#editorial | Logs for 2016-06-17

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[04:08:16] <takyon> someone really screwed up the "Did Gravitational Wave Detector Find Dark Matter?" story
[04:08:22] <takyon> I fixed a few things, it should be ok now
[04:08:41] <takyon> unclosed anchor tags, disappearing words, words that never existed
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[11:55:02] Cripple is now known as cripple
[13:58:03] <Bytram> new poll going up today... am starting on it now; working off the submission: https://soylentnews.org
[13:58:04] <Timmeh> ^ 03SN Submission by Anonymous Coward: Poll: How many stories have you submitted to SN?
[13:58:22] <Bytram> but am going to generalize it just a tad to how many stories do you submit each month?
[15:29:51] <Bytram> I forgot I had started on a new poll; scheduled to go out at 1600 UTC (noon EDT)
[15:30:43] <Bytram> not sure about the 'joke' option; feel free to change; here's what it is right now:
[15:30:44] <Bytram> On average, how many stories do you submit to Soylentnews each month?
[15:30:44] <Bytram> none (0)
[15:30:44] <Bytram> 1 (0)
[15:30:44] <Bytram> 2 (0)
[15:30:44] <Bytram> 3 (0)
[15:30:45] <Bytram> 4-5 (0)
[15:30:47] <Bytram> 6-10 (0)
[15:30:49] <Bytram> more than 10 (0)
[15:30:51] <Bytram> I am phoenix666/takyon (0)
[15:30:57] <Bytram> gtg
[15:39:55] <Bytram> gates feathers
[15:42:48] <Bytram> @22:33
[15:42:53] <Bytram> afk
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[15:43:44] <n1> howdy
[15:44:22] <Bytram> huh? Looks like I don't need to be work as soon as I thought
[15:44:25] <Bytram> n1: !!
[15:44:52] <Bytram> I see you are looking at the same story as I am....
[15:44:57] <n1> i just took the british mp story off display for a minute
[15:45:01] <Bytram> I was wondering why it was NOT display.
[15:45:03] <Bytram> =)
[15:45:13] <n1> slightly concerned about the headline
[15:45:32] <Bytram> k
[15:45:37] <n1> while it's probably to a degree accurate
[15:45:39] <Bytram> you have a better 'view' of things than I do over there.
[15:45:47] <n1> i cant find any other source that has used such a loaded headline
[15:46:10] <Bytram> how about: British MP who Supports Refugees and EU Membership Murdered
[15:46:32] <n1> they're not even going that far, it's a very reverse PC moment for the media
[15:47:04] <n1> "UK MP Shot Dead, EU Referendum Campaigns Suspended" is the most factually accurate headline without leading
[15:47:21] <Bytram> sounds MUCH better!!!!
[15:47:40] <Bytram> will need to update the story accordingly
[15:47:41] <n1> im not sure if the eu campaign suspension is in the summary
[15:47:45] <n1> it should be if it's not
[15:47:47] <Bytram> is not
[15:47:56] <Bytram> "The UK is currently preparing to vote in a referendum on 23rd June [bbc.co.uk] on the UK's continued membership of the European Union."
[15:48:03] <n1> http://www.bbc.co.uk
[15:48:05] <Timmeh> ^ 03EU referendum campaigns suspended until Sunday after Jo Cox attack - BBC News
[15:49:09] <Bytram> I'll leave it in your capable hands; let me know when you'd like a look-see
[15:49:09] <n1> i have found it interesting how every outlet ive seen, on either side of the 'political spectrum' have avoided making the statement in their headlines
[15:50:10] <n1> it's the first time (guessing) where a politician has been murdered, where we can't jump to a political motive, because that itself would be political
[15:50:23] <Bytram> snake eating its own tail?
[15:51:05] <n1> me thinks the usual people who are quite anti-PC and the like are quite happy we're not jumping to conclusions and using a broad brush to stereotype on this occasion
[15:51:36] <n1> i find the contrast in reporting interesting in the context of the situation
[15:53:07] <Bytram> exe3rcise of restraint is very becoming
[15:57:43] <n1> im trimming the submission a bit
[15:58:02] <n1> is too much 'heat of the moment blog post'
[16:00:58] <n1> have updated it
[16:01:12] <n1> forgot to change headline...
