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[12:25:32] zz_janrinok is now known as janrinok
[12:26:25] <janrinok> cmn32480: !!. You would think that a chap would be safe from hassle in his bed at 05:00, but no, I get hassle! :)
[12:27:26] <cmn32480> YOU DESERVED IT!
[12:27:37] <cmn32480> you sohudl ahve been sleeping.
[12:27:46] <janrinok> lol - I was in bed! And I had been to sleep...
[12:27:52] <cmn32480> and, quite frankly, I found it hilarious that I left you a not on a story
[12:28:00] <janrinok> so did I
[12:28:14] <cmn32480> good!
[12:28:23] <cmn32480> I knew it was you when my stories started having 2nds
[12:28:39] <janrinok> damn, hoist by my own petard
[12:28:47] <cmn32480> pretty much :-)
[12:29:10] <janrinok> how's things with you today?
[12:29:26] <cmn32480> better
[12:29:37] <cmn32480> providing certain people stay away... nobody is likely to get killed
[12:29:46] <janrinok> glad to here it - I hope you didn't unload on J when you got home
[12:29:52] <janrinok> hear*
[12:30:46] <cmn32480> nope
[12:30:54] <cmn32480> I try very hard to not unload on her and the kids
[12:31:12] <janrinok> good - some of us actually like you, you know....
[12:32:34] <cmn32480> I know
[12:33:04] <cmn32480> one thing she does not understand (probably because she has never dealt with it) is extended periods of stress caused by one's job
[12:34:04] <janrinok> that's not unreasonable, especially if it is outside of her own experiences. However, that was a mammoth posting session that you did yesterday
[12:34:49] <cmn32480> I was still hot under the collar, and thoguht it best to put that energy into somethign constructive
[12:35:10] <janrinok> but instead you wasted your time on the site! :)
[12:35:59] <cmn32480> adn for me that was a mammoth session.. you and LamX did that for months....
[12:36:49] <janrinok> pah, at the time there was nobody else!
[12:37:49] <CoolHand> cmn32480!! janrinok!!
[12:37:55] <CoolHand> glad you guys are keeping each other in line..
[12:37:56] <CoolHand> :)
[12:38:02] <cmn32480> CoolHand !!
[12:38:05] <janrinok> CoolHand: !!
[12:38:23] <cmn32480> then you got me and coolhand... so it seems that there is still nobody else!
[12:38:41] <janrinok> lol - out of the frying pan etc
[12:40:53] <CoolHand> dang.. I come in and kill the room...
[12:40:56] <CoolHand> heh
[12:41:06] <janrinok> it's a knack CoolHand
[12:41:17] <janrinok> how's things with yourself today?
[12:42:07] <CoolHand> alright.. just working.. ..and seeing if I can update my openIndiana vm..
[12:42:33] <janrinok> I'm not even sure I know what an openIndiana vm is
[12:43:12] <CoolHand> OpenIndiana is a robust enterprise operating system, based on the illumos kernel. It is open source, free to use, community developed, and suitable for servers and desktops.
[12:43:31] <janrinok> ah, thanks I was just typing it in to google when you replied
[12:43:34] <CoolHand> New to illumos?
[12:43:34] <CoolHand> This is the home of the illumos project, the fully open community fork of the OpenSolaris operating system.
[12:44:02] <CoolHand> yeah, I thought about doing a lmgtfy link, but thought I'd play nice.. :)
[12:44:04] <janrinok> first time that I have heard of it
[12:44:50] <CoolHand> I need to update my dyson OS vm also.. http://osdyson.org
[12:44:51] * janrinok has now got an empty unused Google window - I wonder if it is worth anything on ebay
[12:44:55] <exec> └─ 13About - Dyson - Dyson — Debian GNU/kOpenSolaris - 03http://osdyson.org/projects/dyson/wiki
[12:45:26] <cmn32480> is Google Window like a bigger version of Google Glass?
[12:46:01] <CoolHand> these are testing vm's for me, in case I want to move off my pcbsd desktop to something opensolaris based..
[12:46:20] <janrinok> nope :) Google windows work and don't usually get you punched
[12:47:01] <cmn32480> do they let you see through the clothes of people walking by?
[12:47:17] <CoolHand> like those xray glasses that used to be in the backs of comics?
[12:47:36] <janrinok> nope, but at night you can creep up and watch people getting ready for bed - or so I've been told, of course
[12:47:47] <CoolHand> I always wanted to order some of those.. I was such a pervy kid... (not much has changed except I"m older)
[12:48:16] <janrinok> I had forgotten about those glasses adverts - that must have been 40-50 years ago!
[12:48:50] <CoolHand> well, 35 at least..
[12:49:17] <CoolHand> maybe up to 50, but I wouldn't ahve been around for those
[12:49:17] <CoolHand> :)
[12:49:49] <janrinok> obviously they were not new when you first saw them. I recall seeing lots of adverts for incontinence pants for men being seen around the same time, I never could work out if there was a connection...
[12:50:55] <CoolHand> lol
[12:52:56] <janrinok> Change of topic somewhat, what sort of stories do you most like reading on the site?
