#editorial | Logs for 2016-02-05

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[00:03:27] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[00:06:40] <Bytram> hi everyone!
[00:07:39] <Bytram> I'm not so sure we want to make the pending story queue visible.
[00:07:49] <Bytram> for one, there is are possible issues with people seeing the posting time, pre-composing 'slanted' replies, and racing to first-post it and garner mind-share.
[00:07:53] <Bytram> also,
[00:08:07] <Bytram> part of what we have working for us is humannature.
[00:08:17] <Bytram> (though speeeled better!)
[00:08:47] <Bytram> there is a well-known effect that happens when you try to do something and DO NOT always succeed.
[00:08:53] <Bytram> but, sometimes you do.
[00:09:15] <Bytram> hitting refresh on the main page to see if there is a new story falls into that category.
[00:09:33] <Bytram> occasionally are rewarded with seeing a newly-posted story.
[00:10:27] <Bytram> you can kinda guess when a new story is due out, but we randomize things a bit so it is NOT *always* exactly 90 minutes apart (or 100 minutes, or whatever)
[00:10:58] <Bytram> so, my vote is to keep the story queue reserved for editors and other staff.
[00:11:00] <Bytram> --
[00:11:03] <Bytram> otoh
[00:11:32] <Bytram> what seems to me to be really needed is a better sense of what stories may need to be moved up in the story queue.
[00:11:41] <Bytram> I know I fall prey to the temptation to leave stories where they are.
[00:11:57] <takyon> bytram
[00:12:03] <takyon> "I'm not so sure we want to make the pending story queue visible."
[00:12:05] <Bytram> even when I sense they are somewhat time-sensitive or of high interest.
[00:12:14] <takyon> b y t r a m
[00:12:25] <Bytram> takyon: t a k y o n
[00:12:42] <takyon> we're talking about Submission links. these are visible when they are submissions, but then are gone when they become stories
[00:13:00] <takyon> we're not talking about making the story visible, just the submissions
[00:13:11] <takyon> WHICH IS POSSIBLE, because you can see it on user pages
[00:13:20] <takyon> *technically possible
[00:13:26] <Bytram> submissions list is always visible.
[00:13:32] <takyon> in some cases its impossible/improbable because of a merged story
[00:13:35] <Bytram> you may need to remember the URL
[00:13:40] <takyon> you[re killing me bytram
[00:14:05] <Bytram> but we post the submissions list regularly when the nag screen pops up (less than 20 stories in the sub queue)
[00:14:38] <takyon> not what im talking about
[00:15:08] <Bytram> ok, do bear in mind I've worked 7 days straight, so I may be missing something obvious. :/
[00:16:43] <takyon> i'm making it in screenshot form
[00:16:47] <Bytram> k
[00:21:56] <takyon> TheMightyBuzzard... inviting you to see my beautiful screenshot
[00:22:23] <takyon> http://puu.sh
[00:23:23] <Bytram> takyon: link for that page?
[00:23:34] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[00:23:35] <shekel> ^✓ 03SoylentNews Submissions ( https://soylentnews.org )
[00:23:45] <Bytram> clicky
[00:23:47] <takyon> make sure to view it while logged out
[00:23:54] <takyon> to see what normal users get to see
[00:24:06] <takyon> which is what the Anonymous Coward was complaining about on that journal
[00:24:25] <takyon> this is the combined story list/submissions list for normal or not logged in users
[00:24:36] <Bytram> okay... give me a minute to load a new browser and load the page.
[00:24:40] <takyon> k
[00:25:19] <Bytram> when did we start publishing pending stories? That is news to me!
[00:26:21] <Bytram> afk brb
[00:27:01] <takyon> i'm saying we link pending stories to original submissions
[00:27:24] <Bytram> and not to the edited story that is pending to go out?
[00:27:27] <takyon> this is even possible with mergers, because merges create a new submission
[00:27:29] <takyon> yes
[00:27:59] <Bytram> well, you saw what I wrote earlier... I'd vote to remove the pending story list altogether.
[00:28:32] <takyon> we'll see what users think about a feature regression rather than enhancement O_O
[00:28:48] <takyon> well w/e, i've laid the case out there
[00:28:53] <takyon> I have to submit 2 more stories
[00:28:56] <Bytram> understood.
[00:29:58] <Bytram> on second thought, what if we removed the scheduled posting date/time, AND linkify the story title?
