#editorial | Logs for 2015-09-30

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[03:17:02] <cmn32480> ok
[03:17:14] <cmn32480> the story queue is good until 5am on 10/1.
[04:03:02] <cmn32480> tea++
[04:03:02] <Bender> karma - tea: 16
[04:37:08] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[04:37:11] <takyon> Audit My Ass?
[04:37:14] <Schwifty> ^ 03Error
[04:49:15] <cmn32480> thx thought i fixed that.
[04:49:30] <cmn32480> bed time.
[04:50:39] <takyon> g'nigth
[13:03:30] zz_janrinok is now known as janrinok
[13:03:52] <janrinok> hi guys
[14:28:48] <janrinok> very quiet on here today
[14:32:33] <Bytram|away> janrinok: !!
[14:32:38] <Bytram|away> g'day fine sir.
[14:32:56] <janrinok> Bytram|away: !!
[14:33:09] <janrinok> and a good a'noon to you too
[14:33:09] <Bytram|away> 'tis raining the proverbial cats-and-dogs, so I may get called into work early... but, for now, I'mpeaking in here.
[14:33:15] <Bytram|away> merci
[14:33:21] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[14:33:25] <janrinok> a cool but sunny autumn day here!
[14:33:28] <Bytram> ahhh, that feels better!
[14:33:36] <Bytram> hmm
[14:33:39] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[14:33:41] <janrinok> cmn has had a posting frenzy
[14:34:07] <Bytram> yep, whilst keeping me distacted over here in IRC, he was posting like crazy!
[14:34:27] <janrinok> a dirty trick, but effective :)
[14:34:41] <Bytram> btw, as to promoting someone to having posting privs on prod...
[14:34:48] <janrinok> mind you, I think you are safe for a while yet
[14:35:09] <Bytram> I have the privs to do it, but if I am unavailable at the time, so too do: PJ, NC, and (I think) TMB
[14:35:31] <janrinok> I'm not sure I asked about it - did I ?
[14:35:50] <Bytram> it's real simple; tick a checkbox in their profile, and save.
[14:35:57] <janrinok> but thx for the info, we will take not of it
[14:36:33] <janrinok> are you a nominated trainer?
[14:36:41] <Bytram> not that you had asked, but I had volunteered, and realized that should IRL interfere, wanted to let you know there were other means to get it done.
[14:36:49] <Bytram> not that I am aware of.
[14:37:10] <janrinok> I know that you have a lot on your plate, but are you interested?
[14:37:40] <Bytram> and, with QA/Test/Editor, I'd graciously accept any offer to perform such duties (I'll help however I can), but would request that other avenues be pursued, first.
[14:37:44] <janrinok> The reason I ask is that MrC and N1 are both v busy elsewhere, and we need to have the appropriate posts filled should we require them
[14:37:51] <Bytram> otoh, every once in a while
[14:38:06] <Bytram> things 'click' with another person, and it'll naturally come into play.
[14:38:17] <Bytram> in that case, it would be nice to have the permission, just in case.
[14:38:27] <janrinok> np, consider yourself nominated, but I will use you as a 'last resort' simply because of your current workload
[14:39:05] <janrinok> that makes me, cmn and yourself as 'active' nominated trainers for the time being.
[14:39:13] <Bytram> I feel understood, and humbled. Thank-you, kind sir!
[14:39:30] <Bytram> btw, just saw this in #rss-bot: http://www.itworld.com
[14:39:32] <Schwifty> ^ 03Newly found TrueCrypt flaw allows full system compromise | ITworld ( http://www.itworld.com )
[14:39:43] <Bytram> that is a MAJOR 'oh oh!'
[14:39:45] <janrinok> Yes I was reading that last night when in bed
[14:39:54] <Bytram> hmm, how bad *IS* it?
[14:40:15] <janrinok> veracrypt seems to have fixed it now, but it was a big hole if the report is accurate
[14:40:30] <janrinok> they have also fixed several other vulns
[14:41:58] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:42:04] <Bytram> just finished reading the ^^ article.
[14:42:28] <Bytram> sounds like anyone who is still on truecrypt is vulnerable, if I understand the article correctly?
[14:43:25] <Bytram> from my professional experience, "Just because I did not find a defect does not mean there are no defects to find."
