#editorial | Logs for 2016-03-03
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[23:59:52] <takyon> checkm
[22:48:36] <Bytram|away> laters
[22:48:33] * Bytram|away is off to take a nap and then run some errands; story queue is good for the next 8-9 hours or so.
[22:47:34] <Bytram|away> cmn32480: hope you office move goes/went well!
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[21:37:14] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SSD prices plummet again, close in on HDDs | Computerworld ( http://www.computerworld.com )
[21:37:13] <Bytram> http://rss.computerworld.com
[21:37:11] * Bytram has no idea
[21:31:41] * chromas wonders when tvs/dektop displays with LED pixels are comin' out
[21:30:41] <chromas> WebOS eh. I'd forgotten about that
[21:29:46] <Bytram> ^^^ Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Solid State Drive + $25 Dell Gift Card for $159.99 (list price $179.99).
[21:29:30] <Bytram> Also: http://r.zdbb.net
[21:28:45] <Bytram> ^^^ LG 43UF7600 43" 4K UltraHD LED Smart HDTV (120Hz @ 1080p) for $579.99 (list price $1399.99)
[21:28:25] * Bytram dreams: http://r.zdbb.net
[20:56:30] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SN article: DVDFab Won't Try to Decrypt Enhanced AACS Protecting Ultra HD Blu-Rays Following SlySoft Closure 04(37 comments)
[20:56:28] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[20:55:52] <NotAnymore> ^ 03SN article: SlySoft, Creator of AnyDVD, Shuts Down Due to Hollywood Pressure 04(62 comments)
[20:55:50] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[20:00:55] <Bytram> that should be good for a few comments =)
[20:00:34] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Oculus Founder: Rift will come to Mac if Apple “ever releases a good computer” | Ars Technica
[20:00:34] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[20:00:31] <Bytram> :/
[20:00:24] <Bytram> ~titles on
[19:25:06] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[18:18:51] <Bytram> nice!
[18:17:08] <takyon> i sub it
[18:16:47] <Bytram> takyon: I saw the story, too, to my knowledge we have not run it yet.
[17:39:32] <takyon> submitting
[17:24:10] <takyon> not sure if we had an article on that
[17:24:03] <takyon> I remember seeing an article about a preferred way to find alien life: by focusing on stars that would see Earth transiting the sun, just like we find planets by looking for transits using Kepler
[17:18:36] <CoolHand> can't say it's really my cup of tea, but whatever floats your boat I guess... :)
[17:18:01] <CoolHand> :)
[17:17:58] <CoolHand> well, sure is catchy
[17:16:54] <takyon> there's my theme song
[17:16:40] <CoolHand> feelin dat fatigue
[17:15:06] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Death Grips - Takyon (Death Yon) - YouTube
[17:15:05] <takyon> https://www.youtube.com
[17:15:04] <takyon> you're "feeling it"?
[17:13:33] <CoolHand> yes, I expressed that reservation also.. I feel it, but I haven't really been all that into the story, so not sure I"m representative
[17:13:02] <takyon> however I think readers may be getting apple/FBI fatigue
[17:12:52] <takyon> if anything it's a detail I forgot/didn't notice when I submitted a similar article posted a day earlier
[17:12:51] <CoolHand> so, I scheduled another one there, and if we want to run it, we can move it back a bit or move mine
[17:12:23] <CoolHand> takyon: that was my opinion too, but like I said earlier, I haven't followed it all that close, so wasn't sure
[17:06:36] <takyon> meh w/e
[17:06:06] <takyon> bytram
[17:05:56] <takyon> I'm not sure that the Hugh Pickens article is 100% dupe
[15:43:13] <CoolHand> did we decide we're nixing the apple story then?
[13:17:45] <Bytram> yep. I did find it there, but was hoping for it on the submission-display page which DOES have the date/time of the story being accepted.
[13:17:23] <cmn32480> that si when it was accepted for publishing
[13:17:10] <Bytram> found it: Thursday March 03, @12:40AM
[13:17:09] <cmn32480> the page for the IPID has it
[13:16:52] <cmn32480> sure it is
[13:16:42] <Bytram> dang... not easy to find out what time the story was submitted
[13:15:09] <Bytram> nah, story came in pretty late, IIRC
[13:14:57] <Bytram> yeah, was afraid of that.