[00:30:57] <takyon> I'm not sure "issues with people seeing the posting time, pre-composing 'slanted' replies, and racing to first-post it and garner mind-share" is a valid or pressing scenario that needs to be addressed by removing info from pending stories
[00:31:30] <takyon> if anybody's guilty of pre-composing, it's moi. I'm sure that I composed a lengthy comment for an unreleased story at least twice
[00:31:53] <takyon> mostly that's for time's sake, so I don't have to rush around doing research
[00:32:53] <Bytram> which reminds me, there was a time when editors were able to post comments to a story before it went live. Or so I recall. I have been unable to do that for the longest while.
[00:33:33] <takyon> i've tried to do that. I'd love to (since it would allow me to comment and then go to sleep), but I understand how that would be an abuse on our part
[00:34:29] <Bytram> it was intended to be a feature so that the story could be issued in a neutral way, and any editorializing could be added *separately*
[00:45:07] <Bytram> of late, we have been placing any editorial additions 'below the line' (i.e. following the <hr> tag)
[00:55:51] <Bytram> cmn32480: !!
[00:56:05] <cmn32480> heya bytram !!
[00:56:12] <Bytram> how ya be?
[00:59:35] <cmn32480> I'm tired
[00:59:40] <cmn32480> and I agree w/ takyon
[00:59:56] <cmn32480> taking info out woudl be a problem, and we SHOULD give them access to the queue.
[01:00:03] <cmn32480> view access I mean
[01:00:37] <takyon> all these submission links are already available on the user pages of the submitters - they are just inconvenient to access
[01:01:38] <cmn32480> so this is what the site looks like logged out....
[01:02:01] <takyon> i know right
[01:02:03] <takyon> the dark ages
[01:02:36] <cmn32480> yeah
[01:02:46] <cmn32480> biab.. gotta go give the girl a bath
[01:04:38] * Bytram hums rubber ducky, you're the one...
[01:22:05] <Bytram> http://www.eurekalert.org
[01:22:05] <shekel> ^ 03Bears' seasonal hibernation linked to changes in gut microbes | EurekAlert! Science News
[01:22:12] <Bytram> http://www.eurekalert.org
[01:22:12] <shekel> ^ 03Gut microbes trigger fat loss in response to cold temperatures | EurekAlert! Science News
[01:22:27] <Bytram> time to do the dishes... biab
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[01:39:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, aware of this. currently pondering making them clickable for next release. will discuss it with folks when i'm not all stuffed up with dinner and ready for a nap.
[01:42:54] <Bytram> whereto: http://feedproxy.google.com
[01:42:56] <shekel> ^ 03GPS spelling mistake sends American the wrong way, and onto TV - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[01:47:58] <Bytram> Mr Ed, redux? http://www.cnet.com
[01:47:58] <shekel> ^ 03Horse photobombs prize-winning selfie; beast's owner seethes - CNET
[02:52:07] <cmn32480> bytram - think we ought to bin the forbes meta story?
[02:52:18] <Bytram> be my guest
[02:52:35] <cmn32480> I commend the to the ether....
[02:52:59] <Bytram> ether oar?
[02:53:18] <cmn32480> nah.. that'll cause a row
[02:53:20] <Bytram> kneether gnor
[02:53:37] <cmn32480> boat I think you may be on to something
[02:53:44] * Bytram is rethinkning the wisdom of merging two stories
[02:54:00] <cmn32480> you can still un-merge them
[02:54:13] <cmn32480> BUT you ahve to accept the individual subs from the merge to do it
[02:54:47] <Bytram> yea, I'm using the 'orignial Submission 1' and 'org sub 2' links to start off and then going from there
[02:54:54] <cmn32480> yep
[02:59:09] <cmn32480> hey! we got a submission from zz_janrinok
[02:59:49] <Bytram> he figured out how to submit a story while sleeping? Yowza!
[03:00:03] <cmn32480> he IS pretty talented
[03:01:00] <Bytram> you got THAT right!
[03:01:04] <Bytram> and, he's prolific
[03:01:19] <cmn32480> I read prolific as profalactic
[03:01:27] <cmn32480> I don't know why
[03:01:29] <Bytram> that is MUCH better than amateur-lific
[03:04:15] <cmn32480> saved quantum computeing at 1846
[03:04:42] <Bytram> nope, I already had one up for 1849
[03:05:02] <cmn32480> no
[03:05:09] <cmn32480> and there still isn't... even after a refresh
[03:05:37] <Bytram> I'm seeing it in the 'story admin' sidebox
[03:05:47] <Bytram> it's story 2 of the two merged stories.
