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[00:18:15] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[00:18:21] <systemd> ^ 03Max User
[00:38:37] <Bytram> takyon: I noticed you were no longer editing the story: "Apple Maps Vehicles Capturing Street Images of Ireland, the UK, and the United States "
[00:38:46] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[00:38:53] <systemd> ^ 03Error ( https://soylentnews.org )
[00:39:05] <Bytram> so I went in and changed the nexus from 'breaking news' to just 'The main page'
[01:18:41] * Bytram just realized that he forgot to include the 'original submission' link in the 14 stories he pushed out this evening. :/
[01:18:48] * Bytram goes off to rectify the situation
[01:35:01] <Bytram> 2
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[13:20:52] <cmn32480|sleepin> aye carumba... WTF is the sub from MDC??? I'm open to suggestions as to what to do with it.
[13:21:13] <Bytram> cmn32480|sleepin: hola!
[13:21:28] <Bytram> CoolHand: bon jour!
[13:21:49] <Bytram> I just noticed we got attacked by the <ol> bug that trashes the list contents
[13:21:53] <Bytram> I have fixed it,
[13:22:04] <Bytram> but it may take a few minutes for it to make it to the main page
[13:22:29] <Bytram> here's a link to the story: https://soylentnews.org
[13:22:31] <systemd> ^ 03SN article:  Science Instruments Selected for NASA's Europa Mission 04(0 comments)
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[13:22:38] <cmn32480> Hiya Bytram!
[13:22:42] <Bytram> cmn32480: g'morning!
[13:22:43] <cmn32480> sleep good?
[13:22:51] <Bytram> do you hve scrollback?
[13:22:57] <Bytram> nod nod <grin>
[13:23:12] <Bytram> I just fixed the most-recently displayed story
[13:23:20] <cmn32480> no sir. Juggs was gonna get me set up, and we never got that far
[13:23:24] <Bytram> give the system a few minutes to move it to the main page
[13:23:34] <Bytram> there's a known bug atm
[13:23:43] <Bytram> if you have an <ol> (ordered list) tag
[13:23:59] <Bytram> in a story, AND YOU PREVIEW IT, it inserts all kinds of wierd crap around it
[13:24:03] <cmn32480> ahh I see
[13:24:08] <Bytram> ahhh, you see it?
[13:24:13] <cmn32480> definetly looks better wiht the fix
[13:24:25] * Bytram refreshes main page
[13:24:30] <Bytram> and waits...
[13:24:41] <cmn32480> shoudl it have bullets or numbers?
[13:24:52] <Bytram> I'm assuming numbers
[13:25:03] <cmn32480> main page has numbers... story page still ahs bullets
[13:25:34] <Bytram> looking at the main page, I saw numbers there, so that is what I corrected it to be
[13:25:52] <Bytram> 'tis useful in the comments to refer to the item # instead of the frigging long item name
[13:25:55] <cmn32480> click inot the story, adn we get bullet points
[13:26:05] <cmn32480> agreed
[13:26:09] * Bytram clicks
[13:26:23] <cmn32480> I'll give it a few, to let the cache refresh
[13:26:37] <Bytram> ugh, looks like lamx saw it too and tried to fix it
[13:26:56] <Bytram> or may be trying to fix it again, unknowningly
[13:26:57] <cmn32480> at the same time as you a[pparently
[13:27:41] <Bytram> nah, he came in after me.
[13:28:03] <Bytram> I'm not sure how this is gonna look, but here goes:
[13:28:04] <Bytram> Story Info
[13:28:04] <Bytram> Signoffs (3/6)
[13:28:04] <Bytram> martyb 06-12 22:14:01 saved
[13:28:04] <Bytram> martyb 06-13 01:20:41 updated
[13:28:04] <Bytram> janrinok 06-13 06:48:42 updated
[13:28:05] <Bytram> martyb 06-13 13:19:12 updated
[13:28:07] <Bytram> LaminatorX 06-13 13:21:27 updated
[13:28:09] <Bytram> LaminatorX 06-13 13:23:38 updated
[13:28:30] <cmn32480> 2 min later... that is pretty much same time
[13:28:54] <Bytram> since the <LI> tags were not there when I put up the story, I'm guessing that janrinock added them in, and previewed, and kerplow
[13:29:20] <Bytram> then I noticed, jumped in and fixed it, and while the system was getting around to refreshing the main page, lamx jumped in to fix it
[13:29:37] <Bytram> I don't see lamx in any of the channels I'm in, so we'll have to wait and see
[13:29:40] <cmn32480> I woudl say your order of event sounds plausible
[13:29:55] <cmn32480> he's a pretty rare bird on IRC
[13:30:04] * Bytram wishes we had a command *we* could issue that says: UPDATE THE MAIN PAGE *NOW*!!!!