[13:14:51] * cmn32480 hangs his head in shame
[13:14:42] <cmn32480> shoulda been a merge
[13:14:37] <cmn32480> its a dupe
[13:13:48] <Bytram> anyway, we've had a lot of coverage on the apple stories, I approved one last night by hugh pickens which I noticed this AM kinda dupes one that just came out this AM. flagged it 'not display' and would appreciate another view point
[13:12:15] <Bytram> I still hold this to be true: Wit, is intellect, dancing.
[13:12:12] <cmn32480> no change tehre
[13:12:05] <cmn32480> yep
[13:11:48] <Bytram> we ARE easily amused, it seems.
[13:11:23] <CoolHand> haha
[13:11:18] <Bytram> nograb
[13:11:14] <Bytram> better to shuffle offices than orifices
[13:11:03] <Bytram> it's the apple stories.
[13:10:59] <cmn32480> we are shuffling offices...
[13:10:52] <CoolHand> ditto
[13:10:50] <CoolHand> I hear ya
[13:10:46] <Bytram> got a 'kinda dupe' in the story queue... willing to take a look?
[13:10:44] <cmn32480> sorry... stupid job getting in the way
[13:10:41] <CoolHand> :)
[13:10:34] <CoolHand> cmn32480: !!
[13:10:33] <cmn32480> coolhand !!
[13:10:31] <cmn32480> bytram !!
[13:10:19] <Bytram> cmn32480: !!
[13:10:12] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:10:02] <CoolHand> hey I see cmn32480 on #soylent.. maybe he'll weigh in on your story
[13:09:37] <Bytram> =)
[13:09:35] <Bender> karma - coolhand: 31
[13:09:35] <Bytram> CoolHand++
[13:09:30] <Bender> karma - perseverance: 1
[13:09:30] <Bytram> perseverance++
[13:09:20] <CoolHand> yah, true dat :)
[13:09:18] <Bender> karma - stress: -1
[13:09:18] <Bytram> stress--
[13:09:13] <Bytram> as long as the knocks are on wood and not from "the school of hard..."
[13:08:22] <CoolHand> yeah.. things have been stressful b/c of this big project go-live at work, plus I've been sick on top of it.. (i probably normally would have called in or at least worked from home on Tuesday - go-live day.. but b/c of the project couldn't) but at least I've survived a couple of days of it now with no major breakage *knock on wood* and starting to feel a bit better *knock on wood again*
[13:04:18] <Bytram> otoh, how are YOU doing? long time no chat
[13:04:02] <Bytram> sounds like a plan!
[13:03:44] <CoolHand> I don't have a strong opinion one way or another... you can let it hang for a bit and see if someone else wants to chime in maybe..
[13:03:31] <Bytram> iow leave it 'not display'
[13:03:18] <Bytram> I'd be happy to leave it out
[13:03:12] <CoolHand> :)
[13:03:07] <Bytram> but at midnight, my reasoning skills were a little deficient
[13:02:52] <Bytram> yeah, I thought that, too.
[13:02:41] <CoolHand> I don't know that answer
[13:02:38] <CoolHand> we've ran quite a few stories on it I know, so there's the question of how much is overwhelming, and how much is just right.. :)
[13:02:26] <Bytram> k, thanks!
[13:01:59] <CoolHand> IMHO, it's not a dupe, but more of a different angle on what's been happening.. truth be told, I haven't really kept up on the whole story, but thats what it seems to me..
[12:59:19] <Bytram> sounds intuitively casual to the most obvious observer! ;)
[12:58:51] <CoolHand> sorry I don't magically show up when people ping me.. I haven't figured out how to get a notification through my tmux session to my remote server running my irc client
[12:58:41] <Bytram> much obliged!
[12:58:32] <Bytram> it's the simple things in lifew that are the most precious, sometimes
[12:58:23] <Bytram> yanno, it's a pretty stupid thing, but I get such a charge out of doing that!
[12:58:07] <Bytram> lol
[12:58:04] <CoolHand> :)
[12:58:03] <CoolHand> Bytram: !!
[12:58:00] <Bytram> CoolHand: !!
