#editorial | Logs for 2016-01-25

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[01:42:26] <Bytram|away> http://deadspin.com
[01:42:32] <PC-Police> ^ 03Time Inc. Is In The Midst Of A Replyallpocalypse
[01:45:11] <cmn32480> 10-4 good buddy
[01:52:07] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[01:52:25] <Bytram> how well have you recovered after the storm?
[01:52:44] <cmn32480> my back is kinda sore...
[01:52:46] <cmn32480> my arms too
[01:53:01] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:53:08] <cmn32480> but Dad has decided he wants a new snow blower since his didn't perform to spec
[01:53:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, gravis found a bug you missed.
[01:53:25] <Bytram> can't help but think of wehat kind of shape you'd be in if you did NOT have a snow blower!
[01:53:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> hang your head in shame
[01:53:36] <Bytram> nice. which one.
[01:53:38] <cmn32480> so I'ma get a neused one that might be older than me
[01:53:48] <cmn32480> i can
[01:53:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> something with url2html
[01:53:54] <cmn32480> flat on my back at the morgue
[01:54:02] <Bytram> lol
[01:54:17] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: what does that do?
[01:54:38] <cmn32480> but I did dig out the neighbor whose husband died a few months back
[01:54:45] <Bytram> is that the [url http://foo.com converter?
[01:54:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> borks when transforming a url into a link
[01:54:46] <cmn32480> got a big hug as payment
[01:54:51] <PC-Police> ^ 03( http://www.foo.com )
[01:55:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[01:55:02] <PC-Police> ^✓* 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:2)
[01:55:08] <Bytram> hmmm, never used it. splains why I didn't notice it.
[01:55:16] <Bytram> hugs++
[01:55:16] <Bender> karma - hugs: 1
[01:56:21] <Bytram> I noticed those when I was at work and viewing on my phone... thot it might come from the url space bug getting fixed
[01:58:01] <cmn32480> oooo url's in space!
[01:58:06] <cmn32480> that's outta this world!
[01:58:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> PIGS! IN! SPAAAAAAAAAAACE!
[01:58:40] <Bytram> LOL!
[01:58:42] <cmn32480> LOL!
[01:58:45] <cmn32480> ninja'd
[01:59:07] <cmn32480> "Rest assured we already have this situation firmly resolved here at SN. Anyone proposing a code of conduct here shall get some variation of the following answer: Fuck off, SJW cunt. And, yes, that is official SN dev team policy."
[01:59:13] <Bytram> wasn't that back from the early /. days? ISTR it may even hearken to chipsanddips ??
[02:00:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> pigs in space? no, that was from the muppet show.
[02:00:24] <Bytram> ahh, right.
[02:00:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, ya, me and pj and nc discussed it back last time i saw a coc article.
[02:01:17] <cmn32480> I propose this change: We accept all viewpoints, but will not accept being told how we must act by some SJW code of conduct. This is the policy of the Soylentnews Staff."
[02:01:36] <cmn32480> I'd just rather not use the word cunt in a published summary
[02:01:46] <Bytram> ISTR there was *something* on the green site that was long those lines; in a slashbox, maybe?
[02:01:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[02:02:02] <Bytram> biab dishes
[02:02:16] <cmn32480> need a drink... brb
[02:03:44] <cmn32480> back
[02:04:12] <cmn32480> what do you think abotu the cahnge buzzard?
[02:04:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can *!&^ out the middle of the bad words and put an ed note in saying that our official policy is not fit for publication if you like.
[02:04:44] <cmn32480> mmmmm pretzel topped with softened Rollo topped with extra large M&M
[02:04:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> but that was tame compared to what pj and nc actually said
[02:05:25] <cmn32480> fair enough
[02:06:27] <cmn32480> t some variation of the following answer: "Fuck off, SJW c**t." And, yes,
[02:06:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[02:06:40] <cmn32480> deal
[02:06:44] <cmn32480> I'm felxible
[02:06:56] <cmn32480> and that is better than being flexible
[02:07:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> <insert anatomical reference here> would work as well
[02:07:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> just don't forget those will need to be < and > instead of <>
[02:08:18] <cmn32480> oooooo
[02:08:21] <cmn32480> too late
[02:10:13] <Bytram> back, and it looks like I missed out on something here... what's going on?
