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[11:09:54] <Bytram> g'morning everyone
[11:11:08] <Bytram> I have updated the server reboot schedule story to include a column for 'status' -- https://soylentnews.org
[11:11:08] <knack> ^* 03SN article:  Site Server Reboot Schedule 04(20 comments)
[11:11:37] <Bytram> I'd suggest moving it forward so it gets another shot being viewed by those who may not have realized that it covered THREE days.
[11:14:40] <Bytram> okay, it's in there.
[11:14:52] <Bytram> should pop out anymoment
[11:40:47] <Bytram> .topic #editorial is where the cool kids hang out to have meta discussions about stories on SoylentNews
[11:40:47] SkyNet changed topic of #editorial to: #editorial is where the cool kids hang out to have meta discussions about stories on SoylentNews
[11:48:20] <cmn32480> bytram
[11:48:23] <cmn32480> !!
[11:48:45] <Bytram> cmn32480: g'morning
[11:48:54] <Bytram> welcome back to the 'real world'
[11:48:56] <cmn32480> how we doing sir?
[11:49:02] <cmn32480> real is a relative term
[11:49:16] <Bytram> I'm okay; looks like the site survived the first night of reboots
[11:49:17] <cmn32480> and it seems I have been uninvited from the other channel
[11:49:34] <Bytram> do: /cs invite #channame
[11:49:45] <Bytram> yes, you invite yourself
[11:50:06] <cmn32480> hilarious
[11:50:23] <Bytram> yes, I was a might bit surprised, myself
[11:57:44] <Bytram> hmmm, bender IS here
[11:57:58] <Bytram> .kick bender
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[11:58:05] <Bytram> .op
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[11:58:10] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:58:22] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:58:51] <Bytram> strange. beats me!
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[11:59:54] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[11:59:55] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 42°F, light rain showers, wind SW at 11 mph, humidity 86% - Tuesday scattered showers (40°F:62°F), Wednesday mostly cloudy (45°F:54°F), Thursday scattered showers (39°F:61°F), Friday sunny (33°F:54°F)
[12:00:20] <Bytram> weather to enjoy my vacation by =)
[12:00:33] <Bytram> ~weather death valley
[12:00:34] <exec> 03Death Valley - currently 61°F, clear, wind N at 10 mph, humidity 53% - Tuesday sunny (61°F:88°F), Wednesday sunny (58°F:88°F), Thursday mostly sunny (58°F:87°F), Friday sunny (57°F:87°F)
[12:00:39] <Bytram> ~weather Miami
[12:00:40] <exec> 03Miami, FL, USA - currently 78°F, mostly cloudy, wind NE at 23 mph, humidity 66% - Tuesday cloudy (74°F:85°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (74°F:86°F), Thursday scattered showers (74°F:85°F), Friday mostly sunny (73°F:85°F)
[12:01:00] <Bytram> ~weather riyadh
[12:01:01] <exec> 03Riyadh Saudi Arabia - currently 99°F, partly cloudy, wind SW at 7 mph, humidity 13% - Tuesday partly cloudy (73°F:97°F), Wednesday mostly sunny (74°F:98°F), Thursday partly cloudy (70°F:95°F), Friday partly cloudy (71°F:94°F)
[12:01:09] <Bytram> ~weather mcmurdo
[12:01:10] <exec> 03McMurdo, Antarctica - currently 1°F, cloudy, wind E at 20 mph, humidity 74% - Tuesday cloudy (1°F:2°F), Wednesday cloudy (-1°F:10°F), Thursday mostly sunny (-4°F:11°F), Friday mostly sunny (-10°F:3°F)
[12:01:52] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:02:13] <cmn32480> no bender!
[12:03:53] <Bytram> !invite Bender
[12:04:19] <Bytram> .topic #editorial is where the cool kids hang out to have meta discussions about stories on SoylentNews | This channel IS logged
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[12:08:04] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:08:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 33
[12:08:10] <Bytram> MUCH BETTER!
[12:08:30] <Bytram> teamwork++
[12:08:30] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 34
[12:08:32] <Bytram> community++
[12:08:33] <Bender> karma - community: 1
[12:08:35] <Bytram> community++
[12:08:35] <Bender> karma - community: 2
[12:08:35] <Bytram> community++
[12:08:36] <Bender> karma - community: 3
[12:08:36] <Bytram> community++
[12:08:36] <Bender> karma - community: 4
[12:09:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> !chan-enable
[12:09:26] <Bender> #editorial channel enabled
[12:09:57] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: that's so it remembers it should be here?
[12:10:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly. it looked like it might do that.
[12:11:11] <Bytram> I noticed it was not responding to things like coffee++ and so kicked it an did a /invite but it did not want to return.
[12:11:15] <Bytram> my bad.
[12:11:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:11:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 34
[12:11:34] <Bytram> apparently, cannot pull it into a channel; have to push it there from somewhere else
[12:11:39] <Bytram> live and learn.
[12:21:51] <cmn32480> if you live and don't learn, you arne't trying hard enough!
[12:22:20] <Bytram> heh. reminds me of an old proverb... let's see if I can find it.
[12:23:26] <Bytram> in the meantime, how do I find out what version of the kernel I am running on linux?
[12:23:43] <cmn32480> <blink>
[12:23:45] <cmn32480> <blink>
[12:23:51] <cmn32480> uhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:24:23] <cmn32480> sounds like a question for somebody who knows something about linux... TMB - Care to weigh in on this one?
[12:24:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> uname -a
[12:24:43] <Bytram> ah, found the proverb:
[12:24:46] <Bytram> Knows Not
[12:24:47] <Bytram> He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
[12:24:47] <Bytram> He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is simple. Teach him.
[12:24:47] <Bytram> He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
[12:24:47] <Bytram> He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise. Follow him.
[12:24:47] <Bytram> - Sanskrit Saying
[12:24:53] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: thanks!
[12:24:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[12:25:01] <Bytram> uname -a
[12:25:36] <Bytram> oops, my virtual box window does not clearly indicate when it has focus
[12:25:37] <Bytram> :/
[12:26:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> like lithium is currently on 3.13.0-55-generic with all the extra info being irrelevant
[12:26:20] <Bytram> looks like I have 314.1 MB of updates available for my Mate install on virtualbox
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[13:11:33] <janrinok> hi nick - you having problems too?
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[13:26:34] <cmn32480|mtg> janrinok !!
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[13:26:47] <janrinok> cmn32480: !!
[13:27:06] <cmn32480> how goes it sir?
[13:27:14] <janrinok> how's it feel to be back in the mill again, mtgs, phone calls, etc?
[13:27:23] <janrinok> I'm OK thx
[13:27:28] <cmn32480> feels like Monday
[13:27:44] <janrinok> you are only a day late then - look at it as a short week!
