#editorial | Logs for 2016-02-21

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[00:22:16] <takyon> bytram|away
[00:22:22] <takyon> or anybody
[00:22:34] <takyon> there are 3 apple submissions
[00:23:07] <takyon> might consider a merge if other submissions can fill in the gaps. running them separate is doable, but could hasten user fatigue
[02:41:29] <cmn32480> just a heads up - tomorrow is a travel day for me.... I'll be on the road until next Saturday afternoon.
[04:52:31] <cmn32480> Deucalion
[04:52:37] <cmn32480> you ahve editorial rights, yes?
[04:52:43] <Deucalion> I think so
[04:53:26] <cmn32480> can you go into an story in the sub queue, hit preview ot get to the editorial screen, and press the preview button again, to see if the screen refreshes, or if I'm jsut screwy tonight?
[04:53:39] <cmn32480> please?
[04:55:40] <Deucalion> which preview button? I see 3 of them on the editorial screen (after hitting preview the 1st time to get in there)
[04:56:01] <cmn32480> any of them. next to the save button
[04:57:13] <Deucalion> OK - hit the one under the "Editors' Notes" box... screen refreshed and I appear to be looking at the self same screen as I was before.
[04:57:30] <cmn32480> ok
[04:57:33] <cmn32480> then it is me...
[04:57:35] <cmn32480> shit
[04:57:45] <cmn32480> thanks!
[04:57:53] <Deucalion> I have JS enabled for SN.org... if that makes any odds
[04:58:04] <cmn32480> ME TOO
[04:58:23] <cmn32480> and I disabled greasmonkey jic
[04:58:55] <cmn32480> I need to get a few stories in the queue... then go to bed. I have a plane to catch tomorrow
[04:58:55] <Deucalion> browser and OS?
[04:59:09] <cmn32480> Win7, FF 44.0.2
[05:00:27] <cmn32480> worked up until I started messing wiht the commetns on dev
[05:02:44] <Deucalion> hmm... you reboot since that FF 44.0.2 update? When I got that one on Linux Mint, FF would not behave even after killing the process, I had to restart the box to get it to behave. But that had symptoms of issues with DNS resolution that would not rectify. Worth keeping a PaleMoon around with a profile sans addons for sites you trust. Dunno if they do a Win build though.
[05:03:04] <cmn32480> yeah
[05:03:08] <cmn32480> updated weeks ago
[05:03:19] <cmn32480> they do
[05:04:38] <cmn32480> fucking JS
[05:04:52] <cmn32480> the addon that was supposed to turn it on and off, only turned it off, not back on
[05:05:02] <cmn32480> crisis averted
[05:05:10] <cmn32480> Thanks Deucalion
[05:05:16] <Deucalion> More and more I am leaning toward segmenting my browsing within VMs... TAILS looks nice for that kind of segmentation.
[05:05:32] <cmn32480> yeah
[05:06:11] <Deucalion> Anyway, happy packing... I hope you are getting paid to fly on a Sunday :/
[05:06:22] <cmn32480> comp time
[05:06:30] <cmn32480> that I'll never take
[05:06:37] <cmn32480> so... no not really
[05:06:44] <Deucalion> do you get paid it at year end if not taken?
[05:06:51] <cmn32480> but, they are paying for me to take the wife to New Orleans in a couple weeks
[05:07:02] <cmn32480> all expenses
[05:07:07] <cmn32480> no
[05:07:11] <Deucalion> wow
[05:07:33] <cmn32480> if I have to sit around at home with the phone off and my thumb up my ass to use the days I will
[05:08:40] <Deucalion> Don't let the job eat your relationship, it's not worth it - well unless it's paying so much you can retire for good to the Seychelles in 3 years time :D
[05:08:58] <cmn32480> they are paying for me to take her on vacation.
[05:09:29] <cmn32480> flights, food, car, hotel... and my boss encouraged me to take a few extra days off while down there with her
[05:09:47] <cmn32480> so it ain't all bad
[05:13:30] <Deucalion> And so they should given you are away so much.