[13:30:36] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:30:37] <cmn32480> maybe a guy w/ your privilege level (God like)
[13:31:11] <cmn32480> us simple editors would find a way to crash it
[13:31:14] <Bytram> thankfully, I extracted the html after I fixed it up, saved to a local file on my system, and verified it looked right, before I hit update...
[13:31:35] <Bytram> if need be, I can copy/paste it back in if the problem reoccurs
[13:32:01] * Bytram hits Ctrl+F5 on the main page
[13:32:22] <Bytram> oh, and now it's a bulleted list on the main page.
[13:32:24] <Bytram> whatevah!
[13:33:27] <Bytram> no biggee, the <li> remain the same, it's just the difference between a <OL> or a <UL> bracketing the list items.
[13:33:43] <Bytram> oooooh! I just had an idea!
[13:34:03] <cmn32480> don't keep me in suspense/
[13:34:10] <Bytram> in the story info list which shows the Signoffs...
[13:34:33] <cmn32480> yeah?
[13:34:39] <Bytram> what if there were a link to a copy of the story as it existed after that editor saved it
[13:34:56] <cmn32480> we had talked about that
[13:35:14] <cmn32480> it requires that the changes be journaled
[13:35:23] <Bytram> maybe change each of the signoff names to be <a href="saved_copy_n">martyb</a>, instead.
[13:35:25] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:35:49] <Bytram> but how to get access to them...
[13:35:53] <cmn32480> the decision was that the dev resources to implement woud be better spent elsewhare (killing rehash bugs)
[13:36:20] <cmn32480> you may not have been here when we talked about it
[13:36:22] <Bytram> actually, don't need to *journal* the changes, just a full save would suffice.
[13:36:33] <cmn32480> correct.
[13:36:34] <Bytram> doesn't ring a bell, so prolly not
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[13:37:07] <cmn32480> it woudl require keeping a copy of the story in the DB for each update that was done.
[13:37:12] <Bytram> ideally, it would be just the diffs being saved, and run them through to get up to that point, but that is an order of magnitude more difficult
[13:37:16] <cmn32480> janrinok vetoed the idea
[13:37:19] <Bytram> exactly!
[13:37:31] <janrinok> I didn't!
[13:37:33] <Bytram> janrinok: hola!
[13:37:34] <cmn32480> you did
[13:37:45] <Bytram> janrinok: well, I sure didn't!
[13:37:54] <janrinok> I supported it for editors - but not community wide
[13:38:06] <cmn32480> the dev's started twitching when it was brought up in the midst of the rehash changes
[13:38:17] <janrinok> Bytram: well done on your epic story posting effort!
[13:38:39] <cmn32480> I agree... you are quite the animal Bytram
[13:38:43] <Bytram> oh, sry, I misunderstood the context (/me can't read and type at the same time)
[13:39:00] <Bytram> janrinok: did you add <li> to the Science Instruments story?
[13:39:09] <Bytram> I don't recall them being in there when I saved it.
[13:39:10] <janrinok> nope
[13:39:24] <Bytram> hrmmm
[13:39:35] <janrinok> I had a discussion with n1 on Thursday - we have stopped using lists until the bug is fixed
[13:40:10] <janrinok> I was surprised to see them in there when I 2nd Ed'ed the story
[13:40:42] <Bytram> well, in my story pushing marathon, I took pains to make sure that story was okay when I saved it (it came in with <UL>)
[13:40:50] <Bytram> but I musta forgot about that when I realized, later,
[13:41:04] <janrinok> if anyone loads it, and then updates/saves the bug will appear
[13:41:06] <Bytram> that I forgot to include the 'Original Submission' links in all those stories
[13:41:17] <Bytram> and so I went back in and added that to all of those stories
[13:41:24] <Bytram> and caused the bug to manifest
[13:41:31] <Bytram> my bad.
