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[19:28:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~eds
[19:28:23] <exec> editor ping for TheMightyBuzzard: janrinok LaminatorX n1 nick martyb Bytram Azrael mrcoolbp cmn32480 coolhand takyon cmn32480|away bytram|away
[19:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, they left you out, Subsentient
[19:33:14] <chromas> He's in a ping-free zone
[19:33:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably playing pong
[19:36:52] <n1> sup
[19:48:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> n1, stories run dry
[19:48:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry, was out smokin
[19:49:02] <n1> [redacted]
[19:49:27] <n1> i'll go do something about it
[19:49:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> awesome. it'd be a shame to subject folks to my speeling
[19:52:15] <n1> whoever put in that running shoe story gets bonus points for having the technically perfect copy/paste submission.
[19:53:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, i was about to run that myself out of sheer laziness.
[19:55:15] <n1> i saw
[19:55:21] <n1> was the easiest one
[19:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> I can unlazy a couple of my mrplow subs if you like. nothin better to do right this moment.
[19:58:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> well shoot, i only have one in there. thought i had more.
[19:59:49] <n1> i was hoping to tune up my submission, but that would take longer than pushing a few more out
[20:00:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> here, i'll just redo the stargate one and delete the one i sent via mrplow
[20:06:26] <n1> ty
[20:06:36] <n1> the 'london riot' is a non-story
[20:07:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> didn't happen or not interesting?
[20:07:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> resubmitted. shouldn't take any editing to speak of. only links in the blockquote were to variety searches for the term linked so i left them out.
[20:07:59] <n1> not interesting, some rave got out of hand, 9 people got arrested in a 'large civil disobedience'
[20:08:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> are raves still a thing?
[20:09:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i figured anything i'd heard of was out of fashion by then
[20:09:46] <n1> "The trouble started in Barking, East London, when around 2,000 people gathered for the rave at 10pm last night.
[20:09:46] <n1> "
[20:09:54] <n1> is not like the old days
[20:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, that's not a rave that's... well fuck if i know what to call it.
[20:10:34] <n1> but if we can still call physical assaults 'fracas' we can still call the youth gathering for dancing a rave
[20:11:26] <n1> "A spokesman for the Met Police said: ‘At approximately 9:45pm on Saturday, June 18, police were informed of a large number of people gathering for an unlicensed event at a building in Thames Road, Barking."
[20:11:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> raves are a couple dozen people in some abandoned or otherwise not legally occupied area. if you book a venue it's not a rave anymore.
[20:11:49] <n1> unlicensed event
[20:11:56] <n1> raves have never been a couple dozen people in the uk
[20:11:58] <n1> that's a party
[20:12:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[20:12:37] <n1> abandoned/unoccupied yes, but in my experience it was never a small thing
[20:13:00] <n1> usually needs a few hundred people to make it work out
[20:13:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky. it's probably because we're not as crowded over here.
[20:14:06] <n1> it was big business, phone numbers going around with answer phone recordings of when and where
[20:14:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes it farther out of the way to get there
[20:14:25] <n1> got to get the generators and the PA in, people would travel across the country for sufficiently hyped ones
[20:15:35] <n1> eventually transformed into thousands of music festivals
[20:15:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i never went. they weren't a thing while i was young enough to think they'd be fun.
[20:16:40] <n1> it was fading out by the time i was old enough, but knowing people who'd been in the scene
[20:16:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> closest we had were punk shows where the band would set up in an empty warehouse or similar.
[20:17:07] <n1> for music, drink and drugs they created ibiza and assorted islands in continental europe
[20:17:38] <n1> £40 on easyjet and you're away until you get hospitalised and have to be returned
[20:18:38] <n1> would have been much more of a fan of seeing some bands in more casual environments
[20:21:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> when i was growing up we had the very tail end of punk, metal starting to lose steam, and grunge just being discovered outside seattle.
[20:21:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> electronica? nobody'd heard of it and would have thought "that's gay" if they had.
[20:22:41] <n1> when i grew up, punk and metal was gay and the 'electronic thing they call music' was the thing
[20:23:08] <n1> and i grew up around a bunch of hippies
[20:23:45] <n1> wasn't even on my radar for a long time
[20:24:20] <n1> seems like in the early days, they got around the rave technicalities because it wasn't live music.
[20:24:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly
[20:25:36] <n1> "In May 1992, the government acted. Under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, the definition of music played at a rave was given as “music” includes sounds wholly or predominantly characterized by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats”
[20:25:56] <n1> needed some jazz raves
[20:26:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly though, if there wasn't a pit i could elbow people in the throat in, i wouldn't have been interested.
