#editorial | Logs for 2015-10-26

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[00:15:36] <cmn32480> hmmmmm... any thoughts on leaving a shout out to pipedot where a submitter found a story? he didn't plagiarize it
[00:15:37] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[00:15:38] <GW> ^ 03SN Submission by iWantToKeepAnon: Advertisers should take responsibility for annoying people and driving them to use ad blockers
[00:15:53] <cmn32480> https://pipedot.org
[00:15:54] <GW> ^ 03Pipedot Article: Advertisers admit causing uptick of ad blocking (12 comments)
[00:21:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, we're on good terms generally. wouldn't hurt.
[00:21:44] <cmn32480> that's what I was thinking too buzzard.
[00:22:26] <cmn32480> thx
[00:22:50] <cmn32480> interesting to see some of the comments on their site and it looks liek it has about a dozen active users.
[00:23:03] <cmn32480> along wiht some AC.
[00:23:51] <cmn32480> zoinks.. looks like they are releasing a story every day or two.
[00:24:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooof
[00:25:00] <cmn32480> yeah
[00:25:02] <cmn32480> ouch
[00:25:28] <cmn32480> I admit, I haven't been there much in the last year+
[00:26:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i never bothered with it. the code was never good enough for me. sql injection vectors left and right.
[00:26:36] <cmn32480> yeah... well I never expected to be on staff here either
[00:27:11] <cmn32480> the world moves in mysterious ways....
[00:27:22] <cmn32480> is his code oall open source?
[00:27:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[00:27:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, think it's him only.
[00:27:55] <cmn32480> I think Bryan is the only dev
[00:28:27] <cmn32480> !uid
[00:28:27] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5923, owned by ewk
[00:28:48] <cmn32480> that nnumber is climbing ever..... so....... slowly..........
[00:29:48] <cmn32480> i gotta go poison some fleas.
[00:29:53] <cmn32480> damn cats.
[00:29:56] <cmn32480> biab'
[00:30:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[00:36:14] <cmn32480> ok. poison laid out. kids told not to go in the basement for at least 2 days. hopefully that ought to take care of it
[00:50:50] <cmn32480> interesting... someone posted a follow-on article under the "Rehash" topic. I can see how that could happen.
[00:55:19] <Bytram> bone chewer!
[00:55:26] <Bytram> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:55:26] <GW> ^* 03Ruin your co-developers' life with Mimic, the Unicode substitution tool • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[00:56:00] <Bytram> ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ;
[00:57:17] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:57:18] <GW> ^ 03Wiki: IDN homograph attack
[00:57:23] <Bytram> http://www.irongeek.com
[00:57:24] <GW> ^ 03Homoglyph Attack Generator and Punycode Converter
[02:13:19] <cmn32480> bone chewer to you too Bytram!
[02:13:35] <Bytram> well, a slightly delayed reaction, but good to see you!
[02:13:38] <Bytram> how's the camping?
[02:13:42] <cmn32480> it was fun
[02:13:53] <cmn32480> glad to be home and clean again thouhg
[02:14:02] <Bytram> no doubt
[02:14:09] <Bytram> roughing it is, well, rough!
[02:14:12] <Bytram> wb
[02:14:19] <cmn32480> thanks
[02:14:31] <cmn32480> glad to see the place didn't collapse wiht my absence for a few days
[02:14:50] <Bytram> glad you caught me, am pretty knackered and about to call it a night.
[02:15:04] <cmn32480> me too. gonn post anopther story or two and head to bed mytself.
[02:15:22] <Bytram> today they finished the rest of the floor move, so now we have 90% of our stock located someplace other than were it used to be.
[02:15:36] <cmn32480> oh jeez
[02:15:42] <Bytram> no big deal, we only have about 4000-5000 different items in our department
[02:15:42] <cmn32480> did they at least give you a map?
[02:16:05] <cmn32480> or a spreadsheet
[02:16:08] <Bytram> and the collateral (boxes, manuals, etc.) are only partly moved next to the stock
[02:16:13] <cmn32480> or a vague gesture in the right direction?