[05:13:37] <cmn32480> yep
[05:14:10] <cmn32480> but every year, I also get access to the beach front condo for a week or two (at no charge)
[05:14:23] <cmn32480> I get to keep all my frequent flier miles and such
[05:14:43] <cmn32480> and the $$ is pretty good
[05:14:47] <Deucalion> accounting wise that's just a rounding error expense to them no doubt, so don't be too bowled over by it. /me disengages cynic mode
[05:15:00] <cmn32480> you are correct
[05:15:18] <cmn32480> but for me to rent the palce for a week is significant expense
[05:15:35] <cmn32480> so the value they place on it and the value I place on it are different
[05:16:17] <Deucalion> but you need to offset that against being away from family so much of the time.... not sure how one actually values that
[05:16:51] <cmn32480> yeah
[05:17:03] <cmn32480> there is that... right now, it is the job
[05:17:27] <Deucalion> yah, there's always those sodding bills to pay
[05:17:34] <cmn32480> yep
[05:17:41] <Deucalion> tough call
[05:17:55] <cmn32480> and at this point, there is nothign on the horizon that pays better and has me home all the time
[05:18:07] <cmn32480> and I do keep my eyes open adn resume updated
[05:18:40] <cmn32480> but On that note, we are good out to about 10:15am my time.
[05:18:47] <cmn32480> Bytram and the rest ought to be awake by then
[05:18:52] <cmn32480> I'm gonna go pass out
[05:18:54] <Deucalion> mebbe something that pays a little less but has you home all the time could be worth consideration... the bottom line is not all that plays into this equation :D
[05:19:04] <cmn32480> agreed
[05:19:09] <Deucalion> yah, I'm outta here too. Take care
[05:19:14] <cmn32480> but at the moment, I'm paying off debt
[05:19:20] <cmn32480> so it plays pretty heavy
[05:19:30] <cmn32480> ~gnight Deucalion
[05:19:31] <Deucalion> I know your pain.
[05:19:33] * exec covertly blows a coffee++ mug of spew at Deucalion
[05:19:39] <Deucalion> ~gnight cmn32480
[05:19:42] * exec prematurely postulates a tinfoil hat of NCommander towards cmn32480
[14:01:10] <takyon> reading
[14:01:54] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[14:02:22] * Bytram notices that he submitted his Mint Hacked story too late; already one in the queue. :(
[14:03:33] <Bytram> whereto? http://feedproxy.google.com
[14:03:34] <snowfire> ^ 03Russia's amazing moon base: Everything we know - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[14:06:23] <takyon> submit with extreme prejudice
[14:06:31] <takyon> i'll take care of in the next few hours
[14:08:23] <Bytram> much obliged!
[14:08:55] * Bytram has been running on empty for about a week and has been up since 0400 ... ugh. Hope to catch a nap some time today.
[14:14:12] <Bytram> Heh. c|net article about russia's plan for a moon base... "Wherever it ends up on the moon, the base mission looks to be a six-launch effort, with the first pair of shots carrying a lunar lander (much like the one shown here)" which shows a lander with american flag on it and an astronaut planting a US flag! http://www.cnet.com
[14:14:14] <snowfire> ^ 03Russia's amazing moon base: Everything we know - Page 11 - CNET
[14:22:10] <takyon> what the
[14:25:37] <mrcoolbp> O_o
[14:27:05] <mrcoolbp> https://www.newscientist.com
[14:27:07] <snowfire> ^ 03Russia starts moon base collaboration with European Space Agency | New Scientist
[14:27:28] <mrcoolbp> that's from october
[14:28:33] <mrcoolbp> http://tass.ru
[14:28:35] <snowfire> ^ 03TASS: Science Space - Russian manned mission to Moon to require up to six Angara rocket launches — source
[14:36:25] <Bytram> nodnod
[14:42:00] <Bytram> whereto? http://www.bbc.co.uk
[14:42:01] <snowfire> ^ 03'Megacopter' drone breaks world record and other news - BBC News ( http://www.bbc.co.uk )
[15:29:04] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[15:29:37] <Bytram|away> I submitted a couple stories to help pad the sub queue, hopefully we can use 'em!
[15:29:47] <Bytram|away> have a great day everyone, I gtg.
[15:52:32] <mrcoolbp> peace buddy
[15:58:17] <takyon> ok time to start
[18:30:06] <Bytram|away> takyon++ story posting
[18:30:06] <Bender> karma - takyon: 20
[18:30:11] <Bytram|away> oops.
[18:30:14] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[18:30:21] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.rt.com
[18:30:23] <snowfire> ^ 03ISIS shooting video exposed as footage from 'Medal of Honor' — RT News ( https://www.rt.com )
[18:30:28] <cmn32480> trying to post.. but the wifi on this plane is sucking today
[18:30:35] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.rt.com
[18:30:46] <cmn32480> Louisville, again
[18:30:47] <Bytram> cmn32480: !!
[18:30:57] <Bytram> good to 'see' ya!
[18:30:57] <cmn32480> how goes Bytram?
[18:31:10] <cmn32480> somethign like that
[18:31:19] <Bytram> okay. woke at 0400 and couldn't get back to sleep. :/
[18:31:41] <cmn32480> yick
[18:31:46] <Bytram> I see T has posted a few stories so I am 2nding them
[18:31:50] <cmn32480> naptme for bytram?
