#editorial | Logs for 2015-11-24
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[01:13:15] <Bytram|away> cmn32480|away: what did you say?
[01:13:20] <Bytram|away> ;)
[01:13:22] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[01:14:27] <Bytram> hey, if New York City is the 'Big Apple', what do you call a city with 110 million people being developed in China?
[01:16:51] <takyon> i think i have something
[01:18:02] <takyon> starfruit maybe
[01:18:07] <takyon> seems lame
[01:18:16] <takyon> not sure about dragonfruit
[01:18:56] <Bytram> sounds better
[01:19:17] <Bytram> it's wrt: https://soylentnews.org "https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/11/24/0114248"
[01:19:17] <Linkin`Log> ^ 03Error
[01:19:24] <takyon> inb4 RACIST
[01:19:29] <Bytram> "China Invests $45 Billion in Megacity Project"
[01:19:39] <takyon> okey
[01:22:00] <Bytram> what I have, for the 'dept' now is basically: redefines 'Big City', but I thought Big Apple is to ... might be better.
[01:22:43] <Bytram> Big Panda? came up empty and wondered if there were something obvious I could toss in, instead..
[01:22:54] <takyon> no panda plz
[01:23:24] <Bytram> k
[02:16:44] <Bytram> break time -- back in a few minutes
[02:27:11] <Bytram> cmn32480|away: You might want to look into this at your office: http://www.computerworld.com
[02:27:11] <Linkin`Log> ^* 03Dell installs self-signed root certificate on laptops, endangers users' privacy | Computerworld ( http://www.computerworld.com )
[02:32:00] <Bytram> takyon: you still around?
[02:32:06] <takyon> yes
[02:32:31] <Bytram> check out the above link... is it as scary as it sounds?
[02:33:12] <takyon> El Reg just posted 3 stories in a row on it
[02:33:15] <takyon> so i'd say ya
[02:33:26] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:33:26] <Linkin`Log> ^ 03Superfish 2.0: Dell ships laptops, PCs with gaping internet security hole • The Register
[02:33:29] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:33:29] <Linkin`Log> ^* 03Superfish 2.0 worsens: Dell's dodgy security certificate is an unkillable zombie • The Register
[02:33:32] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:33:32] <Linkin`Log> ^ 03Dell: Yes, we shipped laptops, PCs with a nasty web security hole • The Register
[02:33:50] <takyon> ^almost consecutive postings if you check The Register's RSS feed
[02:36:13] <Bytram> I'm pretty wiped atm, can you write upa quick story and I'll push it out for you?
[02:37:20] <takyon> guess so
[02:37:37] <takyon> need to clean up all my open tabs real quick
[02:37:40] <chromas> !grab Bytram
[02:37:40] <Bender> Added quote 26
[02:38:08] * Bytram is too tired to care
[02:42:30] <Bytram> Tachyon_: k
[02:42:42] <Bytram> ugh, wrong t<tab>
[02:42:45] <Bytram> sorry.
[02:46:04] <takyon> i am writing it
[02:46:59] <Bytram> muchos gracias, amigo!
[02:47:23] <takyon> i need a confirmation that it was spotted by a reddit user
[02:47:31] <takyon> can you look that up while i am writing
[02:47:49] <takyon> this is supposed to be the poster who spotted it: https://www.reddit.com
[02:47:50] <Linkin`Log> ^ 03Dell ships laptops with rogue root CA, exactly like what happened with Lenovo and Superfish : technology
[02:51:03] <Bytram> takyon: /me clicks and look
[02:53:16] <takyon> ok I submitted the story. I put in there that the Reddit user was the first one to spot
[02:53:25] <takyon> if that's incorrect, that sentence just needs to be removed
[02:53:34] <takyon> otherwise good to go
[02:53:37] <Bytram> takyon: "looks" legit, but the first comment on that thread isillustrative:
[02:53:38] <Bytram> I had a new Dell Inspiron in the office that shipped last Friday (11/21). I opened it and checked it. It didn't have the update, until I installed Dell Updates, and then it did. Screenshots:
[02:54:31] <takyon> "Want to hear something really funny? I read in an article that Dell was issuing official removal instructions to affected customers that contacted their tech support. I did so, and the support staff pointed me to this Reddit thread! Here's my complete conversation with them, if anyone is curious: Screenshot
[02:54:31] <takyon> "
[02:55:11] <takyon> here's soemthing funny
[02:55:16] <takyon> Reuters: "Dell said it would provide customers with instructions to permanently remove the certificate by email and on its support website, a process that will likely be highly technical.
