:23] <Bytram> https://regmedia.co.uk
[15:33:50] <Bytram> Using a targeted password-guessing framework named TarGuess, the researchers achieved success rates as high as 73 per cent with just 100 guesses against typical users, and as high as 32 per cent against security-savvy users.
[15:33:54] <janrinok> ~tell soylentsnow check your messages on dev
[15:34:11] <Bytram> heh
[15:34:17] <Bytram> Soylents Now? ;)
[15:34:33] <Bytram> caitalization can be imporant
[15:34:39] <Bytram> s/ant/tant/
[15:34:40] <exec> <Bytram> caitalization can be important
[15:34:46] <janrinok> ~tell goodie check you messages on dev
[15:34:53] <janrinok> fair point -
[15:34:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> speeling can too
[15:35:18] <Bytram> didn't he direct some movie or something?
[15:35:45] <Bytram> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[15:35:47] <exec> └─ 13CERN boffins see strange ... oh, wait, that's just New Zealand moving 2m north • The Register
[15:35:50] <janrinok> ~tell sea how's your training going? Do you want some help?
[15:35:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, she was that chick on 90210 back in the day. the not hot one.
[15:35:59] <Bytram> LOL!
[15:36:16] <Bytram> nah, that was a WW II movie... Tori! Tori! Tori!
[15:36:26] <janrinok> I wish I was up to date, or even out of date, with US celebs
[15:36:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought that was about bull fighting
[15:36:42] * Bytram never watched the show, but apparently it was popular
[15:36:54] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Toushay
[15:36:58] * janrinok notes Bytram's back-peddling
[15:37:39] <Bytram> Last two year's tv viewing: the last two Superb Owls and a couple of weather forecasts, and two debates.
[15:37:51] <Bytram> noise > bandwidth o/w
[15:38:07] <Bytram> besides, would rather waist my time hear
[15:38:17] <janrinok> brb nursey time
[15:38:18] <janrinok> ']
[15:38:25] <Bytram> l8rs
[16:10:15] <FatPhil> janrinok: "Author .." at https://dev.soylentnews.org
[16:10:19] <exec> └─ 13- Dev.SN User
[16:15:25] <FatPhil> well, there's one mistake I can see already...
[16:17:34] <FatPhil> how do I change the /dev/random?
[16:17:46] <Bytram> FatPhil: just a sec
[16:18:06] * FatPhil jumps back into his megapatch
[16:18:14] <Bytram> FatPhil: I'm ready
[16:22:19] <Bytram> Just above the bold text that says "This story will be on the The Main Page" is the topic editor... it has a strange but manageable UI. To delete "/dev/random/" from the list, click on it, and then click on the "X" control (2nd from the op on the Right-Hand Side). To add a Topic, click on "-^- Topics -^-", then click on the "+" and a new dialog will pop up. Click on the letters to see the choice of topics, when you see one that you
[16:22:19] <Bytram> want to use displayed, clic on it, and then click the Add button. Repeat as wanted. Lastly,
[16:23:07] <Bytram> click on the new topic in the list and use the "^" and "v" controls to move its location on the list.
[16:23:49] <Bytram> You want the new topic(s) to appear immediately above the text "-^- Topics -^-"
[16:24:21] <Bytram> oops, the UI is a little different on DEV.
[16:24:25] <janrinok> S says {{{bytram}}}
[16:25:40] <Bytram> correction, on DEV it displays a tree of choices, click on one you want, click add, repeat as desired, then click "Close" to dismiss the dialog.
[16:30:25] <Bytram> janrinok: thanks
[16:31:17] <janrinok> FatPhil, I'm happy with that story, do you feel confident enough to move to our prod system?
[16:36:58] <FatPhil> OK, I wondered what those icons were for. Fixed.
[16:37:20] <FatPhil> If you're happywith me being on prod, then I'm happy being on prod.
[16:39:17] * FatPhil -> walking home...
[16:40:44] <Bytram> janrinok: ^^^
[16:46:07] <Bytram> afk biab
[16:54:46] <janrinok> seen - thank
[16:54:52] <janrinok> thanks*
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[18:05:44] * Bytram waves hello to AzumaHazuki
[18:06:46] <Bytram> http://phys.org
[18:06:48] <exec> └─ 13Verizon's AOL cutting 500 jobs, will focus on mobile, video
[18:09:51] <AzumaHazuki> Hello, Bytram :0
[18:10:19] <Bytram> Greetings and welcome to the wonderful world of playing with words for fun and prophet!