[18:31:53] <Bytram> I submitted 2-3 stories this am
[18:31:57] <Bytram> after lunch
[18:32:09] <cmn32480> I dumped a few from arthur last inghit
[18:32:10] <Bytram> ummm, nap time will come after lunch
[18:32:17] <Bytram> subs were much earlier this am
[18:32:23] <Bytram> I saw... thanks!
[18:32:26] <Bytram> teamwork++
[18:32:26] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 75
[18:32:40] <cmn32480> yeah.. everybody is pitchign in as best they can
[18:32:50] <Bytram> have you check hof lately?
[18:32:55] <cmn32480> but trying to do this from the road, er , air, is a bitch
[18:33:02] <cmn32480> no... anythign interesting?
[18:33:41] <Bytram> nah, I just passed 1600 is all. ;)
[18:33:53] <cmn32480> nice! ?:-)
[18:34:07] <Bytram> mare sea!
[18:34:19] <cmn32480> and it is good to see you too
[18:34:33] <Bytram> how long will u be out of town?
[18:34:34] <cmn32480> jsut wish I could be actually helpful in this flying cigar
[18:34:41] <cmn32480> home next saturday
[18:34:45] <Bytram> yes, you can... catch a nap!
[18:34:50] <cmn32480> heh
[18:34:56] <Bytram> you'll have little enough rest when you get there.
[18:35:18] <cmn32480> once we get to the hotel, it isn't a big deal. but from the air.. their getconnected page keeps redirecting, even after I am connected
[18:35:39] <cmn32480> hmmm... seems to b a ffx issue
[18:35:43] <cmn32480> siteloaded fine in chrome
[18:35:49] <Bytram> shoudl call it a getrecdirected page
[18:36:19] * cmn32480 grumbles about only having one screen to work from on the plane
[18:36:35] <Bytram> grab somebody else's phone! =)
[18:36:58] <cmn32480> am on my laptop
[18:37:04] <Bytram> ahhh
[18:37:23] <cmn32480> one of the perks of flying Southwest so much is that they give me free wifi
[18:37:33] * Bytram pictues having a couple tablets arrayed around his main screen
[18:37:38] <Bytram> *pictures
[18:38:28] <cmn32480> I have a portable screen... just not wnough room to set it up
[18:38:52] * Bytram helpfully offers a roll of duct tape ??
[18:39:17] * cmn32480 greatfully accepts and puts it someplace safe
[18:39:46] <Bytram> ROFL!!!!!
[18:39:58] <Bytram> You *DO* have your towel, right?
[18:40:10] <cmn32480> can't let duct tape get inot the hands of evil doers... .
[18:40:20] <cmn32480> what kind of stupid question is that?????
[18:40:37] <Bytram> Was just making sure! Don't panic!
[18:40:43] <Bytram> =)
[18:40:46] <cmn32480> lol
[18:41:04] <cmn32480> well played! :-)
[18:41:32] <Bytram> well, time to mash the potatoes... biab
[18:41:50] <cmn32480> have fun.... don't beat them too hard... or they get lumpy
[18:42:49] <Bytram> will do... and you're prolly not old enough to remember 'Leave it to Beaver'
[18:43:07] <cmn32480> only in reruns of the reruns
[18:43:30] * cmn32480 prays that bytram is not dressed as June Clever
[18:43:55] * Bytram is happy to report he is not dressed
[18:44:03] * Bytram does not where dresses
[18:44:09] <Bytram> s/where/wear/
[18:44:11] <exec> <Bytram> does not wear dresses
[18:45:29] * cmn32480 cringes at the thought of bytram not dressed
[18:46:21] * Bytram is looking at: http://www.littlethings.com
[18:47:57] * cmn32480 was reading the missed bacscroll in the other channesl
[18:48:14] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:48:47] <Bytram> afk biab
[19:16:58] <cmn32480> back tongiht
[19:17:03] <cmn32480> come in to land
[19:23:32] -!- nick [nick!~nick@Soylent/Staff/Editor/n1] has joined #editorial
[19:23:32] -!- mode/#editorial [+v nick] by SkyNet
[19:23:53] * Bytram waves a belated goodbye to cmn32480
[19:23:58] <Bytram> nick: !!
[19:24:07] <nick> Bytram: !!
[19:24:18] <Bytram> long time no 'see'! How ARE you?
[19:26:31] <nick> ok i think
[19:26:34] <nick> how have you been good sir?