[02:55:16] <takyon> "
[02:55:18] <takyon> AHAHHAHAHHAHA
[02:55:27] <takyon> 1. delete DLL
[02:55:30] <takyon> 2. delete certificate
[02:56:35] <takyon> im just going to look at news sites and see if they credit the reddit user
[02:56:39] <takyon> you can post the story now
[02:56:44] <takyon> bytram
[02:56:49] <Bytram> k
[02:56:59] * Bytram goes to look at story
[02:57:16] <Bytram> takyon: should this be Breaking News?
[02:57:21] <takyon> meh
[02:57:24] <takyon> idk
[02:59:27] <takyon> i found the person to spot it
[02:59:29] <Bytram> well, let's look at it this way.. Dell is one of the largest computer sellers, right?
[02:59:41] <takyon> go for it
[02:59:44] <Bytram> So, there' s likely to be a lot of people in the field who have this
[02:59:59] <Bytram> so< if it were *ME*, I'd sure as heck want to know about it ASAP.
[03:00:02] <Bytram> k
[03:03:08] <Bytram> done. story is due out at 03:21 UTC
[03:04:08] <takyon> updated
[03:04:36] <takyon> he is probably the reddit user but I made it ambiguous enough to be correct and provided both links
[03:05:02] <Bytram> nice. okay to look again?
[03:05:06] <Deucalion> Is this a story about what ElReg have called Superfish 2.0? (Lenovo being the first caught out doing this crap)
[03:05:20] <Bytram> yep
[03:06:00] <Deucalion> unkillable root certs that zombie right back into place when removed... that's real classy.
[03:06:28] <Bytram> I think I'll skip that class :P
[03:06:35] <takyon> updated again
[03:06:58] <Bytram> takyon: correction looks good... and that was a great write-up done in very short order!!! I am impressed!
[03:07:01] <Bytram> takyon:++
[03:07:08] <takyon> updated yet again
[03:07:16] <Bytram> takyon++
[03:07:16] <Bender> karma - takyon: 11
[03:07:17] <Bytram> takyon++
[03:07:17] <Bender> karma - takyon: 12
[03:07:24] * Bytram goes to lok again
[03:07:55] <takyon> i just added the reuters quote but added the link to reuters that I had forgotten
[03:09:40] <Bytram> looks great!
[03:09:45] <Bytram> teamwork++
[03:09:45] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 49
[03:09:48] <Bytram> teamwork++
[03:09:48] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 50
[03:10:25] <Bytram> might as well release the story now, unless there's something else?
[03:11:02] <Bytram> takyon: go ahead and release the story now, unless you have something else to change... looks good to me!
[03:11:24] <takyon> err it is released
[03:11:37] <takyon> oh
[03:11:49] <takyon> we might as well wait 10 minutes
[03:11:58] <takyon> giving the previous story time to breathe before it is crushed
[03:12:02] <Bytram> yeah, not gonna make that much difference
[03:12:25] <Bytram> besides, i kinda like the sound of releasing it at 3:21 =)
[03:12:26] <takyon> anonymous coward on "DIY Solar": fuck this maker shit
[03:12:39] <Bytram> what, was that a comment?
[03:12:42] <takyon> how very something of you
[03:12:47] <takyon> nah I was predicting the future
[03:13:23] <Bytram> did you know that is much more difficult than trying to predict the past?
[03:14:23] <takyon> i predict that it will be so
[03:14:36] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:15:30] <Bytram> and the defaulted time for the DEL story actually fits in fine with our release date/time schedule... very nice.
[03:16:34] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[03:16:58] <takyon> night
[13:10:37] <nick> takyon: hope you don't mind the update, but i felt it warranted a bit more than the "being widely circulated" as reuters is at least claiming an authentic source
[13:21:39] <nick> "This event is beyond the normal framework of fighting against terrorism. Of course our military is doing heroic work against terrorism... But the loss today is a stab in the back, carried out by the accomplices of terrorists. I can’t describe it in any other way."
[13:23:23] <nick> putin not happy, unsurprising
[13:27:55] <nick> seriously
[13:29:05] <nick> "In what appears to be a separate incident, another Syrian rebel group - the Free Syrian Army’s First Coastal Division - says it has hit a Russia helicopter on Turkmen Mountain, using a TOW anti-tank missile, writes Louisa Loveluck, Middle East Correspondent. "
[13:29:27] <nick> "If the strike is confirmed, the TOW missile was most likely supplied through the same US and Turkey-backed logistics programme that has reportedly been supplying Alwiya al-Ashar. ""
[15:01:16] cmn32480|away is now known as cmn32480
[17:51:30] <nick> and im back again from another pointless and tedious day
[19:48:40] Linkin`Log is now known as timecube
[22:16:09] cmn32480 is now known as cmn32480|away