#editorial | Logs for 2015-07-07

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[00:16:54] <cmn32480> sigh back at you
[00:22:54] <paulej72> hello all
[00:47:59] <nick> was playing skyrim
[00:49:25] <nick> https://soylentnews.org
[00:49:52] <nick> thoughts on that submission, specifically the first sentence... to me it seems like it should be "but" instead of "because"
[00:49:55] <juggs> janrinok, I have no access to setup email accounts. Not sure in the context of the ping who needed one either. audioguy or mechanicjay are the guys to hit up for email although I'm sure paulej72 could do it in a pinch, he seems to be across everything :)
[00:57:05] <paulej72> i do have access to almost everthing, but i keep forgrtting the mail admin pass. not sure if that was added to the master pass list
[00:57:14] <cmn32480> juggs - it was coolhand
[00:58:25] <cmn32480> I just dropped mechj and audio a note
[00:58:29] <cmn32480> we shoudl have known that
[00:59:33] <juggs> Yeh, I'm not allowed access to anything important in case I break things :D And, honestly, I'm fine with that.
[01:00:08] <cmn32480> us neither
[01:00:39] <cmn32480> mmmmm dinner
[01:01:26] <cmn32480> fresh string beans... ceasar salad.... and a steak
[01:01:30] <cmn32480> but I ran out of beer
[01:02:00] <cmn32480> which takes what coudl have been a great meal... and makes it almost hobo food
[01:02:28] <juggs> It's the way it should be. Show a need to have access and access shall be granted, otherwise compartmentalisation is a good modus operandi.
[01:02:50] <cmn32480> when do I get access to the beer?
[01:03:23] <juggs> There is no SN beer fridge, sorry.... you're on your own there.
[01:04:29] <cmn32480> and if there was it'd be on janrinoks side of the pond... wouldn't it? to keep it from people like me.... and ethanol-fueled
[01:04:44] <cmn32480> that is your side of the pond too, sin't it juggs?
[01:06:31] <cmn32480> wow... only 58 ccomments to the Nexus Meta... I'm kinda surprised
[01:07:59] <paulej72> maybe the meta haters turned off display of meta
[01:08:29] <cmn32480> ow.....
[01:08:51] <cmn32480> that very small pop you just heard was my last brain cell giving out. Thanks paulej72
[01:09:11] <paulej72> lol
[01:09:13] <juggs> I have no idea where janrinok is based, although I get a northern europe vibe from him. I'm on a stupid little island just off the european mainland where the politicos still think they are in the 1950s and the British Empire was a great thing or something.
[01:09:30] <cmn32480> janrinok is N. France someplace
[01:09:43] <paulej72> france, nothern as he is anex britt
[01:10:10] <juggs> Ohh - I have mail from him, I could have dissected the headers to glean that.
[01:10:29] <cmn32480> why go through the effort... we just told you
[01:10:56] <cmn32480> so that makes 3 brits on staff
[01:11:02] <cmn32480> at so far as I am aware
[01:11:54] <juggs> We get everywhere :)
[01:12:29] <paulej72> well half the planet is ex britts
[01:13:30] <cmn32480> like bedbugs....
[01:15:49] <paulej72> more like genital lice
[01:17:21] <nick> cmn32480
[01:17:28] <nick> <+nick> https://soylentnews.org
[01:17:28] <nick> <+nick> thoughts on that submission, specifically the first sentence... to me it seems like it should be "but" instead of "because"
[01:17:55] <cmn32480> one sec
[01:17:57] <cmn32480> checking
[01:18:26] <nick> juggs, on the 1950's and empire, i read something the other day which made me shake my head, apprently 'foreigners coming over here and taking the handouts' has been a theme since the 1800's
[01:19:26] <paulej72> they do that in the us too
[01:20:02] <nick> well of course
[01:20:16] <nick> but if there were as many developing world migrants in the US and Western Europe
[01:20:27] <nick> as people claim anyway
[01:20:32] <nick> the rest of the world must be empty
[01:20:57] <paulej72> no yhey breed like rabbits
[01:21:06] <juggs> paulej72, I think India and China may disagree population wise with the whole Brits across the world summation. While we trump up our "Empire" - I seem to to recall the Portuguese, Spanish, French... pretty much anyone with the capability to build a suitable boat was off colonising various places in the same timeframe. The Brits just went a bit overboard and then branded it :D
[01:21:42] <paulej72> india is ex brittish
[01:21:53] <nick> and with the commonwealth still existing, the remnants of empire are still there for all to see
[01:22:10] <nick> the french do a much better job of keeping empire on the down low
[01:22:18] <nick> as all of the french empire that still exists is just france
[01:22:50] <paulej72> who would want to be in the french empire now?