[13:28:09] <cmn32480> that is what somebody else said
[13:28:22] <cmn32480> it might also be looked at as I have 4 days to get 5 days of work done
[13:28:57] <janrinok> so, it's a challenge too - how I envy you
[13:29:07] <janrinok> .... not :(
[13:29:22] <cmn32480> :-p
[13:29:40] <cmn32480> you get all your ZNC issues from the reboot sorted?
[13:30:19] <janrinok> don't know - I'm back in now. I have no idea if that includes ZNC. Can't remember how I got in the first time so I can't do anything about it anywayt
[13:30:55] <cmn32480> it is sorted if you saw backscroll show up after logging in
[13:31:05] <cmn32480> and got back into all your channels, etc
[13:31:36] <janrinok> well, I didn't get straight back in to the other place, but I am in there now
[13:33:19] <cmn32480> I had the same problem.
[13:33:55] <cmn32480> but all seems well now.
[13:34:00] <cmn32480> <fingers crossed
[13:34:46] <janrinok> just replying to a comment from gewg_ - I think he has a bit of a complex today
[13:34:57] <cmn32480> only today?
[13:35:04] <cmn32480> which article?
[13:35:37] <janrinok> the nexus one - although his comment is about a rejected submission
[13:35:46] <cmn32480> checkcing
[13:37:20] <cmn32480> "Then I could ignore it"
[13:37:25] <cmn32480> pure awesome
[13:37:53] <janrinok> lol
[13:40:54] <cmn32480> the biggest question I have on the Nexus topic is how is the editorial process to work?
[13:41:07] <cmn32480> we have barely enough hands to keep the main page full at this time.
[13:41:25] <janrinok> agreed - and when I ask I get sort of airy-fairy vague replies
[13:41:53] <cmn32480> which are equivalent to crickets....
[13:41:58] <janrinok> these range from 'self editing like reddit' to having a nexus specific editor who approves whatever is submitted
[13:42:14] <cmn32480> the second option shoudl last about 2 weeks
[13:42:23] <cmn32480> when people realize how much work it is
[13:42:24] <janrinok> but that submission should be better quality and 'ready to go'
[13:42:43] <janrinok> don't see that happening either. But what we _can_ do is:
[13:42:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, main difference is going to be if something belongs in a nexus, stick it in a nexus. no "community editors" beyond the fact that you lot are still community as well as staff.
[13:43:02] <janrinok> place stories into nexuses so that they can be filtered by the reader
[13:43:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> changes beyond it being a better categorization system may come eventually but not yet.
[13:43:43] <janrinok> that's what I suspected Buzz
[13:44:50] <cmn32480> that change is easily doable... the problem happens when a nexus goes stale for days or weeks
[13:45:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, still not a problem. who cares if there's no interesting gaming news for a month?
[13:45:58] <janrinok> I've got no problem with it, but it doesn't reflect what I thought was once being discussed
[13:46:23] <cmn32480> I'
[13:46:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we may beef them up eventually but i'd like to get some use out of em now since we have them
[13:46:29] <cmn32480> m with jan on that part.
[13:46:30] <janrinok> now, it might have be my misunderstanding, but perhaps it is just not doable in our current position
[13:47:05] <janrinok> but the ability to filter what we see will be a great improvement
[13:47:27] <cmn32480> although, with a specific nexus, people may start submitting more topic specific stories...
[13:47:32] <cmn32480> this may be a pie in the sky idea
[13:47:43] <cmn32480> s/idea/hope/
[13:47:45] <exec> <cmn32480> this may be a pie in the sky hope
[13:47:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> also a possibility, which'd be a good thing.
[13:48:01] <janrinok> that might also be true. I just hope we don't get 1000s of SJ or politics stories and nothing about STEM
[13:48:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> more_stories++
[13:48:07] <Bender> karma - more_stories: 1
[13:48:22] <cmn32480> to a point buzzard, I agree.
[13:48:32] <cmn32480> it is the topics of the stories that concern me.
[13:48:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:49:33] <cmn32480> my fear is that certain folk will submit dozens of stories on the politics and SJW front, and the tech piece becomes secondary
[13:50:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> yall can still run quality control as far as i'm concerned. no need to lower standards.
[13:50:33] <janrinok> my division of labour will still be 70% STEM and 30% of anything else.
[13:50:40] <cmn32480> you volunteering to edit as well as dev?
[13:50:54] <cmn32480> we have about 5 active editors
[13:50:54] * TheMightyBuzzard laughs
[13:51:01] <janrinok> cmn32480: Buzz has already edited a story - check the stats
[13:51:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> you seen my english.
[13:51:21] <cmn32480> an you have seen my typing
[13:51:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'true.
[13:51:31] <janrinok> I read your comments with my imagined US accent
[13:52:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> as they should be. primarily an oklahoma accent but not an especially thick one.
[13:52:16] <cmn32480> we occasionally have a tough time keeping the queue full for the main page, add a gewg_ left wing political echo chamber nexus and we may easily get overwhelmed
[13:52:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, we only have one active dev right now though =P
[13:53:00] <cmn32480> I know. And PJ is doing a FINE job keeping things running
[13:53:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, oh I promise to sub the hell out of some breitbart stuff if he tries to take over the nexus.
[13:53:53] * janrinok steps back from this local war of words :)
[13:53:54] * cmn32480 thinks his worst fears about the nexus' have already been realized
[13:54:03] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[13:55:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously though. you don't have to make a nexus as full as the main timeline is now. still pick n choose the stories worth reading and put em out every 90m.
[13:55:59] <janrinok> that's about as much as we can do - whether we want to or not. If things are good then we can sometimes improve the rate, but we can't keep it there for long
[13:56:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> just categorize em as well. as long as we keep getting enough variety, i'm not personally concerned n don't think anyone else will be.
[13:57:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully new categories will push some new subs to us though. make yalls jobs easier a bit.
[13:57:33] <janrinok> 'oklahoma accent' - I only have one US accent and I took that from watching John Wayne
[13:58:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, close enough. texas accent and ok accent are fairly similar.
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[13:58:22] <cmn32480> mine is more New York/North New Jersey
[13:58:24] <Bytram> no drawl at awl?
[13:58:26] <janrinok> hi again Bytram - what US accent do you have?
[13:58:34] <Bytram> blended
[13:58:41] <janrinok> cmn32480: New York taxi driver - sorted
[13:58:54] <cmn32480> coffee = cawfee
[13:59:45] <Bytram> I've spent time in the northeast, (can do a darn good boston accent as well as down-east), Upstate New York, California, and around DC, too.