[18:10:46] <Bytram> (the amateur phets will come along later)
[18:10:53] <Bytram> ;)
[18:11:14] <AzumaHazuki> i still need a couple of days to finish eating the wiki
[18:11:25] <AzumaHazuki> 2 jobs plus extracurriculars is hard on a girl, lol
[18:11:31] * Bytram points at a bottle of antacids
[18:12:17] <Bytram> appreciate your willingness to help out, especially with the existing heavy load.
[18:12:53] <AzumaHazuki> they said i was writing at a college level in third grade. that's...sad
[18:12:54] <Bytram> we each help as we can and, surprisingly, that has been sufficient (though at times barely so) for over 2 1/2 years.
[18:13:33] <Bytram> heh! Looks like we just turned 1007 days old!
[18:19:13] <janrinok> Bytram, the link to 'drone experts' in your domino story points to SN, and therefore 404s. I am looking for the correct link but can't find it
[18:19:30] <Bytram> just a sec
[18:20:21] <Bytram> thanksfully, I'd not refereshed my sub queue in one tab
[18:20:33] <janrinok> found - and fixed
[18:20:55] <Bytram> nice!
[18:21:05] <Bytram> was wrong in original sub
[18:21:33] <Bytram> as a plus, P666 seems to be trying to include links in his subs instead of copy/paste just the text.
[18:22:12] <janrinok> yes, but he needs to check for abbreviated links - they assume that the page domain is the source of the link
[18:22:56] <CoolHand> yeah, janrinok and I ran across some of those the other day too..
[18:22:58] * Bytram has made that mistake a few times
[18:23:24] <Bytram> janrinok++ good catch!
[18:23:24] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 44
[18:23:46] <Bytram> time to make lunch... biab
[18:24:07] <janrinok> lunch? I've just finished dinner
[18:25:09] <janrinok> ~gday CoolHand, how's things?
[18:25:10] * exec homogeneously allocates a ⅓ cup of purple drank for CoolHand,
[18:26:07] <AzumaHazuki> ...we have a sizzurp-dispensing channel bot?
[18:26:10] <AzumaHazuki> this changes everything
[18:26:25] <AzumaHazuki> mostly by slowing everything way the hell down
[18:26:39] <janrinok> we have bots for loads of things - most pointless
[18:26:43] <janrinok> #weather
[18:26:44] <MrPlow> Today: Cloudy, periods of rain. Lows overnight in the low 40s. Tomorrow: Overcast with rain showers at times. Thunder possible. High 49F. Winds WSW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
[18:26:47] <janrinok> ~weather
[18:26:49] <exec> 10Paimpol, France - currently 53°F / 12°C, rain, wind SW at 17 mph, humidity 88% - Thursday rain (43°F:57°F / 6°C:14°C), Friday showers (42°F:49°F / 6°C:9°C), Saturday showers (46°F:50°F / 8°C:10°C), Sunday scattered showers (45°F:51°F / 7°C:11°C)
[18:26:58] <janrinok> !uid
[18:26:58] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6410, owned by Magneto
[18:27:34] <janrinok> ~tell AzumaHazuki see we even have a bot for this too
[18:28:24] <AzumaHazuki> impressive
[18:28:37] <AzumaHazuki> boredom and perl are an terrible and wonderful combination
[18:28:59] <janrinok> but if it keeps Buzzard out of our hair, we are happy :)
[18:29:45] <AzumaHazuki> ...yeah, no love lost between me and him
[18:30:23] <janrinok> Hazuki, don't fret the wiki - it is not the best way of learning how things work, we will talk you through it all once you are ready
[18:30:26] <AzumaHazuki> I know, "professional demeanor" and all that, but the guy's a folding chair, a basket of sandwiches, several checkered blankets, and an entire colony of ants short of a picnic
[18:30:46] <janrinok> I'm sure he things the world of you too
[18:30:58] <janrinok> thinks*
[18:31:14] * janrinok notes that he has adopted cmn32480's typing technique
[18:31:58] <AzumaHazuki> well, dunno if "thinks" is the right word in this context :)
[18:33:37] <janrinok> at some time in the future, and if you are content to do so, I would like to chat to you about the anti-trafficking work that you are involved in.
[18:33:57] <AzumaHazuki> it's nothing official; i am not working with any group. mostly i'm just trying to keep one poor survivor friend alive
[18:34:09] <janrinok> still a noble cause
[18:34:13] <AzumaHazuki> the NGOs set up for this purpose are almost unviersally frauds, and have a terrible religious problem
[18:34:32] <janrinok> I've seen that in the past when I was working with refugees
[18:34:47] <janrinok> there are some good ones but lots of bad ones too
[18:34:58] <AzumaHazuki> this stuff has made me very, very existentially tired.
