#editorial | Logs for 2016-03-24

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[01:22:26] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[01:27:13] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.fpds.gov
[01:27:15] <NetCraft> ^ 03FPDS-NG ezSearch
[01:27:30] <Bytram> gee... thanks?
[01:27:30] <takyon> get out of here with that link and your whereto
[01:27:42] <Bytram> takyon: nice to see you, too!
[01:28:13] <takyon> i assume this is about the firm that will try to hack the iphone for the fbi
[01:28:39] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:28:52] <Bytram> just saw the link in #rss-bot
[01:29:38] <Bytram> trying to catch up on things -- was the first link I saw with something 'concrete' on how the FBI was planning to break into the phone
[01:35:17] <takyon> there's a complaint about the red hat story
[01:35:41] <takyon> they say it's a carbon copy of slashdot's inaccurate headline
[01:36:01] <takyon> could be changed to read "Red Hat Revenue Hits $2 Billion" or something
[01:37:32] <Bytram> hmmm, which one was published first?
[01:37:48] <takyon> seems extremely likely it was slashdot, idk
[01:37:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:39:22] <Bytram> SD: Posted by BeauHD on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @03:26PM from
[01:39:38] <Bytram> yep, looks like they got there befoer us
[01:40:04] <Bytram> and, we're both quoting zdnet
[01:40:20] <cmn32480> fix the headline
[01:40:37] <cmn32480> "Redhat Makes more in a year Than you will in a lifetime"
[01:40:39] <Bytram> and both SN and SD were quoting the zdnet article's title.
[01:40:52] <cmn32480> gotta put the kids to bed
[01:40:55] <cmn32480> back in a few
[01:40:57] <Bytram> k
[01:40:58] <Bytram> http://www.zdnet.com
[01:40:58] <NetCraft> ^ 03​Red Hat becomes first $2b open-source company | ZDNet
[01:54:50] <cmn32480> Like MacArthur... I have returned
[01:55:48] <cmn32480> fyi - I sent a note to P666 tahnking him for the submission queue dump
[01:55:55] <cmn32480> and I thanked him too
[01:57:29] * Bytram is working on a reply to the /. redhat dupe title complaint
[01:58:25] <cmn32480> 10-4
[02:05:46] <cmn32480> Syrian Electronic Army - from the bet-they-didn't-put-up-bacon-pictures dept
[02:05:53] <cmn32480> that'd be rude... woudln't it?
[02:06:03] <Bytram> ghost of patty hearst?
[02:06:25] <cmn32480> wasn't she one of Charles Manson's victims?
[02:06:29] <Bytram> nah, SLA something liberation army
[02:06:46] <Bytram> nope; got kidnapped, participated in a bank heist
[02:06:54] <Bytram> was question wether she was forced
[02:06:59] <cmn32480> oh yeah...
[02:07:00] <Bytram> or participated voluntarily
[02:07:12] * cmn32480 's memory start sometime far after that
[02:07:34] <cmn32480> so think that dept line is,well, out of line?
[02:07:51] <Bytram> is pushing things rather far, I would say
[02:07:58] <Bytram> can you find somehting better
[02:08:00] <Bytram> ?
[02:08:31] <cmn32480> probably....
[02:10:29] <Bytram> chromas: favor please? what date/time do you see this story being submitted? https://soylentnews.org
[02:10:30] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN Submission by fliptop: Red Hat Becomes First $2b Open-Source Company
[02:10:59] <Bytram> I see: : 2016-03-23 12:56:23
[02:11:05] <Bytram> cmn32480: ^^
[02:11:18] <cmn32480> Wednesday March 23, @08:56AM
[02:11:39] <Bytram> you have your acct set up for UTC or EDT?
[02:11:43] <cmn32480> on his user page that shows all the stories
[02:11:46] <cmn32480> Eastern
[02:11:47] <Bytram> ahhh
[02:11:50] <Bytram> good one!