[13:59:46] <janrinok> I hate to disappoint you guys, but if you think that I talk like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins, you are miles off target
[14:00:10] * Bytram takes a spoonful of sugar
[14:00:18] <janrinok> I promise to bring an interpreter if/when we meet
[14:00:28] * cmn32480 thinks it makes the medicine go down!
[14:00:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> no cockney then?
[14:01:02] <janrinok> nope - North Western England, and very different from Cockney London
[14:01:40] <cmn32480> see.. now if you were a woman, I coudl listen to you speak in a british accent all day
[14:02:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah well, at least your accent's not welsh.
[14:02:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> em buggers is hard to understand
[14:02:33] <janrinok> good god no
[14:03:03] * Bytram worked on a project that shipped me to europe a few times; one time we had a major technical problem and only a couple days to fix it before go-live. In one conversation we had: 3 americans, a cockney, a midlander, a scott, and an australian. Within 5 minutes my head was spinning!
[14:03:44] <cmn32480> and then they called in the Exorcist
[14:03:55] <Bytram> LOL!!!!!
[14:04:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> who'd the scott fight? normally i'd say he'd go after the midlander but one can never forget that the scotts' most favored enemies are the scotts
[14:04:13] <janrinok> you got off lightly - a Geordie, Glaswegian and Belfast protestant would have had you running for the hilss
[14:07:01] <Bytram> I was thinking all we needed was a good southern drawl and a heavy down-east accent -- maybe toss in a chap from India for good measure
[14:07:37] <janrinok> outsourced editors!
[14:07:48] <janrinok> ... oh, we already are
[14:08:59] <Bytram> ahhh, here's one: https://www.youtube.com
[14:08:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> need some aussie on the team. beat crutchy into it.
[14:08:59] <knack> ^ 03Which Way to Millinocket? - YouTube
[14:15:31] <CoolHand> hi guys..
[14:15:49] <CoolHand> did I see we're going to get outsourced? yay!
[14:15:51] <CoolHand> :)
[14:15:52] <janrinok> CoolHand: !!
[14:15:56] <CoolHand> janrinok: !!
[14:16:02] <cmn32480> coolhand !!
[14:16:08] <CoolHand> cmn32480: !!
[14:16:08] <CoolHand> :)
[14:16:10] <janrinok> CH, it will probably include a pay cut
[14:16:24] <CoolHand> well, as long as the labor is cut, I'm ok with that.. :)
[14:16:25] <janrinok> consider yourself now outsourced
[14:16:30] <CoolHand> woot!
[14:16:45] <janrinok> the downside is that you have to work alongside a Brit
[14:16:48] <cmn32480> lucky!
[14:16:57] <CoolHand> oh dang
[14:17:03] <janrinok> yep
[14:17:08] <cmn32480> we already do that
[14:17:08] <CoolHand> he'll probly be wanting to drink tea and stuff
[14:17:16] <janrinok> almost certainly
[14:17:23] <cmn32480> though, truth be told, we do kinda ignore him
[14:17:35] <janrinok> ... and eat cucumber sandwiches
[14:17:46] * Bytram wonders if he is able to make a sandwich without first putting butter on the bread
[14:18:21] <cmn32480> as long as there is meat with the cucumbers, they aren't so bad as a condiment.
[14:18:33] * Bytram witnessed that in England and thought it a curious practice -- grab bread, apply large amount of butter, and then ask what you wanted on it.
[14:18:58] <Bytram> http://phys.org
[14:18:58] <janrinok> its the only way to make a decent sandwich
[14:18:59] <knack> ^ 03It is not money alone that motivates employees
[14:19:01] <CoolHand> gyro sauce (tzaziki?) is about as cucumber-ish as I get
[14:19:15] <janrinok> nothing like!
[14:19:33] <Bytram> CoolHand: I'm with you -- not much of a fan of cukes -- can eat them if I have to do, but would prefer to not have to.
[14:19:48] <CoolHand> Bytram: do you like pickled cucumbers? (i don't)
[14:19:51] <cmn32480> looks like it is you and me janrinok
[14:20:17] <Bytram> CoolHand: depends -- not much of a fan of kosher dills but there are some sweet pickles I like
[14:20:22] <Bytram> hmmm, hold on
[14:20:33] <cmn32480> coolhand: they have to be soaked in garlic or half sours
[14:20:54] <janrinok> cmn32480: exactly, taste and breeding always wins through
[14:21:20] <CoolHand> s'ok, I know I'm just a dumb hick from the sticks..
[14:21:33] <cmn32480> guess that explains why the sun set on the British Empire....
[14:21:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> CoolHand, oi, no horning in on my gig.
[14:21:42] <Bytram> OTOH there's nothing else like these: http://www.amatos.com
[14:21:43] <knack> ^ 03Amato's Sour Pickles — Amato's
[14:22:10] <janrinok> it hasn't set, it is just resting!
[14:22:31] <cmn32480> http://haroldsfamousdeli.com
[14:22:32] <knack> ^ 03HAROLD'S NEW YORK DELI RESTAURANT
[14:22:34] <Bytram> pining for the fjiords?
[14:22:40] <cmn32480> these guys have a pickle bar.
[14:22:43] <janrinok> might be ;)
[14:22:49] <cmn32480> like 8 or 10 different kinds.
[14:22:57] <cmn32480> to go with the 3lb sandwiches
[14:23:27] <janrinok> ah, healthy eating
[14:23:39] <cmn32480> it is pure bliss
[14:23:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> sammiches, like cookies, should always be at least as big as your face.
[14:23:49] <cmn32480> ambrosia....
[14:24:02] <Bytram> three pound sandwiches? Now you're talking!
[14:24:12] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:24:12] <knack> ^ 03Wiki: Amato's
[14:24:27] * Bytram didn't know it was such a large chain.
[14:24:30] <cmn32480> kinda like the more famous Carnegie Deli...
[14:24:44] <cmn32480> but in New Jersey adn not as crowded
[14:25:27] <Bytram> btw, their Italian Sandwich is NOT a hoagie or a sub
[14:26:31] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:26:32] <knack> ^ 03Wiki: Submarine sandwich
[14:29:00] <janrinok> I've just given the queue a bit of a bashing - good for a while yet
[14:29:33] <Bytram> time to start getting ready for my day...
[14:29:34] <Bytram> afk
[14:30:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, bear in mind we have site downtime coming tonight when both load balancers go offline at the same time.
[14:31:23] <janrinok> it will pick up where it left off won't it?
[14:31:46] <cmn32480> nope. anythign you do during the downtime will be gone.
[14:31:52] <janrinok> lol
[14:35:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'll not really even notice the interruption but if you slate something to go out during the downtime it's not going to get seen until we come back up.