[02:10:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[02:10:38] <PC-Police> ^✓* 03SN Submission by The Mighty Buzzard: Activist Tries to Push CoC Into Ruby
[02:10:56] * Bytram clicks
[02:10:57] <cmn32480> [Ed. Note: The official policy above has been adjusted for language suitable to our audience. The words used in the original conversation about this topic were not fit for publication.]
[02:11:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i alllllmost put a k at the enc of CoC just to see if yall would catch it
[02:11:19] <cmn32480> s/audience/community/
[02:11:21] <exec> <cmn32480> [Ed. Note: The official policy above has been adjusted for language suitable to our community. The words used in the original conversation about this topic were not fit for publication.]
[02:11:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds good
[02:12:07] <cmn32480> k
[02:12:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> and funny, being as we're talking about speech policing =P
[02:12:50] <Bytram> umm, by what consensus was this 'official dev policy' created?
[02:12:55] <cmn32480> I'm not policing it, I'm saying it isn't fit for the breadth of out audience.
[02:13:00] <cmn32480> TMB, PJ, and NC
[02:13:04] <cmn32480> that'd be the dev team
[02:13:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, me, pj, and nc talking about it a couple weeks ago
[02:13:28] * Bytram must have missed that discussion
[02:13:39] <Bytram> I take it, then, that I am not part of the dev team.
[02:13:49] <cmn32480> is this official policy posted on the breakroom wall?
[02:13:53] <cmn32480> nope
[02:13:56] <cmn32480> you is QA
[02:14:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> course ya are, yer just no more the boss than i am =P
[02:14:54] <Bytram> would just like it to be known that though I understand the position, that in no way reflects the way that I would phrase it.
[02:15:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, you're much nicer than pj when he's in a mood.
[02:17:40] <cmn32480> so what am I doing?
[02:17:44] <cmn32480> publish as is?
[02:17:51] <cmn32480> remove the anitomical reference
[02:18:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[02:18:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> hold it and i'll go have a smoke n think on it.
[02:26:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> here at SN. Unfortunately our official response is not fit for publishing in an article, even here, but it boils down to a very firm No. If you'd like the unvarnished version, ask on IRC.
[02:27:57] <Bytram> and, if I may ask, what is it about the 'Contributor Convenant' that warrants such a STRONGLY worded response?
[02:28:44] <Bytram> I have generally found it best to follow "Say what you mean, mean what you say, but don't say it mean."
[02:28:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, check the comments. The Contributor Covenant people stalk you on twitter and otherwise outside the site for "gotcha"s
[02:29:15] <Bytram> okay, you're talking about a nunchof self-appointed 'enforcers' ??
[02:29:21] <Bytram> s/nun/bun/
[02:29:23] <exec> <Bytram> okay, you're talking about a bunchof self-appointed 'enforcers' ??
[02:29:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[02:29:27] <Bytram> hmmm
[02:29:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're proper sjws
[02:29:52] <Bytram> ok, so I better understand the context, thank you.
[02:29:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[02:30:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> like they would have had a field day with me telling mercedes carerra that she rides a dick like her ass has hydraulics earlier today
[02:30:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> or really half of what i say on the site
[02:31:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> re: above, she's a porn star and took it as a well deserved compliment
[02:32:00] <Bytram> 'Here at SN, we generally try and be open about people and their interests and contributions but wish to not find ourselves cast into a mode of watching our backs for those who would take no greater pleasure than to stalk all contributors and report perceived violations."
[02:32:20] <Bytram> too wordy, yes
[02:32:48] <Bytram> offer it as a starting point for refinement
[02:33:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, honestly, we're not interested in our interests outside irc chatter. the code is what matters to the dev team and not much else.
[02:33:16] <cmn32480> Rest assured we already have this situation firmly resolved here at SN. Unfortunately our official response to those who would propose a code of conduct is not fit for publishing in an article, even here, but it boils down to a very firm No. If you'd like the unvarnished version, ask on IRC.
[02:34:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless i'm missing something
[02:34:08] * Bytram dons devil's advocate cap: "Why not? What do you have against people who are different or who things differently?"
[02:34:10] <cmn32480> w/ a link ot the IRC client
[02:35:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i don't care if they're different or wanna dress up as a stuffed animal and molest a poodle. i care if their code is good. the rest is just irc banter.