[02:12:05] <cmn32480> shows the submission time and the accepted time
[02:12:11] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:12:19] <Bytram> I'm so glad I asked!
[02:15:28] * chromas sees 12:56:23
[02:16:40] <Bytram> chromas: thanks! what time zone is that?
[02:16:45] <Bytram> UTC?
[02:17:04] <cmn32480> Pacific...
[02:17:09] * cmn32480 ducks
[02:17:20] * Bytram quacks
[02:17:21] * cmn32480 quacks
[02:17:26] <cmn32480> ninjad
[02:17:28] <Bytram> lol
[02:17:56] <Bytram> looking at the original submission, it seems that THAT date/time stamp is the same for all of us and is in UTC.
[02:19:15] <Bytram> Looking at: https://soylentnews.org
[02:19:16] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article:  Red Hat Becomes First $2b Open-Source Company 04(9 comments)
[02:19:25] <Bytram> on the right-hand side in the 'story info' box
[02:19:43] <Bytram> I see signoffs: CoolHand 03-23 16:05:41 saved
[02:19:56] <Bytram> cmn32480: chromas: ^^ can you confirm?
[02:20:31] <cmn32480> and 19:29 for martyb, whoeverthefuck that is
[02:21:17] * Bytram has heard that he is a good buddy of the guy who keeps breaking your site... you better treat him nice, ya hear?
[02:21:40] <Bytram> so, looks like 16:05:41 is UTC
[02:21:44] <cmn32480> he keeps breaking the site too... I'll kick his ass!
[02:21:51] <cmn32480> yes
[02:22:04] <cmn32480> the signoffs are in UTC regardless of user specified timezone
[02:22:22] <cmn32480> jsut like the story scheduling is in UTC on the preview/editing page
[02:22:24] <Bytram> I was starting to get that, but damn it would be nice to be explicit
[02:23:07] <Bytram> or, at least, in the NON-site-related places (i.e. community facing uses) include the TZ designation
[02:23:28] <Bytram> so, 16:09 UTC is 11:09 EDT, right?
[02:23:34] <chromas> Can't confirm; I don't get those details
[02:23:39] <Bytram> k
[02:23:44] <cmn32480> agreed.. in backslash everythign is UTC, unless we changed it, like the story list shows both
[02:23:50] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:24:48] <Bytram> what I'm trying to do is to track down the date/time the redhat story was *submitted* and *accepted*
[02:25:11] <Bytram> so
[02:25:17] <Bytram> I have submitted: 2016-03-23 13:47:43 (UTC)
[02:25:43] <Bytram> accepted: 2016-03-23 16:05:41
[02:43:13] <takyon> what's happening
[02:43:55] <Bytram> finishing up my reply... should be just a few more minutes
[02:44:16] <Bytram> and, my dinner is ready and I need to finish preparing it.
[02:44:23] <takyon> judging by the other replies, nobody really cares
[02:44:25] <takyon> hang on
[02:44:40] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[02:44:41] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by [02D2 (5107)] (02Score:1, Disagree)
[02:47:48] <cmn32480> it may not warrant a response
[02:47:54] <cmn32480> everybody ignored it.
[02:48:37] <takyon> News at 11: Editors Get Bytram to Abort Comment He Wrote For an Hour
[02:49:18] <cmn32480> can we get a submission on that topoc?
[02:49:46] <takyon> only if Bytram writes it :)
[02:54:52] <Bytram> lol
[02:55:16] <cmn32480> we should have that in what... 3, 4 days?
[02:55:26] <Bytram> maybe a week or two
[02:55:55] <Bytram> otoh, I'm going to submit it anyway... gives some perspective on what we do and how.
[02:56:16] <cmn32480> how about instead:
[02:56:44] <cmn32480> Unfortunately, most of the editorial staff does not still follow on Slashdot. We can't help that they beat us to a story.
[02:56:59] <cmn32480> and that it was the same article as the source
[03:02:20] <Bytram> good points...