[02:16:19] <Bytram> and only partly labelled in its new locaiton
[02:16:27] <cmn32480> oof
[02:16:31] <cmn32480> that sucks!
[02:16:42] <Bytram> and two people who were not involved with today's move are opening tomorrow
[02:16:52] <Bytram> so they don't know how things are supposed to look
[02:17:29] <Bytram> they have about a dozen cases of stock to pull out of safes, put in the cases, and count everything up before the store opens.j
[02:17:38] <Bytram> I come in about 3 hours later.
[02:17:46] <cmn32480> they are pretty well screwed
[02:18:01] <cmn32480> and you will be giggling the whole way in? or dreading what you are gonna find
[02:18:02] <Bytram> I am almost tempted to call out sick..
[02:18:08] <cmn32480> ok
[02:18:11] <cmn32480> choice 2 it is
[02:18:41] <Bytram> but they're good people and only wish that my boss would have let me change my shift from PM to AM that day like I rquested.
[02:19:00] <cmn32480> so that they'd have a half a prayer of getting it right?
[02:19:38] <Bytram> I have considerable skill in "potential problem analysis" -- I can see, almost immediately, things that take others days or months to realize
[02:19:57] <cmn32480> I have the somethign of the same skillset
[02:20:05] <cmn32480> and it is enough to drive people nuts at times
[02:20:16] <cmn32480> perhaps not quite as time tested as yours
[02:20:54] <cmn32480> :-)
[02:21:11] <cmn32480> I wish you luck in your search for merchandise
[02:21:50] <Bytram> so, I've said my piece, they made their decisions, those hav
[02:21:50] <Bytram> e consequences, they'll have to learn the hard way.
[02:22:10] <cmn32480> hey... if that is all you can do....
[02:22:25] <cmn32480> then enjoy the extra sleep!
[02:22:29] <Bytram> thing is, since they cannot 'see' it, they tend to dismiss it as crying wolf.
[02:22:33] <Bytram> for a while
[02:22:40] <Bytram> until my predictions come true
[02:22:42] <Bytram> again
[02:22:44] <Bytram> and again
[02:22:45] <Bytram> and again
[02:22:53] <Bytram> then they
[02:22:55] <cmn32480> meh... eventually they might listen
[02:22:56] <Bytram> *start*
[02:22:59] <Bytram> to pay attention
[02:23:09] <cmn32480> you have the second sight
[02:23:18] <Bytram> there are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see
[02:23:24] <cmn32480> few technical people do.
[02:23:34] <Bytram> yeha
[02:23:42] <cmn32480> what was the old quote from the bible?
[02:23:58] <cmn32480> blessed are they that have never seen but have believed?
[02:23:58] <Bytram> then again, I have my own blind spots
[02:24:02] <Bytram> yes, it was
[02:24:10] <Bytram> ding ding
[02:24:10] <cmn32480> we all have them
[02:24:14] <cmn32480> except
[02:24:16] <cmn32480> me
[02:24:28] * Bytram offers cmn32480 a mirror
[02:24:31] <cmn32480> I don't have spots... I have gaping chasms
[02:24:39] <Bytram> and, if he sees nothing, a wooden stake
[02:24:54] <Bytram> same here
[02:25:17] * cmn32480 looks at the mirror... wondering when his hair migrated down his head
[02:25:35] <Bytram> what I do struggle with are *shades* of gray -- my brain tends to polarize things to stark black and white.
[02:25:42] <cmn32480> musta gone south for the winter I suppose...
[02:25:46] <Bytram> and once in a while let in colors!
[02:26:10] <cmn32480> knowing your spots is a good thing
[02:26:19] <cmn32480> *blind spots
[02:26:41] <Bytram> well, yes, but I'm sure that there are other blind spots that I am blind to
[02:26:44] <cmn32480> it makes you aware fo them, able to recognize them when you blunder into one, and address it as you can
[02:26:45] <Bytram> :D
[02:26:51] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:27:28] <Bytram> I see myself making the same mistakes over and over and tend to get down on myself until I realize that I am noticing it sooner after the fact!
