#editorial | Logs for 2016-09-03

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[00:14:48] Bytram|away is now known as bytram
[00:15:14] <bytram> .op
[00:15:14] -!- mode/#editorial [+o bytram] by Hephaestus
[00:15:18] <bytram> .topic #editorial is where the cool kids hang out to have meta discussions about stories on SoylentNews | This channel IS logged
[00:15:18] Hephaestus changed topic of #editorial to: #editorial is where the cool kids hang out to have meta discussions about stories on SoylentNews | This channel IS logged
[00:15:20] <bytram> .deop
[00:15:20] -!- mode/#editorial [-o bytram] by Hephaestus
[00:19:39] <takyon> y
[00:25:25] <bytram> y not?
[00:25:28] <bytram> ;)
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[00:26:28] -!- mode/#editorial [+v takyon_] by Hephaestus
[00:27:21] <takyon_> hi bytram
[00:27:28] <bytram> bonjour!
[00:35:07] <Subsentient> What the fuck is this shit
[00:35:09] <Subsentient> https://soylentnews.org
[00:35:10] <CloudShark> ^ 03SN article:  Democratically-Elected Brazilian President's Final Try to Head Off Coup Falls on Deaf Ears 04(0 comments)
[00:35:48] <Subsentient> This is about as biased as you can get. This isn't a state propaganda publication. We're supposed to objectively present the facts and any interesting information, not try to decide people's views for them.
[00:35:50] <bytram> looks to be an article, if I had to take a guess.
[00:35:52] <Subsentient> Disgusting.
[00:36:05] <bytram> sorry, j/k
[00:36:34] <Subsentient> If I wasn't worried about other editors getting pissed, I'd pull the story right now.
[00:37:26] <bytram> I just flagged it as NOT display to givve us more time to decide what to do with it...
[00:37:33] <bytram> am gonna move another story in ...
[00:37:35] <bytram> gimme a bit
[00:38:10] <takyon_> what's going on
[00:38:39] <Subsentient> Someone slipped in an unholy abomination.
[00:38:40] <takyon_> the use of "coup" is probably biased
[00:38:46] <Subsentient> All of this is biased.
[00:38:46] <takyon_> ya it was me
[00:39:07] <Subsentient> takyon_: Shame. The entire story content is written in a heavily biased tone.
[00:39:25] <Subsentient> As I told bytram, we're not a propaganda joint, we don't decide readers' views for them.
[00:39:31] <takyon_> I'm fine with pulling it
[00:39:41] <bytram> given the source, some bias is to be *expected*
[00:40:07] <bytram> but that is beyond the norm, even for him/her... I dunno why I 2nded it so quickly...
[00:40:09] <Subsentient> Yes, you shouldn't publish stories from heavily biased sources, period. Get objective information and facts, not opinions labelled as fact.
[00:40:14] <bytram> on re-read, i'm not liking it either.
[00:40:40] <takyon_> oh, one of you already pulled it
[00:41:19] <Subsentient> Wasn't me.
[00:41:30] <bytram> yeha. made it NOT display
[00:41:38] <bytram> am prepaparing another story to put in the slot atm
[00:41:44] <Subsentient> To be honest, there's been other stories I wanted to heavily edit or pull, but I'm afraid of guys getting pissed at me for doing my job.
[00:42:12] <takyon_> Subsentient, you can just go for it. We get a lot less hate for pulling stories than letting them sneak in
[00:42:26] <takyon_> I pulled the trigger warnings story yesterday because it was a dupe from exactly one year before
[00:42:56] <bytram> artifical delays set to go out in a couple minutes
[00:43:29] <takyon_> I made a journal about pulling the story and nobody commented on it, despite it having a juicy title
[00:43:36] <Subsentient> Yeah come to think of it, in retrospect, concerns of other editors and admins getting pissed at me are why I haven't done much lately.
[00:46:01] <takyon_> i don't know what you're concerned about
[00:46:20] <takyon_> I've never gotten mad at another editor for pulling a story I added, or altering or deleting one of my subs
[00:47:23] <takyon_> I haven't seen any ed/admin get real mad, with the exception of you at the Brazil story, in a long time, and I read almost all of #editorial
[00:47:35] <takyon_> and you are right to be mad at the story, just to clarify
[00:47:36] <bytram> as far as I can recall, I got upset once about a choice in a poll, but other than that, I don't recall getting mad at another editor.
[00:48:03] <Subsentient> takyon_: For whatever reason I'm not really mad at you, but please try to keep things objective and fact-based. :^)
[00:48:10] <bytram> now, the community getting mad at *me* -- I've seen *that* -- and I learned from it.
[00:48:25] <takyon_> Subsentient: I was drinking before I added the story
[00:48:34] <Subsentient> takyon_: Ahh, there's your problem.
[00:48:39] <Subsentient> No drinking and editing :^P
[00:48:40] <takyon_> Subsentient: now I got dat hard ginger ale mixed with gin
[00:49:00] <takyon_> it's great because the ABV stays nice and high
[00:49:26] <bytram> pshaw, skip the Ginger, I much prefer Mary Ann!
[00:49:43] <takyon_> ginger lime rickey is the best drink
[00:49:49] <takyon_> gin, ginger ale, lime juice
[00:49:57] <takyon_> could drink that forever
[00:56:47] <takyon_> hey fucks
[00:57:00] <takyon_> do you want me to submit a neutral summary about the brazil junk
[00:57:40] <bytram> would be good
[00:57:58] <takyon_> it's a big story
[00:58:03] <takyon_> gewg_ was just on it
[00:58:08] <takyon_> like a fly
[01:00:06] <bytram> nod nod
[01:00:07] <bytram> break time
[01:05:15] <takyon_> ok Subsentient, there's the neutral version submitted
[01:05:21] <takyon_> get rekt OriginalOwner
[01:27:57] <bytram> takyon: thansks! In the queue
[01:34:47] <takyon_> ffggfgdg'
[01:34:53] <takyon_> logout prevention
[01:35:44] <bytram> was starting to think you'd fallen asleep and had started typing with your head
[01:36:23] <takyon_> nah I just do that in webirc to stop getting logged out, or in regular irc to announce my presence lazily
[01:36:33] <takyon_> as I said in #soylent I'm going all in
[01:36:54] <bytram> 'all i‌to what?
[01:36:58] <bytram> ugh
[01:37:04] <bytram> "all in" ?? Into what?
[01:37:51] <takyon_> vodka
[01:38:18] <bytram> oh
[01:38:57] <takyon_> don't worry, i'm here until you log off or my battery dies
[01:39:14] * bytram is not all here
[01:39:32] <takyon_> sure you aren't
[01:40:35] * bytram is here because I'm not all there.
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[01:48:25] <Bytram|away> ~gnight #editorial
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[14:25:49] <janrinok> Yay - I'm back in again!
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