[14:35:17] <cmn32480> thouhg the odds are that you will be zz_janrionok when it happens
[14:35:41] <janrinok> I most certainly will - but I'm sure you will stick around to watch it happen
[14:35:53] <cmn32480> ummmm... how about no
[14:36:36] <janrinok> you can always rely on a friend ...
[14:37:22] <cmn32480> you sure can. and I'm sure that one of our friends from Soylent will be watching with bated breath to see what happens and scrteam on IRC when it goes down.
[14:37:27] <cmn32480> probably poutine
[14:37:56] <janrinok> and we will both be asleep - JUSTICE!
[14:38:59] * cmn32480 wonders if poutine makes a sound if nobody is around to hear him complain....
[14:39:15] Bytram is now known as poutine
[14:39:25] poutine is now known as Bytram
[14:39:34] <Bytram> ahhh, it was worth a shot!
[14:40:11] <cmn32480> lol
[14:42:41] <janrinok> I heard that
[15:33:19] <nick> ahoy
[15:34:10] <cmn32480> heya nick
[15:35:12] <nick> how goes
[15:35:14] <janrinok> nick: !!
[15:36:16] <cmn32480> it goes... slow like a Monday
[15:36:53] * nick double checks it's not monday
[15:37:19] <janrinok> ah, but to cmn, it is!
[15:39:10] <nick> would be good if it was, bit more time to get stuff done this week
[15:40:56] <janrinok> is that good busy or bad busy?
[15:43:58] <nick> im trying to finish off the most important work-in-progress projects as from next week i'll have little time as i'm contracted to project manage a property renovation
[15:44:41] <nick> trying to get everything in place to things can run without me being around and the business partner can go do some marketing and sales stuff without my support
[15:45:58] <janrinok> sounds like a good plan - a project manager now? You will be challenging Alan Sugar for his empire soon
[15:46:37] <Bytram> sounds 'sweet' !
[15:46:46] * cmn32480 wonders if we are going to see nick on HGTV anytime soon
[15:46:47] <nick> its a unique situation, i need cashflow and someone else needs reliable person on the ground
[15:46:47] <Bytram> http://phys.org
[15:46:53] <knack> ^ 03New math model represents how mind processes sequential memory, may help understand psychiatric disorders
[15:47:13] <Bytram> http://scitation.aip.org
[15:47:15] <knack> ^ 03Sequential memory: Binding dynamics
[15:47:43] <nick> if it works, it could mean a lot of work, as it frees up the guy im working with to go out and get more work, and leave me to manage the projects on-site
[15:48:06] <janrinok> not a bad idea at that - hope it all goes well for you
[15:48:07] <Bytram> NICE!
[15:48:19] <nick> couldn't get on HGTV, do things properly this side of the pond, 'mericans wouldn't understand :p
[15:48:40] <Bytram> say what? ;)
[15:49:07] <janrinok> burn!
[15:50:03] <nick> not all that impressed by my soup for lunch :|
[15:50:59] <nick> 'oriental style soupe with chicken pieces, sweetcorn and soy sauce'
[15:51:03] <nick> -e
[15:51:57] <Bytram> sounds kinda 'thin'
[15:52:10] * Bytram prefers a good hearty stew
[15:52:29] <Bytram> hmmm, it *is* time for lunch
[15:54:11] <nick> its normally a reasonable starter course for a chinese meal
[15:54:18] <nick> but this one is quite bland
[15:54:25] <janrinok> time for me to go enjoy the fruit of my labours - endive, wrapped in ham, covered with cheese sauce. :)
[15:54:51] <nick> enjoy :)
[15:54:57] janrinok is now known as janrinok_afk
[15:56:59] <Bytram> nick: just add a dash of hot oil -- that should de-bland it!
[15:58:23] <Bytram> http://rss.computerworld.com
[15:58:24] <knack> ^ 03Tim Cook hides Apple Watch sales but bigs up Music numbers (and fanbois) | Computerworld ( http://www.computerworld.com )
[16:01:26] <nick> apple watch?
[16:01:27] <nick> never heard of it
[16:01:42] <Bytram> in that case, you'd better watchout!
[16:02:08] <nick> ¬_¬
[16:03:24] <Bytram> time for me to get a new gig, eh?
[16:03:38] <Bytram> or we can we let it be hour secret?
[16:03:48] <Bytram> on second thought, maybe not?
[16:07:05] <nick> always with the puns, if you wern't such a nice guy, i'd think less of you for them :p
[16:07:51] <cmn32480> i gotta hand it to you bytram
[16:07:58] <cmn32480> but really, it is time to stop the puns
[16:08:13] <nick> going to cook some burgers for the dog now...
[16:08:20] <Bytram> sorry, didn't mean to tick you off!
[16:08:24] <Bytram> ;)
[16:08:46] <cmn32480> you better swatch out!
[16:09:42] * Bytram let's himself out of the channel and tocks himself into making lunch
[16:09:51] <Bytram> afk; biab
[16:10:24] * cmn32480 waits for nick to block us both
[16:11:56] <nick> just shaking my head in disappointment
[16:16:31] <nick> the dog is damn lucky to be getting premium steak burgers
[17:00:34] <cmn32480> excellent.
[17:00:47] <cmn32480> I have just used my companion pass for the first time and it looks to go swimmingly!
[17:01:41] <cmn32480> I guess Southwest makes things as easy as possible when you spend a lot of $$ on their services.
[17:03:51] <nick> i am watching bbc news at 6
[17:04:01] <cmn32480> but it is only 1 o'clock
[17:04:10] <cmn32480> tell the BBC they are too early
[17:04:37] <nick> its making me feel slightly sick, bbc riding china's dick right now, if you know what i mean. whilst trying to maintain bbc impartiality obviously.
[17:04:42] <cmn32480> you would think that an organization as big as the BBC woudl have some way of telling time....
[17:05:03] <cmn32480> are they at least getting off on it?
[17:05:37] <nick> im guessing the government is
[17:05:40] <nick> so sure
[17:06:36] <nick> prince charles has 'reservations'
[17:07:15] <cmn32480> at the whorehouse?
[17:07:32] <nick> not a chinese one though
[17:07:36] <cmn32480> I mean, if Camilla was what I was coming home to every night, I'd be thinking about running my car into a bridgeabutment
[17:07:50] <cmn32480> at high speed
[17:07:56] <nick> lol
[17:08:25] <cmn32480> with no seatbelt
[17:08:55] <cmn32480> and a noose tied to the hedrest to ensure a broken neck on impact
[17:10:29] <nick> they're rolling it back a little now, covering the thousands of job losses in the uk steel industry which china has been part of the cause due to cheap imports
[17:11:25] <nick> this is also while the .gov is loaning the russian that owns chelseafc some money to open a steelworks in canada or something
[17:11:37] <cmn32480> so just dry humping now instead of full on penetration?