[18:35:27] <janrinok> this might not be the job for you :) We aren't famous for having an easy life!
[18:35:38] <AzumaHazuki> oh this is a vacation by comparison
[18:35:56] <janrinok> I hope it stays that way for you
[18:36:00] <AzumaHazuki> just, overall, i feel about 200 or 300 years old in terms of world-weariness
[18:36:08] <janrinok> got it
[18:36:19] <AzumaHazuki> i've seen so many horrible things, watched so many friends suffer, saw some of them die...
[18:36:40] <janrinok> me too, but I was being paid for it
[18:36:57] <AzumaHazuki> makes you just want to lie down, go to sleep, and never wake up, doesn't it...?
[18:37:08] <AzumaHazuki> except you can't because people are counting on you
[18:37:23] <janrinok> I was collecting evidence of war atrocities in Bosnia, and later in Iraq
[18:37:44] <AzumaHazuki> chriiiiiist ><
[18:38:05] <janrinok> Had to interview scores of survivors, exhume the bodies of lots of the dead, and photograph the locations and places of all of the worst kind of events
[18:38:35] <AzumaHazuki> you saw all the torture then...what happens to a body's joints and skin and bones...
[18:38:53] <janrinok> so I can empathise with you, although no two people have the same experiences
[18:39:18] <janrinok> yep, and more which is not for repeating on an open channel such as this
[18:39:21] <AzumaHazuki> yours sound a lot worse overall. i haven't had to deal with too many cases of torture and none in a war sense
[18:39:51] <janrinok> I doubt it, just different from yours
[18:40:02] <AzumaHazuki> this shit is why i have zero patience, none, for ideologues and people who would put some supposed "principle" above actually helping people
[18:40:35] * Bytram returns from preparing lunch, scrolls back, and O_O
[18:40:48] <Bytram> helping_people++
[18:40:48] <Bender> karma - helping_people: 1
[18:40:56] <janrinok> eat your lunch before reading Bytram
[18:41:10] <Bytram> won't be readyfor another 10 or so minutes
[18:41:28] <AzumaHazuki> and now it's all about to go to hell in the US...
[18:41:35] <janrinok> well, I suspect neither of us will go into detail here
[18:41:42] <AzumaHazuki> I've got an FtM trans friend who tells me he's terrified to walk in the halls of his own school now
[18:42:05] <AzumaHazuki> he says the day after he election people were rallying in the halls outright saying only straight whites should get the vote
[18:42:14] <janrinok> I'll wait and see on the US side of things, I doubt it will be as bad as the other things that I have seen/dome
[18:42:16] <janrinok> done*
[18:42:29] <AzumaHazuki> well, yes, it's likely never going to get anywhere near as bad as Bosnia or Iraq
[18:42:48] <AzumaHazuki> but, i've seen this show before. the last episode was broadcast in german about 80 years ago. i am not sticking around for it this time
[18:43:02] <janrinok> but it doesn't look good from where I am sitting. Still, I am optimistic that things will calm down soon
[18:43:30] <AzumaHazuki> they're about to get a shitload worse. Mitch McConnel, IIRC, is openly advocating for Muslim registration and cited the Japanese internment of the 40s
[18:43:34] <Bytram> I was initially terrified of what may come after all the ideology, xenophobia, misogyny, and that ilk that was uttered during the election; my hope is that reality will intervene and a more centrist view will emerge.
[18:44:19] <Bytram> from what I've seen over the years, the pendulum swings too far one way and then the other.
[18:44:39] <Bytram> hoefully, this is the point where things start swinging back
[18:44:40] <janrinok> It's not my place to judge US politics, but I hope that Trump's recent more-measured approach will have some calming effect
[18:44:43] <Bytram> *hopefully
[18:44:46] <AzumaHazuki> i'm just glad i can pass for straight (because, y'know, femme lesbians aren't a thing. except in porn where they're the only thing)
[18:45:18] <janrinok> oh really (he says, feigning ignorance)
[18:45:40] <Bytram> *people* have feelings and emotions, no matter what orientation they may have.
[18:46:05] <AzumaHazuki> really, aside from being rather poor i'm not in that bad a place
[18:46:41] <janrinok> I used to have a lesbian in my employ when collecting evidence. She was able to get some victims to open up to her where no man could, nor could some other women. She made a significant contribution
[18:47:16] <AzumaHazuki> i don't think humanity's gonna last more than another 100 years or so.