[19:28:28] <Bytram> working too hard, but finally have some time off this week. =)
[19:28:54] <nick> !!!
[19:28:57] <nick> time off !!!
[19:29:28] <Bytram> yup!!!
[19:29:35] * Bytram smiles a BIG smile
[19:29:54] <Bytram> this story looks interesting: http://phys.org
[19:29:55] <snowfire> ^ 03Common software would have let FBI unlock shooter's iPhone
[19:30:17] <Bytram> (if it had been installed before giving the phone to the shooter in the firstplace)
[19:31:50] <nick> i saw that was mentioned in the Trump thread
[19:35:39] * Bytram must have missed it
[19:36:01] <Bytram> whereto? http://www.itworld.com
[19:36:03] <snowfire> ^ 03DOJ ends probe of utility over IT replacements; no charges filed | ITworld ( http://www.itworld.com )
[19:36:34] * Bytram is alsmost done with the SCE IT story
[19:41:15] <nick> is an interesting story
[19:41:20] <nick> headline is quite awful though
[19:41:39] * Bytram isopen to a suggestion
[19:42:20] <Bytram> no *charges* files against an electricity generating company is kinda nice touch, tho
[19:42:30] <Bytram> s/files/filed/
[19:42:32] <exec> <Bytram> no *charges* filed against an electricity generating company is kinda nice touch, tho
[19:42:59] <nick> that's fine, the wording before that is just hard to read in my opinion
[19:43:06] <Bytram> hold on a sec
[19:43:09] <nick> "ends probe of utility over IT replacements"
[19:43:29] <nick> just does not parse for me
[19:44:09] <Bytram> DOJ files no charges against utility which replaced 500 employees with H1-B workers
[19:44:27] <Bytram> is better?
[19:44:28] <nick> replace 'utility' with SCE or Southern California Edison and it would be ok.
[19:44:49] <Bytram> k
[19:45:03] <nick> just in general, i see no reason why not to mention the company specifically
[19:45:38] <Bytram> trying to keep title from getting too long; makes a mess of the story queue table
[19:46:00] <nick> i just don't like 'utility' instead of the company name
[19:46:09] <Bytram> yep
[19:46:18] <Bytram> saving...
[19:46:18] <nick> wouldn't say 'search engine' or 'software developer' as other examples
[19:46:32] <Bytram> nodnod
[19:46:47] <Bytram> okay, story is up, feel free to take a look / 2nd edit.
[19:47:47] <Bytram> rats! I forgot to include our prior coverage of the story
[19:48:03] <Bytram> three stories:
[19:48:03] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[19:48:05] <snowfire> ^ 03SN article:  Southern California Edison Replacing IT Workers with H-1B Workers 04(76 comments)
[19:48:09] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[19:48:10] <snowfire> ^ 03SN article:  New Data Shows How Companies Abuse the H-1B Program 04(20 comments)
[19:48:14] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[19:48:15] <snowfire> ^ 03SN article:  Senators will Listen to Tech Union Members about H-1B 04(61 comments)
[19:48:16] <nick> make changes you want, im goikng to put dinner in the oven quickly
[19:48:23] <Bytram> k
[19:48:31] <Bytram> so, you are out of the story atm?
[19:49:14] <Bytram> guess so... going in!
[19:50:25] <nick> also, suggest 'no' should be capitalised?
[19:51:46] <Bytram> just a bit
[19:52:18] <Bytram> though a very short word, it carries significant meaning to the title... right you are!
[19:52:58] <Bytram> done! all yours!
[19:56:49] <nick> moved the previous coverage links out of the blockquote, removed the "And" from the start of the second sentence in your side note.
[19:57:02] <Bytram> Apple playing long game story
[19:58:02] <nick> mhm?
[19:58:24] <Bytram> oh. just mentioning what story I wsa
[19:58:46] <Bytram> was working on ... cmn and I had a knack for picking the same one or for scheduliong stories to go out at the same time.
[19:58:58] <Bytram> 2/22 03:42
[19:59:38] <Bytram> through trial and error, we found it helpful to put up a quick comment as to what story we were working on, and then to note what time slot we were looking to use.
[20:02:28] <Bytram> running out of steam... gonna take a nap. Woke up 11hrs ago and couldn't get back to sleep. :/
[20:02:37] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[20:03:56] <Bytram|away> laters
[20:04:57] * nick hat tip
[20:05:03] <nick> rest well
[23:41:38] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[23:44:47] <Bytram> nick: many thanks! It was a much-needed respite!
[23:58:16] <takyon> i'm back
[23:58:24] <takyon> i have 1 story I will def sub
[23:58:28] <takyon> time to look at story list