[17:12:23] <nick> but there is apparently competing 'pro china' and 'human rights/free tibet' protesters outside buckingham palace
[17:13:04] <cmn32480> how can you be anti-china, comrade?
[17:13:52] <cmn32480> outside the palace... where the royal family who has no actual power resides, but will never see them
[17:14:12] <cmn32480> protest outside PARLIAMENT and you might get somethign done
[17:14:12] <nick> wow, that was a quick transition into ira terrorism
[17:14:41] <nick> they are having a banquet or some bullshit at buckingham palace this evening
[17:15:26] <nick> according to the bbc it's the 'high point' of the visit as the chinese pm is going to have dinner with the queen
[17:15:39] janrinok_afk is now known as janrinok
[17:15:50] <janrinok> have to agree with nick - it doesn't look good
[17:16:12] <janrinok> once the steel industry is screwed up, it will never recover
[17:16:30] <cmn32480> see the American Steel Industry
[17:16:31] <nick> it seems to have happened extremely quickly, thousands of jobs in a couple weeks, bbc promises more to come
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[17:16:53] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: hello to you
[17:16:58] <mrcoolbp> hi
[17:17:03] <janrinok> how's things?
[17:17:07] <cmn32480> heya mrcoolbp
[17:17:12] <mrcoolbp> hey hey
[17:17:17] <nick> ahoy mrcoolbp
[17:17:19] <mrcoolbp> not bad, have to go to work in a bit
[17:17:20] <mrcoolbp> sup nick
[17:17:53] <cmn32480> this place is like a dysfunctional family reunion today...
[17:18:02] <cmn32480> I think we have seen virtually everybody
[17:19:03] <janrinok> everybody seems to be having log on problems
[17:19:43] <cmn32480> due to the ZNC reboot no doubt
[17:21:12] <janrinok> clocks go back this weekend
[17:21:35] <cmn32480> back where?
[17:21:58] <janrinok> to the shop - apparently they have me on ctv stealing it
[17:22:06] <cmn32480> that isn't good.
[17:22:20] <janrinok> no, I told them to buy a better camera
[17:24:46] <cmn32480> did you at leat tell them to get it from nick?
[17:25:06] <janrinok> they laughed - which I thought was a bit rude
[17:26:07] <cmn32480> right before they gave you a pair of shiny new braclets?
[17:26:39] <janrinok> can you see me? that is weird. It's like you know what is happening
[17:26:57] <janrinok> I've asked for something in gold, I don't think steel suits me
[17:28:28] <mrcoolbp> how's editorial guys?
[17:28:50] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: !!
[17:28:55] <mrcoolbp> hey Bytram!
[17:29:05] <Bytram> how's things?
[17:29:11] <janrinok> good - we're still as mad as ever, but trying to cheer cmn up - it seems like Monday to him
[17:29:58] <Bytram> time flies when you're having phun
[17:30:12] <cmn32480> like a bag of mixed nuts in this joint
[17:30:13] <janrinok> clocks go back this weekend, ta dum
[17:30:25] <cmn32480> back where?
[17:30:33] <janrinok> BINGO!
[17:30:35] <Bytram> over there
[17:30:44] <janrinok> Bytram: ^^^^^^^
[17:30:49] <Bytram> lol
[17:30:54] <janrinok> at :21
[17:31:22] <cmn32480> you aren't supposed to use GOTO statements in your programming, I thought
[17:31:42] <janrinok> that was a BACKTO - its permissible on IRC
[17:31:47] <Bytram> yeah, I know. I use COMES-FROM, instead
[17:31:49] <cmn32480> oh
[17:31:50] <cmn32480> ok
[17:31:59] <cmn32480> BACKTO where?
[17:32:05] <Bytram> the future?
[17:32:06] <mrcoolbp> The Futre!
[17:32:07] <mrcoolbp> damn
[17:32:10] <mrcoolbp> ninja-ed
[17:32:11] <Bytram> ha!
[17:32:19] <cmn32480> that isn't until tomorrow....
[17:32:37] <janrinok> yes but you think its Monday - so it will be the day after tomorrow
[17:32:39] <mrcoolbp> http://www.cnn.com
[17:32:39] <knack> ^ 03'Back to the Future' Day is here - CNN.com
[17:32:44] <mrcoolbp> it's today!
[17:33:16] <cmn32480> https://www.youtube.com
[17:33:16] <knack> ^ 03Spaceballs - When Will Then Be Now? - YouTube
[17:33:24] <mrcoolbp> oh it's tomorrow
[17:33:31] <janrinok> 21 Oct according to the news at this side of the pond
[17:33:44] <janrinok> but that's time travel for you
[17:33:47] <Bytram> today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday
[17:38:25] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[17:38:26] <knack> ^ 03Irish students build all-electric DeLorean for Back to the Future Day - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[17:38:55] <Bytram> from the gonna-need-a-longer-extension-cord dept
[17:39:40] <janrinok> i'm going to ask you to write my depts for me
[17:40:07] <cmn32480> don't do it.
[17:40:14] <cmn32480> he'll p[robably break the dept line!
[17:40:20] <janrinok> true that
[17:40:39] <janrinok> but it will be well documented, so you could repeat it again if you wished
[17:40:40] <Bytram> already been done -- they had to go a fix because of me
[17:40:49] <Bytram> janrinok: ROFL!
[17:41:11] <janrinok> had to type quickly 'cos I knew others would
[17:42:07] <Bytram> quick question: WiFi or Wifi or Wi-Fi or Wi-fi ??
[17:42:13] * cmn32480 sighs with a lack of surprise
[17:42:23] <cmn32480> WiFi
[17:42:43] <janrinok> wIfI
[17:42:59] * janrinok does not follow the crowd
[17:43:01] <Bytram> Why Fie?
[17:43:21] <cmn32480> the crowd is thankful of this
[17:43:25] * janrinok can't actually find the crowd to begin to follow it
[17:43:33] <Bytram> soon to come: Why-Fly the connected miniature spying, flying bot
[17:43:43] <cmn32480> Why Fly?
[17:43:49] <cmn32480> becasue I got a companion pass.
[17:43:53] <Bytram> it's faster than walking
[17:43:56] <janrinok> marty fly
[17:44:02] <cmn32480> now I can take my wife to all the not fun places I go and she will understand
[17:44:08] <Bytram> back to the future? First Base!