[14:43:37] <janrinok> true
[14:44:26] <janrinok> I suspect that some will have seen the results of the first audit and decided to continue/resume with truecrypt. Others might have been a little more prudent
[14:44:50] * Bytram re-reads what he just wrote and finds it interesting that somewhere along the way, he went from nerd to professional and wonders where the tipping point was? First, paid, full-time job? Mastery (at what level?) of certain areas?
[14:45:43] <Bytram> and, now that I am no longer paid to do software development or test, does that mean I am on longer a professional? hmmm.
[14:45:52] <Bytram> Might make for a good discussion on the site....
[14:45:57] <janrinok> lol - professional as in 'its the way I act' rather than 'I am getting paid for doing this'
[14:46:03] <Bytram> what makes a 'professional' a Professional?
[14:46:11] <janrinok> money
[14:46:21] <Bytram> lol
[14:46:36] <Bytram> so, are Olympians still Amateurs?
[14:46:44] <janrinok> and on your SN salary, you are most certainly little 'p' professional
[14:46:57] <Bytram> ROFL!
[14:47:29] <janrinok> yep - most decidely so. Professionals are not meant to take part in the Olympics. That is why they have 'sponsors' and not employers
[14:47:32] <Bytram> ah, but I *am* paid handsomely in other ways!
[14:47:53] <janrinok> one of life's rich rewards
[14:48:10] <Bytram> I'd not have met you were it not for this site.
[14:48:21] <Bytram> and my life is better for the experience!
[14:48:28] <janrinok> don't blame SN - it is not the site's fault
[14:48:38] <janrinok> ninja'd
[14:48:39] <Bytram> which reminds me, give S a hug for me, will ya?
[14:48:50] <janrinok> I will indeed - just shouting it out now!
[14:49:02] <Bytram> Kewel!
[14:49:14] <Bytram> SN's NightMode theme; a site for sore eyes?
[14:49:17] <janrinok> she thinks we are all mad ...
[14:49:25] <Bytram> and your point is???
[14:49:27] <Bytram> =)
[14:49:33] <janrinok> oh, we are starting the puns again are we?
[14:49:39] <Bytram> nope
[14:49:50] <Bytram> man oh man, it is POURING atm
[14:50:54] <Bytram> http://images.intellicast.com
[14:51:37] <janrinok> ah, green rain, must be an American thing
[14:52:00] <Bytram> why? what color is YOUR rain? Purple? ;)
[14:52:20] <janrinok> only if I smoke something I shouldn't
[14:52:33] <janrinok> but then I hear doves cry
[14:52:55] <Bytram> btw, green is just for the mist and drizzle... yellow and orange are for when it is REALLY raining... and violet for when the roads have become rivers
[14:53:22] * Bytram thinks J is 'coo coo'
[14:53:38] <janrinok> we have similar but without the green
[14:53:45] * Bytram takes a look at this url: //images.intellicast.com/WxImages/RadarLoop/hfd_None_anim.gif
[14:54:04] <Bytram> nodnod
[14:54:10] <janrinok> thats the same one, right?
[14:54:18] <Bytram> coffee++ biab
[14:54:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 29
[14:55:39] <janrinok> just passed your hug on to S personally
[14:55:49] <Bytram> noice!
[14:56:09] <Bytram> FYI: we are creeping up to comment number 250K !!
[14:56:13] <janrinok> is that your Dick Van Dyke voice?
[14:56:26] <Bytram> curly!
[14:56:44] <janrinok> ah, Mary Poppins, it supacala....
[14:57:39] <Bytram> tangent: I'
[14:58:09] <Bytram> I've been following the blog of a Uni comp-sci prof and dept head for a number of years... think you might find this posting interesting: http://www.cs.uni.edu
[14:58:10] <Schwifty> ^ 03Knowing and Doing: September 2015 Archives ( http://www.cs.uni.edu )
[14:58:22] <janrinok> looking
[14:59:18] <Bytram> hmmm might not he the best link.... try this one: http://www.cs.uni.edu
[14:59:19] <Schwifty> ^ 03Knowing and Doing: September 2015 Archives ( http://www.cs.uni.edu )
[14:59:19] <janrinok> I had not heard of Postel's Law before
[14:59:29] <Bytram> Oh? it worked? Nice!
[14:59:38] <Bytram> nor had I.
