#editorial | Logs for 2016-07-31

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[01:20:40] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[01:32:21] <Bytram> damn. Just got word that an[other] uncle died.
[01:32:26] <Bytram> 2nd one this year.
[01:32:48] <Bytram> and got the word while I was at a memorial service for an acquaintance.
[01:36:06] <Deucalion> sorry to hear that Bytram :(
[01:36:31] <Bytram> Deucalion: thanks.
[01:36:45] <cmn32480> sorry to hear it bytram
[01:37:23] <Bytram> He'd been going downhill for a long while, Az, and it was getting increasingly difficult to keep an eye on him. So, in some ways it's better, but still a bit of a shock.
[01:37:27] <Bytram> cmn32480: thanks
[01:38:03] <Bytram> wasn't close, but had some very happy memories from a vacation trip to their place down south when I was young
[01:38:32] <Bytram> it's just one of those things where, well, he was *always* there as long as I lived... and now he isn't.
[01:39:06] <cmn32480> i ahve those relatives as well... but Az is a shitty way to go
[01:39:23] <cmn32480> particularly hard on those closest to the person
[01:39:26] <Bytram> I know there's really nothing you can say, but I do appreciate the expression of sympathy... it helps to know I'm not trying to face it alone.
[01:39:32] <Bytram> zactly
[01:40:03] <Bytram> my aunt is no spring chicken, so it was becomeing increasingly exhausting on her... couldn't sleep but had to keep an eye on what he was up to.
[01:40:31] <Bytram> and then to deal with the memory lapses of the past and of recent activities -- immensely draining
[01:40:39] <Deucalion> I know the feeling. I've had to bury cousins who were around my age in the past and the son of a significant other (at the time) who died under a truck at 20y/o. Every time it brings our own mortality to mind.
[01:40:41] <cmn32480> ~define spring chicken
[01:40:42] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03spring chicken: a young and naive person,especially a young woman.(Usually in the negative.)
[01:40:49] * Bytram only hopes that when his time comes, it comes quickly
[01:40:59] <cmn32480> amen to that
[01:41:10] <Bytram> ummm, not quite right on that definition.
[01:41:15] * cmn32480 hopes for the same
[01:41:36] <cmn32480> yeah.. urban dictionary usually isn't
[01:42:25] <Deucalion> aye - make it fast not lingering - then I can get on to the next life... just this time around let me take my experience and memories with me... wiping my NVRAM every time I reincarnate is not cool.
[01:42:31] <Bytram> hmmm, does that make her a 'fall chicken' ??
[01:43:09] <Bytram> if it got wiped, then, maybe, it was NNVRAM (Not Non-volatile random access memory)
[01:43:11] * cmn32480 inserts a thumb drive for Deucalion
[01:43:19] * Deucalion hugs Bytram
[01:43:32] <Bytram> cmn32480: /me chuckles and LOLs -- thanks
[01:43:54] <cmn32480> it was in heis EAR..... I swear <grins maliciously>
[01:44:04] <Bytram> Deucalion: damn. /me tears up. thanks
[01:44:54] <Bytram> One hting I learned when my mom passed: "It only hurts because I was blessed to have her in my life"
[01:45:00] <Deucalion> Bytram, I suspect it's one of those older EPROM thingamys you wipe with a UV light - remove label covering hole then blast with the light. No idea how those things work.. does the UV indce a current that wipes the chippery? All black magic to me... know how to do it.. just don;t know how it works
[01:45:34] <cmn32480> ~g eprom
[01:45:35] <Bytram> so, when you 'see the light', it also gets erased??? /me dons very dark sunglasses
[01:45:37] <exec> [google] whatis.techtarget.com/definition/EPROM
[01:45:44] <Deucalion> Bytram, exactly - you wouldn't care if they were insignificant in your life
[01:45:55] <Bytram> Eraseable Programable Read Only Memory
[01:46:06] <Deucalion> and EEPROM?