[02:35:20] <cmn32480> Rest assured we already have this situation firmly resolved here at SN. We welcome all who wish to contribute. Unfortunately our official response to those who would propose a code of conduct is not fit for publishing in an article, even here, but it boils down to a very firm No. If you'd like the unvarnished version, please feel free to ask on IRC.
[02:35:49] <Bytram> how about: Rest assured we already have this situation firmly resolved here at SN. Our official response to those who would propose a code of conduct boils down to a very firm No. If you'd like the unvarnished version, ask on IRC.
[02:36:44] <cmn32480> IO'm fine w/ that.
[02:36:48] <cmn32480> buzzard?
[02:36:53] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ^^^
[02:36:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure sure
[02:37:06] <cmn32480> says TMB to make the discussion stop
[02:37:06] <Bytram> that words for me.
[02:37:09] <Bytram> *works
[02:37:11] <Bytram> lol
[02:37:27] * Bytram is picking up some typing skills from cmn32480
[02:37:57] * TheMightyBuzzard is beginning to suspect that Bytram is a closet furry
[02:38:04] <takyon> how about a sub sandwich
[02:38:24] <Bytram> and, for the introductory sentence to the story, how about:
[02:38:26] <Bytram> A *growing* trend in the coding world is looking to [claim another adoptee]
[02:38:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, two subs and an article or two articles and a sub?
[02:38:54] <cmn32480> does it come wiht chips and a soda?
[02:39:16] <takyon> bring your own bacon
[02:39:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, be out of character for the submitter.
[02:39:21] <Bytram> A growing trend in the coding world is looking to <a href="https://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004">claim another adoptee</a>. This time it's the Ruby language.
[02:39:21] <PC-Police> ^✓* 03Misc #12004: Code of Conduct - Ruby trunk - Ruby Issue Tracking System
[02:39:51] <cmn32480> no
[02:39:59] <cmn32480> I think we leave the tone of the sub in tact
[02:40:25] <cmn32480> to the submitter it is a worrisome adn disturbbing trend
[02:40:40] <cmn32480> we ought to leave it that way
[02:40:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean it is me we're talking about. i can't have people thinking i've become polite. i've no problem not putting words in your mouth though.
[02:40:46] <Bytram> does that fit in with our editorial policy? especitally since it is speaking on behalf of offocial SN policy
[02:41:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, the bottom is official policy, the top is punditry pure and simple.
[02:41:40] <Bytram> and where is the demarkation?
[02:42:00] <takyon> time to read this article you people are thrashing about
[02:42:09] <Bytram> move the closing statement under the <hr> and that would make it clear
[02:42:28] <cmn32480> takyon - check the one in the story queue for the latest edits
[02:42:34] <Bytram> <hr> Rest assured we already have this situation firmly resolved here at SN. Our official response to those who would propose a code of conduct boils down to a very firm No. If you'd like the unvarnished version, ask on IRC.
[02:42:56] <cmn32480> Done
[02:43:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> works
[02:43:09] <Bytram> glad to hear it.
[02:43:20] <Bytram> seriously, I mean that.
[02:43:30] <chromas> Unvarnished. I see what you did there
[02:43:44] <Bytram> unbuffered, eh?
[02:44:08] * TheMightyBuzzard curses about varnish because chromas reminded him
[02:44:16] <cmn32480> any dept line ideas?
[02:44:24] <chromas> Varnish is the front end cache server thingy
[02:44:38] <Bytram> hmm
[02:44:39] <cmn32480> I thought that was polyurethane
[02:44:55] <takyon> oh man, you didn't go with "Push CoC" huh
[02:45:02] <takyon> maximal edge
[02:45:03] <cmn32480> from the slef-appointed-enforcers dept
[02:45:03] <Bytram> shellac?
[02:45:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure but spell self right =P
[02:45:21] <cmn32480> no
[02:45:24] <chromas> From the no dept
[02:45:25] <cmn32480> read my bio
[02:45:26] <Bytram> speak for you slef!