[01:23:06] <cmn32480> nick: I don't know what topology is
[01:23:15] <nick> much less of the 'british overseas territory' and various other vague sleight of hand, having all the individual nations yet under one empire
[01:23:28] <nick> paulej72, french guiana and martinique to name a couple
[01:24:11] <nick> those two being just france, can make your flights cheaper, as their capital is still paris
[01:24:17] <nick> even if they're in south america/caribbean
[01:24:19] <paulej72> yes it should be "but"
[01:24:34] <nick> so taxes are cheaper on flights.
[01:24:53] <nick> paulej72, thanks for that
[01:28:35] <nick> cmn32480, in fairness at first i did think it meant topography
[01:28:51] <nick> but google is useful
[01:41:03] <juggs> micl, France still has influence in various countries in Africa, they just don't crow about it.
[01:41:32] <juggs> nick* - fingers slipped one to the right it seems
[01:52:22] <nick> quite true, they seem to do quite well keeping the influence under the table, but it's most likely more prominent in the french speaking press
[01:52:46] <nick> but it's not hard to see french corporate influence globally
[02:19:37] <juggs> We beat them to become the lingua franca though (irony intended) - that was well wrestled out of the hands of Spanish and French at various times. :D I think we had a little help from that internet thing the colonies created though :)
[02:21:43] <Bytram> The Lousiana Purchase worked out pretty well for the USA, and removed a large bit of their influence in the states
[02:22:02] * Bytram goes to look for a story he can quickly drop in the submission queue
[02:26:58] <Bytram> http://www.itworld.com
[02:27:34] <takyon> checking in
[02:27:43] <Bytram> http://www.itworld.com
[02:27:45] <takyon> oh yeah that def needs to hit the page
[02:27:50] <takyon> the goldman sachs one
[02:27:59] <takyon> I'll submit it myself if you need me to
[02:28:11] <Bytram> takyon: be my guest... I'll check out the 2 TB SSD
[02:28:24] <takyon> there are two versions of the 2 TB SSD
[02:28:28] <nick> 'Unlawful Use Of Secret Scientific Material'
[02:28:30] <Bytram> huh?
[02:28:42] <takyon> one is $200 cheaper than the PRO SSD
[02:29:30] <Bytram> oh, I get it now... reading the story, now
[02:29:36] <takyon> boy they are teasing us with V-NAND
[02:29:45] <takyon> 32 layers? Bet they could do 128
[02:30:31] <takyon> This story, "Samsung releases world's first 2TB consumer SSDs" was originally published by Computerworld.
[02:31:32] <Bytram> yep, just saw it.
[02:31:36] <Bytram> link is here: http://www.computerworld.com
[02:31:42] <takyon> neat
[02:31:50] <takyon> going to find our previous goldman sachs programmer story first
[02:31:54] <Bytram> I usually don't miss *too* much stuff!
[02:34:02] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[02:43:06] <takyon> ok
[02:43:19] <takyon> a little more than I wanted to quote but there was some good material in there
[02:44:12] <nick> im going to accept the gs one now
[02:47:34] <takyon> this is the next story: http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:47:43] <takyon> got to sit down and think about this one
[02:47:59] <Bytram> story in the queue
[02:48:29] * Bytram clicks takyon's last link
[02:50:55] <Bytram> takyon: this might have a major impact on crpto breaking, too:
[02:50:56] <Bytram> In a conference abstract, Di Ventra says the proposed “Universal Memcomputing Machine” is Turing-complete, but has a characteristic similar to (but easier to achieve) quantum computing: collective states.