[01:46:15] <Bytram> Electrically Eraseable Programable Read Only Memory
[01:46:26] <Bytram> high voltage zaps it back to zero
[01:46:51] <Bytram> umm, no, high volate wipes and programs it; low voltage reads
[01:46:58] <Bytram> s/volate/voltage/
[01:46:58] <sedctl> <Bytram> umm, no, high voltage wipes and programs it; low voltage reads
[01:47:00] <exec> <Bytram> umm, no, high voltage wipes and programs it; low voltage reads
[01:47:01] <Deucalion> thank you.. that memory must have got shunted out for something more relevant at the time... damn limited memory.. I think I only have 640K installed
[01:47:16] <Bytram> Deucalion: that should be enought for *anyone* !!
[01:47:21] <Bytram> brb
[01:47:22] <Deucalion> :P
[01:48:55] <Deucalion> I guess EPROM moved onto FPGA - kinda.... gate arrays you can program for a specific task then later on reprogram them to do something else... put the program logic on the board in the field. Another thing I have no idea how that is possible.
[01:52:04] * Deucalion suspects cmn32480 is now tangled in a web of wiki pages about EPROM and EEPROM xD
[01:53:00] <Bytram> and I, too, have no idea how they do it.
[01:53:28] <Bytram> FPGA == Field Programmable Gate Array
[01:53:56] * Bytram has a bizarrely good memory for acronyms and initialisms
[01:59:35] <Deucalion> I only came across them when I was dabbling with the crypto-currency stuff.... they rapidly got displaced by ASICs
[02:00:57] <Deucalion> ASIC being > FPGA for a given specific task with the downside that it cannot be reprogrammed and tasked to another function. All wizardry to me.
[02:01:22] <Bytram> ASIC == Applications Specific integrated Circuit
[02:01:56] <Bytram> like a cpu which *only* had the instructions you needed
[02:02:05] <Bytram> and those being highly optimized
[02:02:16] <Bytram> e.g.: for mining bitcoins
[02:02:30] <Bytram> much faster than a CPU or even a GPU
[02:03:05] <cmn32480> sorry.. got called by the wife
[02:03:40] <Bytram> what did she call you?
[02:03:45] <Deucalion> indeed. Damned expensive - and if you make a mistake in your logic that you get the fab to craft you have to throw them all away as they are useless. Butterfly Labs is one name that comes to mind when talking about ASICs in the bitcoin world.
[02:03:48] <cmn32480> all kinds of nasty names
[02:03:57] <cmn32480> I don't want to ruin your impressionable young mind
[02:04:25] <Bytram> much obligred
[02:05:03] <cmn32480> it all started with a text message from verizon that we are at 50% of our data this month already
[02:05:10] <cmn32480> the month starts on the 20th
[02:05:32] <cmn32480> so 10 days in, we are at 50%... and I haven't started traveling yet
[02:06:16] <Bytram> hmmm, where did all the data go?
[02:06:41] <Deucalion> nothing like monopolization of essential services.
[02:06:44] <cmn32480> unknown...
[02:06:58] <Deucalion> what is your "allowance"?
[02:06:59] <cmn32480> but the "tool" they give estimates that 67% of the 50% is to social media
[02:07:05] <cmn32480> 6GB
[02:07:19] <Deucalion> sheesh - on landline based DSL?
[02:07:25] * Bytram gets 5GB, but it's just a solo phoneplan
[02:07:34] <Deucalion> ahh... cell plan
[02:07:40] <cmn32480> nah that is my cellular data plan
[02:07:44] <Bytram> yep
[02:07:49] <cmn32480> the fiber at the house is relatively unlimited
[02:08:00] <cmn32480> and I average about 125GB-150GB/month
[02:08:55] * Bytram has a flashback to his first hard disk drive with a whopping 40MB of total capacity, but it had to be split into 32 MB and 8 MB because of FAT's limitations on partition size
[02:09:40] <Deucalion> I got by using a 2GB/month cell plan tethering everything in my abode for a few months as my main connection. I had to suppress all JS and all images on sites etc. That was ~fun~! #1stWorldProblems
[02:09:53] <cmn32480> heh
[02:10:09] <cmn32480> I have Fiber to the house... I get 50up and 50 down
[02:10:24] <cmn32480> cell gets paid by work... cu I travel
[02:10:58] <Bytram> up until a few months ago, I was on 1X max speed and 4GB/month... we're talking top speed of about 50-60 KB/sec
[02:12:00] <Bytram> now I occasionally see 400-600 KB/sec ZOOM! (Then again, it's not uncommon to also see 200 KB/sec)
[02:12:40] <Deucalion> 200KBs or 200Kbs?