[02:28:05] <Bytram> then it gets to the point when I am aware of it just before, and I'm tempted to hold back, but say 'what the hell' and repeat it one more time
[02:28:20] <cmn32480> just to be sure?
[02:28:22] <Bytram> and after that, I'm usually much more willing to try something new.
[02:28:40] <Bytram> I guess you could say that, never looked at it that way before!
[02:28:50] * Bytram appreciates the insight
[02:28:57] <Bytram> or is that incite?
[02:29:06] <cmn32480> I try... and generally fail. SO i celebrate the ones that I get right
[02:29:15] * cmn32480 throws a party
[02:29:20] <Bytram> feet of clay
[02:29:22] <cmn32480> noisemakers for everybody!
[02:29:24] <Bytram> are btter than cement
[02:29:38] <Bytram> !woop
[02:29:38] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[02:29:45] <Bytram> hey look, we have company!
[02:29:48] <Bytram> ;)
[02:29:54] <cmn32480> WOO HOO!
[02:30:22] <cmn32480> sweet... the bot army parties along
[02:30:50] <Bytram> they have nothing botter to do!
[02:31:08] <cmn32480> i suppose
[02:31:26] <Bytram> sounds like a new political group, the bot party.
[02:31:42] <Bytram> which is not too far from the reality: the bought party.
[02:31:44] <cmn32480> probably smarter than the ones in power now!
[02:32:01] <Bytram> wouldn
[02:32:31] <Bytram> wouldn't be that hard, except I suspect that's just for appearances -- they're prolly smarter than they let on.
[02:32:32] <cmn32480> https://shipyourenemiesglitter.com
[02:32:33] <GW> ^ 03Ship Your Enemies Glitter - Giant 3-D Cock Sucker
[02:33:05] <cmn32480> J just showed me this... and I had to share.
[02:33:37] <Bytram> am familiar with the glitter-shipping company; that's enough for me to fill in the rest.
[02:33:48] <Bytram> and with that, I need some shuteye.
[02:33:59] <cmn32480> me too
[02:34:01] <Bytram> was J with you on the camping trip?
[02:34:04] <cmn32480> have a good night BYtram!
[02:34:06] <cmn32480> yes
[02:34:08] <cmn32480> all 5 of us
[02:34:13] <cmn32480> and we brought all 5 home
[02:34:14] <Bytram> I bet she's a bit tired, too.
[02:34:18] <cmn32480> uh huh
[02:34:23] <cmn32480> we took naps today
[02:34:28] <cmn32480> it was bliss
[02:34:40] <Bytram> some nice snuggles before sleep takes over sounds like a fine way to end the day.
[02:34:46] <Bytram> best to you and her.
[02:34:51] <cmn32480> kiss... roll over... snore
[02:34:59] <cmn32480> thanks bytram
[02:35:03] <cmn32480> get some rest my friend
[02:35:14] <cmn32480> I hope tomorrow isn't a gigantic cluster f**k
[02:35:27] <Bytram> btw, you might want to check out the Star Trek discussion going on now in #Soylent
[02:35:40] <Bytram> backup about a half-hour or so
[02:35:47] <cmn32480> I shall take a look
[02:35:57] <cmn32480> after I post the story I'm working on
[02:36:59] <Bytram> k
[02:37:11] <Bytram> that's it; I done gone pooped out.
[02:37:13] <Bytram> g'night!
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[02:37:19] <cmn32480> ~g'night bytram
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[14:53:19] <janrinok> running v late - but I'm here for now!
[14:54:07] <cmn32480> better late than never, I suppose.
[14:54:12] <janrinok> cmn32480: !!
[14:54:22] <cmn32480> janrinok !!
[14:54:27] <janrinok> although, in my case, some would be happy with never ...
[14:54:44] * cmn32480 mumbles somethign abotu old people not being able to read a clock
[14:55:21] <janrinok> I wish that were the case, but one of those days filled with little problems that snowball into a big one.