[03:03:08] <cmn32480> or we can ignore it since nobody else has given a flying kangaroo yet
[03:03:50] <Bytram> yes, *yet*. I hit submit. you should see it appear soon.
[03:04:14] <Bytram> feel free to add your $0.02 (or not) =)
[03:04:43] <cmn32480> yoiu'ld need change
[03:05:34] * Bytram rummages around for some Zimbabwe notes
[03:05:56] <cmn32480> thoae go for like 500,000 to the dollar don't they?
[03:06:22] <Bytram> at one point IIRC they were up in the billions
[03:06:28] <Bytram> or maybe even trillions
[03:06:37] <cmn32480> yeah... I'll pass
[03:07:12] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:07:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Zimbabwean dollar
[03:10:15] <cmn32480> on that note.. time for bed.
[03:10:20] <cmn32480> I gotta get some sleep
[03:10:27] <cmn32480> ~gnight #editorial
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[03:10:33] <Bytram> nod nod nod noddding off
[03:10:44] <cmn32480> zactly
[03:10:49] <Bytram> cmn32480: good to 'see' ya; have a GREAT night!
[03:11:12] <cmn32480> soon as I get to study the inside of my eylids in great detail
[03:11:21] <cmn32480> you too Bytram... get some rest!
[03:11:37] <Bytram> have tomorrow off; will only last another hour or so at most
[03:11:53] * Bytram has a full belly, now, will prolly not last that long!
[03:12:21] <cmn32480> not me
[03:12:24] <cmn32480> not even close
[03:12:28] <cmn32480> I'm done
[03:12:31] <cmn32480> sweet dreams
[03:12:34] <Bytram> ciao for now!
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[21:29:53] <Bytram> cmn32480: !!
[21:49:45] <Bytram> cmn32480: Well, I suspect you may be busy elsewhere, but here goes: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!
[22:15:35] <cmn32480> I was driving home... but thanks Bytram
[22:15:45] <cmn32480> now I'm making dinner
[22:15:57] <cmn32480> and after dinner I will break the shit out of my diet by eating cherry pie
[22:16:18] <Bytram> what? No Reese's Pieces or Baby Ruths?
[22:16:21] <Bytram> ;)
[22:16:40] <Bytram> if there were some way to send 'em over the intertubes, they'd be sitting there for you right now!
[22:17:41] <Bytram> You're a good man and I am proud to call you my friend; hope you do something special today!
[22:19:56] <cmn32480> I';m eating cherry pie
[22:20:05] <cmn32480> that's as special as tonight gets
[22:20:06] <Bytram> YUM!
[22:20:14] <cmn32480> and my kids got me a card with singing underpants
[22:20:28] <Bytram> You can have an extra slice -- tell J that I said it was okay.
[22:20:42] <Bytram> I guess they were trying to keep things short.
[22:20:48] <cmn32480> my birthday... don't need permission!
[22:21:01] <Bytram> That's telling 'em, tiger!
[22:21:16] <cmn32480> and I had a denny dog for lunch
[22:21:23] <cmn32480> which also breaks the shit out of my diet
[22:21:30] <Bytram> YAY!
[22:21:56] <cmn32480> Denny Dog = Pit Ham, w/ Italian Sausage and American cheese on a sub roll
[22:22:10] <cmn32480> add onions and horseradish to taste
[22:22:42] <Bytram> that ought to go down smooth
[22:22:48] <Bytram> and might also help clean things out
[22:22:50] <cmn32480> it is awesome
[22:22:57] <cmn32480> super tasty
[22:23:00] <Bytram> ROFL!
[22:24:22] <cmn32480> ok time to lay the steak on the grill
[22:24:26] <cmn32480> biab
[22:25:14] <Bytram> I'll be heading out the door soon.
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[22:30:48] <Bytram|away> ok, gtg
[22:30:50] <Bytram|away> laters
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