[13:41:48] <Bytram> janrinok: yes, I'm aware, but I forgot when I went in to add all the Original Sub links
[13:41:50] <Bytram> :(
[13:41:54] <janrinok> I didn't notice, although I don't think you missed it off every story did you?
[13:42:06] <Bytram> At first, I did.
[13:42:13] <janrinok> ah, OK
[13:42:18] <Bytram> then I went back in to those 14 or so stories and added it in manually
[13:42:26] <cmn32480> bingo! found where Phoenix666 quoted from :-)
[13:42:34] <Bytram> while trying to carry on a couple conversations in IRC at the same time
[13:42:42] * Bytram pleads distracted typing
[13:42:44] <janrinok> I've been using * and &nbsp rather than lists
[13:42:57] <janrinok> cmn32480: ?
[13:43:06] <cmn32480> 2nding some of Bytram's work
[13:43:18] <janrinok> ah more enlightenment
[13:43:19] * Bytram still does not follow
[13:43:24] <cmn32480> the diamond nanoparticle story has no links
[13:43:32] <cmn32480> yet is <blockquote>
[13:43:54] <cmn32480> with no indicator as to where it came from
[13:43:58] <janrinok> I haven't looked at Sunday's stories yet!
[13:44:07] <cmn32480> I have found the link, and will add it in.
[13:44:21] <Bytram> cmn32480: yeah, that submitter had a couple/few stories with NO links!
[13:44:23] <cmn32480> aww... did I pee in your Cheerios?
[13:44:37] <Bytram> I had to search for salient phrases trying to backtrack and find the source
[13:45:01] <Bytram> ISTR adding some equivocation in at least one of those stories as to the source
[13:45:06] <janrinok> I moved one of your stories from Sunday to today because we had a 4 hour gap mid-afternoon european time
[13:45:18] <Bytram> foo writes in with a story that seems to come from bar
[13:45:42] <Bytram> janrinok: wouldn't surprise me, I was starting to get a bit distracted towards the end
[13:45:56] <Bytram> at one point, somehow had the same story appearing twice in the story queue!
[13:45:58] <janrinok> well, it was a mammoth effort
[13:46:04] <Bytram> thanks
[13:46:11] <janrinok> DUPE!
[13:46:18] <Bytram> no guarantees that all of the links in the stories work...
[13:46:24] <janrinok> just thought I would say that in case you miss it
[13:46:29] <Bytram> including the 'Original Submission' link :/
[13:46:34] <Bytram> much appreciated!
[13:47:06] <Bytram> Just employing the janrinok techique of drawing down the submission queue to encourage weekend submissions and help us make it through the w/e and into monday
[13:47:22] <janrinok> well, it does seem to help
[13:47:44] <Bytram> I've noticed! that's why I've been using that technique, too!
[13:47:47] <cmn32480> quite the effort Bytram. I don't ahve the patience to do that many. I get to about 6 and get vapor lock
[13:48:12] <janrinok> In the bad old days, blah blah blah etc
[13:48:17] <Bytram> just got into the zone, I guess. Compared to the other stuff that I'd been doing that day, was a cake walk
[13:48:31] <cmn32480> OOOO a penis transplant story!
[13:48:56] <janrinok> apart from missing out the links, getting the timings wrong, and publishing stories without any links altogether? :)
[13:49:17] <Bytram> while dreaming of editor improvements in the editor interface, /me would *love* to see a button that would check all the links and make sure that there were no 404's, etc.
[13:49:27] <Bytram> sounds like a perfect day!
[13:49:29] <Bytram> =)
[13:49:36] <Bytram> which story was missing links?
[13:49:47] <janrinok> good idea, and including takyons script built in to the editor would be useful too
[13:49:52] <Bytram> ISTR it came from $(foo)666
[13:49:58] <cmn32480> this is why we 2nd.
[13:49:59] * Bytram hasn't used that, yet.
[13:50:07] <Bytram> I 2nd that!
[13:50:23] <cmn32480> I haven't used it either, but I have heard some very good thigns
[13:50:27] <Bytram> same here
[13:50:40] <Bytram> so, back to the question: which story has no links?