[17:44:12] <cmn32480> on;'y after the hover conversion
[17:46:57] <Bytram> http://phys.org
[17:46:58] <knack> ^ 03Mother-of-pearl's genesis identified in mineral's transformation
[17:47:45] <Bytram> as opposed to Mother of Perl who was one all-too-crafty coder
[17:47:53] <Bytram> http://rss.computerworld.com
[17:47:54] <knack> ^ 03HTC launches One A9 smartphone with tech purists in mind | Computerworld ( http://www.computerworld.com )
[17:53:18] <Bytram> ^^^ /me wants
[17:53:33] <janrinok> well, can't you just print this page?
[17:53:54] <Bytram> lol
[17:54:25] <cmn32480> where will he plug his tether into?
[17:54:56] <nick> no physical keyboard, no sale.
[17:55:27] <Bytram> Intro price $400, unlocked, free Uh-Oh protection, unlockable boot-loader,30-day trial and...
[17:55:27] <Bytram> The phone also provides dual cameras, including a 13-megapixel rear camera. There is also a multi-directional fingerprint scanner, to help in support of Android Pay purchases. It runs a Qualcomm Snapdragon 617 processor with 64-bit octa-core CPUs. It is available with 16GB or 32GB of storage, and has expandable storage of up to 2TB in an SD card storage.
[17:55:51] <Bytram> hmmm, /me wonders if the battery is removable?
[17:56:08] <Bytram> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint will support it.
[17:58:43] <nick> i think no removable battery
[17:59:15] <Bytram> yeah, I think you are right. Bummer!
[17:59:26] <Bytram> ... the company promises that it will provide Android upgrades within 15 days of release.
[18:00:30] <nick> should not make promises they can't keep
[18:02:50] <nick> aside from the being 'allowed' to unlock the boot-loader, it doesnt seem like anything special
[18:03:47] <cmn32480> high res camera so we can see up your nose in a duck face selfie!
[18:04:11] <nick> 13 megapixel is still considered 'high res'?
[18:04:21] <cmn32480> i dunno
[18:04:25] <cmn32480> pob'ly
[18:06:34] <nick> i dont really follow what cameras are in phones, i understand the microsoft lumia's have rather high res cameras
[18:06:47] <nick> quality im not sure, but apparently the 'megapixel' count is rather high
[18:06:48] <cmn32480> for all 13 people that bought them
[18:07:23] <nick> lumia 1030 has 50Megapixel apparently.
[18:07:49] <nick> a friend has one, thats the only reason i knew
[18:08:48] <nick> doesn't have the lumia 1030, just an older one with a 20 or 30 megapixel camera i think
[18:09:05] <Bytram> ISTR that with that many itty-bitty pixels, its overall light-gathering ability is diminished -- IOW, pics come out somewhat darkened. Could be mistaken but I seem to recall reading thatsomewhere
[18:15:38] <cmn32480> the bigger the light sensor, the lower the megapixel count can be without diminishing the quality of the pictures
[18:16:17] <cmn32480> for instance, my wife's DSLR has a 1 inch sensor, but is only 16 megapixel.
[18:16:52] <cmn32480> the pictures are FAR better than any of the phones I have seen with the same megapixel count.
[18:17:14] <nick> aye
[18:17:16] <cmn32480> the phones have a light sensor that is only slightly larger than the head of a pin.
[18:18:02] <Bytram> that's the idea. with 50m pixels, a significant fraction of the sensor is consumed by the *edges* of each pixel's sensor. Imagine a single-pixel sensor -- no gaps. A 4-pixel sensor would have a vertical and a horiz separator between the pixels which would reduce the total amount of light that was sensed.
[18:18:43] <cmn32480> exactly
[18:18:59] <cmn32480> granted, the lenses on her DSLR are far better than the one on my phone too
[18:19:02] <Bytram> a 50m pixel sensor would have on the order 7m horiz and 7m vert 'lines' between all the pixels
[18:19:06] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:21:02] <Bytram> btw, I notice we have a story scheduled to go-live 23 minutes after both load-balancers are scheduled for reboot... seems like we are cutting things a little close there. thoughts?
[18:21:18] <Bytram> (reboot scheduled for 0500 UTC)
[18:21:35] <Bytram> story is: https://soylentnews.org
[18:21:36] <knack> ^ 03Error
[18:21:42] <janrinok> it will still show when they come back online
[18:21:49] <Bytram> and is scheduled to go out at 05:23
[18:22:15] <cmn32480> not an issue according to the on-man-dev-show
[18:22:36] <Bytram> it typically takes about 20 min for the systems to be rebooted and if there are any problems, that's not a lot of leeway for the system to be coming up while a story is trying to wiggle its way out of the queue
[18:22:56] <janrinok> it is _not_ a problem, honest
[18:23:50] <cmn32480> the story will still show up. this is just the load balancer that directs the traffic to one or the other fo the front ends.
[18:24:04] <Bytram> just voicing my concerns, is all. I'd feel much more comfortable if it were scheduled for, say, 05:40 but I'll leave that to someone else to make the call.
[18:24:06] <janrinok> the wriggling won't take place until the software is running - it doesn't run in magic-land
[18:24:22] <Bytram> I understand that.
[18:24:24] <cmn32480> the actual function of the site shoudl not be impared at all, other than not being accessible from the outside
[18:24:36] <Bytram> I like that word: should
[18:25:16] <janrinok> if they lose data when they do an update - then we need to change provider!
[18:25:16] <cmn32480> s/shoudl/will/
[18:25:18] <exec> <cmn32480> the actual function of the site will not be impared at all, other than not being accessible from the outside
[18:25:31] <Bytram> !grab exec
[18:25:31] <Bender> Added quote 24
[18:25:36] <Bytram> !quote 24
[18:25:36] <Bender> Quote 24 - <exec> <cmn32480> the actual function of the site will not be impared at all, other than not being accessible from the outside
[18:26:08] <Bytram> time will tell, I hope I'm unnecessarily concerned
[18:26:18] <cmn32480> if the load balancers don't come back, all the sysadmins do is point the DNS to a front end while they pick up the pieces.
[18:27:04] * cmn32480 makes a note of the quote number for later use
[18:27:15] <Bytram> just a couple dozen
[18:27:59] <cmn32480> note that I had to intentionally misspell "should" to fix the quote
[18:28:33] <Bytram> dually knowted
[18:28:35] <janrinok> your story about the internet of things Bytram - are these things being designed by idiots? Frightening tale
[18:28:54] <Bytram> prolly happy idiots - ignorance is bliss, right?
[18:29:00] * Bytram shudders
[18:29:10] <janrinok> they must be very, very happy
[18:29:14] <Bytram> if the SSIDs match, then it *must* be the right network, right?
[18:29:23] <Bytram> Doh!
[18:29:42] <cmn32480> oh my
[18:29:48] <cmn32480> THAT is distressing
[18:30:40] <Bytram> so, broadcast that YOU are the secured network by changing your SID, send a more powerful signal at the kettle than the legit network, issue a couple telnet commands, and thekettle will cough up the *key* to the secured network.