[02:50:56] <Bytram> “[T]he presence of collective states in UMMs … allows them to solve NP-complete problems in polynomial time using polynomial resources,” that note claims.
[02:50:56] <Bytram> The Science abstract claims that “We show an experimental demonstration of an actual memcomputing architecture that solves the NP-complete version of the subset sum problem in only one step and is composed of a number of memprocessors that scales linearly with the size of the problem”.
[02:51:08] <nick> interesting sentiment to finish the ssd story on, Bytram
[02:51:22] <Bytram> yeah? thanks!
[02:51:57] <Bytram> so storage has gotten faster and denser.. big deal... they do that *all* the time. Thought I'd make it a bit more personal.
[02:52:17] <Bytram> wasnt sure,but istm that the drive could fit into a laptop, right?
[02:52:32] <Bytram> it's a standard 2.5-inch drive, if I understand correctly
[02:53:15] <nick> yeah
[02:54:34] <Bytram> won't be long before someone could be sitting in starbucks with their laptop and doing analysis on every person on earth.
[02:54:43] <nick> how many 'library of congress' per some measurement
[02:54:51] <Bytram> hold on a sec
[02:56:10] <Bytram> according to the census dept, the population of the US is about 316 Million
[02:56:24] <Bytram> 2 million / 316 == ?
[02:56:43] <Bytram> 6329
[02:56:50] <cmn32480> click start->run->calc
[02:57:09] <Bytram> or over 6KB per US citizen
[02:57:22] * Bytram prefers DC, but I also like to show my work.
[02:58:42] <Bytram> takyon: so that closing line in my story... pls add something like this: "Put another way, that is over 6 KB for <a href="http://www.census.gov/population/www/popclockus.html">every single person in the USA</a>."
[03:00:17] <nick> oh so my editing isn't good enough for you? :P
[03:07:31] <Bytram> nick: your editing is fine, but takyon was kinda tailing what I was doing for the past few minutes, hence my comment to him... feel free to have at it if he isnt on the story!
[03:08:00] <Bytram> btw, at 550 MB/sec, the entire drive can be read in about one minute
[03:09:11] <Bytram> so, take a laptop with an optional second drive bay, and you could have 4 TB of data storage; 12 KB for every person in the USA, and you could read it in just over 2 minutes. You cold do population-wide analyses while sitting at a laptop in Starbucks!
[03:09:21] <takyon> i didnt look at anything yet
[03:09:31] <Bytram> I 'see' =)
[03:09:33] <takyon> I'm always prepared to become judgmental though
[03:09:54] <nick> both the goldman sachs and ssd stories are ready for signing off
[03:10:08] <Bytram> nice!
[03:10:36] <takyon> about the drive
[03:10:41] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[03:10:41] <Bytram> yeah?
[03:10:52] * Bytram clicks link
[03:10:52] <takyon> I still haven't read your summary
[03:10:56] <Bytram> k
[03:11:13] <takyon> just pointing out that its not the densest in the 2.5" form factor. "consumer" is the big distinction here
[03:11:19] <Bytram> you'd think I'd remember posting that one, eh?
[03:11:27] <takyon> ahahaha
[03:11:34] <takyon> didn't even see your name there
[03:12:04] <Bytram> someone had a journal article recently about 128 GB sticks of memory coming out this summer (IIRC)
[03:12:13] <takyon> bullshit, we're up to 256
[03:12:57] <takyon> http://www.amazon.com
[03:12:57] <Bytram> yowsa!
[03:13:00] <takyon> err
[03:13:15] * Bytram clicks again
[03:13:34] <takyon> and then we have: http://www.amazon.com
[03:13:39] <Bytram> oh, that's a FLASH drive, not memory
[03:13:46] <Bytram> whoops
[03:14:13] <Bytram> again, flash memory. I'm talkng about *RAM*
[03:14:21] <takyon> oh my god
[03:14:57] <takyon> actually I'm really not sure what the RAM record is because I get confused with those special ones that enterprise use, that have been 32 GB+ for a while
[03:15:03] <nick> would be bigger news than a journal if it was 'this summer'
[03:15:09] <takyon> however I did hear that 16 GB DDR4 will become "mainstream" "soon"
[03:15:10] <nick> i'd think anyways
[03:15:35] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[03:15:56] <takyon> um
[03:16:06] <takyon> that's a 128 GB kit made of 16 GB sticks
[03:16:09] <takyon> so I was right
[03:16:51] <takyon> basically almost no "enthusiast" motherboards have more than 8 RAM slots. so 8x16 = 128 GB for your dank gaming
[03:17:44] <nick> $2k well spent, i guess?