[13:50:56] * Bytram wishes he could 'grep' the stories!
[13:51:07] <janrinok> well, parts of it will be included in updates (orig sub link etc). But it makes blockquotes, paras and lists very easy.
[13:51:41] <janrinok> ...and includes all the closing tags automatically, removes wasted space and gives a consistent output
[13:51:58] <Bytram> with the way the db is currently set up, getting *read* access also conveys *write* access, so they have not deemed to give me that
[13:51:59] <Bytram> yet.
[13:52:02] <cmn32480> none now that I have found.
[13:52:02] <Bytram> =)
[13:52:57] <janrinok> I thought cmn32480 said that the diamond nanoparticles story had not source link?
[13:53:04] <janrinok> had no*
[13:53:08] <Bytram> select story_id from stories where story_id > 6600 and stories.story_text NOT LIKE '%<a href%'
[13:53:10] <cmn32480> it didn't... but I fixed it
[13:53:13] <cmn32480> no worries
[13:53:15] <Bytram> cmn32480++
[13:53:15] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 6
[13:53:25] <janrinok> teamwork!
[13:53:37] <Bytram> ahh, yeah, now I do remember you mentioned that earlier!
[13:53:37] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:53:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 8
[13:53:50] <cmn32480> good idea.... I"m gonna get another cup
[13:54:07] <janrinok> just for info Bytram , what cpu, OS and memory have you got in your computer?
[13:54:11] <Bytram> cup? LOL! I've got a 20 oz mug over here!
[13:55:04] <cmn32480> I believe that this mug is 16oz
[13:55:49] <cmn32480> Cyrix 486, windows 95 Rev c (for USB support), and 8meg
[13:56:15] <cmn32480> bytram is frugal Janrinok^
[13:56:53] <janrinok> yeah, so I gather
[13:57:51] <cmn32480> WTH???
[13:57:53] <cmn32480> Signoffs (3/4)
[13:57:53] <cmn32480> cmn32480 06-13 13:57:11 updated
[13:57:53] <cmn32480> martyb 06-12 22:37:29 saved
[13:57:53] <cmn32480> martyb 06-13 01:25:49 updated
[13:57:53] <cmn32480> janrinok 06-13 06:59:33 updated
[13:58:05] <cmn32480> the signoffs are out of order
[13:58:57] <Bytram> have been for a while
[13:59:07] <janrinok> yes, I've noticed that since rehash, but haven't thought it worth mentioning
[13:59:24] <Bytram> from what I've seen so far, the first two entries have been out of order
[13:59:35] <cmn32480> is this just something that I just totally missed? that the most recent is on thop the it goes from oldest to youngest?
[13:59:57] <Bytram> cmn32480: I haven't gathered enough data to tell for sure
[14:00:09] <cmn32480> ok
[14:00:22] <Bytram> I also noticed that if I go in to edit an existing story in the queue, do an update, the signoffs list shows 'No signoffs'
[14:00:28] <cmn32480> I fixed one letter in a link in that story and happened to notice it
[14:00:30] <janrinok> I'm not sure it is always that order - but it might be?
[14:00:53] <janrinok> Bytram: seen that one too
[14:01:20] <cmn32480> I've seen that sometimes as well, but I can't say if it is alwys or not
[14:02:03] <janrinok> there have been bigger and more critical bugs to squash recently
[14:02:04] <cmn32480> i guess if Bytram is gong to drag me kicking and screaming into QA I have to be more observant
[14:03:01] <Bytram> LOL!
[14:03:08] <cmn32480> and the Prize for Under Statement of the Year goes to: janrinok!
[14:03:55] * cmn32480 wonders if I can get coffee by IV
[14:04:01] <janrinok> I'm saving lots of little ones for when Bytram starts feeling over-confident again :)
[14:04:19] <cmn32480> oooooo that's dirty janrinok
[14:04:22] * Bytram sidles over to a corner and covers his eyes and ears
[14:04:52] * cmn32480 thinks Bytram is a very smart man.