[02:13:54] <Bytram> kilobytes /sec
[02:14:36] <Bytram> I still run with noscript and bunches of other things to supress unnecessary D/Ls
[02:15:19] <cmn32480> no linux iso's for you!
[02:15:22] <Bytram> still, it's a vast improvement over my previous speeds
[02:15:27] <Bytram> ding ding
[02:15:43] <cmn32480> unless you go to the library or starbucks
[02:15:49] <Deucalion> suppressing images was a biggy for me when I had to do it - it seems websites designers forgot about image compression in the last decade.
[02:15:49] <Bytram> yep
[02:19:30] <cmn32480> website designers for got pretty much everything in the last decade or so...
[02:19:34] <cmn32480> good programming practice
[02:19:37] <cmn32480> compression
[02:19:56] <cmn32480> doing stuff w/o needless scripting
[02:20:05] <cmn32480> etc
[02:20:06] <cmn32480> etc
[02:20:06] <cmn32480> etc
[02:20:27] <Bytram> to 'clean up' with a unicorn just promote the daylights out of quick-n-dirty
[02:20:43] <Bytram> unicorn == IPO with estimated value >= $1B
[02:31:50] <Deucalion> Not sure I can bring myself to be comfortable with the compromise of sell a rotting horse corpse as a premier race winning filly
[02:34:41] <Bytram> there are some, I'm sure, who rationalize that they provided all the required disclosure, and caveat emptor, and all that.
[02:34:53] <Bytram> I'm not one of them.
[02:36:07] <Bytram> conversely, the thought that I could start a business, and if it didn't work out I could legally stiff the people who I owed money to, is not comforting to me.
[02:36:58] <Bytram> though, I can understand extenuating circumstances, such as unexpected catastrophic medical bills... what is a person to do in that case?
[02:37:39] <Deucalion> You would be dealing with other businesses in that scenario - so you would be stiffing another business. Anyone with any sense separates their business dealings from their personal dealings
[02:38:01] * Bytram apparently lacks business 'sense'
[02:38:20] <Deucalion> You're not alone.
[02:39:59] * Bytram quickly steps back and looks around his room
[02:40:08] <Deucalion> Never put personal assets on the line for a business venture - get a bank to bankroll it and don't let them lean on your personal assets as a fallback. The bank is already making out like a bandit on the loan - don't endanger your own collateral.
[02:40:38] <Bytram> that makes excellent sense -- thanks for the advice
[02:42:16] <Deucalion> Majority of small businesses fold within 2 yrs - hence why business loans are so pricey. But eh... people still put their homes up as collateral for the business they think will make them rich then end up homeless when it goes to shit.
[02:42:38] * Bytram has heard of that. so sad.
[02:43:00] * Bytram btw, my much earlier 'comments' here were relayed in this channel for a reason and would prefer to not have it replayed into #SN
[02:43:06] <Deucalion> Then complain that the bank took their collateral... well that was the deal they signed, so tough.
[02:43:12] <Bytram> yep
[02:43:33] <Deucalion> what got "relayed"?
[02:43:52] <Bytram> nothing, yet, and though possibly naive, would prefer to keep it that way.
[02:44:52] <Deucalion> um... anyone can /j #editorial and Loggie is in here so tis on the web...
[02:45:07] <cmn32480> right..but most don't and won't
[02:45:16] <Bytram> oh, I know that. they *can*, but no need to actively go and broadcast it.
[02:45:24] <Bytram> cmn32480++ bingo
[02:45:24] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 58
[02:45:53] <cmn32480> even my mouse sized brain occassionally grasps a concept
[02:45:56] <Deucalion> Am I lost - who is replaying #editorial to #soylent?
