#editorial | Logs for 2016-08-08

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[15:15:03] <takyon> I just saw a wave of reviews in the sub list
[15:15:13] <takyon> not just from cafebabe, there seems to be one from n1 as well
[15:15:21] <cmn32480> hold them for now
[15:15:24] <takyon> is it time to talk about making a review nexus?
[15:15:42] <cmn32480> that was the question posed over the weekend when nobody was here
[15:15:53] <takyon> mmk
[15:16:08] <takyon> obviously if we do run these, 1 a day would probably be a good balance
[15:16:22] <takyon> and I think we have a reviews topic that would be fine if we don't get the nexus in good time
[15:16:43] <takyon> gonna submit something now
[15:17:53] <takyon> oh shit, did someone release a 12 TB drive?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:18:20] <takyon> not quite
[15:18:24] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
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[15:18:26] <exec> └─ 13The Week In Storage: WD Rolls 10TB HDD, Seagate retorts with 12TB, HDD Vendors Retreat
[15:18:29] <yo_momma> ^ 03The Week In Storage: WD Rolls 10TB HDD, Seagate retorts with 12TB, HDD Vendors Retreat
[15:19:05] <cmn32480> ~title off
[15:19:06] <exec> titles disabled for 10#editorial
[15:19:27] <takyon> speak of the devil
[16:59:18] <cmn32480> ~eds Is it time to start looking at a "Reviews" nexus, or perhaps topic? we currently have 6 sitting in the submission queue. Thoughts? Ponderings? Pontifications?
[16:59:20] <exec> editor ping for cmn32480 (reason: is it time to start looking at a "reviews" nexus, or perhaps topic? we currently have 6 sitting in the submission queue. thoughts? ponderings? pontifications?): janrinok LaminatorX n1 nick martyb Bytram Azrael mrcoolbp cmn32480 coolhand takyon cmn32480|away bytram|away
[17:00:19] <n1> i believe there already is a reviews topic
[17:00:27] zz_janrinok is now known as janrinok
[17:00:49] <n1> but for some reason it only exists for us when editing, not a choice when making the submission
[17:01:03] * cmn32480 sits corrected.
[17:01:11] <cmn32480> ~gday n1
[17:01:13] * exec transphobically imagines a barrel of Satya Nadella's anus with n1
[17:01:14] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[17:01:16] * exec prematurely postulates cream of glass shards towards janrinok
[17:01:18] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480
[17:01:20] * exec ironically hurls a pile of lube at cmn32480
[17:01:23] <janrinok> ~gday n1
[17:01:26] * exec overratedly writes a fanfic featuring a gigabyte of IOUs about n1
[17:01:38] <n1> ahoy
[17:02:13] <janrinok> hi guys - I agree with the need for a review topic
[17:02:18] <cmn32480> so.. whatdayall think?
[17:02:40] <janrinok> can't your fingers read?
[17:02:54] <n1> reviews has to be the least used topic we have already
[17:02:59] <n1> https://soylentnews.org
[17:03:05] <yo_momma> ^ 03Search SoylentNews
[17:03:11] <n1> it has a whole 4 stories...
[17:03:19] <janrinok> damn - I hadn't even noticed it before!
[17:03:26] <cmn32480> I think that is likely because of what you stated above
[17:03:35] <cmn32480> it onl;y exists for the editors
[17:03:43] <cmn32480> who should we blame?
[17:03:47] <cmn32480> ~blame
[17:03:48] * exec points at Bytram
[17:04:00] <janrinok> 'its always my fault' but I blame Bytram
[17:04:46] <janrinok> I suppose we could release 1 review per day for the rest of this week?
[17:05:01] <janrinok> .... then judge the feedback?
[17:05:21] <cmn32480> sounds like a feasible plan
[17:05:34] <n1> i'd go with that, it would be nice to have more reviews
[17:05:47] <n1> it would be good for the site, but i doubt they'll ever be popular
[17:06:03] <janrinok> well, it might encourage others, or we might get feedback as to why we've only every had 4 stories!
[17:06:39] <n1> could attract some more people in by finding the site when looking for reviews.
[17:07:21] <n1> as people are likely to have not read the books (for example), it's unlikely to generate huge discussion but that's not always a good judge of the quality of an article
[17:08:13] <janrinok> fair point
[17:08:45] <n1> by the way, thanks for the informative post on the tv detector vans!
[17:09:09] <janrinok> np - you young 'uns don't remember valves and cathode ray tubes :-)
[17:09:22] <janrinok> my brother does!
[17:10:28] <janrinok> that has been a reasonable story for comments - I've enjoyed reading it.
[17:10:31] <n1> indeed! i'd had a conversation about it with someone a couple weeks ago, was going to ask my dad if he knew about the technical side of things as i couldn't see how they worked, nor had been able to find anything about them when looking
[17:10:50] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - can we get the issue noted above with the reviews topic looked at for the next upgrade in December?
[17:10:56] <n1> then this story comes up and i get to learn something!
[17:11:46] <cmn32480> what's a cathode ray tube?
[17:11:48] <janrinok> it was never widely publicised - or at least I don't remember it being - but anyone who was interested in electronics or repaired TV's knew how it worked
[17:11:57] <janrinok> is that a serious question?
[17:12:04] <cmn32480> and what are thses valve thingies you mention as well?
[17:12:15] <cmn32480> no
[17:12:24] <janrinok> ah, 'muricans. tubes to you.!
[17:13:07] <cmn32480> yep.. us 'muricans... can't spull it w/o duh!