[14:55:45] <janrinok> lost my internet connection, then the computer died, and S is not 100% today
[14:56:00] <cmn32480> ack....
[14:56:03] <janrinok> so I couldn't fix the computer until I could get some time downstairs
[14:56:22] <cmn32480> but with S not 100% time downstairs for the comuter is certainly secondary
[14:56:25] <janrinok> ... and a very small sub queue
[14:56:36] <cmn32480> yah
[14:56:48] <janrinok> yeah, but we'll manage. How's life in your world?
[14:57:15] <cmn32480> I keep hearing Simon and Garfunkel...
[14:57:20] <cmn32480> Monday Monday....
[14:57:43] <janrinok> is it only Monday? damn
[14:57:50] <cmn32480> uh huh
[14:57:58] <janrinok> just running Arthur to see what I can find
[14:58:04] <cmn32480> but on the upside.. I jsut plugged in my new Synology Rackstatino
[14:58:23] <janrinok> sounds good , although I have no idea what it looks like
[14:58:46] <cmn32480> https://www.synology.com
[14:58:48] <GW> ^ 03RS815+ - Products - Synology - Network Attached Storage (NAS)
[14:59:12] <janrinok> I somehow thought you would be looking for a link - thx
[14:59:36] <janrinok> looks unimpressive, but it probably is quite a nice piece of kit
[14:59:37] <cmn32480> sorryy... I'm a littel slwo this mroning.
[14:59:58] <janrinok> typing skills are up to your usual standard though
[15:00:14] <cmn32480> the thing about synology.. is that their boxen are all linux based, and have this tremendous amount of other STUFF that they can do other than just be a NAS
[15:00:20] <cmn32480> <finger>
[15:01:28] <cmn32480> a whole bunch of little add ons, vpn services, virus scan, ZNC, and a nifty buunch of other things
[15:04:28] <cmn32480> and, as a nice upgrade from the current NAS (which has 2 10/100 NIC's), the new on has quad-gigabit NIC's that I can aggregate for throughput
[15:04:31] <janrinok> I wonder if it would look out of place in my workshop, and whether S would let me buy one
[15:04:50] <cmn32480> no, and no, most likely
[15:05:37] <cmn32480> for home use, there are significantly smaller (less expensive) models. I have a DS212j, whcich is NOT rack mount
[15:12:40] <cmn32480> now to download the new firmware...
[15:13:00] <cmn32480> should I do the bytram and chronicle every keystroke?
[15:13:14] <cmn32480> you can throw in snide comments and the like :-)
[15:13:28] <janrinok> can I giggle like I do with Bytram|away ?
[15:13:35] <cmn32480> absolutely!
[15:13:41] <cmn32480> that's part of the fun!
[15:14:03] <cmn32480> witty banter and a dash of head shrinking to keep us honest
[15:14:05] <janrinok> well, it is part of my fun certainly, but it is usually at his, or in this case, your expense
[15:14:24] <cmn32480> i'll only allow it if I can make fun of me too
[15:14:47] <janrinok> you have my permission - I hate giggling alone
[15:14:55] <cmn32480> excellent!@
[15:15:11] * cmn32480 clicks download for the new firmware version
[15:15:20] * cmn32480 waits
[15:15:37] * cmn32480 clicks update.
[15:15:41] * cmn32480 waits
[15:16:01] <janrinok> ah, the click and wait ploy
[15:16:04] <cmn32480> approximately 5 minutes until it is fully up to date. thankfully no stepped updates on this install
[15:16:12] <janrinok> now you have clicked, it will download it twice
[15:20:31] <janrinok> it is not much of a spectator sport, is it?
[15:20:37] <cmn32480> update completed
[15:20:39] <janrinok> I hope that you made notes though
[15:23:29] <janrinok> there were not many opportunities for giggling there...
[15:24:09] <cmn32480> these are a lot easier than setting up a whole laptop
[15:24:58] <cmn32480> ewww... they offer Mcafee... <retch>
[15:25:23] <janrinok> don't select that
[15:25:35] <cmn32480> ummmm./.. no
[15:25:50] <cmn32480> Disk Setup
[15:26:03] <cmn32480> "There is no volume in your system":
[15:26:13] <cmn32480> I thought I turned it up to 11?