[12:54:15] <cmn32480> wait... what??
[12:54:21] <cmn32480> we are supposed to read the site too???\
[12:54:31] <CoolHand> haha.. good point cmn
[12:54:54] <janrinok> well, it's not compulsory, but I had assumed that you looked at the stories that you edited. Call me foolish, I know....
[12:55:22] janrinok is now known as foolish
[12:55:36] <cmn32480> ok foolish... so we ar supposed to actually read ths site??
[12:55:38] <foolish> well, looky here then
[12:56:21] <foolish> break it to me gently guys, and it does explain some aspects of your editing... :)
[12:56:44] <cmn32480> some of us aren't retired sipping tea in the garden...
[12:56:50] <cmn32480> or working from our beds at 5am
[12:57:03] <foolish> at my computer suite (desk in bedroom really)
[12:57:25] <foolish> I had to be awake - duty called
[12:57:29] <CoolHand> I generally like reading most things we publish.. sometimes something catches my eye thats surprising..
[12:57:36] foolish is now known as janrinok
[12:57:40] <cmn32480> janrinok> lol - I was in bed! And I had been to sleep...
[12:57:46] <CoolHand> some of the real hard core science stuff goes over my head, cuz I ain't real bright..
[12:57:58] <cmn32480> like the qunatum mechanics one I posted?
[12:58:04] <cmn32480> check the dept line
[12:58:11] <janrinok> I did - I liked it
[12:58:43] <CoolHand> cmn32480: exactly
[12:59:07] <janrinok> mrcoolbp and I were still answering comments on the 'search for new eds and subs' story
[12:59:58] * CoolHand is only involved with Soylent for the great idle rpg game... #irpg
[13:00:30] <janrinok> empirical evidence suggests that when the rate of story publication falls too much, we start losing community members, but some would like us to reduce the output and try to encourage more 'meaty' discussions
[13:01:03] <CoolHand> so different members want different things... imagine that..
[13:01:18] <janrinok> I was trying to figure out what people like to read and why, and then see if that correlates with the stories that have the best discussions - not necessarily the most comments
[13:01:51] <janrinok> ... and I foolishly thought that I would begin by asking you two
[13:02:25] <cmn32480> at least janrinok knows it was a wasted effort coolhand
[13:03:50] <janrinok> its that time again! brb
[13:05:00] <cmn32480> frickin' tea drinkers.... .
[13:06:15] <janrinok> it's just an alternative, and more cultured way, of getting my caffeine
[13:06:17] <CoolHand> coffee++
[13:06:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 17
[13:06:33] <CoolHand> I prefer mine in tablet form... a bottle at a time..
[13:06:44] <CoolHand> well, back in college anyway
[13:06:48] <CoolHand> now I settle for coffee
[13:07:00] <janrinok> I can prove it is more cultured - the Brits prefer tea, the Muricans prefer coffee. I rest my case
[13:07:13] <CoolHand> janrinok: can't really argue that..
[13:08:11] <cmn32480> me enither
[13:10:52] <CoolHand> then again, being cultured isn't the end-all,be-all of livin... :)
[13:13:23] <janrinok> beats dying though
[13:13:51] <CoolHand> "dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy.." ...the Outlaw Josey Wales
[13:14:24] <janrinok> not a quote that sprang to mind, but I did recognise once you printed it
[13:14:56] <CoolHand> at one time, I had pretty much that whole movie memorized.. haha
[13:15:08] <cmn32480> afk for a few.... need to find something down in the warehouse.
[13:15:14] <janrinok> I take it that was back in your college days?
[13:15:32] <janrinok> more printer head alcohol for cmn32480
[13:15:39] <CoolHand> naw, high school... watched in on betamax every day one summer
[13:15:47] <cmn32480> that is actually one of the thigns I am going to get@
[13:15:58] <janrinok> I know you too well
[13:16:00] <CoolHand> a betamax?
[13:16:14] <CoolHand> oh, printer head alcohol
[13:16:17] <janrinok> no CoolHand, a college
[13:21:06] <janrinok> CoolHand: what are the benefits of OpenSolaris compared to, say, linux or PC-BSD?
[13:21:30] <janrinok> Just something different or is it something that you know and like better?
[13:23:00] <CoolHand> Well, compared to Linux... no systemD... :) I haven't really worked out yet what they are vs PCBSD.. definitely has differences. PCBSD is way more polished as a beginner desktop. so, since my time is limited, I'll probably never make it off of that, but we'll see
[13:24:26] <janrinok> I might give them a look. PC-BSD is fine but I just don't feel comfortable with it. I'm running Ubuntu Mate 14.04 - no systemd and supported until 2019, so I've got time to find something that I really like
[13:31:36] <CoolHand> the Insight file manager for their Lumina desktop is integrated with their Life Preserver/ZFS snapshots... that's REALLY nice (although I don't generally run Lumina yet, I fire up Insight if I want to grab a file from a few days before..)