[14:04:54] <janrinok> he can sidle all he wants, he can't see my list hehehe
[14:05:20] <cmn32480> interesting... you typed that and there was a huge thunderclap
[14:05:21] <Bytram> lol
[14:05:33] <Bytram> Now, THIS is how to get your coffee:
[14:05:33] <Bytram> http://www.gocomics.com
[14:05:33] <systemd> ^✓ 03Adam@Home Comic Strip, January 31, 2006 on GoComics.com
[14:06:00] <cmn32480> AMEN!
[14:06:02] <janrinok> I have friends in high places, but not usually that high
[14:06:15] <cmn32480> But I've been good. I no longer measure my coffee intake in pots per day
[14:06:31] <Bytram> now it is in pots per hour?!!!!
[14:06:39] <cmn32480> dear god no
[14:06:45] <cmn32480> I'd be peeing all the time
[14:07:02] <Bytram> 'tis one way to get your exercise!
[14:07:06] <cmn32480> i try to limit my slef to a max of 3 cups
[14:07:55] <janrinok> I hope your slef appreciates it
[14:07:57] <cmn32480> i have found that in my old age I start getting jittery after cup 4
[14:08:27] <cmn32480> my slef DOES appreciate it.
[14:14:00] <Bytram> cmn32480: that diamond nanoparticle story... I remember seeking out links for it! I musta somehow failed to hit update or somethin' -- glad you caught it!
[14:14:12] <cmn32480> no worries
[14:14:22] <janrinok> it np Bytram - we will carry you like always :)
[14:14:26] <cmn32480> I've been a slacker lately, so at leat I am doing SOMETHIGN good
[14:15:08] <janrinok> cmn32480: you've not been home much - I'd hardly call that slacking!
[14:16:41] <cmn32480> I head out again on Wednesday afternoon. Return Saturday, then head out again on Sunday to return on Thursday
[14:17:28] <cmn32480> but on the upside, if things keep up, I'm on pace get a companion pass on Southwest this year
[14:17:46] <Bytram> that would be a nice plus
[14:17:51] <janrinok> does that mean you get a companion of your choice?
[14:18:05] <Bytram> does that mean someone can put you in their carryon?
[14:18:10] <cmn32480> janrinok - I WISH!
[14:18:14] * janrinok might start flying Southwest!
[14:18:36] <cmn32480> bytram - I don't fit in the overhead bins]
[14:18:46] <janrinok> ah, you will with a bit of effort
[14:18:49] <cmn32480> I'd ahve to go as luggage
[14:18:51] <Bytram> or is it you are a companion of someone *else*'s choice?
[14:19:06] <janrinok> ooh - naughty
[14:19:11] * Bytram suspects that he prolly would fit
[14:19:23] <cmn32480> it means that for any ticket I buy, I get a second ticket on the same flights for free
[14:19:26] * janrinok agrees, especially if we both push
[14:19:44] <Bytram> that's one way to try and jump-start a plane
[14:21:00] <janrinok> Changing subject - I feel as if we have had better quality subs over the last 3 or 4 days.
[14:24:04] <cmn32480> i woudl agree.
[14:24:22] <cmn32480> but many coem from the same few people
[14:26:10] <janrinok> true - but I'm less concerned about that than the actual quality. _If_ I get my storybot working well enough, if could easily provide 40+ stories per day. They would all be from the same source and would require a little extra editing than other subs, but still be quite useable. I wouldn't want to flood the sub queue though
[14:26:25] <janrinok> that would be counter-productive and deter others
[14:28:21] <cmn32480> similar to the RSS feed? or are you writing an automated submission bot?
[14:29:12] <janrinok> I'm taking the rss feed and trying to automatically extract the story text, but discard the adverts and other dross. It works but only with 70-80% effectiveness.
[14:29:45] <janrinok> Now, it can't tell a good story from a bad one - so editors will probably discard 50% or more of the stories.
[14:29:50] <cmn32480> you will need to pair down the RSS feed
[14:30:02] <cmn32480> ahh.. that si the kicker
[14:30:09] <janrinok> And it gives you all the text, so you would have to edit out the bits that we need for the summary.
[14:30:20] <janrinok> But, the queue would never run dry
[14:30:26] <cmn32480> interesting.