[02:46:13] <cmn32480> he is asking that it not be done by anyone
[02:46:18] <cmn32480> not that it has happened...
[02:47:30] <cmn32480> cripe.. is it so hard to list the trails in a state park and how long they are on the freaking website??
[02:48:01] <Bytram> cmn32480: apparently, it is. Wihch state part?
[02:48:04] <Bytram> *park
[02:48:13] <cmn32480> or at least not have the informatino buried under 47 layers of cruft that I don't care about?
[02:48:28] <cmn32480> Gunpodwer
[02:48:38] <cmn32480> Gunpowder
[02:48:41] <cmn32480> stupid finger
[02:48:43] <cmn32480> s
[02:49:33] <Bytram> Gunpowder State Park?
[02:49:44] <cmn32480> yeah... real bang for your buck
[02:50:01] <Bytram> A Nobel effort, I'm sure!
[02:50:18] <cmn32480> yeah.. it's dy-no-mite!
[02:50:23] <Bytram> lemme guess, lotsa saltpeter there?
[02:50:59] <Bytram> http://baltimore.cbslocal.com
[02:51:02] <exec> └─ 13Visitors Guide To Top Hikes In Gunpowder Falls State Park « CBS Baltimore
[02:51:17] <cmn32480> but we sulphur from all the bugs
[02:51:43] <cmn32480> http://dnr2.maryland.gov
[02:51:47] <exec> └─ 13Self-Guided Activities
[02:52:44] <Bytram> http://www.everytrail.com
[02:52:46] <exec> └─ 13Trail Map of Gunpowder Falls State Park Wildlands Loop | EveryTrail
[02:52:55] <Bytram> ^^^ that's a 4.75 mile treck
[02:53:13] <cmn32480> my hiking partner was looking for somethgn around 10 miles
[02:53:21] <cmn32480> ~convert 10 m km
[02:53:22] <exec> 03syntax: ~convert <amount> <from_unit> <to_unit>
[02:53:32] <cmn32480> ~convert 10 mile kilometer
[02:53:32] <Bytram> 10km ~ 6 miles
[02:53:35] <exec> 03syntax: ~convert <amount> <from_unit> <to_unit>
[02:53:41] <Bytram> 10 milesis about 16 km
[02:54:06] <cmn32480> google agrees with you
[02:54:57] <Bytram> thas good
[02:55:05] <Bytram> try the "Gunpowder North Trail and South Trail- Hereford County" http://baltimore.cbslocal.com
[02:55:08] <exec> └─ 13Visitors Guide To Top Hikes In Gunpowder Falls State Park « CBS Baltimore
[02:55:11] <Bytram> 10 miles
[02:55:22] <cmn32480> I was lookinga t that
[02:55:31] <cmn32480> my partener claims to have it all figured out.
[02:55:48] <cmn32480> and knowing how anal retentive he is, he very likely does!
[02:57:19] <Bytram> sounds like that *could* be a plus.
[02:58:16] <Bytram> ummm, when are you planning to go hiking? Sunday? there is a flash flood warning up for you.
[02:58:18] <cmn32480> since he hasn't shared where we are gonna go.. I sure hope so!
[02:58:30] <Bytram> Flash Flood Warning For Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Carroll, Frederick, Howard and Montgomery Counties & Baltimore City Til 4:15 AM Sunday |
[02:58:33] <cmn32480> first thing in the morning
[02:58:37] <Bytram> http://weather.baltimore.cbslocal.com
[02:58:41] <exec> └─ 13Baltimore Weather Forecasts and Conditions « CBS Baltimore
[02:58:49] <cmn32480> there we are safe.. I'm harford county
[02:59:16] <Bytram> oh, and the flood waring is until very early on Sunday
[02:59:17] <cmn32480> golly... we can hope the city floods... and washes that whole pus filled boil away
[02:59:56] <cmn32480> I'd like to be home by noonish
[03:00:11] <cmn32480> or at least off the trail by noonish
[03:00:21] <Bytram> sounds like you just need to show up, walk, and head home, then.