[18:47:27] <Bytram> okay, there may be a few folks who lack the *ability* to feel compassion / empathy... but if I make the time and come to understand, as best as I am able, where people are coming from (and allow them to get to know *me*), I have found we are not all that much different
[18:47:40] <janrinok> I think I will try to remain a little more optimistic than that ..
[18:47:56] <AzumaHazuki> throw that hope away. it's a dangerous drug. reality is what it is.
[18:48:44] <janrinok> Haz, if you knew more about my current situation, you would know that I have to survive on hope in my personal life
[18:48:49] <Bytram> and my perception of reality is based on where I most focus my attention... there are still plenty of very fine people in this world....
[18:49:03] <janrinok> I've met quite a few of them here
[18:49:04] <Bytram> they may not be as vocal as the others, but they are still thee.
[18:49:06] <Bytram> *there
[18:49:13] <Bytram> and here, yes!
[18:49:28] <AzumaHazuki> there aren't enough of us an we don't have enough power.
[18:49:34] <Bytram> Just had a customer yesterday who asked for some help reading the price on an item... said her eyesight wasn't good.
[18:49:41] <janrinok> I'm not trying to change the world
[18:49:43] <Bytram> and then learned she was 101 years old.
[18:49:45] <Bytram> !!
[18:49:48] <AzumaHazuki> the thing about the pendulum is, if you keep swinging it harder and harder, eventually the shank breaks
[18:50:00] <AzumaHazuki> this is a classic case of a positive feedback loop bursting the conditions that enable it'
[18:50:20] <janrinok> Bytram, don't you go giving her the business profits!
[18:50:30] <AzumaHazuki> i've been sensing the edges of the timeline blowing in the temporal wind...the last time it was this bad was 11 Sept 2001
[18:50:44] <janrinok> we got through that
[18:50:59] <AzumaHazuki> the strands of time earthed themselves, yes...but we are much worse for it
[18:50:59] <Bytram> we're still getting through that
[18:51:20] * Bytram glares at the reality which is the PATRIOT act and others.
[18:51:35] <janrinok> and I don't 'feel' things the way you do Haz. I try to make a difference around me, but others have to do their bit wherever they are
[18:52:03] <AzumaHazuki> janrinok: yeah it's a blessing and a curse. i don't see or hear well but i've got all sorts of bizarre intuitive half-senses
[18:52:14] <janrinok> I don't carry a guilt for other people's actions
[18:52:15] <Bytram> I sense that we are on the edge of one celebrity's experience of the downsides of mass data accumulation for a sudden change in perspective to pervasive surveillance
[18:52:23] <AzumaHazuki> i keep spooking co-workers by pulling questions out of their heads before they ask them
[18:52:29] <Bytram> LOL!
[18:52:31] <AzumaHazuki> not doing it on purpose :/
[18:52:40] <Bytram> yep, I've done that, too.
[18:53:06] <AzumaHazuki> do you ever get that thing where you "remember" something that hasn't happened yet and a few minutes later it does?
[18:53:06] <CoolHand> we're not gonna b this serious in here all the time now are we??
[18:53:28] <janrinok> I doubt it - you've just turned up :)
[18:53:33] <Bytram> CoolHand: ^^^
[18:53:38] <CoolHand> *whew*
[18:53:39] <CoolHand> :)
[18:53:57] <janrinok> having a good one, CH?
[18:53:58] <AzumaHazuki> sorry...the inside of my head is a sad place sometimes
[18:54:10] <CoolHand> not too bad...
[18:54:15] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: not quite like that, but I am extremely sensitive to my surroundings and tend to perceive things which are opaque to others.
[18:54:16] * CoolHand knocks on wood
[18:54:33] * Bytram hears a woodpecker looking for his lunch...
[18:54:38] <Bytram> oh wait! brb
[18:54:39] <Bytram> =)
[18:54:49] <janrinok> that's his lunch in flames then
[18:55:36] <janrinok> Haz, we banter quite a bit between us, it goes with the job.
[18:55:50] <janrinok> just go with it
[18:56:03] <Bytram> go go gophers?
[18:56:05] <AzumaHazuki> do you think being too attuned to this kind of thing makes a person a little nuts...?
[18:56:14] <CoolHand> make u GO nutz...