[03:18:33] <Bytram> if I read the story correctly, one of these 'kits' will fit in a single RAM slot
[03:18:33] <takyon> If you're pulling six figures, why not blow $2k on some RAM?
[03:18:45] <Bytram> http://www.pcworld.com
[03:19:10] <takyon> yeah you ain't reading it right
[03:19:12] <Bytram> "Not to be outdone, Kingston this week also announced its own 128GB DDR4 kit, coming at even higher speeds. The company said its eight 16GB DIMMs are rated to hit DDR4/3000 speeds."
[03:19:24] <takyon> "eight 16GB DIMMs"
[03:19:39] <takyon> = eight RAM slots
[03:19:48] <nick> the memory 'kits' can be quite deceptive
[03:19:53] <nick> when buying them generally
[03:20:24] <Bytram> look at the picture in the story, it shows 4 of these kits in one motherboard, taking up 4 slots. each kit has 128 GB
[03:21:06] <Bytram> and then partway down the page, there's a pic of a single kit
[03:21:52] <Bytram> so, the motherboard in the top pic is sporting 512 MB of RAM
[03:21:53] <takyon> they are on different places on the motherboard
[03:22:17] <Bytram> top pic: http://core4.staticworld.net
[03:22:18] <takyon> 8 is a lot of sticks to have on a motherboard, and they might not be next to each other
[03:22:44] <takyon> yeah that's showing half the kit. you are looking at 64 GB of RAM
[03:22:53] <takyon> the other half of the RAM is not pictured
[03:23:15] <Bytram> and here is a pic of a single kit: http://images.techhive.com
[03:23:32] <takyon> not that's a single DIMM, not a single kit
[03:23:38] <takyon> free your mind bytram
[03:23:56] <takyon> I think I even see the other 4 RAM slots in the first pic
[03:24:10] <nick> "If you’re wondering what the fuss is about because you’ve seen 16GB DDR4 modules floating around for months, the Corsair and Kingston kits are unregistered RAM, which means there’s no error correction support in the modules. "
[03:24:18] <takyon> one is perpendicular to the left of the CPU, the other three are parallel to the first 4
[03:24:27] <Bytram> look at the pic of the single kit in the story; right below it,it states: "Corsair is now selling two 128GB kits of DDR4 RAM."
[03:24:42] <takyon> I'm pretty sure all consumer DRAM is unregistered, nick
[03:24:44] <Bytram> that says to me it is a pic of a single kit which contains 128 GB or RAM
[03:24:48] <Bytram> s/or/of/
[03:24:49] <nick> takyon
[03:24:56] <nick> im agreeing with you, my point was its talking about 16GB
[03:25:12] <nick> it's a 8x16GB kit, as listed on the cosair website
[03:25:15] <Bytram> you have a funny way of agreeing! =)
[03:25:16] <takyon> um that caption is just a general caption describing the headline
[03:25:25] <takyon> it's not a caption describing the contents of that photo
[03:25:32] <Bytram> I disagree.
[03:25:45] <nick> Dominator® Platinum Series 128GB (8 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz C14 Memory Kit (CMD128GX4M8A2400C14)
[03:25:49] <nick> Dominator® Platinum Series 128GB (8 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz C15 Memory Kit (CMD128GX4M8A2666C15)
[03:25:54] <nick> Dominator® Platinum Series 128GB (8 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 2800MHz C14 Memory Kit (CMD128GX4M8B2800C14)
[03:25:57] <takyon> a lot of news articles will have an image with a caption that does not directly desribe the image's contents, but instead the article
[03:26:14] <takyon> if you screencapped the image and the caption, you would have somewhat of a description of the whole article
[03:26:27] <Bytram> nick: thanks for that!