[12:57:57] <CoolHand> I'll look
[12:57:38] <CoolHand> i'm around
[12:52:04] <Bytram> for the time being, I'm going to uncheck DISPLAY until someone else can decide
[12:51:33] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Error
[12:51:32] <Bytram> scheduled: FBI Error Locked San Bernardino Attacker’s iPhone: https://soylentnews.org
[12:51:10] <NotAnymore> ^ 03- SoylentNews User ( https://soylentnews.org )
[12:51:09] <Bytram> Already out: Apple Lawyer and FBI Director Appear Before Congress: https://soylentnews.org
[12:50:11] <Bytram> I put out a story last night that looks to me to be kind of, but not really, a dupe of one that just went out... need another opinion.
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[12:48:24] <Bytram|away> CoolHand: you around?
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[05:03:08] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[04:56:37] <Deucalion> takyon, that seems sane. I'm just conscious that at some point we will want to move from aggregator to source position... so best not to be a dick about things while we are in aggregation phase :D Long game :)
[04:48:35] <Bytram|away> g'night everyone!
[04:48:34] <Deucalion> ~night Bytram|away
[04:48:29] <Bytram|away> gonna call it a night.
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[04:48:04] <Bytram> and... I just pushed out another story; that makes six for tonight.
[04:47:46] <Bytram> takyon: your submission are usually some of the easiest ones to work with; I'm thinking just keep it in mind in the future -- no drastic changes necessary!
[04:46:35] <takyon> or 0%, completely written copy, which I usually only do on very dense hardware articles due to lots of information available and excitement
[04:45:57] <takyon> best case scenario I'm quoting 10-25% from 1-3 articles
[04:45:31] <takyon> with short pieces on reuters, bbc, etc. I might push that limit to 75%
[04:45:11] <takyon> ideally i don't want to quote more than 50% of TFA
[04:43:31] <Deucalion> I don't get involved in the editing process if I can avoid it, just generically saying make TFS a TFS not a verbatim copy with a one liner at the end. It was not an observation made of you directly takyon, just a meant as a general editorial poke to recognise we aggregate other site's content, therefore we should not republish it lock, stock and barrel but give a nod to the originator we source and push some traffic their way.
[04:30:35] <takyon> or catch it in the editing process
[04:30:20] <takyon> point out examples of mine that you think are too blockquoted if you have specific concerns
[04:30:05] <Bytram> k
[04:30:04] <takyon> I try
[04:27:06] <Deucalion> One observation... can we please keep our TFS to a minimal blockquote of the site we are sourcing with a little more original verbiage please? The trend of blockquoting all but the last sentence or punctuation mark of another site's content is really not cricket. At this point we are parasites in the food chain, let's not kill our hosts mmkay?
[04:21:47] <Bytram> no complaints from here!
[04:21:38] <Bytram> it all takes time; trying to maximize productivity at an acceptable level of quality.
[04:21:04] <takyon> bigger blockquotes, generic intro text
[04:20:55] <takyon> i've gotten lazier with them
[04:20:54] <Bender> karma - takyon: 23
[04:20:54] <Bytram> takyon++
[04:20:50] <Bytram> and, if that is the worst I can find... VERY well done!
[04:20:39] <Bytram> takyon: you make it hard to find anything wrong with your submissions... I gotta find *something* once in a while or I'll start to doubt my QA skills! ;)
[04:19:22] <takyon> k
[04:18:36] <Bytram> takyon: adding links to a couple SN stories on the space-based gravitational wave detector story
[04:17:36] <Bytram> btw, i have not forgotten about trying to write a template and code so that the site goals and receipts could be entered in a normal form, and the nagger could be automatically updated.
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[04:05:01] <mrcoolbp> lol
[04:04:57] <Bytram> ugh, no problem!
[04:04:51] <Bytram> no
[04:04:49] <mrcoolbp> g'night cmn32480
[04:04:39] <mrcoolbp> thanks
[04:04:38] <mrcoolbp> will do
[04:04:36] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: oh damn yeah I haven't updated in a while shit
[04:02:48] * exec problematically drops a goblet of bacon on #editorial
[04:02:46] <cmn32480> ~gnight #editorial
[04:02:00] <cmn32480> HA... that dumps into #soylent regardless of channel called form
[04:01:59] <Bytram> thanks!