[14:30:55] <janrinok> that is what I am doing when not typing on here. It is on my adjacent machine
[14:31:34] cmn32480 is now known as mechanicsilentbob
[14:31:35] <janrinok> I'm having to write filters for each feed that makes up the rss-bot output. That improves the overall effectiveness
[14:32:02] mechanicsilentbob is now known as cmn32480
[14:32:33] <cmn32480> interesting
[14:32:57] <janrinok> my idea is that it watches the sub list. If it falls below a certain level, it will submit, say, 5 stories automatically
[14:33:11] <Bytram> janrinok: are you retaining the links in the extracted story text?
[14:33:12] <cmn32480> that is cool
[14:33:19] <Bytram> ^^^
[14:33:19] <janrinok> perhaps 3 of those we will bin immediately
[14:34:08] <janrinok> I can save links, but haven't got to that stage yet. It is easy to do once the html page has been parsed. Links that appear in div<interesting story> can be kept.
[14:34:24] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:35:41] <janrinok> but I'm thinking that we might want a hidden sub list, because if it never gets low, people will stop submitting. So we might need a hidden list that contains autogenerated stories that will require more effort on our part, but will prevent us from running dry
[14:35:45] <Bytram> my dream was to have something that would load one of the daily links at: http://logs.sylnt.us
[14:35:46] <systemd> ^ 03#rss-bot | Logs
[14:35:55] <Bytram> e.g.: http://logs.sylnt.us
[14:35:55] <systemd> ^ 03#rss-bot | Logs for 2015-06-13
[14:36:24] <Bytram> and provide a sub-pane where, when I click on a story link from the queue, it would output the site text to the sub pane
[14:36:35] <janrinok> it currently parses the output of rss-bot in realtime, or can go back sequentially though the log generating stories
[14:36:47] <Bytram> Ideally, I could put a filter on the rss feeds list to include/exclude patterns
[14:36:53] <Bytram> neat!
[14:37:13] <janrinok> I'd rather have a story that was several days old than no story at all
[14:37:57] <janrinok> I've also thought about word filters so that it can make an intelligent guess as to the nexus for such things as gaming, or OS'es
[14:38:44] <janrinok> again, fairly easy to do but not 100% effective. It still requires an editor to make the final decisions
[14:39:04] <cmn32480> human interaction? bin the whole project!
[14:39:57] <janrinok> lol - yeah, I'll just delete my local git repo!
[14:40:14] <Bytram> janrinok: there was to be enough of a benefit to a visit, often enough, for the community to keep coming back... *quality* stories are key IMHO
[14:40:54] <janrinok> and, of course, it can't detect sarcasm, humour or such things. Might be the odd story that shouldn't have been there in the first place, but i can blame the rss feed for that :)
[14:41:18] <janrinok> Bytram: that is what I hope to achieve
[14:41:34] <Bytram> nice!
[14:41:38] <Bytram> janrinok++
[14:41:38] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 31
[14:42:08] <janrinok> Having 100 stories taken from rss-bot should give us the choice of 10-20 stories of good quality
[14:42:18] <cmn32480> well gents I gotta go cut the grass
[14:42:24] <cmn32480> my wife is cracking the whip
[14:42:25] * Bytram wonders if google (or anyone else) open-sourced their code for extracting salient info from search results or news stories?
[14:42:43] <janrinok> cmn32480: you go get your chores done - and give my best to your wife!
[14:42:50] <Bytram> janrinok: and then it comes to a matter of trying to filter out which one to take...
[14:42:59] <cmn32480> I will sir. I assume that all your chores are already complete?
[14:43:02] <Bytram> one day we had somethinglike 27 stories in the queue, and I was hard-pressed
[14:43:15] <janrinok> yep, did mine this morning - its late afternoon here
[14:43:17] <Bytram> to tell if there were any stories that needed to be merged!
[14:43:45] <Bytram> speaking of chores, time for me to get started on my day.
[14:44:00] <Bytram> nice chattin with ya all!
[14:44:08] <janrinok> well, my first aim is to get the simple extractor working, and then start to tune it to become more useful. I don't suppose v0.1 will be that good
[14:44:26] <janrinok> laters Bytram, and thanks again for your efforts
[14:44:27] <cmn32480> take it easy fellas. see you tomorrow morning janrinok
[14:44:36] <janrinok> cheers cmn32480
[14:44:48] <Bytram> cmn32480: take it easy, and if you can take it easy... take another!