[03:26:41] <Bytram> nick: you got links for where you found that?
[03:26:51] <nick> http://www.corsair.com
[03:27:20] <takyon> the pcworld article is littered with the phrase "16GB DDR4 modules"
[03:27:49] <Bytram> yes, those are what they have combined together to make a single 128 GB kit which fits into one slot.
[03:28:09] * Bytram clicks nick's link
[03:28:14] <takyon> there's no such thing
[03:28:15] <nick> a kit is not a single dimm
[03:28:37] <takyon> a 128 GB DDR4 kit is 8 modules. it fits into 8 slots
[03:28:45] <nick> http://www.corsair.com
[03:28:57] <nick> thats how it really looks.
[03:29:02] <nick> in 8 slots
[03:29:06] <takyon> once 32 GB DDR4 sticks come out, a 128 GB MIGHT fit into 4 slots. But nobody is talking about it fitting it into ONE SLOT
[03:29:39] <Bytram> umm, yes, they actually *are* talking about fiting 128 GB of RAM into a single slot.
[03:29:54] <takyon> where
[03:29:58] <takyon> which article
[03:30:05] <takyon> link the article
[03:30:09] <Bytram> follow nick's links: http://www.corsair.com
[03:30:35] <nick> look at the second link Bytram
[03:30:42] <takyon> none of those is more than 16 GB in one slot
[03:31:01] <Bytram> look at the link I just posted; each one of those fits in a single slot
[03:31:05] <takyon> Dominator® Platinum Series 128GB (8 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 2800MHz C14 Memory Kit (CMD128GX4M8B2800C14)
[03:31:14] <takyon> (8 x 16GB)
[03:31:32] <takyon> 8 = the number of slots
[03:31:40] <takyon> 16 GB = the size of each memory module
[03:31:47] <takyon> 128GB = the size of the "kit"
[03:31:50] <Bytram> takyon: look at *this* page: http://www.corsair.com
[03:31:52] <nick> http://www.newegg.com
[03:31:55] <nick> Bytram:
[03:31:57] <nick> ^
[03:32:02] <Bytram> every one of those items fits in a *single* slot.
[03:32:04] <takyon> I am on the Corsair page
[03:32:12] <takyon> define "slot"
[03:32:17] <Bytram> note the varying capacity from 16GB total up to 128 GB total
[03:32:19] <nick> see the newegg item, 8 modules, 2 fan units
[03:32:45] <takyon> look at the parenthesis next to any mention of 128 GB
[03:33:16] <takyon> that part that says (8 x 16 GB) means 8 slots, with one 16 GB module in each slot. adding up to a total of 128 GB
[03:33:57] <takyon> kit != slot
[03:34:03] <nick> http://www.anandtech.com
[03:34:28] <takyon> the reason they sell kits it becasue they charge a little more and select "better" modules and sell them altogether to enthusiasts.
[03:35:22] <takyon> since motherboards are going to have a maximum of 8 slots, they sell kits with 8 modules. since 16 GB DDR4 modules are available, they can sell 128 GB "kits"
[03:36:07] <Bytram> hmmm, I'm reading the details on one of the kits
[03:36:15] <nick> i have bought many 8GB kits in recent years, they always have 2x4GB modules.
[03:36:45] <nick> you can get 8GB modules obviously, but thats not what the 'kits' usually are
[03:37:07] <takyon> kit means multiple modules of the same type and size, same company, sold in the same package.
[03:37:09] <Bytram> ok, I stand corrected.
[03:37:29] <Bytram> I see what my misunderstanding was.
[03:37:51] <nick> takyon, usually, but some retailers do call single modules 'kits' when in retail packaging...
[03:38:09] <takyon> 1 is a multiple of 1, so I stand by my statement nick
[03:38:15] <Bytram> the top pic in the compuerworld (or whatever it was) showed only 4 'boards' in one mobo
[03:38:17] <nick> touche
[03:38:18] <nick> ;)
[03:38:30] <takyon> yeah well that same pic actually shows the other 4 RAM slots
[03:38:36] <takyon> they are placed around the CPU
[03:38:40] <nick> the pic is misleading
[03:39:06] <Bytram> VERY misleading!