[18:56:19] <janrinok> it's made me more than a little nuts
[18:56:32] <AzumaHazuki> i'm in a permanent state of partial ego-death. feels like "my" mind isn't really mine, more of a public space
[18:56:35] <Bytram> in my experience it provides an opportunity... it's all how I choose to fdeal with it
[18:56:39] <Bytram> *deal
[18:56:50] <janrinok> but, like you, I volunteered to work here. No sane person would, would they?
[18:56:57] <AzumaHazuki> well, yes, i'm using this for good, but it feels like maybe i wasn't supposed to have some of this insight before death, you know...?
[18:56:58] * Bytram wipes his feet and apologizes
[18:57:53] <janrinok> Haz, just don't let your personal views creep into the stories that you edit and we'll get along fine :)
[18:58:10] <AzumaHazuki> right. i know not to do that, which is one reason i'll mostly focus on the scientific and tech stuff
[18:58:18] <Bytram> with such an onslaught of perceptions and feelings, one can either go mad, or (in my case) struggle to coninually make sense of the onrush and grow in the process
[18:58:35] <janrinok> ... and go a little bit mad as well
[18:58:43] <Bytram> get smarter or go mad --- is hard at times
[18:58:51] <Bytram> ye
[18:58:54] <Bytram> yep
[18:59:26] <AzumaHazuki> i wonder if it's made me somewhat not-human. and if this is an entirely bad thing
[18:59:29] <janrinok> just checking the queues, we are about 6 hours or more ahead
[18:59:57] <janrinok> I think you might be losing me in this conversation
[19:00:04] <Bytram> but, had I not had those experiences over the years, I'd noit be who *I* am today; I'm by no means perfect, but I'm okay with where I am atm, and have hope to continue to grow
[19:00:19] <CoolHand> AzumaHazuki: prolly a good thing.... humans generally suck
[19:00:37] <janrinok> you doing good, bytram, if our views count for anything
[19:00:41] * AzumaHazuki nods
[19:00:46] <Bytram> mare sea
[19:00:54] <Bytram> =)
[19:00:55] <AzumaHazuki> just got to keep on going, every day, till you can't anymore...
[19:01:18] <Bytram> little did I suspect how much i would *learn* being an editor on this site...
[19:01:32] <AzumaHazuki> keep a song in your heart and a light in your eye...even if it's a sad song and a dim, flickering light
[19:01:47] <Bytram> not just facts and stuff like that, but how to deal with people, accept them, their views, meet them where they are, and
[19:01:55] <Bytram> also to grow a slightly thicker sk9in.
[19:02:10] <Bytram> music++
[19:02:10] <Bender> karma - music: 1
[19:02:22] <janrinok> CoolHand, when we move the first batch on new volunteers onto prod, they will still need quite a bit of hand-holding. Will you be able to help whenever you are around. I will be concentrating on the next batch, but will still be around too
[19:02:37] <janrinok> we aim to get some moved over for the weekend
[19:03:08] <CoolHand> I'll of course be glad to do what I can when I can... I'll have some w/e availabililty although not a lot..
[19:03:08] <janrinok> they know the mechanics, but not so much the whys, hows, and practicalities of the job
[19:03:34] <janrinok> grateful for anything you can do to help
[19:04:40] <Bytram> I'll assist as I can
[19:06:15] <janrinok> thanks Bytram - I rely on you guys
[19:06:38] <Bytram> teamwork++
[19:06:38] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 119
[19:07:02] <janrinok> AzumaHazuki, what got you interested in science and tech?
[19:08:00] <AzumaHazuki> i always liked them...at age 18 months i was apparently making patterned mandalas with shaped/colored blocks
[19:08:07] * janrinok notes that it is time for a cup of tea
[19:08:09] <AzumaHazuki> always wanted to know how and why things worked
[19:08:20] <Bytram> same here
[19:08:23] <Bytram> curiosity++
[19:08:24] <Bender> karma - curiosity: 1
[19:08:27] <janrinok> in a practical sense, or more theoretical?
[19:08:40] <AzumaHazuki> both :)
[19:08:59] <AzumaHazuki> if you believe my diploma i'm a geologist, though i have done no geology since graduation
[19:09:07] <janrinok> I used to take old tvs apart and then make things with the bits
[19:09:36] <Bytram> ZZAAPP!!!
[19:09:49] <janrinok> that's a good subject to have a grounding in -tish, ba-dum
[19:10:24] <janrinok> beware, they get worse ...