[03:00:30] <Bytram> IOW, participate, don't anticipate
[03:00:32] <cmn32480> yes
[03:00:36] <cmn32480> but this week is my turn to drive
[03:01:06] <Bytram> does he navigate? "I was only following your directions!"
[03:01:22] <cmn32480> yep
[03:01:29] <cmn32480> we generally put it in the GPS
[03:01:34] <cmn32480> to get us to the trail head
[03:02:48] <cmn32480> I'm not worried...
[03:02:56] <Bytram> I was just reflecting recently on how today's teens do not know what it is like to call up someone and say "I'm lost, I see foo, bar, and buzz; how do I get to your place from here?"
[03:03:09] <cmn32480> it'll all work out long as i don't ahve to carry him out...
[03:03:21] <cmn32480> lol
[03:03:25] <Bytram> call made, of course, from a 'pay phone'
[03:03:26] <cmn32480> they haven't a freaking clue
[03:03:44] <cmn32480> most couldn't identify a pay phone f they saw one
[03:03:44] <Bytram> true story... friend of mine had a visitor and her kids
[03:03:50] <Bytram> kid wanted to make a call
[03:04:01] <Bytram> friend hands kid receiver to their home phone
[03:04:06] <Bytram> kid asks whats THAT sound?
[03:04:12] <Bytram> never heard a dial tone before.
[03:04:18] <Bytram> =)
[03:05:17] <cmn32480> lol
[03:06:20] <Bytram> I not infrequently sell watches to teens and tweens who don't know how to tell time on a watch.
[03:06:29] <Bytram> they just like the look
[03:06:33] <Bytram> :P
[03:07:01] <Bytram> #DigitalWatchesComingBack
[03:07:51] * Bytram has a long day ahead at work tomorrow
[03:07:55] <Bytram> gonna call it a night
[03:08:00] <Bytram> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:08:05] * exec irresponsibly violates an overflowing chest of love with cmn32480
[03:08:06] <Bytram> ~gnight Deucalion
[03:08:08] * exec brazenly generates a small script that substitutes a chariot of seven of nine for Deucalion
[03:08:23] <cmn32480> ~gnight bytram
[03:08:25] * exec dexterously sodomizes a pocketful of red cordial with bytram
[03:08:38] <Bytram> so far, I think Deucalion is winning
[03:08:57] <cmn32480> yes.. I'd agree
[03:09:22] * Deucalion runs of with seven of nine... if only she's wake up
[03:09:52] <cmn32480> lol
[03:09:58] <cmn32480> and gonig to bed sounds like a good idea
[03:10:03] <cmn32480> ~gngiht Deucalion
[03:10:10] <cmn32480> ~gnight Deucalion
[03:10:12] * exec transphobically ships a misused Excel sheet of bewb with Deucalion
[03:10:25] <cmn32480> 7 of 9 and bewb?
[03:10:34] <cmn32480> damn.. you are in it to win it tonight!
[03:11:27] * Bytram secretly activates the web camera in Deucalion's laptop
[03:12:59] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[03:14:37] <Deucalion> Sadly for you all laptop integrated cams in this locale have had the black tape treatment.
[03:15:55] <Deucalion> I am no paranoid, but I don't trust a software controlled LED to tell me when a camera is activated.
[03:16:05] <Deucalion> OK.. maybe a tad paranoid.
[03:17:06] * Deucalion gently places 7 of 9 into the spare bed. Maybe tomorrow
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[12:53:04] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[12:53:09] <Bytram> Deucalion: "a tad paranoid"? In this day and age, sadly, I doubt one can be TOO paranoid. :/
[13:03:01] <Bytram> https://theintercept.com
[13:03:03] <exec> └─ 13A Famed Hacker Is Grading Thousands of Programs — and May Revolutionize Software in the Process
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[15:30:18] <cmn32480> zz_SoyGuest46568 - i hope thigns are well.
[16:29:32] <n1> sup cmn32480
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