[02:45:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[02:45:42] <cmn32480> I missspelll anthign and everthign
[02:45:42] <Bytram> chromas++
[02:45:42] <Bender> karma - chromas: 6
[02:45:57] <Bytram> from the NO department
[02:46:08] <Bytram> is more blatant
[02:46:09] <chromas> CoC-blocked
[02:46:20] <cmn32480> lol
[02:46:21] <takyon> chromas++
[02:46:21] <Bender> karma - chromas: 7
[02:46:23] <Bytram> I like chromas version as it is more nuanced
[02:46:24] <cmn32480> I kinda like that last one
[02:46:41] <Bytram> CoC Condom
[02:46:53] <takyon> chromas won
[02:47:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[02:47:14] <PC-Police> ^ 03Salt-N-Pepa - Push It - YouTube
[02:47:20] <cmn32480> takyon - go look it over as fresh eyes, please
[02:47:28] <takyon> however... the CoC hasn't actually been blocked just yet
[02:47:47] <takyon> you should just put that youtube link as the dept
[02:48:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'd prolly come out wonky
[02:48:10] <Bytram> we've tried doing that in the past, but the hyphen-insertion code spoils all the URLs
[02:48:19] <Bytram> ends up not being a link
[02:48:39] <cmn32480> dept lines don't work as links
[02:48:47] <Bytram> thas what I said
[02:48:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> that should be fixed one of these days
[02:48:54] <cmn32480> oh
[02:48:56] <cmn32480> so it is
[02:48:58] <takyon> anyone can just highlight it and right click it to open in a tab
[02:48:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, fix that
[02:49:11] <Bytram> I'm fine with it the way it is
[02:49:16] <takyon> I'm looking at the source link and I recognize Coraline Ada Ehmke's avatar. Some SJW huh?
[02:49:28] <cmn32480> we tried to do that for some windows story to take it to a tada.wav on youtube
[02:49:42] <takyon> I'm trying to remember where I had seen this... some other github controversy we reported on I guess
[02:49:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly
[02:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i saw a story when rails adopted it or something
[02:50:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe when php did
[02:51:08] <takyon> https://github.com
[02:51:11] <PC-Police> ^ 03Transphobic maintainer should be removed from project · Issue #941 · opal/opal · GitHub
[02:51:25] <takyon> not something I remember, just something that was linked in the comments there
[02:51:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, yeah, that'd be her
[02:52:14] <takyon> ok well I read through the summary
[02:52:37] <takyon> at worst it doesn't exactly clue readers in to the stuffed raised in the comments of the linked pot
[02:52:38] <takyon> *post
[02:52:46] <takyon> *stuff
[02:53:56] <takyon> i will throw in a colon before the blockquote
[02:54:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> cleanse it first
[02:54:45] <takyon> there's no cleaning up this dirty story
[02:54:54] <takyon> as for the ed note at the bottom, it just strikes me as unnecessary
[02:54:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> meant the colon
[02:55:34] <takyon> but rereading it I can live with it, as long as I don't care
[03:00:07] <cmn32480> dear god.. reading some of the comments in that thread...
[03:01:07] <takyon> the Zika story is by far the best of what I just submitted. fun virus and birth defects and OLYMPICS
[03:01:43] <takyon> I guess i'll submit one more story. it's about... GDDR5X
[03:06:26] <Bytram> break time
[03:06:49] <Bytram> actually, I think I'm going to call it a night, instead.
[03:06:54] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[03:07:03] <Bytram|away> good seeing all of ya!
[03:07:03] <cmn32480> ~gnight bytram
[03:07:05] * exec accidentally pours a caravan of skittles for bytram
[03:07:10] <Bytram|away> gnight cmn32480
[03:07:17] * Bytram|away likes skittles
[03:07:22] <cmn32480> lol
[03:07:30] <cmn32480> me thinks I shall do the same.
[03:07:35] <cmn32480> it is bed time...
[03:07:45] <cmn32480> my ass is dragging like an old tired dog
[03:08:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> that means they got worms when they do that
[03:08:08] <Bytram|away> knackered is a perfectly wonderful word for your condition
[03:08:08] <takyon> with the times on the stories we should try to slot some stories in between them if we get the usual monday submissions flood
[03:08:27] <Bytram|away> I've been aiming for aout 1h45m between stories
[03:08:46] <cmn32480> same
[03:08:51] <cmn32480> 1:40 -1:45
[03:09:16] <Bytram|away> cmn32480: https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:09:17] <PC-Police> ^ 03Wiki: Knacker
[03:09:53] <cmn32480> sweet dreams
[03:09:55] <cmn32480> I;m out
[03:10:03] <Bytram|away> sames to you
[03:10:21] <Bytram|away> ciao for now, everyone!
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[22:44:28] <takyon> http://puu.sh
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