[17:21:17] <janrinok> cmn, you mentioned a few weeks back about Arthur working with a single URL. I've got that working now but there has to be a compromise. Some dross gets through the filters because there are simply too many possible templates.
[17:21:47] <janrinok> it is still significantly better, in my view, than having to edit a story from scratch
[17:21:54] <cmn32480> janrinok++
[17:21:54] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 41
[17:22:24] <janrinok> I've spent a lot of time on that - it looked easy until I tried to do it. Just so many permutations and possibilities
[17:23:03] <cmn32480> I'll take dross over some of the asshattery we ahve to do now
[17:23:20] <cmn32480> splendid effort! Absolutely splendid!
[17:23:28] <janrinok> I'm restructuring the rest of the program now to take advantage of some of the things that I have learned.
[17:23:35] <cmn32480> sweet
[17:23:44] <cmn32480> did anybody ask you about Bender?
[17:23:57] <janrinok> nope - is there a problem?
[17:24:15] <cmn32480> since you seem to be the only guy who knows or is willing to work in python...
[17:24:31] * cmn32480 waits for jr to hang up his keyboard
[17:24:46] <janrinok> find that hard to believe, but I'll take flattery any day
[17:24:50] <cmn32480> there has been a lotta grousing about the RSS module in Bender being a memory hog
[17:25:27] <janrinok> any idea where I can download the code from?
[17:26:03] <janrinok> I don't want to have to download the whole of rehash just to find the bit I need....
[17:26:11] <cmn32480> ummm
[17:26:17] <cmn32480> no idea
[17:26:30] <janrinok> I'll poke around and see if I can find it
[17:26:35] <cmn32480> this is the point where I point you at TheMightyBuzzard
[17:26:49] <cmn32480> Bender was a github jsonbot I think
[17:29:02] <janrinok> well, that limits it to a few hundred terrabytes then ....
[17:29:20] <cmn32480> http://jsonbot.readthedocs.io
[17:29:20] <yo_momma> ^✓ 03Welcome to JSONBOT — JSONBOT 0.91.0 DEVELOPMENT documentation
[17:29:46] <cmn32480> wasn't github
[17:29:52] <cmn32480> that'd have been a wildgoosechase
[17:30:08] <janrinok> lol
[17:30:29] <janrinok> I've got enough wild geese to take care of T
[17:30:35] <janrinok> Thanksgiving!
[17:30:57] <janrinok> ...although turkeys would be more popular
[17:32:01] <cmn32480> TMB has more info... or maybe paulej72
[17:32:07] <cmn32480> I'm jsut a lurker on those conversations
[17:32:15] <cmn32480> seeing as I don't know crap
[17:32:21] <janrinok> np - I'll look at the code when I have downloaded it
[17:32:30] <janrinok> you do know crap!
[17:33:15] <cmn32480> yep... but it is generally at the bottom of a porceline bowl
[17:50:19] <janrinok> cmn32480, just for info, that link is now showing 404 on the source code - don't worry, I'll keep looking
[18:06:36] <cmn32480> <sigh> it's always my fault
[18:21:57] <janrinok> found the python module....
[18:29:34] <cmn32480> that's already better then I could have done
[18:38:49] <janrinok> Have I missed a policy change - we have over 20 subs but we are only publishing at 1:45 separation.
[18:39:23] <janrinok> np if I have, but I might have been doing it wrong (again!)
[18:41:21] <cmn32480> nah.. I think we ahve gotten so used to the spacing, and that some of the subs arenb't really usable...
[18:41:30] <janrinok> k
[18:41:53] <cmn32480> I adjusted some stuff this mornign with the NC sdrop in story to spread thigns out
[18:42:42] <janrinok> I've got a load of subs from Arthur - which still need some processing - but I don't want to discourage others from submitting
[18:43:01] <cmn32480> if you have a batch toss them in the hold queue
[18:43:28] <janrinok> lol - last time I did that they sat there for weeks!
[18:46:09] <cmn32480> well... ummmm... it's all my fault?
[18:48:40] <janrinok> I posted the first review
[19:11:38] <janrinok> gtg - see you guys tomorrow
[19:11:52] <cmn32480> Take it easy JR
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[20:25:52] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[20:26:18] <Bytram> reviews as a topic can be enabled with a simple DB cmd:
[20:27:19] <Bytram> update topics set submittable = 'yes' where keyword = 'reviews' ;
[20:27:34] * Bytram assuming I got that syntax correct
[20:28:22] * Bytram tries to remember what server dev's db lives on
[20:30:29] * Bytram doh! dev is on 'dev' aka lithium
[20:34:42] * Bytram notes db is soylentdev
[20:45:59] * Bytram is confused... the dev db is updated, but fails to show 'reviews' as a choice for a topic to select for a submission; even after Ctrl+F5
[20:50:32] * Bytram changes back to the way it was
[20:54:01] * Bytram tries the using 'Topics Editor'
[20:54:22] * Bytram enables 'Submittable' checkbox
[20:55:09] * Bytram clicks 'Save Topic' button
[20:55:11] * Bytram checks DB
[20:55:18] * Bytram sees db is updated
[20:57:23] * Bytram logs out of dev.soylentnews.org in browser
[20:57:30] * Bytram logs back in as martyb
[20:57:54] * Bytram clicks submit story
[20:58:11] * Bytram does not see 'Reviews' as a submittable topic. :(
[21:05:29] <Bytram> hmmm, I *can* select reviews as a topic when writing in my journal. ?!?
[21:16:09] * Bytram is glad he practiced on dev and not on prod.
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