[20:26:53] <n1> heheh
[20:26:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> youth culture without plenty of violence mystifies me.
[20:27:15] <n1> as a very passive person, i do enjoy a good pit
[20:27:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> how're you sposed to work out your angst?
[20:27:50] <chromas> with a gun
[20:27:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, right
[20:28:08] <n1> had a decade off, but last year i made a brief visit at a raging speedhorn reunion show :D
[20:28:29] <n1> chromas, what if you're not 'merican?
[20:28:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of the ones i'd really like to see, at least one key member is dead.
[20:29:10] * chromas unscientifically declares a correlation between lack-of-teen-violence and an uptake of school shootings
[20:29:24] * TheMightyBuzzard nods thoughtfully to chromas
[20:29:41] <n1> depends on many things, some bands that are still making the rounds with original members, not so awesome
[20:30:03] * n1 is specifically thinking of Black Sabbath's recent work, and Ozzy Osbourne's for the last 15+
[20:30:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> buddy of mine's band just opened for quiet riot like last month. i hadda miss it what with being 10 hours away.
[20:30:52] <n1> :( sucks
[20:30:59] <n1> 10 hours a long trip though
[20:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. they rock even if they did rip their entire sound and half their catalog off from slade
[20:32:09] <n1> which is saying something...
[20:32:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, poor slade
[20:32:35] <n1> but really, i need some live music soon
[20:32:47] <n1> some good live music, not whatever crap i'll be subjected to this year at the festival(s)
[20:33:17] <n1> no one wants to pay me to work at a festival with good music... psh.
[20:33:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> gnod gnod. i gotta exclude the grand ole opry from that list too. i don't like enough country singers for it to be worth going for me.
[20:34:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> even though it's close and runs like weekly or some such.
[20:35:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wouldn't mind another dropkick murphys show i spose
[20:35:43] <n1> according to songkick there's 48 live music type things on in london this evening
[20:36:14] <n1> TheMightyBuzzard, just waiting for the right band to come around?
[20:36:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[20:36:28] <n1> Cypress Hill is apparently playing tonight....
[20:37:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, the offspring are showing in london wednesday
[20:37:42] <n1> really busy night in london tonight
[20:38:00] <n1> cypress hill, simply red, coldplay, proclaimers
[20:38:08] <n1> different venues, obviously..
[20:38:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> som bitch, i need to go to columbia this september
[20:38:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> Rock & Shout 2016 w/ The Offspring, Dead Kennedys, Anti Flag, La Pestilencia and Triple X.
[20:39:32] <n1> also tonight in london...
[20:39:37] <n1> "an evening with charlie sheen"
[20:40:05] <n1> that's not a bad line-up
[20:40:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't an evening with the tele be more attractive?
[20:40:18] <n1> offspring are reliable, saw them once and the sound was bad, but that was the venue
[20:40:48] <n1> tele?
[20:40:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> telly?
[20:41:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> anti flag and dk are good regardless. they started and got popular on stages with utter shit sound.
[20:41:57] <n1> i enjoy work from both of those bands, anti-flag's newer stuff is a bit shit though
[20:42:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah well, everyone's is really. the world seems to have lost its edge.
[20:42:38] <n1> also on your seattle grunge type thing, melvins are playing in london this evning too
[20:42:51] <n1> i could have done something this evening, feels like a waste now lol
[20:43:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> really i only ever dug nirvana for grunge. they broke it out of seattle and nobody ever measured up to them imo
[20:44:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i still remember hearing smells like teen spirit for the first time before i'd even heard the word grunge. it was epic.
[20:44:45] <n1> not something i spent much time on grunge specifically outside of nirvana, bit more on the sludge/stoner/post-metal side
[20:45:19] <n1> guess it was something quite different at the time
[20:45:54] <n1> it's not a genre that has aged well outside of their defining classics
[20:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[20:47:39] <n1> should see if there's something to go to on tuesday
[20:48:18] <n1> going to be in town anyway, save on another train ticket
[20:48:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima find me a smoke and something to munch on.
[20:49:21] * n1 hat tip
[20:49:25] <n1> smoke sounds like a good idea
[20:50:56] <n1> gah, wednesday is offspring and bad religion
[21:00:10] <chromas> the rule 41 story could use a tweak
[21:00:26] <chromas> broken link
[21:04:44] <n1> should work in a minute
[21:06:58] * TheMightyBuzzard swears chromas in and teaches him the staff handshake
[22:18:23] <crutchy> its a very slow handshake.. any quick movements might scare the servers