[04:01:56] <Bytram> will do!
[04:01:46] <cmn32480> you too bytram
[04:01:30] <Bytram> cmn32480: sleep well, my friend!
[04:01:25] <cmn32480> ~funding
[04:01:15] <Bytram> from what I can tell, there were 10 subs for $20 each!
[04:01:12] <cmn32480> \or sleepy
[04:01:07] <cmn32480> time for em to go speely
[04:01:01] <cmn32480> alright... mine eyes are crossing
[03:59:45] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: when you get a chance, there's been a few subscriptions over the past few days.
[03:58:41] <mrcoolbp> sounds about right
[03:58:01] <Bytram> and then an 11 hour days scheduled for Fri
[03:57:54] <Bytram> have tomorrow off
[03:57:51] <Bytram> kinda tired, but not too bad
[03:57:29] <cmn32480> yick
[03:57:28] <mrcoolbp> how are you?
[03:57:15] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: not bad, I'm beat, I clop-ined today
[03:56:49] <Bytram> appreciated!
[03:56:26] <cmn32480> figured I'd give everybody as early a heads up as possible...
[03:56:16] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: how ya doin?
[03:56:06] <Bender> karma - takyon: 22
[03:56:06] <Bytram> takyon++
[03:55:51] <mrcoolbp> yo Bytram!
[03:55:36] <mrcoolbp> that will help come time
[03:55:13] <takyon> mrcoolbp: i'm going to keep the sub pile full if i can
[03:55:01] <cmn32480> NOLA
[03:54:56] <takyon> n'awlins
[03:54:52] <cmn32480> I'm gonna eat until I grow fucking gills
[03:54:48] <takyon> oh neat, nawlins
[03:54:40] <cmn32480> the seafood in neworleans is excellent
[03:54:38] <takyon> cmn32480: like what?
[03:54:31] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: !!
[03:54:21] <mrcoolbp> takyon, Bytram, let me know if you need my help, especially monday I might be able to chuck a few in the queue
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[03:54:15] <cmn32480> 4 days away with just me adn the wife... I can think of a few other thigns to do
[03:53:56] <cmn32480> will do what I can... but I don't think it will be much if anything
[03:53:54] <mrcoolbp> understood cmn32480:
[03:53:35] <takyon> ok
[03:53:32] <Bytram> cmn32480: acknowledged
[03:52:51] <exec> editor ping for cmn32480 (reason: ^^^^): janrinok LaminatorX n1 nick martyb Bytram Azrael mrcoolbp cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away NotSanguine
[03:52:50] <cmn32480> ~eds ^^^^
[03:52:31] <cmn32480> odds are that I will NOT be posting anything or nearly anything
[03:51:44] <cmn32480> the kicker is that J is coming with, so I will be MIA basically that entire time.
[03:51:27] <cmn32480> just a heads up - I will be leaving early Sunday morning and not returning until Wednesday night on business
[03:36:00] <Bytram> 2nding: chesapeak
[03:33:43] <cmn32480> k
[03:33:01] <Bytram> as well as "#ViolatesTheAmericansWithDisabilitiesAct" where it appeared in TWO different URLs
[03:31:53] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Search 'Volkswagen emissions'
[03:31:52] <Bytram> (<a href="https://soylentnews.org/search.pl?&sort=2&op=stories&query=Volkswagen+emissions">Our site's search engine</a> barfs on search terms with fewer than 5 characters and doesn't do synonyms.)
[03:31:51] <Bytram> wrt: VW story; am striking this line:
[03:29:00] <Bytram> updated
[03:28:31] <Bytram> k
[03:25:24] <cmn32480> whcih I think are all on youtube
[03:25:11] <cmn32480> buncha how he built it videos
[03:22:46] <Bytram> anyone else want to see if it is worth loading all the way?
[03:22:26] <NotAnymore> ^ 03Wintergatan
[03:22:25] <Bytram> bummer, need to enable Javascript: http://www.wintergatan.net
[03:19:19] <cmn32480> I thought so
[03:19:12] <Bytram> and... AWESOME machine!
[03:19:05] <Bytram> np
[03:18:58] <cmn32480> thx
[03:18:41] <Bytram> btw, the Wintergatan Marble Machine has its own web site... updating story with link
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