[18:31:02] <Bytram> and Robert is your dad's brother.
[18:31:10] <janrinok> can we stop the world - I want to get off
[18:31:22] <cmn32480> me too please
[18:31:32] <Bytram> before you leave, would you like a spot of tea?
[18:31:57] <Bytram> Now, I may have misread the story, but that was my take on it.
[18:32:21] <janrinok> tea? yes please, milk, no sugar
[18:32:32] <Bytram> my next story to go out will be my 1Kth
[18:32:34] * cmn32480 goes to get his towel
[18:32:45] <janrinok> I wondered if you were still counting Bytram
[18:32:55] <cmn32480> wow... 1Kth!
[18:33:03] <cmn32480> 1024 stories is a big accomplishment
[18:33:25] <janrinok> lol - just put him back 4 or 5 days!
[18:33:29] * cmn32480 deletes everythgin in the sub queue to halt bytram's advance
[18:33:39] <Bytram> I have a crazy gift with numbers... can memorize an 8-digit serial number on a $1 bill in under 5 seconds
[18:33:57] * Bytram prepares to revoke cmn32480's editor privs
[18:34:04] <Bytram> your move
[18:34:07] <Bytram> ;)
[18:34:22] <cmn32480> last time I did a ,kick I was yelled at
[18:34:28] <Bytram> sometimes only need 2 seconds, depends on how noisy things are
[18:34:29] <cmn32480> so I won't be doing THAT again
[18:34:40] <Bytram> nor, in this case, would I.
[18:35:03] * cmn32480 hands bytram his editors credentials and paycheck....
[18:35:10] <Bytram> I'm usually pretty easy-going... takes an awful lot over an extended period to get me going.
[18:35:21] <cmn32480> your move.... with Christmas season coming...
[18:35:33] <Bytram> and even then, I am one to exercise restraint.
[18:35:36] <janrinok> what, are we talking presents already?
[18:35:54] <Bytram> well, we *were* talking about the future, but it seems like we are back to the presents
[18:36:41] <janrinok> I'm not going to type the obvious riposte that we are all thinking...
[18:37:40] -!- Yog-Yogguth [Yog-Yogguth!~Yog-Yoggu@02.61-660-88.nextgentel.com] has joined #editorial
[18:37:56] <janrinok> hi Yog
[18:37:59] <Yog-Yogguth> hi :)
[18:38:13] <cmn32480> good evening, sir
[18:38:18] <janrinok> don't often see you in here
[18:38:26] <Yog-Yogguth> never been here before XD
[18:38:28] <cmn32480> bytram invited him
[18:38:39] <janrinok> well, you're welcome any time
[18:38:48] <cmn32480> soitenly
[18:38:55] <Bytram> Yog-Yogguth: I see you found it; welcome, good sir.
[18:39:02] <janrinok> ... I had to read that aloud
[18:39:22] <Bytram> soytenly? I sense a new meme starting...
[18:39:53] <cmn32480> glad I could hellp your cognition janrionok
[18:39:57] <janrinok> is there anything we can do to help, Yog?
[18:40:16] <janrinok> we are not used to having guests
[18:40:16] <cmn32480> this is where all the cool kids hang out
[18:40:27] <janrinok> well, cool kids and me
[18:40:32] <nick> my topic yesterday was better...
[18:40:34] <Bytram> we were about to have a spot of tea
[18:40:39] <Yog-Yogguth> well I was asking iof anyone knew anything beyond https://www.csail.mit.edu about the MIT Data Science Machine
[18:40:42] <cmn32480> rats... just a spot?
[18:40:47] <Bytram> something about owning iKettles or somesuch
[18:40:48] <janrinok> but apparently no cucumber sandwiches
[18:40:49] <cmn32480> I was hoping for a whole cup today
[18:41:03] <Bytram> well, if you have a big enough cup...
[18:41:07] <mrcoolbp> have fun guys, I gotta run
[18:41:11] <cmn32480> bytram wanted pickles in his sammich
[18:41:19] <Bytram> LOL!
[18:41:20] <cmn32480> be safe mrcoolbp
[18:41:26] <Bytram> ^^ what he said
[18:41:46] <janrinok> have a good one MrCbp
[18:42:00] <Yog-Yogguth> cya mrcool :)
[18:42:32] <Bytram> the Data Science Machine sounds like it could be nicely reconfigured to help with debugging software
[18:42:41] <Bytram> s/debugging/testing/
[18:42:42] <exec> <Bytram> the Data Science Machine sounds like it could be nicely reconfigured to help with testing software
[18:43:16] <Bytram> There's already a company out in that space --- I'm trying to rtemember thename
[18:43:25] <Yog-Yogguth> yes, looks like an interesting story
[18:43:32] <Bytram> it's 4 or file letters and missing a vowel
[18:43:39] <janrinok> we ran a story about something similar a while back - but not this company
[18:43:40] <Bytram> it's 4 or 5 letters and missing a vowel
[18:43:49] <Bytram> dmin?
[18:45:17] <Bytram> dmin.com
[18:45:27] <Bytram> http://dmin.com
[18:45:58] <Yog-Yogguth> anyone know how long it usually takes for papers presented at a conference to be released or published elsewhere?
[18:46:29] <Bytram> nope. My guess is that it depends on the particular conference -- there's people involved and some are more distracted than others
[18:46:35] <janrinok> we ran a story from Fujitsu about their processing of Massive Data Sets on 8 Sep
[18:47:38] <janrinok> can't find the story I am thinking of though
[18:48:33] <Yog-Yogguth> could it be this one? https://soylentnews.org
[18:48:34] <knack> ^ 03SN article:  New Algorithm Simplifies the Categorization of Large Amount of Data 04(11 comments)
[18:49:10] <janrinok> that's the one I found, but I have another in mind
[18:49:42] <janrinok> but your story and this link seem to be following similar paths
[18:54:40] <janrinok> definitely a story there somewhere ...
[18:58:10] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:58:20] <Bytram> lunch is catching up with me...
[18:58:21] <Bytram> time for a nap
[18:58:31] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[18:58:38] <janrinok> I'll be going soon - Bytram|away nap well
[18:58:44] <Bytram|away> hope to check in some time later
[18:58:56] <janrinok> I'll be zzzzzzzzzzz
[18:59:01] <Bytram|away> janrinok: nice chatting with ya; hope you have a nice evening
[18:59:06] <Bytram|away> give my best to S
[18:59:20] <janrinok> thx will do
[18:59:25] <Bytram|away> laters
[18:59:33] <Yog-Yogguth> cya :)
[18:59:39] <janrinok> see you back in the future
[19:03:07] <Yog-Yogguth> anyway I don't have a story yet, don't want to copy all those sites that don't have much beyond the outlines of the story
[19:04:00] <janrinok> np Yog, if I find the one I'm thinking of I will push it your way.
