#editorial | Logs for 2015-07-08

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[03:34:55] <takyon> cmn32480 zz_janrinok CoolHand mrcoolbp I'm going to try and make a story out of this
[03:35:04] <takyon> https://pando.com
[03:35:21] <takyon> goes behind a paywall in about 44 hours, but the source documents are in a huge searchable database
[03:37:40] <takyon> shots fired against Electronic Frontier Foundation and Glenn Greenwald
[03:38:11] <takyon> EFF offered to have staff lobbying against regulation of cigarette ads on the Internet in exchange for payment of $350k
[03:41:41] <takyon> Glenn Greenwald helped sue ABC-TV to kill a story about how tobacco companies were promoting smoking in the developing world
[03:41:51] <takyon> or at least, he was one of the lawyers on board
[03:42:30] <takyon> I regularly post pro- EFF and Greenwald/Intercept content so this is a chance to stab our sacred cows, and the content seems pretty fresh
[03:59:25] <takyon> the headline will be "Smoking Gun Shoots Tech Community's Sacred Cows"
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[11:10:15] <CoolHand> takyon: sounds good to me.. :)
[11:12:45] <cmn32480> morning gang
[11:13:57] <cmn32480> er rather... coolhand !!
[11:23:38] <CoolHand> cmn32480 !!
[11:23:48] <CoolHand> whassup dude!
[11:23:49] <CoolHand> ?
[11:24:05] <cmn32480> deciding how close to the breaking point today will bring me
[11:24:32] <CoolHand> I saw you about broke yesterday...
[11:24:43] <CoolHand> is all the printing driving u cray-cray?
[11:24:45] <cmn32480> i was so close I left 90 minutes early
[11:24:56] <cmn32480> nope the printing hasn't started yet
[11:25:09] <cmn32480> we haven't gotten the material (4 weeks behind schedule)
[11:25:11] <CoolHand> must just be the idiots then
[11:25:19] <cmn32480> yeah
[11:25:47] <cmn32480> if I wasn't married with kids, I'd have probably told them I am taking 2 weeks off.... and then probably not come back
[11:26:09] <CoolHand> I hear ya
[11:26:26] <cmn32480> i guess it s time to dust of the resume
[11:27:20] <CoolHand> never a bad idea to keep the dust off it... mine's piled high with the stuff, I should keep it cleaned off more..
[11:27:22] <cmn32480> I think I am at the point of "no Mas"
[11:27:48] <cmn32480> I redid it about a year(?) or so ago... it's a thin coating of dust
[11:28:13] <cmn32480> but I jsut saw a presales job at one of our manufactureres come up
[11:28:15] <CoolHand> yeah, that's not too bad
[11:28:46] <cmn32480> a small part of what I do now, but for higher pay, better benefits and less travel
[11:28:47] <CoolHand> presales? what's that? go in and blow the customer before the salesmen come in? :)
[11:28:58] <cmn32480> yeah pretty mcuh
[11:29:03] <CoolHand> haha
[11:29:41] <cmn32480> no it is actually going in with the partners or the direct guys to be the nerd
[11:29:47] <CoolHand> higher pay, better benes and less travel are all good.. I just am not enough of a people person to do any sales tuff though
[11:30:35] <cmn32480> the higher pay part woudl be a pretty significant raise too
[11:31:05] <cmn32480> bonuses if you hit the number for the year
[11:31:09] <CoolHand> schweet
[11:31:26] <cmn32480> down side is that it means I am really out of IT
[11:32:01] <cmn32480> which I will mis, as I do really enjoy that par tof the job
[11:32:02] <CoolHand> well, you always have SN.. :) you could do IT as a hobby..
[11:32:15] <cmn32480> that si how it woudl ahve to go
[11:32:16] <CoolHand> set up your own vps in the cloud like I did..
[11:33:39] <cmn32480> yeah... I'd miss it, but I think this is how it is going to have to go... I'm topped out here
[11:35:19] <cmn32480> too much stress,
[11:35:37] <cmn32480> i think it is time to start looking... I jsut gotta hold on until I get another job
[11:35:58] <cmn32480> I get tnhis feeling that I am like Cougar in "Top Gun"
[11:36:21] <cmn32480> "I'm holding on too tight... I've lost the edge".... maybe it's time to turn in my wings
[11:39:46] <CoolHand> lol
[11:39:54] <CoolHand> I"m worried that you can quote Top Gun..
[11:39:56] <CoolHand> :)
[11:40:23] <CoolHand> Isn't there a pilot named CoolHand in Top Gun?
[11:41:32] <cmn32480> IceMAn
[11:43:21] <cmn32480> not according to IMDB, you were not a star!
[11:46:11] <CoolHand> ah.. there was a pilot named that in some movie..
[11:46:18] <CoolHand> maybe iron eagle
[11:48:05] <cmn32480> Flight of the intruder
[11:48:33] <cmn32480> https://en.wikipedia.org
[11:48:40] <cmn32480> https://en.wikipedia.org
[11:48:51] <cmn32480> sorry... hit a key as I hit enter ont eh first link
[11:54:57] <CoolHand> that must be it... you're the king of google! :)
[11:57:53] <cmn32480> I don't knwo about the king.... a prince perhaps
[11:58:38] <CoolHand> supreme emperor and overlord maybe?
[12:00:37] <cmn32480> then I woudln't need to find another job. I'd be rich.. but you can still call me cmn32480
[13:04:37] zz_janrinok is now known as janrinok
[13:11:48] <CoolHand> janrinok !!