[15:00:28] <Bytram> well, I don't know it by name, but I am familiar with the concept as it relates to networking
[15:01:19] <janrinok> I've been looking at a bug for about 10 minutes now, and it is a simple matter of having passed parameters in the wrong order. I must be going blind!
[15:01:34] <Bytram> been there.
[15:02:24] <Bytram> It's funny that I should have stumbled on Postel's Law -- I handle merging our departments' schedules into a unified document, and everything went sideways 2 days ago....
[15:02:39] <janrinok> nurse is here - brb
[15:02:51] <Bytram> k
[15:03:35] <Bytram> took me well over an hour to discover that they had a bug and presented each employee's schedule on the site with their name as: LastName, FirstName MiddleInitial MiddleInitital
[15:03:36] <Bytram> :(
[15:04:21] <Bytram> once I figured out what was going on, it was relatively easy to recognize said error, and make it conform to: LastName, FirstName MiddleInitial
[15:04:42] <Bytram> I was not as tolerant of bad input as I needed to be, apparently. :/
[15:04:44] <janrinok> so easily done, and sometimes so difficult to see
[15:04:49] <Bytram> nodnod
[15:05:10] * Bytram wonders how long it will be before *they* notice AND fix it?
[15:05:23] <Bytram> I give 'em at least a full week.
[15:05:32] <janrinok> lol
[15:05:36] <Bytram> prolly more like a month to forever.
[15:05:52] <Bytram> I can see the symptoms of off-shored code from here.
[15:06:00] <janrinok> ah the MS school of patching - unless it is for data collection
[15:06:19] <Bytram> and software designed by someone who is not experienced in actually *doing* what we do.
[15:06:47] <Bytram> Like someone who has learned to cook from reading a bunch of recipes.
[15:07:06] <Bytram> they've got the 'what', kind of, but... oy vey!
[15:07:15] <janrinok> well, that is not strictly unexpected. You can't expect every software engineer to have tried every possible profession
[15:07:31] <Bytram> yes, you have a point.
[15:07:33] <janrinok> but the task analysis and definition was faulty, that's for sure
[15:07:43] <Bytram> wish I could find a way to participate in their design/test area.
[15:07:55] <Bytram> would save 8everyone* a lot of work and confusion and $$
[15:08:11] <Bytram> ok, break time, back in a few minutes
[15:08:15] <janrinok> k
[15:12:42] <Bytram> not back yet, but... might want to put this story out soon; time sensitive as the arguments are scheduled for today:
[15:12:43] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[15:12:44] <Schwifty> ^ 03SN Submission by Phoenix666: Feds Say Your Hard Drives Are for the Government’s Keeping
[15:12:51] <Bytram> ok, gtg, back in a few
[15:15:50] <janrinok> that story is out - it still needs a 2nd
[15:18:00] <janrinok> gtg - time to start cooking. Chinese tonight. back in a hour or two
[15:18:09] janrinok is now known as janrinok_afk
[15:21:36] <Bytram> k
[15:23:53] <Bytram> Fixed typo in title "Government'S" should be: "Government's"
[15:24:15] <Bytram> and the rhetorical question at the end misses the gist of the situation...
[15:24:23] <Bytram> gonna remove it and replace it with something else.
[15:27:37] <Bytram> replaced it with:
[15:27:39] <Bytram> What if it were a 3-D capture of all things in view while executing a search warrant — like a "cop-cam" on steroids?
[15:28:05] * Bytram doesn't especially like the idiom "on steroids" but it's the best that I can come up with atm.
[15:28:56] <Bytram> BTW, The preceding replaces the original question: "Is it different from finding drugs in a car that was stopped and searched for another reason?"
[15:28:59] * Bytram clicks update.
[15:52:18] <Bytram> well, time for me to head to work... have a great day everyone!
[15:52:22] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[18:55:37] janrinok_afk is now known as zz_janrinok_afk
[19:08:18] <cmn32480> you too Bytram !!
[19:15:43] <cmn32480> damn it I hate funerals
[19:18:09] <cmn32480> zz_janrinok_afk !!
[23:13:26] <cmn32480> <cricket> <cricket>
[23:14:36] <cmn32480> gents.... in case I miss you, sorry for taking all the fun last night. IRC was quiet as a tomb... and I didn't feel like doing my day job far into the night.