[03:05:58] <Bytram> I'd not saved it, but it IS in the list
[03:06:08] <cmn32480> it is NOT in the list until saved
[03:07:03] <cmn32480> until saved, YOU are the only one that sees the story in the list at that point in time
[03:07:23] <Bytram> no-see-um, eh?
[03:07:28] <cmn32480> precisely
[03:07:30] <Bytram> is fine
[03:07:58] <Bytram> UI is less than entirely user-friendly
[03:08:06] <cmn32480> just figured that out?
[03:08:44] <Bytram> nah, I knew it had its warts, but I keep finding NEW ones. :P
[03:57:11] <cmn32480> I'm done for the night
[03:57:15] <cmn32480> time for bed
[03:57:49] <cmn32480> ~gnight bytram
[03:57:51] * exec dexterously tosses a blagoblag of beer to bytram
[03:58:13] <Bytram> cmn32480: sleep well, my friend....sweet dreams!
[03:59:00] <cmn32480> you too my friend
[03:59:04] <cmn32480> I hope youa re off tomorrow
[03:59:15] <Bytram> nope, work fri and sat
[03:59:26] <Bytram> days 8 and 9
[03:59:26] <cmn32480> so 10 days in a row
[03:59:31] <cmn32480> yick
[03:59:32] <Bytram> oh, ya, 9 and 10
[03:59:41] <Bytram> only 4hrs on sat
[04:00:03] <Bytram> tmrrw I work the late shift someting like 1pm-9;15pm
[04:00:09] <cmn32480> woof
[04:00:13] <Bytram> meaow?
[04:00:15] <cmn32480> well... get some rest
[04:00:17] <Bytram> ;)
[04:00:19] <cmn32480> night
[04:00:22] <Bytram> yeah, I will
[04:00:27] <Bytram> just D/L latest pale moon
[04:00:32] <Bytram> time to try it out
[04:00:38] <cmn32480> have fun
[04:00:43] <Bytram> will do
[04:00:56] <Bytram> btw, that lappy is still going strong!
[04:01:07] * Bytram smiles
[04:01:41] * Bytram waits for PM to load 41 tabs
[09:53:24] <takyon> Moxie Marlinspike story has a problem
[09:53:40] <takyon> there are tweets from December 2015, which goes against what the story says
[09:53:56] <takyon> and there are two NFL stories that should be merged
[09:54:16] <takyon> i will put note on moxie story
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[10:03:41] <takyon> I added the note to the story, but considering what was already changed in the story, what else could be wrong?
[10:03:51] <takyon> moxie marlinspike story
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[14:00:48] <Bytram> takyon++ thanks for updating moxie story
[14:00:48] <Bender> karma - takyon: 19
[14:01:19] <Bytram> as for the NFL story, I tried merging 'em at first, but ended up with a MUCH too long story; decided to run separately, instead.
[14:01:53] <Bytram> btw, I was looking back at our first year anniversary story:
[14:02:00] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[14:02:03] <shekel> ^ 03SN article:  SoylentNews is One Year Old! 04(92 comments)
[14:02:04] <Bytram> and saw this comment:
[14:02:06] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[14:02:07] <shekel> ^ 03SN comment by [02unitron (70)] (02Score:2)
[14:02:57] <Bytram> to wit: "Can we have a separate story... ...on what led up to the creation of SN in the first place?"
[14:04:06] <Bytram> I have cataloged some milestones, but I missed the very initial stages of the site.
[14:11:55] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[15:07:30] <nick> 'what lead to the creation' could be seen as a complex issue, unless we'd ignore the original 'owner' or whatever
[15:08:39] <mrcoolbp> ignoring Barrabas's input is a bastardazation of the story, not defending him but he had a lot to do with it
[15:09:05] <nick> that is my point
[15:09:50] <nick> it's not a clean cut 'slashdot fucked up, some people in the community decided to take a non-commercial approach using old slashcode'
[15:13:17] <cmn32480> If we tell the story.. put it all out there, complete with links to the old transcripts
[15:13:48] <mrcoolbp> If we were to write that story, we should ping some of the long lost members to see if they would contribute? I don't know the whole story myself, by the time I was accepted into the ranks, the site was about to go live. I have a few stories, sure, but the genesis piece is missing a bunch from my perspective
[15:14:18] <cmn32480> I think for most of the current active staff that is the case.