[13:31:45] <CoolHand> this is PCBSD I'm talking about
[13:34:49] <janrinok> I'll have to check that out. My PCBSD machine is in another room, so that is a job for later
[14:03:56] <cmn32480> ^&*&*()%^)&*()#%QQing working for a living
[14:11:44] <janrinok> I know, I stopped
[14:19:15] <janrinok> gtg do some cooking
[14:19:19] <janrinok> bbl
[14:19:25] <cmn32480> okie
[14:19:33] janrinok is now known as janrinok_afk
[14:19:40] <cmn32480> holy fuck..... tehy want to transfer me to South Carolina
[14:19:48] <janrinok_afk> is that good?
[14:20:02] <janrinok_afk> pay rise? promotion?
[14:21:09] <janrinok_afk> gtg
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[15:16:39] <halcyon1234> Hi. I just dropped a submission into the queue re: Blip.tv shutting down. I mentioned "in about a week", but forgot to put the actual date in the submission. It's Aug 20th.
[15:36:20] <CoolHand> cmn32480: they gonna pay a nice price for your house and/or buy you a new one?
[15:38:18] <cmn32480> unkmown
[15:38:23] <cmn32480> still discussinjg weiht my boss
[15:43:01] <CoolHand> they wanting to transfer you b/c they keep pissing you off and afraid u gonna "go postal" on 'em?
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[16:24:31] <cmn32480> Jesesu H Fucking Roosevelt Christ
[16:24:44] <cmn32480> they want to move the entire service deivision down there.
[16:25:49] <cmn32480> but now I am thinking about going postal.
[16:26:13] <cmn32480> since I run the division, my decision will decide how things go.
[16:26:26] * cmn32480 winders if he can go back to turning screws
[17:09:11] <janrinok_afk> I'm not sure if it is good news or bad - let me know when you have decided, and I will make the appropriate noises :)
[17:09:36] <cmn32480> It'll be a non-issue. J isn't gonna want to go
[17:09:57] <janrinok_afk> solved then ....
[17:10:11] <cmn32480> providing that they don't do it anyway adn put me out of a job
[17:18:31] <janrinok_afk> have they offered you any financial incentive to do the move and for the extra responsibility
[17:18:32] <janrinok_afk> ?
[17:19:12] <cmn32480> no extra responsibility.. same as what I have now. and no offer of financials has been discussed at this point.
[17:19:24] <cmn32480> but the cost of living is like 20% lower down there.
[17:19:27] <janrinok_afk> you could push for it perhaps?
[17:19:38] <cmn32480> probably.
[17:19:47] <janrinok_afk> well, that sounds attractive to me, but I was always a mercenary bastard
[17:20:06] * cmn32480 looks the other way and bites his tongue
[17:24:45] <cmn32480> the biggest issue here is that I have built a really good team.
[17:25:04] <cmn32480> it's like breaking up the band, we aren't nearly as good solo as we are together.
[17:25:33] * janrinok_afk thinks it is a bit like editors, but probably more so 'cos they are getting paid ...
[17:25:50] <cmn32480> sort of
[17:26:09] <cmn32480> but the team of editors is dispersed by default.
[17:26:27] <janrinok_afk> but linked by an IRC channel :)
[17:26:41] <cmn32480> my team is all under the same roof currently, and that makes life a lot easier. that 5 second question in the hall becomes a lot ahrder if they move part of us out
[17:27:10] <janrinok_afk> yeah, I understand, I was just bantering a bit
[17:27:41] <cmn32480> I know... this is one of those frustrating thigns that is gonna make thigns problematic.
[17:28:14] <janrinok_afk> are you sure of how J will see things?
[17:28:28] <cmn32480> when I even broaced the subject last night with J, I might as well have transported myself to McMurdo, naked.
[17:28:37] <cmn32480> ~weather Mcmurdo
[17:28:38] <exec> 03McMurdo, Antarctica - currently -28°F / -33°C, clear with periodic clouds, wind E at 15 mph, humidity 42% - Thursday partly cloudy (-24°F--24°F / -31°C--31°C), Friday partly cloudy (-18°F--8°F / -28°C--22°C), Saturday cloudy (-17°F--8°F / -27°C--22°C), Sunday cloudy (-31°F--12°F / -35°C--24°C)
[17:29:02] <janrinok_afk> where is the wx forecast for SC?
[17:29:16] janrinok_afk is now known as janrinok
[17:29:25] <cmn32480> ~weather Bluffton, SC
[17:29:26] <exec> 03Bluffton, SC, USA - currently 87°F / 31°C, sunny, wind NW at 6 mph, humidity 63% - Wednesday scattered thunderstorms (74°F-88°F / 23°C-31°C), Thursday partly cloudy (74°F-85°F / 23°C-29°C), Friday mostly sunny (72°F-85°F / 22°C-29°C), Saturday scattered thunderstorms (72°F-84°F / 22°C-29°C)
[17:29:47] <janrinok> seen worse...
[17:43:13] <cmn32480> but my kitchen was the first one.
[17:43:38] <janrinok> gotcha
[19:07:22] <janrinok> time to go - have a good one, and I hope that things work out for you.
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