[03:39:08] <takyon> (empty RAM slots)
[03:39:19] <takyon> it was tough changing your mind just now
[03:39:20] <Bytram> I took the pic to show 4 of the 128 GB boards.
[03:39:40] <takyon> I find your use of the word "board" misleading
[03:39:52] <Bytram> why would they show 4 16 GB boards when they are talking about 128 GB? Sense no makes!
[03:40:22] <takyon> it's because they are lazy, and they decided to use that particular promotional image from corsair
[03:40:23] <Bytram> sorry, it's late and I've been up for nearly 18 hours now.
[03:40:26] <takyon> I like anandtech's choice better
[03:40:40] <takyon> well when you have to use that excuse, it's time for bed
[03:40:43] <Bytram> what word would you use to describe what fits into a single memory slot?
[03:40:52] <nick> module!
[03:40:53] <takyon> module
[03:41:08] <Bytram> in perfect harmony!
[03:41:37] <nick> bed does sound generally like a good idea
[03:41:54] <Bytram> so they had 4 16 GB modules (which totals 64 GB) in the pic for a story talking about 128 GB of RAM... can you see why I might have been mislead?
[03:41:57] <takyon> it beckons
[03:42:16] <takyon> yeah but we corrected you so many times, and all the text said 16 GB modules
[03:42:37] <takyon> but being awake for 18 hours definitely explains why you may have been mislead
[03:42:51] <Bytram> if you're writing about 128 GB of RAM, and you have a pic of a mobo with modules installed, make it a pic with 128 GB of RAM!!!!!!
[03:43:40] <nick> there are very low standards when it comes to making an article out of a press release
[03:43:53] <Bytram> for some reason, I took nick's comments as agreeing with me. I'm definitely ovetired.
[03:44:15] <takyon> lol
[03:44:16] <Bytram> I apologize for the frustration, but be sure that I learned something today that I won't soon forget!
[03:44:20] <nick> lol
[03:44:41] <takyon> I'll let you know when we have 128 GB per module. because that will be a good day
[03:44:45] <nick> i understand why you reached the conclusion you did, but sadly i couldn't agree
[03:44:50] <takyon> in 2025
[03:44:51] * Bytram ponders what joe sixpack struggles with when he wants to but a 'Pee sea'
[03:45:03] <takyon> Windows 10? What happened to 9?
[03:45:06] <Bytram> s/but/buy/
[03:45:30] <nick> but as always, a pleasure to discuss the topics of the day with you fine people
[03:45:35] <nick> take care guys
[03:45:43] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:45:44] * nick hat tip
[03:45:45] <takyon> later
[03:45:46] <Bytram> and same to you!
[03:45:50] * takyon tips fedora
[03:45:50] <Bytram> nighties!
[03:46:05] * Bytram offers a tip of a tam
[04:04:09] <cmn32480> Windows 9 was bypassed because of the similarity (and backwards compatibility problems) with software looking for Windows 9X
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[13:08:07] <cmn32480> good afternoon, janrinok !!
[13:10:17] <CoolHand> our hero is here!
[13:18:32] <nick> about time i was appreciated ;)
[13:21:11] <janrinok> CoolHand: cmn32480: nick: hi
[13:21:41] <janrinok> sry - just updated the kernel on my other machine
[13:22:05] <janrinok> hey - we've got submissions again!
[13:22:37] <cmn32480> is it a general now?
[13:22:49] <janrinok> Field Marshall
[13:22:58] <cmn32480> ja wohl!
[13:23:11] <janrinok> although what a field would do with such a thing is beyond me
[13:23:23] <janrinok> ah, no, that a Feld Marschal
[13:23:39] <cmn32480> oh my bad
[13:23:45] <janrinok> The brits have Field Marshals
[13:24:20] <janrinok> cmn32480: How's bachelor life treating you?
[13:25:04] <cmn32480> it has been quite relaxing
[13:25:13] <janrinok> when does it come to an end?
[13:25:29] <cmn32480> had a steak and salad last night.... fresh string beans
[13:25:37] <janrinok> sounds good
[13:25:44] <cmn32480> thursday afternoon, I believe.