[15:14:24] <nick> sure, i didn't come in until after it went live
[15:14:42] <cmn32480> I was an early reader, but didn't coem on staff until 2015
[15:15:20] <nick> i only came on staff because janrinok asked, at the start it felt like a very closed shop
[15:15:40] <mrcoolbp> yeah there was a bit of vetting for the early editors
[15:15:48] <mrcoolbp> I seem to remember them asking for a writing sample
[15:16:04] <mrcoolbp> probably could of provided one but ended up being the wiki guru instead
[15:16:28] <mrcoolbp> they wanted to keep the quality of editing high = )
[15:16:43] <nick> you can only polish a turd so much
[15:17:24] <cmn32480> ealry editors were vetterd
[15:17:50] <nick> i don't know how valuable the internal politics of the beginning are, they certainly shouldn't be forgotten, but i don't know how relevant it is in the bigger picture
[15:18:05] <cmn32480> then there are the rest of us
[15:18:38] <mrcoolbp> I didn't necessarily mean the politics, I meant the more crowd-sourced ideas and work that lead to launch, some of which is still on the wiki
[15:18:42] <mrcoolbp> actually a lot of it is
[15:19:00] <mrcoolbp> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[15:19:01] <shekel> ^ 03Wiki: Archive
[15:19:11] <nick> my point is, if the question is why the site exists, everyone is going to have their own nuances and personal reasons
[15:19:35] <nick> beta might have been the final straw, but it's quite a subjective thing really
[15:19:50] <mrcoolbp> I think that can be appropriately summed up nick: we exist because of the will of a community
[15:19:54] <cmn32480> agreed, but if we are going to tell the story of how the site came to be, the politics and disagreements are a part of that, at some points, a very large part
[15:20:04] <nick> i agree
[15:20:12] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: in some ways yes, others less so IMO
[15:20:17] <mrcoolbp> I was right in the middle of it
[15:20:23] <mrcoolbp> I still have some of the old emails
[15:20:25] <cmn32480> I was on the outside
[15:21:00] <nick> Barrabas had a very different vision for the site from pretty much anyone else, but at the start it was his
[15:21:04] <mrcoolbp> honestly I think a lot of it would be boring (most of the drama was over which OS to use on the servers)
[15:21:08] <cmn32480> and only saw what was posted publicly on IRC or the site
[15:21:21] <nick> so i don't really know how that kind of beginning can be summed up appropriately
[15:21:37] <mrcoolbp> nick: he did disagree with the community in some cases, but he wasn't as bad as everyone remembers in that regard IMO
[15:21:47] <mrcoolbp> his issues came from his management
[15:21:57] <mrcoolbp> IMO
[15:22:41] <nick> i'm mostly thinking of his very much 'for-profit' perspective on it, was much more of a commercial enterprise than a news and community forum
[15:23:18] <mrcoolbp> I do recall now that he was leaning towards cashing in on it but I believe he yeilded eventually on that point
[15:23:48] <nick> i'm pretty sure part of that yielding was quitting
[15:24:26] <nick> there was no ROI to be had with the community as it stood, so he cut his losses on it
[15:24:43] <mrcoolbp> most of the dissagreement I remember was over how he was managing the staff, and the OS issue was never really resolved, which lead to key programmers dissapearing without a trace, NC all by himself basically (and pj?) which pissed NC off, discussions between NC and B detiriorated until it was no longer amicable
[15:24:50] <nick> i could be wrong about that, but i was here, on the outside and that's what i got from it.