[14:44:53] cmn32480 is now known as cmn32480|chores
[14:44:57] <cmn32480|chores> you too Bytram
[14:45:04] <cmn32480|chores> see you later!
[14:45:38] <Bytram> I'll likely check back in some time later today; doubt I'll be around much on sunday.
[14:45:41] <Bytram> have a great w/e everybody
[14:45:50] <janrinok> you take it easy, you've done all the work
[14:46:16] <Bytram> cmn32480|chores: you still here?
[14:48:41] <Bytram> cmn32480|chores: I just saw your comment on one of the stories in the queue; I take it that the pendulum may have swung back... or that it was misdirected.
[14:48:42] <Bytram> janrinok: ^^^
[14:48:54] <Bytram> janrinok: My vote is to just delete it from the queue
[14:48:59] <janrinok> which one?
[14:49:11] <Bytram> 4th from the top
[14:49:19] <Bytram> one must not...
[14:49:54] <janrinok> wtf is MDC writing about??
[14:50:11] <Bytram> 'xactly
[14:50:19] <janrinok> delete
[14:50:27] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:50:42] <Bytram> click
[14:50:44] <Bytram> click
[14:50:48] <Bytram> done.
[14:50:49] <janrinok> thx
[14:50:52] <Bytram> np
[14:51:02] <janrinok> now go and enjoy your weekend
[14:51:19] <Bytram> seems the 'swings' take about 4-6 weeks for him; from what I can see
[14:52:27] <Bytram> ok, I gtg... ciao for now!
[14:58:24] <cmn32480|chores> thanks guys. I dond't wanna do it without somebody else looking at it.
[14:58:44] <janrinok> you finished cutting the grass already?
[14:59:05] <cmn32480|chores> no.. came back into the office to get my sunglasses out of my bag
[14:59:05] <janrinok> the man needs to up his meds
[14:59:16] <janrinok> that's MDC, not youi
[14:59:25] <cmn32480|chores> well me too probably
[14:59:32] <janrinok> all off us!
[14:59:38] <janrinok> of*
[14:59:38] <cmn32480|chores> likely
[14:59:52] <cmn32480|chores> I read that and all I could think was WTF?????????????
[15:00:10] <janrinok> ditto - but he has these problems from time to time
[15:00:50] <cmn32480|chores> yes. I hope the writing of the stuff is therapeutic for him, but the lack of pubnlishing is not a traumatic incident
[15:01:22] <janrinok> oh, he can sub as many as he wants. It is not a big effort on our part to delete them :)
[15:02:00] <cmn32480|chores> absolutely. I just hope that the deletion isn't traumatic for him. he seems liek a ni e guy in general
[15:02:13] <janrinok> he'll be fine. now - get back to your chores
[15:02:20] <cmn32480|chores> some people aren't as well adjusted as we are
[15:02:30] <janrinok> lol
[15:02:31] <cmn32480|chores> not that I am saying that we shoudln't delete them. we should
[15:02:55] <janrinok> if we are the yardstick for being well-adjusted, there is little hope for mankind!
[15:03:21] <cmn32480|chores> i would vehemently disagree with that
[15:04:02] <janrinok> we could all be mass-murderers, no one can tell
[15:04:08] <cmn32480|chores> if more people were like us - hardworking, caring, law abiding citizens....
[15:04:17] <cmn32480|chores> and standing next to each other in a bar we'd never know it
[15:04:18] <janrinok> rofl
[15:04:34] <janrinok> get back in the garden before I phone your wife!
[15:04:46] <cmn32480|chores> go for it. need her number?
[15:05:06] * janrinok yeah, probably
[15:05:11] <cmn32480|chores> I hope you have international on your phone!
[15:05:26] <cmn32480|chores> ok back to the lawn care before it rains....
[15:05:30] <janrinok> this is the age of the internet - phone calls to the US are local rate to me
[15:05:42] <cmn32480|chores> cool
[15:06:03] <cmn32480|chores> if you are in her contact list, she'll pick up. esle you got ot voicemail
[15:06:20] <cmn32480|chores> ok I'm out..
[15:06:24] <janrinok> ! GET BACK TO WORK
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