[19:04:12] <Yog-Yogguth> okay :)
[19:04:16] <janrinok> I'm thinking it might have been elsewhere that I read it
[19:04:21] <janrinok> will have to search it out
[19:05:05] <Yog-Yogguth> I have tried looking too and found some that I don't think is what you're thinking of that might also be included https://soylentnews.org and https://soylentnews.org
[19:05:07] <knack> ^ 03SN article:  Big Data Knows When You Are About to Quit Your Job 04(16 comments)
[19:05:07] <knack> ^ 03SN article:  Grocery Chains Use Data Mining, Mobile Apps to Gobble Up Customers 04(40 comments)
[19:06:03] <Yog-Yogguth> and also this one https://soylentnews.org
[19:06:04] <knack> ^ 03SN article:  The Internet's True Surveillance Potential 04(11 comments)
[19:06:40] <janrinok> hell, I don't even remember that one!
[19:06:48] <Yog-Yogguth> me neither lol XD
[19:07:17] <Yog-Yogguth> I think I'll need to friend Covalent for what he wrote there but not read it all yet
[19:07:18] <janrinok> lots of low ID numbers though :)
[19:07:31] <Yog-Yogguth> yeah, really old one :)
[19:07:59] <Yog-Yogguth> do you guys do any form of collaborative editing?
[19:09:20] <janrinok> not really - we seem to be fighting fires to keep the queues updated
[19:09:38] <Yog-Yogguth> no worries, just curious :)
[19:09:53] <janrinok> although we seem to be well ahead of the game today - even got plenty of time for chatting :)
[19:09:59] <Yog-Yogguth> :D
[19:11:47] <janrinok> time for me to be on my way - back here tomorrow as usual
[19:11:58] <Yog-Yogguth> cya :)
[19:12:14] <janrinok> goodnight to you Yog, nice to see you in here. come back soon. Bye guys
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[19:31:56] <cmn32480> sorry
[19:32:11] <cmn32480> got pulled in by marketing to discuss some issues with the website hosting provider
[19:35:30] <Yog-Yogguth> I think they've all gone to sleep :3
[19:35:46] <cmn32480> one can only hope!
[19:35:50] <Yog-Yogguth> :D
[19:37:57] <cmn32480> sorry.. IM'
[19:38:08] <cmn32480> 'm digging into a website issue....
[19:38:23] <cmn32480> marketing isn't happy with our hosting provider adn wants to know what I think abotu bringing it back in house
[19:39:15] <Yog-Yogguth> sounds like a big change, and don't worry about me I'm just lurking :)
[19:39:30] <cmn32480> it woudl be a big change.
[19:39:40] <cmn32480> on the hilarious side, it USED to be in house.
[19:39:55] <Yog-Yogguth> I expected that :)
[19:40:08] <cmn32480> and then they listened to the consultant who told them all these wonderful thigns about the cloud... instead fo the IT guy that has kept their down time to hours per year.
[19:40:24] <Yog-Yogguth> yup
[19:40:41] <cmn32480> whatever... I know it has cost them a mint
[19:43:44] <cmn32480> maybe they learned their lesson.
[19:44:30] <nick> until the next time
[19:44:49] <cmn32480> of course!
[19:45:07] <cmn32480> then we get to do this all over again.
[19:45:22] <cmn32480> i-d-10-t error
[19:46:38] * cmn32480 wonders if it is possible to pull an image of a VM from a hosted provider
[19:46:57] <nick> depends on the provider
[19:47:15] <cmn32480> so... maybe?
[19:47:26] <nick> yup
[19:47:42] <cmn32480> awesome
[19:49:22] <nick> im considering a windows vm on this laptop :(
[19:49:37] <cmn32480> interesting.. I ahve a linux VM on this one
[19:50:11] <nick> it came with windows7 on it, but it's a refurbished laptop so didn't trust it
[19:50:45] <nick> and can generally get away with linux for most things now, but not all
[19:51:04] <cmn32480> I know that feeling
[19:51:45] <nick> do i try a windows10 vm?
[19:51:50] <nick> or am i going insane
[19:52:02] <cmn32480> go with 7
[20:09:43] <nick> probably the right move
[20:10:26] <nick> need to put some more ram in this laptop
[20:44:09] <Yog-Yogguth> no idea why I didn't see it before, found the paper I was looking for right there on the MIT CSAIL site (I've been all over the net now including the IEEE DSAA 2015 webpages in france :|
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[21:41:16] <takyon> pushed meteor shower story sooner than later
[21:41:56] <takyon> is IRC malfunctioning because of the server reboots?
[21:42:07] <Yog-Yogguth> don't think so
[21:42:23] <Yog-Yogguth> but I wouldn't know :3
[21:42:49] <takyon> crappp
[21:44:28] <Yog-Yogguth> I have somehow managed to gt myself into trying to understand and explain a data analysis paper because all the reporting about that Sata Science Machine is so crap *head hits desk*
[21:44:43] <takyon> gg
[21:44:49] <Yog-Yogguth> ;_;
[21:44:58] <takyon> Sata?
[21:45:04] <Yog-Yogguth> Data
[21:47:08] <Yog-Yogguth> this thing https://www.csail.mit.edu
[21:47:08] <knack> ^* 03"Data Science Machine" crunches numbers faster and more effectively than most humans | MIT CSAIL
[21:47:24] <Yog-Yogguth> (een their own title sucks)
[21:47:27] <Yog-Yogguth> een*
[21:47:36] <Yog-Yogguth> gah I meant even
[21:49:20] <Yog-Yogguth> I'
[21:49:39] <Yog-Yogguth> I'm taking a break and reconsidering my approach for the fifth time :)
[21:52:30] <takyon> TheMightyBuzzard
[21:52:45] <takyon> I can't get into that one channel
[21:52:54] <takyon> is it related to the server reboots
[21:53:59] <takyon> my client is spitting a "cannot join #---------" at me every 15 seconds or so
[21:54:13] <chromas> did you get an invite?
[21:54:20] <chromas> try /cs invite #channel
[21:54:42] <takyon> ok
[21:55:03] <takyon> that worked. weird
[21:55:14] <takyon> time to post the new star wars trailer on that one story
[21:57:07] <takyon> https://www.youtube.com
[21:57:08] <knack> ^ 03Star Wars: The Force Awakens Trailer (Official) - YouTube
[23:35:49] <takyon> this is a reminder that I threw in the orionids meteor shower story