[15:25:16] <mrcoolbp> nick: well his actions after all the disagreement suggested that, but like I said I got a different perspective
[15:25:20] <cmn32480> that is what I remember
[15:25:28] <nick> sure
[15:25:45] <nick> but this is even more to my point, we all have our own ideas and opinions on the early days
[15:25:46] <cmn32480> there is also plenty of doc on this
[15:25:55] <nick> so it probably would be good, if we do a story on 'the beginning'
[15:26:03] <nick> to get a little something from the people who were around then
[15:26:10] <cmn32480> first ther was light
[15:26:10] <mrcoolbp> I'm hesistent to try to defend him though as I will surely be pitchforked by all those that saw the side of it you are seeing, plus, I don't deny he really screwed us over in the end (in a sort of childish reaction to the arguements)
[15:26:17] <nick> their perspective of why they were involved, their motivations etc
[15:26:19] <cmn32480> and it turned out to be the Turbo button on a 486
[15:26:34] <mrcoolbp> llo
[15:27:09] <nick> mrcoolbp: it is important to not forget about that, we don't want to sanitise the history
[15:27:17] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[15:27:20] <shekel> ^ 03SN article:  On John's Departure ... 04(152 comments)
[15:27:29] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[15:27:33] <shekel> ^ 03SN article:  Unconfirmed Purchase Transaction Reported 04(234 comments)
[15:27:38] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[15:27:39] <shekel> ^ 03Search SoylentNews
[15:27:47] <nick> if we can admit to the drama and the bullshit, that's not a bad thing, rather than glossing it over as 'creative differences' or whatever
[15:28:15] <nick> 'x parted ways with the rest of the community to pursue other interests and we wish them well'
[15:28:16] <cmn32480> that last link shoudl give all the stories that NC has posted... particularly the ones from the early testing, and the time of the great uheaval in leadership
[15:29:47] <mrcoolbp> lol: "The only reason we even have staff email addresses is due to mrcoolbp collecting them all independently. "
[15:30:03] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[15:30:03] <shekel> ^✓* 03SN article:  SoylentNews is One Year Old! 04(92 comments)
[15:30:05] <mrcoolbp> and B actually asked me to do that = p
[15:30:12] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[15:30:15] <shekel> ^ 03SN article:  State of the Site: 02/23/2014 04(108 comments)
[15:31:43] <mrcoolbp> and this is what I'm talking about: "Issues started coming to a head about two weeks ago, due to an internal dispute on the operating system of choice for being run on what would be the final production systems (to date, we're still on the two Linode 2048s I setup at launch), and what the development systems would be. The decision was made without consulting all of the sys team, nor were
[15:31:43] <mrcoolbp> other teams such as dev consulted at all (and as a member of both teams, I at the very least would have liked to been informed)."
[15:32:19] <nick> i do actually remember that now
[15:32:33] <mrcoolbp> then he was working from China
[15:32:44] <mrcoolbp> then Panama
[15:32:53] <mrcoolbp> all the while keeping us up and running
[15:33:04] <cmn32480> crazy times
[15:33:09] <mrcoolbp> yah
[15:33:34] <nick> seems crazy it's been 2 years
[15:35:21] <cmn32480> there is a lot of information available.
[15:35:43] <cmn32480> I woudl wager that there are IRC logs around as well. I remember that in the articles above, some are linked to
[15:36:04] <mrcoolbp> The last straw was actually after this bit: "For John's stake in this, I have discussed the matter privately with him, and I will compensate him of his costs once I return to the United States"
[15:36:44] <mrcoolbp> when they went to settle, B wanted to be compensated for a $500 gift he gave NC (spanish learning materials so he could decipher spanish text docs on slashcode)
[15:37:04] <mrcoolbp> that lead to the great $2000 offer to basically sell the site to whomever
[15:37:16] <mrcoolbp> which ended up being matt, our gaurdian angel
[15:37:23] <mrcoolbp> (he's a great guy)
[15:37:58] <mrcoolbp> Oh man I remember so vividly the first time we spoke with him on IRC, we were....rather unsettled and probably not the nicest bunch
[15:38:05] <cmn32480> and since then... we have been remarkably stable... all things considered
[15:38:13] <nick> a lot of great people have worked on the site over the last couple years
[15:38:13] <mrcoolbp> we grilled him and he cooked up quite nicely to a perfect medium rare = )
[15:38:30] <nick> lol
[15:38:45] * cmn32480 wonders how many of the original crew woudl contribute to that article
[15:39:18] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: sometimes I like to site back and see what we have accomplished, the vast majority of that work goes to the on-going thankless efforts of the Editorial team, so "thanks" guys
[15:39:46] <mrcoolbp> dev team is a close second, imagine what they could do with even just one or two more sets of hands/keyboards
[15:40:26] <nick> it has been an education for me, working on editorial
[15:40:36] <mrcoolbp> y'all are the best
[15:40:58] <mrcoolbp> I simply don't have the time to edit on a daily basis, but if you guys ever need a hand I hope y'all know to call on me
[15:41:15] <nick> it's teamwork, we do what we can and we all work together
[15:42:06] <mrcoolbp> I miss mattie_p
[15:42:08] <mrcoolbp> = (
[15:42:52] <nick> the thing about editing is, whilst an individual story may not take much time at all, it takes energy to read and comprehend a dozen submissions and articles to have any degree of quality control
[15:42:57] <nick> what happened to him?