[19:10:48] <AzumaHazuki> ye gods, call the containment team...we have a chronic pranomasiac on the loose
[19:10:49] <Bytram> I dunno, that was pretty low
[19:11:08] <AzumaHazuki> (don't worry, i love puns :D)
[19:11:36] <janrinok> so why didn't you follow up a career in geology?
[19:11:44] <Bytram> yore in good company, then
[19:12:54] <AzumaHazuki> janrinok: went to a big oil money school. was into thorium and solar. didn't know i was in a big oil money school. talked to advisor about thorium. once.
[19:12:58] <AzumaHazuki> no one would touch me
[19:14:52] <janrinok> I've also had a nuclear connection, but I was dropping them rather than building them
[19:15:21] <AzumaHazuki> college was useless. i wish i'd never gone
[19:15:41] <janrinok> but you still have your diploma - you could have taken it somewhere else?
[19:15:55] <AzumaHazuki> i wish i'd taken that National Merit Scholarship, marched it over to the white house, and shoved it so far up Dubya's lying, sagging, flaccid asshole his grandpa Prescott choked on it in Hell
[19:16:17] <janrinok> that made a fairly clear point of that statement :)
[19:16:39] <AzumaHazuki> i try :D
[19:16:50] <janrinok> .. and succeed
[19:17:24] <AzumaHazuki> they say i always had a way with words
[19:17:39] <janrinok> I'm not sure which TZ you are in Haz?
[19:17:44] <AzumaHazuki> CST
[19:17:59] <AzumaHazuki> this is during job #1, which is a computer job, so i can hop on IRC
[19:18:38] * Bytram pretty much only has computer access when home, though, in a pinch can do some things with his mobile
[19:18:43] <janrinok> and what do they think you are doing when you are actually chatting to us?
[19:18:58] <janrinok> editing on a mobile is not easy
[19:19:00] <Bytram> typing?
[19:19:22] <Bytram> janrinok: VERY not easy
[19:19:36] <AzumaHazuki> i multitask like mad
[19:19:47] <AzumaHazuki> several terminals open, lots of them SSH'd into Xen servers and such
[19:20:03] <Bytram> Xen and the art of server maintenance
[19:20:04] <AzumaHazuki> several customer units running memtest or Victoria or whatnot, or doing rsync data recovery
[19:20:40] <janrinok> fortunately, living in the boondocks of France I don't have a mobile. and my internet connnection is wet string pulled taut between my house and the exchange
[19:21:12] <janrinok> AzumaHazuki, I don't know Victoria, but I follow the rest
[19:21:16] <Bytram> janrinok: my internet connection is very much similar, except I am missing the sting
[19:21:20] <Bytram> *string
[19:21:42] <janrinok> I've asked for a bigger tin can for my end as a Christmas present
[19:22:49] <Bytram> janrinok: may I suggest an upgrade to aluminium?
[19:22:56] <janrinok> AzumaHazuki, you have multiple jobs in the same day, or do you split your working week between different jobs?
[19:23:02] <AzumaHazuki> multiples
[19:23:11] <AzumaHazuki> 11-5 is this job, 5:30 to 9:30 is a retail position
[19:23:17] <janrinok> no wonder you are busy
[19:23:28] <AzumaHazuki> also 2:30-9:30 or 10:30 on Saturday is retail
[19:23:57] <Bytram> sigh... don't want to bug out atm, but time for dishes and a nap...
[19:24:05] <AzumaHazuki> victoria is russian freeware which does very thorough surface scan of HDDs
[19:24:15] <janrinok> I'm just trying to get a feel for how often and when you could contribute most, as well as get to know you a little better
[19:24:16] <AzumaHazuki> gives you access time in ms of each cluster
[19:24:22] <janrinok> nap well Bytram
[19:24:27] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: enjoyed chatting and getting to know you (and, btw, I work retail, too -- a different schedule every week.)
[19:24:36] <AzumaHazuki> you too :)
[19:24:43] <AzumaHazuki> hope your nap refreshes you well
[19:24:51] <Bytram> gracias
[19:25:29] <Bytram> after a six-day-in-a-row stretch, as much as I would rather do other things, I need to listen to my body once in a while. =)
[19:25:30] <Bytram> laters
[19:25:40] <AzumaHazuki> o/
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[19:28:21] <janrinok> AzumaHazuki, bytram is good person to turn to for advice about the job here. He also does QA and other roles in addition to being a very good editor
[19:30:06] <janrinok> we have a good team - but we could do with being a bit larger - and everybody makes whatever contribution they can. There is no expectation of a set number of stories per unit of time, we just have to keep the story queues topped up between us
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