[16:01:37] <n1> now ive done the headline
[16:02:11] <Bytram> want me to take a look now?
[16:02:39] <n1> please
[16:02:59] <Bytram> k; brb
[16:04:31] <Bytram> "our" ?? "Cox has been vocal in support of refugees from the Syrian civil war and in our continued membership of the European Union."
[16:05:06] <n1> yeah, should be changed
[16:05:28] <n1> just remove the our
[16:05:32] <n1> and it would be ok i think?
[16:05:32] <Bytram> Britain's ??
[16:05:41] <n1> it already said UK's in the sentence above
[16:05:47] <n1> so i dont think it needs repeating
[16:05:47] <Bytram> k
[16:06:01] <n1> as is UK's referendum, not Britain's ;)
[16:06:12] <Bytram> that's why I asked
[16:06:32] <Bytram> umm it is saying that the story in only 28% mathcing with story that you are looking at?
[16:06:37] <n1> UK is essentially just Great Britain + Northern Ireland
[16:06:43] <Bytram> 28% matching with "British MP Murdered for Supporting Refugees and EU Membership" currently edited by n1
[16:06:48] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:06:53] <Bytram> do i have a stale version?
[16:06:54] <n1> dunno, ignore it
[16:06:59] <n1> im not updating it
[16:07:12] <Bytram> I lcosed that window and will try again
[16:07:19] <n1> the headline should be different
[16:07:35] <n1> might be because i was looking at the cached version
[16:07:36] <Bytram> that was pretty much the only thiong I noticec that had changed
[16:07:39] <Bytram> ahhh
[16:07:53] <Bytram> am seeing the same message; not gonna worry about it
[16:07:57] <n1> i removed a couple of the additions in brackets
[16:08:09] <Bytram> ahh!
[16:08:09] <n1> and changed wording slightly
[16:08:22] <n1> that was the 'heat of the moment blog' stuff
[16:08:28] <Bytram> <p>Cox has been vocal in support of refugees from the Syrian civil war and in the UK's continued membership of the European Union.</p>
[16:08:44] <n1> sure
[16:08:56] <n1> would do it quick, is about to go live i think
[16:08:57] * Bytram clicks update
[16:09:05] <Bytram> done!
[16:09:05] <Bytram> =)
[16:09:08] <Bytram> teamwork++
[16:09:08] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 95
[16:09:13] <Bytram> 8 dozen less one
[16:09:14] <n1> Bytram++
[16:09:14] <Bender> karma - bytram: 40
[16:09:19] <Bytram> n1++
[16:09:19] <Bender> karma - n1: 26
[16:09:31] <Bytram> half a deck of cards
[16:09:37] <Bytram> or... every other sunday, for a year
[16:10:18] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[16:10:37] * Bytram nudges exec
[16:10:45] <Bytram> ~titles on
[16:11:02] <Bytram> s/on/off/
[16:11:04] <exec> <Bytram> ~titles off
[16:11:14] <Bytram> ok, so you ARE there!
[16:11:21] <n1> i read that as titties
[16:11:43] <Bytram> pervert! ;-)
[16:11:57] * Bytram also noticed a similarity
[16:12:03] <Bytram> sans serif fonts ++
[16:14:17] <Bytram> strange... where's the new poll?
[16:14:47] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[16:15:30] <Bytram> poll time: 2016-06-17 16:00:00
[16:15:32] <Bytram> ~time x
[16:15:34] <exec> Friday, 17 June 2016 @ 4:15 pm UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[16:16:17] <Bytram> ahhh, ISTR that we've had problems in the past with polls not going out immediately upon their scheduled time.
[16:16:25] * Bytram saves poll again
[16:18:20] <cmn32480> ~title on
[16:18:22] <exec> titles enabled for 10#editorial
[16:18:32] <cmn32480> FTFY bytram
[16:18:52] <Bytram> merci... but that link itself may be problematic
[16:19:07] <Bytram> let me try it again
[16:19:07] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[16:19:53] <Bytram> I have a tool I wrote that I run locally that uses curl (I think) to follow the links to the 'final' location. it spins, too.