[13:13:29] <janrinok> CoolHand, !!
[13:13:49] <janrinok> there was CoolHand Luke of course, but he was hardly a fighter ace type
[13:14:16] * janrinok is just proving that he has back read this chan
[13:24:33] <cmn32480> never knew you wanted it until you got it, did you?
[13:32:06] <janrinok> I still use the logs :)
[13:43:23] <janrinok> CoolHand, have you got your SN email address yet?
[13:43:44] <CoolHand> I haven't
[13:44:06] <janrinok> ah OK, well I won't bother trying to send you an email then ;)
[13:44:09] <CoolHand> I haven't seen the people around that I need to get me the details (although it is, in fact, setup - I don't have access)
[13:45:15] <janrinok> CoolHand, cmn32480 I will be away in the UK from mid-August to early-September. I am attending my daughter's wedding and seeing my Dad, who currently lives in a care home back in my home town.
[13:45:40] <janrinok> My contribution here will be very small during this period.
[13:46:42] <janrinok> I have arranged for nursing care for S while I am away, as she is now unable to travel with me.
[13:48:26] <CoolHand> janrinok: ok... good luck with your travels!
[13:52:29] <cmn32480> safe journey my friend
[13:53:38] <janrinok> thx to you both, but it is a month away so you've got plenty of time to mock me in the interim :)
[13:53:52] <CoolHand> lol
[13:54:04] <cmn32480> and we will take full advantage of that month
[13:55:23] <janrinok> no surprise there, then
[13:55:55] <janrinok> I've emailed mrcoolbp
[13:57:04] <cmn32480> no worries. We're like Motel 6, we'll leve a light on for you.
[13:57:20] <janrinok> who is paying the electric bill?
[13:57:41] <cmn32480> I'll puty it on my SN credit card
[13:58:04] <janrinok> I'd check your credit limit on that card - mine is not so good
[13:58:15] <cmn32480> though I tried to use it for a cup of coffee this morning.. and it came back overdrawn
[13:58:26] <janrinok> I think we share the same account
[13:58:40] <cmn32480> musta been all the hookers and blow......
[14:00:33] <janrinok> all? ALL? it was 1 hooker and a reefer!
[14:00:41] * CoolHand hasn't found hookers or dealers that take his SN card..
[14:00:43] <janrinok> ...and I don't smoke!
[14:01:24] * cmn32480 thinks coolhand just doesn't know the right people.
[14:07:14] <CoolHand> cmn32480: probably true.. never had hooker contacts, and all my drug contacts went away years and years ago..
[14:07:35] <janrinok> they probably married the hookers that you never knew
[14:07:54] <CoolHand> hah! that must be it!
[14:10:41] <CoolHand> on a serious note..
[14:11:42] <janrinok> yes...?
[14:11:49] <CoolHand> what do u guys think of the hawaii/ocean wave article? I'd take out the /. reference, but other than that I like it, but somewhat concerned with it being an opinion piece
[14:12:45] <janrinok> I agree with n1's comment of yesterday. It would benefit from a rewrite but currently it doesn't read well for our site.
[14:13:27] <CoolHand> ah, didn't see n1 talk about it.. more or less what I was thinking.
[14:13:37] <janrinok> But I wouldn't lose sleep if you deleted it. In its current form it is not what I would put out.
[14:13:44] <cmn32480> needs a rewrite.
[14:29:41] * mrcoolbp checks his email
[14:33:11] <cmn32480> wow... he's here again! this is like 3 days in a row.
[14:34:19] <mrcoolbp> = P
[14:34:51] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: appreciate the heads up sir. Enjoy your time 'off'
[14:41:45] <janrinok> thx - I intend to mrcoolbp
[14:41:57] <mrcoolbp> = )
[14:46:39] <cmn32480> janrinok - you know we dock your editor pay for taking "vacation" right?
[14:47:07] <cmn32480> and you will need to turn in your SN credit card for the duration
[14:50:08] <cmn32480> wow.. I'm loading software from a CD! I can't remember the last time I did this
[14:52:34] <janrinok> cmn32480, dock my pay all you want - I bet I won't even miss it!
[14:54:09] <janrinok> I subscribe to LinuxFormat magazine - each month I get 4Gb of free software on a DVD. I try all the new releases and find lots of handy progs.
[14:55:17] <janrinok> Currently trying Debian 8.1 (incl systemd) and it works fine. My main machines are running Ubuntu Mate 14.04, which is supported until 2019
[14:57:24] <cmn32480> does that come on actual paper?
[14:58:05] <janrinok> there is a digital and paper version - I prefer the dead tree version because I don't use any portable devices.
[14:58:59] <janrinok> I have all the magazines going back to 2004
[14:59:23] <cmn32480> he likes dead trees AND a packrat.
[14:59:31] <cmn32480> brb... gotta reboot.
[15:06:40] <cmn32480> back
[15:06:45] <janrinok> wb
[15:07:29] <cmn32480> thanks
[15:07:34] <cmn32480> you on vacation yet?
[15:07:54] <janrinok> just got back from a practice run
[15:08:00] <cmn32480> ahhhhh ok
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[20:11:16] <takyon> man I either had a network interruption or soylent error that killed my complex submission after I tried to preview it
[20:11:20] <takyon> I was super pissed
[20:11:33] <takyon> It's back to 95% of what it was, you can see it in the queue
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