[13:25:45] <janrinok> wine, beer, coffee?
[13:25:49] <cmn32480> I'm trying not to think about it
[13:25:52] <janrinok> lol
[13:26:21] <cmn32480> just water. I found out after I got home that i was out of beer
[13:26:53] <nick> out of beer?!
[13:26:58] <janrinok> you mean that my keg hasn't arrived yet? That's DHL for you...
[13:27:27] <janrinok> hey, nick, you are edging closer and closer to the 1k mark!
[13:27:36] <cmn32480> yeha.. I'm rather disappointted in myself for nto keeping better track
[13:28:19] <janrinok> probably find that they threw the keg into next door's yard!
[13:28:44] <nick> janrinok, better late than never i guess!
[13:28:45] <cmn32480> if it rolled down the hill I'm in trouble....
[13:29:11] <janrinok> nick: you've also got a job like almost everyone else on here!
[13:29:54] * nick is now reminiscing on the 5L heineken kegs for general consumption.
[13:30:05] <cmn32480> we all hove a job janrinok.. yours just doesn't produce a paycheck
[13:30:25] <janrinok> lol - it has, it is just a negative value
[13:30:30] <nick> and for some reason this morning, several clients decided to call me within 10 minutes of each other
[13:30:35] <nick> yay for having a phone on silent
[13:30:39] <janrinok> fame!
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[14:08:51] <janrinok> think that I'm back now using ZNC...?
[14:12:47] <paulej72> janrinok: no
[14:13:39] <paulej72> janrinok: i do not see any client connections to your ZNC setup
[14:27:05] <cmn32480> i keep fdropping in and out today... what a pain
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[14:29:39] <cmn32480> this is gonna piss em off all day. I'll try back later. if I don't talk to you, have a nice day!
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[14:42:35] <janrinok> paulej72: well, I can't see what else I have to do to connect irssi to znc - I can see other peoples comments and you, apparently, can see mine?
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[14:44:55] <janrinok_> back to using normal IRC and I've binned ZNC, at least temporarily
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[14:45:24] <janrinok_> but I think I'm still here
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[14:49:00] <janrinok> hi paulej72 - I've binned ZNC, at least temporarily.
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[15:02:21] <nick> 's all broken!
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[15:28:47] <paulej72> .voice
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[15:36:11] <janrinok_afk> hi mrcoolbp
[15:36:16] <mrcoolbp> yo
[15:36:45] <janrinok_afk> 2 days in a row - you'll be fired at this rate!
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[15:37:19] <mrcoolbp> hope not, my kids depend on this paycheck!
[15:37:26] <mrcoolbp> = P
[15:37:29] <janrinok> good to see/hear you anyway
[15:37:45] <mrcoolbp> it's good to be seen/heard
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[16:56:54] <nick> hey CoolHand, can you push the 'human aging' story a little later please?
[17:09:57] <CoolHand> i just did
[17:10:13] <CoolHand> before I even read this (saw u sandwich the 'ask soylent' in there...)
[17:10:45] <nick> i was about to head out, then saw queue was low, so started on the ask soylent, and then got distracted by something else
[17:10:52] <nick> by the time i got my shit together you'd done those other stories
[17:11:26] <CoolHand> I gotcha... no prob..
[17:11:27] <CoolHand> :)
[17:12:30] <nick> now i really do need to leave
[17:12:36] <CoolHand> have a good one man
[17:12:43] <nick> thanks for working around me ;)
[17:12:44] <nick> take care
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[17:44:25] <janrinok> .op
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[18:15:47] <janrinok> hi Azrael long time no see
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[19:53:02] <paulej72> any eds around
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[21:16:35] <cmn32480> you still looking for an ed paulej72?
[21:33:39] <cmn32480> I almost did it today.
[21:33:52] <cmn32480> I almost walked out.
[21:34:09] <cmn32480> apparently I"m closer to the breaking point than I thought
[22:09:23] <paulej72> I need some eds to test the comments on the sub list page
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[22:20:05] <cmn32480> just put up 3, seems to work
[22:20:10] <cmn32480> I had some issues the ohter night