[15:43:24] <nick> last i recall hearing was medical emergencies with his family? that was a long time ago though
[15:45:39] <mrcoolbp> he moved, had a family, he meant to come back but I think life just got in the way
[15:46:01] <mrcoolbp> I emailed a few of those that just kind of slipped away once or twice, but eventually I just didn't want to bother them anymore
[15:46:15] <nick> understood
[15:47:01] <nick> i'd love to contribute more, and i could, but i want to add value and signal to the site, if editing is a chore, i'm not going to help improve the site quality
[15:48:13] <nick> be like any other editor working any other news site, grinding content for those page clicks and word/article targets.
[15:48:26] <mrcoolbp> eek yah, it's a tough balance
[15:49:31] <nick> we don't have the resources to be timely and keep the content running
[15:50:57] <mrcoolbp> I think what we are doing is fullfilling our original mission, and we are doing great at that right now
[15:51:02] <nick> as much as i'd like to prioritise soylentnews, i can't justify it, nor give the effort it deserves, when i'm self-employed and have a half a dozen job sites active.
[15:51:14] <mrcoolbp> if in the future we can do more, but if not, we basically are accomplishing our goal on a daily basis
[15:51:25] <nick> same for others i'm sure, know cmn32480 is a very busy man
[15:51:46] <mrcoolbp> yeah, the type of people that we tend to get as volunteers tend to be quite busy
[15:52:06] <mrcoolbp> says a lot about us that we aren't just a bunch of lazy slobs
[15:52:12] <nick> i wish i could spend my days writing and editing, but that's sadly not what keeps the lights on.
[15:52:22] <mrcoolbp> exacktlee
[15:54:02] <nick> at the moment, it's hard enough to keep up with headlines, like most people i know, do not have the energy or brainpower to read the news after work
[15:54:44] <nick> that's before you're even talking about analysing and deciphering the actual news from tfa/tfs
[15:54:51] <cmn32480> sorry. had one of my techs come in with a batch of questions on a wireless survey he did yesterday
[15:54:52] <mrcoolbp> when I was doing the most heavy work on the site, it was a blessing when I actually had time to read/comment!
[15:55:03] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: no prob man
[15:55:09] <nick> no excuses cmn32480, we're the most important thing going!
[15:55:12] <mrcoolbp> lol
[15:55:21] <mrcoolbp> says the guy that can't prioritize SN
[15:55:24] <nick> ;)
[15:55:27] <cmn32480> yes, dad... I'll try harder sir
[15:55:34] <cmn32480> jsut don't tell mrcoolbp to cut my pay again
[15:55:44] <cmn32480> I'm already living under the bridge w/ MDC
[15:55:47] * mrcoolbp cuts all editor pay by 50%
[15:55:48] <nick> lol
[15:55:58] <nick> do we still get our overtime rate?
[15:56:02] <cmn32480> well... guess I won't be making payments on the tent this month
[15:56:03] <mrcoolbp> sure
[15:56:17] * cmn32480 downgrades to a large regrigerator box
[15:56:19] * mrcoolbp hands cmn32480 a tarp
[15:56:34] <nick> you could do a duet with MDC to make some $
[15:56:43] * mrcoolbp shudders
[15:57:20] <mrcoolbp> Okay, gotta get some stuff done before work, ping me if you guys actually start writing that story
[15:57:21] * cmn32480 reads the backscrooll
[15:58:14] * cmn32480 passes on the duet idea
[15:58:32] <cmn32480> have a good day mrc!
[16:01:28] * nick hat tip in mrc's direction
[16:02:08] <nick> hows things, cmn32480 ?
[16:02:38] <cmn32480> busy as hell nick
[16:02:42] <cmn32480> how 'bout you?
[16:03:20] <cmn32480> got 2 people (of 5) out sick, a new section of the office that requires some TLC before we can move in, and the tech support stuff form custoemrs keeps rolling in
[16:03:27] <nick> same, the week started off really good, busy but things going well, devolved into some real shit by today
[16:13:02] <takyon> is someone not going to merge the NFL stories
[16:13:20] <takyon> ok I see
[16:20:48] <cmn32480> takyon - no
[16:20:53] <cmn32480> they were super huge
[16:21:06] <cmn32480> massiver wall of text so bytram un-merged
[16:21:15] <takyon> ok
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