[16:20:00] <Bytram> "http://www.cnet.com/news/lgs-new-tv-designed-to-keep-mosquitos-at-bay/#ftag=CAD590a51e"
[16:20:21] <Bytram> so, maybe without the fragment identifier?
[16:20:28] <Bytram> http://www.cnet.com
[16:20:31] <exec> └─ 13Page Not Found (404) - CNET
[16:20:35] <Bytram> hrm
[16:22:20] * Bytram goes to cnet.com/news and looks for the story directly
[16:22:25] <Bytram> http://www.cnet.com
[16:22:26] <exec> └─ 13LG helps India fight malaria with mosquito repelling TVs - CNET
[16:22:30] <Bytram> !!
[16:27:00] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[16:27:02] <exec> └─ 13Exploding soda cans with electromagnets in SLOW MOTION ft Joe Hanson - YouTube
[16:30:40] <n1> having a mild disagreement with the gf about how she hasn't 'bought any books in years' ... she last ordered some from amazon in april
[16:31:29] <cmn32480> receipt = proof
[16:31:57] <n1> now it's a 'well it feels like years'
[16:32:49] <n1> and this is ignoring the books she's been gifted and acquired in those few weeks between then and now, but they don't count
[16:33:33] <n1> but don't worry, it's all my fault, because i enabled it
[16:39:47] <Bytram> proof of time dilation, I take it?
[16:42:23] * Bytram notices the story submission poll still has not gone out yet
[16:43:05] <Bytram> maybe it needs to have someone else 'poke at it' before it can go live?
[16:43:05] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[16:43:08] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Poll
[16:47:20] <n1> i voted on the poll
[16:47:25] <n1> so maybe that will help
[16:50:32] <Bytram> interesting! Even though the poll has not gone live on the main page, you were still able to place a vote? /meponders
[16:51:58] * Bytram tries Ctrl+F5 on the main page to force complete reload -- still see old poll
[16:52:49] <n1> if you click on the polls option underneath the current one
[16:52:54] <n1> it takes you to a list of all of them
[16:53:18] <Bytram> yep, I see it now. Just that the thought never occurred to me to vote unless the poll wsa on the main page.
[16:53:34] * Bytram votes
[16:53:39] * Bytram sees results displayed
[16:53:42] <n1> its on the front page now
[16:53:58] <Bytram> any thoughts on the phrasing / wording of the last choice?
[16:54:02] <Bytram> keep it ? change it?
[16:54:58] <n1> should be ok
[16:55:16] <Bytram> thanks
[16:57:50] <n1> comments are pretty good on the MP story
[16:58:36] <Bytram> YAY!
[16:58:46] <Bytram> biab; afk
[16:58:53] * n1 hat tip
[17:15:23] <Bytram> ahhh, finally! the poll has been updated!
[17:19:22] <n1> is the subs queue the same url regardless of what level user?
[17:19:58] <n1> i think it is... nevermind
[17:21:49] <Bytram> from what I can tell, looking at fluorine, in: /srv/soylentnews.logs/portald.log polls are updated hourly; at hh:37:1[23]
[17:24:46] <Bytram> well, not always, but the vast vast majority of them 971 out of the past 1000
[17:27:14] <Bytram> portald started at 37 minutes after the hour (with some number of seconds) on all but 8 times out of the past 10000 starts
[17:28:15] <Bytram> hmmm, I suppose, in the future, one could just launch portald manually to force out a new poll? IDK
[17:28:21] <Bytram> anyway, I gtg
[17:28:22] <Bytram> afk
[17:29:20] <Bytram> wait... the poll on the main page is showing the COUNTS of the poll answers!!!
[17:29:53] <n1> if you have voted on it, it remembers sometimes it seems
[17:32:18] <Bytram> but displays the poll vote counts on the main page?
[17:32:50] <Bytram> sure, when you load hte actual poll, but on the main page before you vote? that does not make sense and I donot recall seeing that happen before
[17:33:16] <Bytram> I've poked TMB and PJ 'elsewhere'; hopefully they'll notice
[17:33:55] <n1> (You've already voted.)
[17:34:08] <n1> i have not seen it either tbh
[17:34:50] <n1> take care Bytram
[20:46:41] <n1> i just made a really long submission, so good luck with that :D