[15:26:40] <cmn32480> Qty 4x 4TB disks....
[15:27:44] <cmn32480> Running a quick SMART test on all the drives... even though they are new.
[15:29:23] <cmn32480> Setting up the volume
[15:29:27] <cmn32480> shoose RAID type
[15:29:32] <cmn32480> Choices:
[15:29:38] <cmn32480> Synology Hybrid Raid
[15:29:42] <cmn32480> Raid 1
[15:29:44] <cmn32480> Raid 5
[15:29:46] <cmn32480> Raid 6
[15:29:49] <cmn32480> Raid 10
[15:29:53] <cmn32480> Raid 0
[15:29:56] <cmn32480> JBOD
[15:31:42] <janrinok> I know what raid is, but I have never had to use it.
[15:32:04] <cmn32480> no roaches, huh?
[15:32:40] <janrinok> no - but I have tons of lost data :)
[15:33:02] <cmn32480> RAID is not a backup strategy.... only prevents the loss of data through HD crashes
[15:35:09] <cmn32480> https://www.google.com
[15:35:15] <cmn32480> quick primer on RAID
[15:35:21] <janrinok> yep, but I always wait until it is too late. Actually, that is not at all true, I have a second hard drive copy of every drive that I have fitted
[15:35:30] <cmn32480> https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:35:30] <GW> ^ 03Wiki: RAID
[15:35:43] <cmn32480> so you use RAID 1. The Mirror
[15:35:56] <janrinok> I spent a couple of hours yesterday making backups of some of my systems
[15:36:19] <janrinok> sry, got to go and make a quiche but will be back in a short while
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[15:42:36] <cmn32480> biab
[15:57:36] <janrinok_afk> doesn't take me long to make a quiche - it's in the oven now
[16:01:57] <cmn32480> lucky... I'm trying to find the details on somethign that I did for a project 6 months ago where my memory has failed
[16:02:15] <janrinok_afk> I have a memory like that too ...
[16:02:26] <cmn32480> a sieve?
[16:02:38] <janrinok_afk> that's the thing!
[16:03:50] <cmn32480> yeah.. sad part is that I am starting to resemble a colander...
[16:04:06] <cmn32480> lotta stuff packed in.. but bigger holes to fall out of!
[16:08:33] <cmn32480> and I am getting hugry.. thanks a lot
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[19:18:20] <cmn32480> have a nice evening janrinok_afk!
[19:18:27] <cmn32480> you shoudl be going to bed soon.
[20:01:37] <janrinok_afk> cmn32480: I've rescheduled the last 2 stories - they are now at 2 hours plus - no more subs
[20:01:53] <cmn32480> ruh roh
[20:02:15] <cmn32480> ok
[20:02:20] <cmn32480> thanks janrinok
[20:02:23] <janrinok_afk> S is not too well, I haven't got much time tonight
[20:02:32] <cmn32480> forget this place
[20:02:35] <cmn32480> go hlep her
[20:02:43] <cmn32480> we'll keep the lights on
[20:02:54] <cmn32480> and don't just hlep her, help her also
[20:02:56] <janrinok_afk> well, there is not a lot I can do but I've got to be there for her
[20:03:05] <cmn32480> and you are here awful late
[20:03:23] <janrinok_afk> clocks changed back 1 hour last Saturday
[20:03:23] <cmn32480> an hour past normal
[20:03:28] <cmn32480> fo you.
[20:03:40] <cmn32480> ours are 2 weeks out? i think
[20:03:44] <janrinok_afk> give my best to J, and I hope to be back on here tomorrow
[20:03:57] <cmn32480> take care of S, please. don't worry 'bout us
[20:04:04] <janrinok_afk> gtg - take care
[20:04:05] <cmn32480> I shall keep her in my prayers
[20:04:09] <janrinok_afk> thx
[20:04:10] <cmn32480> night janrinok
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